Best scenario would be trade back to mid to late 20s like 27 and get a second and land bo nix or penix I kinda like bo nix but this may be first time in history we see 5 qbs in 1st rd if not I like Jordan Travis like 4th rd he'll probably go in 3rd though
@@SeaHawkersPodcast look at jordan Travis tape he's a good development qb for 2 3 yrs I can't wait to see if John finds a qb he likes that he can get in this draft 1 if he dont the qbs he wanted were gone or 2 he gets couple extra draft picks and grabs like penix or bo to develop for 2 or 3 years just depends where we get one at if he trades back and drafts one in 1st rd I'll trust John or use the 2nd and nix is still there or penix would be good too if we don't draft one or use a 3rd or 4th to get one then it'll be exciting to see who we get in 1st rd like Byron Murphy or laiatu latu or Jared verse or power Johnson so exciting but let's say we get a 2nd rd pick and trade late in 1st there won't be alot left worth that 1st rd pick so I would be ok getting qb there and use a 2nd on like Ruke Orhorhoro or Kris Jenkins or like a Zach zinter guard that would be really good too and I really hope we get DT Braden fiske that dude is explosive and quick and splits gaps it takes 2 people to push him which opens linebackers
Penix is a mid to high second round pick. The fan base is being gaslight into thinking he should be picked as high as 16. I trust in John not to fall for any of this crap.
You may be right. However, I don't equate all the moves to that. They got rid of the very obvious overpays. Safety not paid as SEA had envisioned. Uncle Will's contract was big given his Offensive production, Bellore??? If it was a true tear down I think you see what the Broncos are doing and say, yeah that's a complete rebuild now. FA will tell us a LOT.
Sure, but we barely talked about Lock. Question would you rather have: Geno+Loco Geno+First Round QB Geno+3rd or 4th Round QB Weighing what you might get draft wise in each scenario.
JJ is the most overrated QB in this draft. I've watched him play he's not a QB that can carry an offense if you think that well i'm sorry but i see no evidence to back that up.
He seems to be splitting folks into pretty specific camps. I think his 3rd down conversion % is at least an indicator that he can ball. We'll see, right? I think he can play, but I thought Zach Wilson could play too. This is CB btw. Who is your favorite in the group?
Adam you continue to destroy your creditability. There is not one statistic that proves that Geno is a top ten QB. Why do you keep repeating things that are not true.
Lmao haters all day ok 1st geno was top ten in every category in 2022 and then top 15 in every category in 2023 with both tackles out over half the season withonly 1 starting olineman almost all season with missing 2 games and with the highest pressure rate and top 3 most sacked qb in the league cmon you all just hate if you give geno a top 15 oline he'll be a too 6 qb all year and the nail in the coffin is the worst defense all year 2 years straight without geno we wouldn't made playoffs in 2022 or been any where close in 2023 now pro e me wrong
What part of ten less throws for a touchdown in 2023 than in 2022 do you not understand? I know. The Seahawks might invite you to a team party where you can kiss Geno’s (not Super Bowl) ring.
Singling out TD throws is not a great argument. High variance year over year. He missed time + the offensive line was worse and a bottom 5 unit in key areas. This was not a flowing offense last year. Geno's not free of criticism. Did you watch the games and think it was mainly on Geno? I didn't.
I do see some of the issues he had are ones that he avoided more last year. Conversely the same issues Baker improved on. The Com-D could be the coach that moved on. Geno is a very talented dude I hope we stick with, doesn’t mean I’ll cry if we take a QB early but I’d love a trade back and oodles of linemen
Cardinals game. First downs: Seahawks 18, Cardinals 24 Total yards. Seahawks 327, Cardinals 466. Last play of the game Prater misses a 43 yard field goal in a domed stadium. He makes that field goal and your talking eight and eight. This was one of the nails in the coffin for Caroll. Did the Cardinal QB out perform the Seahawks QB in that game? Never mind, you’ll just think of some other excuse for Geno.
Was Geno playing defense that game and we missed it??? Teams RAN the ball down our throats down the stretch. You failed to mention James Conner ran for 150 yards and the Cards had the ball around 37 mins to SEA 23 mins!
You were a field goal away from making the playoffs? You were a field goal away from losing to the Cardinals. You know, the team that ended up last in the division. The Cardinals provided your red colored glasses.
OK, most fringe teams are literally a play or so away from playoffs or not. Including SEA. If Myers makes the kick vs the Rams in a game the team absolutely handed away, then the Seahawks indeed would have made the playoffs. Not sure what the dislike is on that one. It's the NFL, most games are tight.
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Sick of hearing all this geno bull but all geno haters say he sucks nothing backing it up lmao
I’m cool not taking a QB, but I won’t be upset if we do.
Depends how high for me.
Top RT / RG or a QB who's not playing. For me (CB) I'd be upset if that's the case.
