Yeah ...a team of 12 year old I guess ! A propper designer for locks shouldn`t make such a mistake . Also in my mind they even didn`t wanted to make a change at all . It feels like as If they would say : Shut up that`s what you get for your hard earned money ! I feel lucky that I never had a lock like that !
Even if they had good designers and engineers - the "value engineering" that would then happen would ruin it and it's what probably has happened to all their locks. It's a common practice now. Take a nice sturdy design and try to make it cheaper to make by cutting corners, using cheaper materials, removing features etc.
Zmodem I really have to wonder how Brinks got this past the, idk, board or qa or whatever checks are in place. Did they really think nobody would check just because they said it didn’t work?
He picked up the first lock about 20 seconds in, picked it, talked about there being new locks for about 30-35 seconds, picked up the second lock at about the minute mark, and had the third one finished by a minute and 20 seconds. That comes to about 30 seconds for the three locks with explaining as he went. If he was trying to be fast I think it would have been around 5 seconds for all three.
The new style lock shackle is on the other way around though! This means you have to shim the code wheel on the right-hand side rather than the left as per the older style. Such fiendish trickery! Surely LPL won't see past this cunning lock development! :D
What if they didn't even switch the mechanism to the other side? What if they just put the logo on the back side of the lock so it looks like they moved it?
chasemc69 Thats exactly what they did - the weakness is at the hinged side of the shackle. Thats what marketing call re-engineering - but very low cost.
They are great for attaching to bridges as a permenat symobol of your transient affection for someone, (because with this model its easy for the council to remove the locks and sell them on ebay to pay people to remove pointless and dangerous locks.)
I have no interest in picking locks myself, but the quality of your videos is absolutely pristine. Right to the point, no gimmicks, no time fillers. Pure content.
Actually they are different companies. It appears the locks are a branding deal. They are from a company called Hampton (Hampton Products International Corporation)
I've always liked lpl's videos,hes not one of those types of youtubers that makes you sit through like 15 mins of bs just to get to the point,his videos are short and sweet and i think that if more youtubers were like him,this platform would be much better
Anytime a lockmaker goes to sleep they immediately hear: "This is the Lockpicking Lawyer..." They wake up, drenched in a cold sweat, the voice doesn't stop: "2 is binding, good click out of 3, 4 is binding..." They can't take it anymore, they scream but cannot hear their own voice: "And the lock is open"
at least dreams of his videos are short ones for many of these companies. I mean does he have enough content from master lock to make a decent nights sleep?
I don't know a lick of Portuguese (other than the word for "seal", thanks to the movie _Splash,_ oddly enough), but I'm curious whether you're talking about Portugal or Brazil. Is it as different as the French between France and Quebec?
Just want to thank you, my mom lost the combinaison of her costly cheap safe and because of your video I was able to open it in less than 30mns. At first I was thinking of making an openning at the back but your videos had me thinking of just making a drill hole in the front between the key-lock and the rotary dial. I was very lucky, the main pin was 1/2 inch from the hole and after making a second one I was able to open the safe. From the back I'm sure I had to work very hard for at least 4 to 6 hrs. Now I will make a litlle repair, disable the dial and just keep the key so my mom will be able to use it easely. You know, you voice is almost the same as the holographic doctor in Star Trek Voyager ? Keep the good job, you make great video.
@@andyowens5494 marketing people don't know anything about redesigning actual stuff for manufacture. There was definitely an engineer involved in this, however that doesn't mean the engineer is good, care about doing a good job, or was even able to do a good job because of the demands from people higher in the company. You want it fast, cheap and good? Sorry, you're only allowed to pick two of the three. If you want it fast and cheap it simply won't be any good, which is demonstrated here.
You're making an assumption not supported in the video. As far as I can tell, no one from Brinks said that this vulnerability had been addressed. Unnamed persons said that the locks are now different. And they are different, just not in the ways that matter.
When you see a new LPL, it's "Ooh! Goodie!". Then you notice it's less than 2 minutes long, and it's: "That's a poor quality lock". Then you spot there are two locks in the picture: "Ah. Very poor lock". Then he picks three locks in the time, and words just fail you ... LOL
It takes me longer to enter a single lock with the code than it takes him to open all three... And as to the comment "left vs right"... Nope. He just holding them reversed. Look at which side had the lock, and which side is attached to the body. The first is on the left, the others he held reversed. But not a viable lock.
Brink: Noun: a point at which something, typically something unwelcome, is about to happen; the verge. example in a sentence. I locked my shed with a brink.
I have to wonder to myself do lock companies ever hire someone to just attempt to pick their locks or find a flaw with them? I mean I feel like if they were able to make a pick proof lock that even LPL can't easily pick then imagine the advertising potential. What better endorsement then a street approval from LPL.
It's really easy to design something that you, yourself, can't figure out how to penetrate. This is as true in software as physical security. Ass a distaste engineer, I fully recognize that the mindset needed to build something is very often different from the mindset needed to crack something. The companies that value security know this and pay somebody else for penetration tests. Those that don't are like Master and Brinks.
I mean, I love LPL and the community but people who watch these videos and inform themselves about locks are but a tiny tiny fraction of the number of people who need a lock. LPL endorsing a lock isn't going to drastically change sell numbers. It's just so much more profitable to invest in cool looking materials and marketing campaigns for companies like Brink, it's not even worth doing anything more than the bare minimum security wise. Also, criminals don't tend to pick locks, they usually just break them. It requires very little training and is usually the fastest way to open a lock.
I realise and learn something about all lock on your channel. The material is not the main problem,but how to prevent it from been picked. A real challenging for all lock company to produce a very good lock.
Dude, it's worse, he can cut it in less than 5 second. But you gave me a better idea, a big chain and tangled with huge rope. The bad part is even the owner have a hard time to unlock the mess
Dude, you're not even wrong.... I picked up a lockpicking set recently and a handful of locks to start practicing with. The Brinks lock is the second worst in the set. Tension the keyway, insert a rake and rock it a bit and it falls open like you offered a hundred dollars at an 'adult entertainment facility'. It takes me longer to take off my shoes than it does to open this stupid lock. It's not even good for learning on. -__-
Imagine my shock! A lock manufacturer not fixing something? MasterLock has been selling the same crap for a hundred years... not gonna change just because of a UA-cam video.
Masterlock makes some relatively decent padlocks, but they're not on the shelves at home depot or walmart. It's the cheap, mass produced locks from companies like masterlock and brinks that people like LPL take an issue with.
You are awesome! I would not be surprised, if there were no loss prevention lawsuits against the manufacturers from designing inferior locks, Especially the ones, that say they are pic proof. To me that's false advertisement.
I really like this channel, but I wish that the videos would show lock gutting again. It's great that you show your picking skills, but I also enjoy how you dissect the lock after picking.
The great thing is that you never have to actually remember the combination! They could actually market this as a feature. Quick access bypass... Not for use with chastity belts.
My wife got me one of those learner kits this Christmas, so I started in on the big padlock, top of the keyway tension and... one is binding, got a click on one, one is set... two is binding, click out of him... nothing on three... four is binding, click out of four... Unfortunately, the lock wasn't listening. Merry Christmas, LPL, and thanks for all the great videos! ...my fingers hurt.
I've had the same problem with a couple of customers say that they were locked out of their padlock and I saw it and I started having flashbacks of that moment
Imagine around the board room table! “Engineering, design, what have you got to say for yourselves” “It’s not our fault, Well it is LPL nobody is safe! Yep you’ve got us there!!! “YOUR STILL FIRED”
Jeez... I can forgive a company having design flaws in cheap locks, but flat out lying about fixing them puts them on a whole other level of messed up.
Hey LPL. Whats the thickness of that bypass shim/knife ? Is the thickness for bypassing(tool) standard yet strong enough to push pressure on - .0012 etc?? Thanks for the awesome video and info 👍😉
makes me think the only thing stopping people from robbing the brinks trucks is the erroneous belief that brinks = security could probably spit it open
LPL you need to do a series call packaging vs locks where you compare which takes longer to open! i know some companies would fail and it would be good watching
These are low security locks anyway. Mainly because you can get the combination in about five minutes anyway. In my old neighborhood junkies and homeless people were opening up those key lock boxes that realtors use, so they can sleep overnight. Because like these Brinks locks, you can brute force the combination in a few minutes.