Best scenario would be trade back to mid to late 20s like 27 and get a second and land bo nix or penix I kinda like bo nix but this may be first time in history we see 5 qbs in 1st rd if not I like Jordan Travis like 4th rd he'll probably go in 3rd though
@@SeaHawkersPodcast look at jordan Travis tape he's a good development qb for 2 3 yrs I can't wait to see if John finds a qb he likes that he can get in this draft 1 if he dont the qbs he wanted were gone or 2 he gets couple extra draft picks and grabs like penix or bo to develop for 2 or 3 years just depends where we get one at if he trades back and drafts one in 1st rd I'll trust John or use the 2nd and nix is still there or penix would be good too if we don't draft one or use a 3rd or 4th to get one then it'll be exciting to see who we get in 1st rd like Byron Murphy or laiatu latu or Jared verse or power Johnson so exciting but let's say we get a 2nd rd pick and trade late in 1st there won't be alot left worth that 1st rd pick so I would be ok getting qb there and use a 2nd on like Ruke Orhorhoro or Kris Jenkins or like a Zach zinter guard that would be really good too and I really hope we get DT Braden fiske that dude is explosive and quick and splits gaps it takes 2 people to push him which opens linebackers
Penix is a mid to high second round pick. The fan base is being gaslight into thinking he should be picked as high as 16. I trust in John not to fall for any of this crap.
And he still could be gone by 16!
If Rattler last till the third I’m good rolling the dice on him.
And he just might!
I wouldn’t mind getting JJ McCarthy if that’s who John and MM want. Especially if we address Guard and MLB in FA.
Bo nix is probably the only one that will be available
All the moves the Hawks have made say they are rebuilding. You do NOT rebuild with a 36 year old. Rebuild with a Young teachable stud.
You may be right. However, I don't equate all the moves to that.
They got rid of the very obvious overpays. Safety not paid as SEA had envisioned. Uncle Will's contract was big given his Offensive production, Bellore???
If it was a true tear down I think you see what the Broncos are doing and say, yeah that's a complete rebuild now.
FA will tell us a LOT.
JJ will be the 3rd or 4th QB taken. There is no way he is there at 16. we would have to go up and get him.
I think he's long gone by 16 too. We'll see but I think you're right.
Geno under contract lock isn't that's all it is so stop the bs😂
Sure, but we barely talked about Lock.
Question would you rather have:
Geno+Loco
Geno+First Round QB
Geno+3rd or 4th Round QB
Weighing what you might get draft wise in each scenario.
Go Hawks🙂💙💚
Always!!!
Go Hawks.
Go Hawks, Ryan!
JJ is a system QB
Is that bad? If so, how bad? What's the ceiling of system QB?
JJ is the most overrated QB in this draft. I've watched him play he's not a QB that can carry an offense if you think that well i'm sorry but i see no evidence to back that up.
He seems to be splitting folks into pretty specific camps. I think his 3rd down conversion % is at least an indicator that he can ball. We'll see, right? I think he can play, but I thought Zach Wilson could play too. This is CB btw.
Who is your favorite in the group?
Would we even be talking about penix if grubb wasn’t our OC?
Probably. Still UW success, still a legit arm, still nearly 50% of the fan base thinking Geno is a bottom 1/2 of the league QB.
Adam you continue to destroy your creditability. There is not one statistic that proves that Geno is a top ten QB. Why do you keep repeating things that are not true.
Haters gonna hate
Lmao haters all day ok 1st geno was top ten in every category in 2022 and then top 15 in every category in 2023 with both tackles out over half the season withonly 1 starting olineman almost all season with missing 2 games and with the highest pressure rate and top 3 most sacked qb in the league cmon you all just hate if you give geno a top 15 oline he'll be a too 6 qb all year and the nail in the coffin is the worst defense all year 2 years straight without geno we wouldn't made playoffs in 2022 or been any where close in 2023 now pro e me wrong
All of this! Adam
What part of ten less throws for a touchdown in 2023 than in 2022 do you not understand? I know. The Seahawks might invite you to a team party where you can kiss Geno’s (not Super Bowl) ring.
are you ok?
Singling out TD throws is not a great argument. High variance year over year. He missed time + the offensive line was worse and a bottom 5 unit in key areas. This was not a flowing offense last year. Geno's not free of criticism. Did you watch the games and think it was mainly on Geno? I didn't.
I do see some of the issues he had are ones that he avoided more last year. Conversely the same issues Baker improved on. The Com-D could be the coach that moved on. Geno is a very talented dude I hope we stick with, doesn’t mean I’ll cry if we take a QB early but I’d love a trade back and oodles of linemen
Cardinals game.
First downs: Seahawks 18, Cardinals 24
Total yards. Seahawks 327, Cardinals 466.
Last play of the game Prater misses a 43 yard field goal in a domed stadium. He makes that field goal and your talking eight and eight. This was one of the nails in the coffin for Caroll. Did the Cardinal QB out perform the Seahawks QB in that game? Never mind, you’ll just think of some other excuse for Geno.
Was Geno playing defense that game and we missed it??? Teams RAN the ball down our throats down the stretch.
You failed to mention James Conner ran for 150 yards and the Cards had the ball around 37 mins to SEA 23 mins!
You were a field goal away from making the playoffs? You were a field goal away from losing to the Cardinals. You know, the team that ended up last in the division. The Cardinals provided your red colored glasses.
OK, most fringe teams are literally a play or so away from playoffs or not. Including SEA. If Myers makes the kick vs the Rams in a game the team absolutely handed away, then the Seahawks indeed would have made the playoffs. Not sure what the dislike is on that one. It's the NFL, most games are tight.
JJ is going to be mediocre at best. Even his biggest fan (Brock Huard) compares him to Alex Smith. I'd rather stick with Geno.
We will see. Also, Adam gave the Alex Smith+ comp on this show. Outside the top 3 QBs, do you have a favorite?
@@SeaHawkersPodcast Penix or Nix.
Don't overthink this: Grab Penix at 16. It's a fun discussion, though😊
Surely is. So legit you'd rather have Penixn over Fautanu or Fuaga if he's there?