What a cool way to say Merry Christmas to the design team over at Brinks.
Yeah ...a team of 12 year old I guess ! A propper designer for locks shouldn`t make such a mistake . Also in my mind they even didn`t wanted to make a change at all . It feels like as If they would say : Shut up that`s what you get for your hard earned money ! I feel lucky that I never had a lock like that !
""team""
They haven't had a hands on that design in decades, so I wouldn't know why they would now at Christmas.
Even if they had good designers and engineers - the "value engineering" that would then happen would ruin it and it's what probably has happened to all their locks. It's a common practice now. Take a nice sturdy design and try to make it cheaper to make by cutting corners, using cheaper materials, removing features etc.
Does Brinks have anything to do with the design? Or did they license their name out to somebody with a check?
The Internet: Brinks' newer designs can't be bypassed in this way!
LockPickingLawyer: You don't even have time to hold my beer.
Zmodem I really have to wonder how Brinks got this past the, idk, board or qa or whatever checks are in place. Did they really think nobody would check just because they said it didn’t work?
"lets take the flaw, and move it to the other side!"
--Brinks, probably.
it's on the same side, well effectively anyway, the codewheels seem to have been reversed
First, I'll grab a metal shim cut from the soda that Bosnianbill and I drank...
A beer would be better.
Lol xD
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@@johanferozco but that would double the pick/bypass times into tens of seconds
LPL should make a special episode with all the dumb/funny phrases found here in the comments.
3 locks opened in a Brink of an eye.
Your comment is under-appreciated good Sir!! 🤣
That Guy i see what you did there
Lmao
I might legit die. That is the funniest thing I have heard all week
Video less than 2 minutes long: okay, that must be a bad lock!
NO, there are even 3 extremely bad locks.
Zedus 1982
25 seconds in and none are picked - "boy are these gonna be bad!"
He picked up the first lock about 20 seconds in, picked it, talked about there being new locks for about 30-35 seconds, picked up the second lock at about the minute mark, and had the third one finished by a minute and 20 seconds. That comes to about 30 seconds for the three locks with explaining as he went. If he was trying to be fast I think it would have been around 5 seconds for all three.
But the colors are nice.
If only they painted it red it would be more secure. People would be scared of it!
Put a big biohazard sticker on it.😲
Put home of the Zimmerman's on it.
Yep, beautiful 😁
That's how you know a lock is dangerous, like frogs.
The new style lock shackle is on the other way around though! This means you have to shim the code wheel on the right-hand side rather than the left as per the older style. Such fiendish trickery! Surely LPL won't see past this cunning lock development! :D
What if they didn't even switch the mechanism to the other side? What if they just put the logo on the back side of the lock so it looks like they moved it?
chasemc69 Thats exactly what they did - the weakness is at the hinged side of the shackle. Thats what marketing call re-engineering - but very low cost.
Are they good for anything else? Ballast? Paperweights? Doorstops? Let's focus on the positives!
do you work in marketing ? nice one i do like the way you think
I'm sure rapid-release clips have a place somewhere.
Its probably a good throwable object...
Deep sea fishing make a nice shiny weight......
They are great for attaching to bridges as a permenat symobol of your transient affection for someone, (because with this model its easy for the council to remove the locks and sell them on ebay to pay people to remove pointless and dangerous locks.)
Clever tactic from Brinks, basically guaranteed 2 lock sales to LPL.
Technically they're right. You can't shim the left side. You have to shim the right side
Turn the lock over. Problem solved!
Pick always goes in to the same side (underneath the rotating side of the shackle)
I was writing this until I looked up at the picture frozen at the end of the video.
Frank Gorshin would have made such an assertion on a particular episode of _Star Trek._
Still the same attack substantially.
No….he said “fixed” and “not susceptible to this type of attack”.
I have no interest in picking locks myself, but the quality of your videos is absolutely pristine. Right to the point, no gimmicks, no time fillers. Pure content.
I can only describe this as a *Jar-Jar Brinks* level of fail.
Meesa lika yoousa comment.
Nah this is already rose tico levels of bad
Jar Jar Abrams levels of fail.
These are not the locks that you are looking for...
went full rian johnson
Wonder if Brinks trucks use Brinks locks...
Brinks would be buying another fleet if that were the case :)
Actually they are different companies. It appears the locks are a branding deal. They are from a company called Hampton (Hampton Products International Corporation)
Brinks trucks also have guys with guns in them
Brinks is one of those companies that get pieces made from other factories.
Still, design is theirs
Barney fife don't count as guys with guns. :)
Brinks: "we fixed our flawed lock"
LPL: "Brinks it on"
I've always liked lpl's videos,hes not one of those types of youtubers that makes you sit through like 15 mins of bs just to get to the point,his videos are short and sweet and i think that if more youtubers were like him,this platform would be much better
That is due to something called "A stable job"
Anytime a lockmaker goes to sleep they immediately hear:
"This is the Lockpicking Lawyer..."
They wake up, drenched in a cold sweat, the voice doesn't stop:
"2 is binding, good click out of 3, 4 is binding..."
They can't take it anymore, they scream but cannot hear their own voice:
"And the lock is open"
hahahaha
at least dreams of his videos are short ones for many of these companies. I mean does he have enough content from master lock to make a decent nights sleep?
4 dislikes, must be the remaining Brinks stockholders.
Maybe because there were spoilers in the title.
@@HariSeldon913 bruh the video isn't even 2 minutes long. There's nothing to spoil
@@tj12711
r/woooosh
@@HariSeldon913 it's LPL I haven't seen a lock he didn't open so you know it's getting opened so all video are spoiler lock getting wrecked
34 dislikes atm
In my language (Portuguese), "brinks" is really an old slang for "joking",
Verdade, é uma verdadeira piada esses cadeados da Brinks hauahaua, mais fácil abrir eles desse jeito do que achar a chave do cadeado :v
hello fellow portuguese speaker
That might be an important clue... 😁
you must be brinksing
I don't know a lick of Portuguese (other than the word for "seal", thanks to the movie _Splash,_ oddly enough), but I'm curious whether you're talking about Portugal or Brazil. Is it as different as the French between France and Quebec?
That was a brutally simple and effective lecture. Zero fuss, just a massive burn on Brinks.
Just want to thank you, my mom lost the combinaison of her costly cheap safe and because of your video I was able to open it in less than 30mns. At first I was thinking of making an openning at the back but your videos had me thinking of just making a drill hole in the front between the key-lock and the rotary dial. I was very lucky, the main pin was 1/2 inch from the hole and after making a second one I was able to open the safe. From the back I'm sure I had to work very hard for at least 4 to 6 hrs. Now I will make a litlle repair, disable the dial and just keep the key so my mom will be able to use it easely. You know, you voice is almost the same as the holographic doctor in Star Trek Voyager ? Keep the good job, you make great video.
MasterLock : *"First time ?"*
The engineer that told them he redesigned the lock fixing that problem better start working on his resume
gsneff It wasn’t an engineer, it was some idiot in marketing (I’m not convinced theres any other sort in marketing).
@@andyowens5494 marketing people don't know anything about redesigning actual stuff for manufacture. There was definitely an engineer involved in this, however that doesn't mean the engineer is good, care about doing a good job, or was even able to do a good job because of the demands from people higher in the company. You want it fast, cheap and good? Sorry, you're only allowed to pick two of the three. If you want it fast and cheap it simply won't be any good, which is demonstrated here.
You're making an assumption not supported in the video. As far as I can tell, no one from Brinks said that this vulnerability had been addressed. Unnamed persons said that the locks are now different. And they are different, just not in the ways that matter.
@@TWX1138 to be fair, that's the kind of decision a marketing team would make XD
When you see a new LPL, it's "Ooh! Goodie!". Then you notice it's less than 2 minutes long, and it's: "That's a poor quality lock". Then you spot there are two locks in the picture: "Ah. Very poor lock". Then he picks three locks in the time, and words just fail you ... LOL
It takes me longer to enter a single lock with the code than it takes him to open all three... And as to the comment "left vs right"... Nope. He just holding them reversed. Look at which side had the lock, and which side is attached to the body. The first is on the left, the others he held reversed. But not a viable lock.
I’d love to see a reaction video of some of these lock designers watching a video of you opening one of their locks.
Brink: Noun: a point at which something, typically something unwelcome, is about to happen; the verge.
example in a sentence. I locked my shed with a brink.
Chris Russell he actually said that about one lock before. 😂😂😂
Takes LPL longer to upload the video to youtube than it does to open 3 locks.
I think they would be pissed at whoever was dumb enough to make that claim when it's got the exact same flaw
I have to wonder to myself do lock companies ever hire someone to just attempt to pick their locks or find a flaw with them? I mean I feel like if they were able to make a pick proof lock that even LPL can't easily pick then imagine the advertising potential.
What better endorsement then a street approval from LPL.
PacLock worked with LPL and bosnianbill during their design development.
@@brendanstanford5612 And they ended up making a decent lock because of it!
It's really easy to design something that you, yourself, can't figure out how to penetrate. This is as true in software as physical security. Ass a distaste engineer, I fully recognize that the mindset needed to build something is very often different from the mindset needed to crack something. The companies that value security know this and pay somebody else for penetration tests. Those that don't are like Master and Brinks.
Better yet.. let a lockpicker design the lock....
I mean, I love LPL and the community but people who watch these videos and inform themselves about locks are but a tiny tiny fraction of the number of people who need a lock. LPL endorsing a lock isn't going to drastically change sell numbers. It's just so much more profitable to invest in cool looking materials and marketing campaigns for companies like Brink, it's not even worth doing anything more than the bare minimum security wise. Also, criminals don't tend to pick locks, they usually just break them. It requires very little training and is usually the fastest way to open a lock.
RIP Brinks.
Rest Unlocked.
on the brink of extinction
Brinks has lied
I realise and learn something about all lock on your channel. The material is not the main problem,but how to prevent it from been picked. A real challenging for all lock company to produce a very good lock.
Old shoelaces will provide more security than this padlocks.
Headphone cables. Even LPL would take more than 2 minutes to untangle those...
Dude, it's worse, he can cut it in less than 5 second. But you gave me a better idea, a big chain and tangled with huge rope. The bad part is even the owner have a hard time to unlock the mess
Dude, you're not even wrong....
I picked up a lockpicking set recently and a handful of locks to start practicing with.
The Brinks lock is the second worst in the set. Tension the keyway, insert a rake and rock it a bit and it falls open like you offered a hundred dollars at an 'adult entertainment facility'.
It takes me longer to take off my shoes than it does to open this stupid lock. It's not even good for learning on. -__-
Lol you are every lock company’s worse nightmare! GG love your videos, even if it does scare me how fast you do it!
I like the blue one for my Christmas tree 🎄
Imagine my shock! A lock manufacturer not fixing something?
MasterLock has been selling the same crap for a hundred years... not gonna change just because of a UA-cam video.
Oh c'mon, give Masterlock some credit! They implement new vulnerabilities each year!
Masterlock makes some relatively decent padlocks, but they're not on the shelves at home depot or walmart. It's the cheap, mass produced locks from companies like masterlock and brinks that people like LPL take an issue with.
Brinks: We fixed the flaw in our lock!
LPL: (opens in seconds)
Brinks: (shocked Pikachu face)
"Folks, I wish that were true" 😳😳😳 oh here we go again
How to destroy a company a seconds
LPL: length of video is 1:40
Me: Oh boy there gon be a crime committed today
Brinks is on the *brink* with LPL
Brinks manship
Wow, you know you screwed up when the lawyer in LPL is confident enough to refute your claims in such a matter-of-fact way.
Please do a series on locks that you can’t pick!! At this point I’m skeptical there exists a lock that you can’t pick LPL!
You saying "Down on a shackel, down on a shim." is so soothing. You should print out that on to a shirt.
Brinks: we fixed the problem!
LPL: 🤨🥱🔒🔓 “Yeah ok”
Do they make a Velcro model?
⛇
Brinks continuing to demonstrate their lapse in good judgement.
LPL can just look at a lock and it will open for him.
I used to think the world was a safe and secure place....then I discovered TheLockPickingLawyer
I love how short this video is and it's a revisit I find that humorous.
You are awesome! I would not be surprised, if there were no loss prevention lawsuits against the manufacturers from designing inferior locks, Especially the ones, that say they are pic proof. To me that's false advertisement.
Coming soon: the Brinks stapler.
Just staple your valuables to a table
"Ha, made you buy 2 more, sucker."
I really like this channel, but I wish that the videos would show lock gutting again. It's great that you show your picking skills, but I also enjoy how you dissect the lock after picking.
26 Brinks employees didn't enjoy the latest LockpickingLawyer's video.
Tis a shame.
The five dislikes are the Brinks design team.
Another great video, thanks for taking the time to make it!
They totally cured the ability to do it on the left side.
Imagine putting LPL in prison then you hear *click out of one nothing on two three is binding*
The great thing is that you never have to actually remember the combination! They could actually market this as a feature. Quick access bypass... Not for use with chastity belts.
I’d love to see a video with recommended locks in the most common categories.
At this point I'm sure brinks are secretly a bunch of criminals intentionally making bad locks so they can easily perform insurance fraud
brinks was trying to trigger LPL for sure
When I saw the ! in the title I knew he was pissed.
My wife got me one of those learner kits this Christmas, so I started in on the big padlock, top of the keyway tension and... one is binding, got a click on one, one is set... two is binding, click out of him... nothing on three... four is binding, click out of four... Unfortunately, the lock wasn't listening.
Merry Christmas, LPL, and thanks for all the great videos!
...my fingers hurt.
Always on point, always informative
I purchased one of these before I saw the video. I'm glad I kept the receipt....
At a minute and a half I had to watch this ! Well worth it.
"This is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and you're watching the Disney Channel!"
I wonder how many companies have tried to sue the lawyer himself
They were hoping that the fact they they “redesigned” the locking mechanism would be enough of a deterrent in and of itself
The first time an employee points this out they are fired!
Brinks: We have newer mechanisms for our locks!
LPL: Omae wa mou shindeiru..
Brinks: NANI?
I've had the same problem with a couple of customers say that they were locked out of their padlock and I saw it and I started having flashbacks of that moment
No lock was harmed in the making of this video.
It’s funny because you can low key hear he’s angry af.
I wish you and your Family a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year
Thank you for all the videos.
They successfully sold two new locks, though.
Just wow. I love this channel...thanks to you I've never felt safer in my life cause now I know which locks are a joke.
You just want me to weld everything shut and use an angle grinder as a key
The newer look, with the emboldened logo, only makes them easier to identify. Merry Christmas.
can i just say how much i appricate you to the point video style
Wow. Brinks should be ashamed.
Brinks, when you absolutely positively have to compete with Master Lock!
Someone at Brinks just got fired.
Hey LPL, they totally fixed it! You have to insert the shim on the RIGHT side now.
Imagine around the board room table!
“Engineering, design, what have you got to say for yourselves”
“It’s not our fault, Well it is LPL nobody is safe! Yep you’ve got us there!!!
“YOUR STILL FIRED”
Jeez... I can forgive a company having design flaws in cheap locks, but flat out lying about fixing them puts them on a whole other level of messed up.
Hey LPL. Whats the thickness of that bypass shim/knife ? Is the thickness for bypassing(tool) standard yet strong enough to push pressure on -
.0012 etc??
Thanks for the awesome video and info 👍😉
makes me think the only thing stopping people from robbing the brinks trucks is the erroneous belief that brinks = security
could probably spit it open
One minute and forty three seconds. He pwns three Brinks locks. This is so short it can't even be depressing how bad the locks are.
Looks like 5 former Brinks employees gave you a thumbs down.
"But it doesn't work on the LEFT code wheel anymore! See? Fixed!" -Brinks, probably
Merry Christmas Mr L P Lawyer...love you vids
LPL you need to do a series call packaging vs locks where you compare which takes longer to open! i know some companies would fail and it would be good watching
This just in: Brinks CEO jumps off the Brinks corporate building roof.
Unbelievable because so many people trust the Brinks name.
Another Brinks beatdown lol great review,keeping em honest!
No, no, Brinks, you're supposed to beat Masterlock by being _better,_ not _worse_
As always thank you for the education,I see these lock in the gyms and share videos like this with some members there reaction is 😯
These are low security locks anyway. Mainly because you can get the combination in about five minutes anyway.
In my old neighborhood junkies and homeless people were opening up those key lock boxes that realtors use, so they can sleep overnight. Because like these Brinks locks, you can brute force the combination in a few minutes.