Fun fact: The German UA-cam Channel „Pietsmiet“ asked the developers if they could make a character based on them and the developers made the Streamer. That is why the character has a green controller, because that’s the Pietsmiet logo.
Oh good to know! I knew a lot of items and characters were based on early adopter streamers, but didn't know the specific one there. Thanks for the info!
This is among the best “how to” gaming content I’ve ever come across on UA-cam. I’ve found all of his Brotato class guides to be clear, articulate, and extremely helpful. That said, I couldn’t make this work with the SMG or slingshot. Against the advice at the beginning of the video, I went with an engineering build and cleared level 5 on my first attempt. Regardless, great stuff. Thank you for posting.
well executed! i think the streamer flavor comes from when he sits still in front of his pc, he generates passive income, and when he is in the real world, he moves fast and needs to be high effective to go back asap at sitting still in front of his pc. makes a lot of sense to me! 😅
Thanks very much! Sure, that makes sense - though I personally suspect the real reason it's the "streamer" is so every popular streamer would make a video titled "they made me in a video game!" Which I think worked so well played, Brotato devs
I disagree about the "flavor" of the character. I think this is one of the smartest class designs I've seen in any game. The idea that a streamer is sitting in front of their PC generating money, but as the stream scales and bloats, it becomes harder for them to move away from it (speed). If they do move in any other direction, the impact is jarring (damage and attack speed). Their income from traditional means is meager (material drops). The hardware and home/room they invest in creates security (armor from structures). When I first saw the character, just the stats alone made me chuckle at all these subtle flavors... not many stat boxes in games can do that, AND the streamer isn't alone in this. The Old, Crazy and Knight all have great flavor, too. Strong design by the devs.
2 big correction regarding landmines and pocket factory. Structures regarding the armor is based on item not actual structures on the field. So the landmines always gives 2 armor whatever there is 0 or 10 mines on the field, and pocket factory sadly never gives armor. Wiki from the character page: "With Landmines the +2 armor is from the item itself, not for each mine on the field. "
@@Cephalopocalypse yea quite sure I tested it and the pocket few days ago, I didn't blindly trust wiki ^^, and we can see at 10:03 you gain the 2 armor, don't think you paused during the game so can't see there that it doesn't change
Thank you for just getting into the video without some annoying intro and not waffling on about something not relevant to the video. This is my second video of yours. Have a sub!
I just beat the game with this character and I now have every achievement. I had to use the slingshot because I am not as skilled as you. Thanks for your videos!
Honestly after failing ten times with SMGs and one-shotting with Slingshots, I'd just say slingshots are the goat on this one imho. Thanks for the guide though.
I think maybe what he is missing here about the flavour is that streamers are sitting on their arses quite a lot and not literally moving around, they sit around static and generate income.
I didn't have any trouble with one arm, it was streamer and jack that caused me the most issues. after you mentioned the structure bonus I just went full engineer and it was almost no problem.
39:17 I had a little idea about why its called streamer when he stops moving, hes streaming and making money off of it, and then when he moves it probably more difficult to shoot guns, move, and stream at the same time so he stops and makes zero income
I can't believe you didn't buy the Wisdom at 29:41. Was that a mistake, or you don't think it's good even on the streamer? It seems like it's perfect for the streamer, since you're pretty OP for the first 15-20 seconds of a wave, anyway.
I usually avoid wisdom, because it contributes to falling behind on clearing enemies and getting overwhelmed. You're right it's more interesting for Streamer, though, since you get weaker as the wave goes and that can help counteract that effect. Definitely worth trying!
Streamer is pretty easy to understand. Every class in the game has to prioritize economy early on or you have no chance in hell, for most classes that means harvesting and luck, but for streamer wave clear IS their economy because it allows them to stand still for longer. Then like every other class in the midgame you need defense which includes speed otherwise you'll get overwhelmed. Of course all of this is subject to shop RNG not shafting you.
When a streamer is in the middle of a game, they'll stop to acknowledge a donation or read the donation message. I figured that was the reasoning for The Streamer's stop moving and collect money mechanic.
Are the Alien eyes not like the Retromation's Hoodie, where it's uneffected by the cap? I'm pretty sure that's how all Items work with caps but not 100%
Here's some tips and issues you may have: yes it's good to stand still, but dying is worse than not getting an extra 3 gems you should be safe from waves 1-3 on Waves 1-2. Stand still until 3 seconds left unless a tree is seen. Then, you may want to move early. If you find the bag that gives you 15+ material per crate, GRAB IT Focus Range damage your damage % will be impossible to keep up late-game Everytime yo usee current or another things similar to it grab it plus anything that gives you bonuses for standing still On Wave 6 of difficulty 5, focus on the eggs so you can stand still for longer periods of time. Before elites or swarms use your gems or you'll most likely die
Final character to beat, was soo difficult to get past the first 9 waves but after that it got very easy, tried multiple different builds but eventually won with this one. Got the chain gun which helped a lot
I'll become nuts with that one. I've tried several builds for hours. As the guide, with slingshots, with structures, with shotguns... I always die. It seems that my biggest problem with that one is the damages I take, even if I choose to pick a lot of steal life or regen, armor, even dodge. And if I boost my damages high as I can, I don't have enough HP or defense to survive.
After I understood how this character works, I think it's one of the easiest ones and is just a pure power fantasy - perhaps I got lucky by getting 5 baby geckos and other stuff, but my number one hardest one remains the Saver, I just despite how horrible that one feels.
Well, you seemed to have an easier time in danger 5 than I did in danger 2 😅I hate this character, he's one of the dozen reasons or so of why I'm not going for a full danger 5 clear.
This is imo the hardest character, so it can definitely be frustrating! Honestly before I switched to the smg build I was having a lot of trouble getting it consistent at all
@@Cephalopocalypse I happened to choose Streamer for my second ever Danger 5 clear last night. My biggest takeaway was that it's crucial to get your economy going as early as possible. For me, this meant starting with an SMG, and abstaining from buying anything from the shop until after Wave 2. A single SMG is actually strong enough to get you through the first two waves while remaining completely still (other than grabbing materials at the very end of the wave)
It doesn't, buying that was a mistake! Really easy to forget you have torture. And I generally don't like wisdom, though it's a little better on streamer - it makes killing elites quickly more difficult, which is usually the goal. The start of the wave you need all the burst damage you can get so you don't get on the back foot.
@@Cephalopocalypse thanks very much for the answer I was also wondering, with the current lunar event going on and the extra 10% speed, the mines, the 50% chance to instantly pick up mats and the dragon elite that spawns, isnt it much easier to complete D5 runs? Is it cheating if I complete D5 runs this month? Lol
I just beat Danger 5 on Streamer. It was pretty miserable. My winning build had 5 trees, 3 bags, good amount of harvesting(~200 by wave 20). I got 2 sausages and 1 snake pretty early too. My weapons were 5 lightning shivs and 1 thunder sword. Just got lucky with what items appeared in the store. Not sure I could win again. I've got 7 classes left, of which 2 might be difficult.
My least favorite character. Just wasn't fun for me and It felt like a chore trying to complete D5. Only won after I stopped being so greedy. I hung around 400-500 materials at MAX. While before I was trying to maximize and stay above 825 or whatever that max value is for the 25 mats every second. Your videos always help me and show me other ways to do things. I did it with wrenches funny enough because I don't really like engineer builds at all. Good RNG didn't hurt haha.
I only have 2 left, Streamer and Glutton. This will be helpful as I always get to around wave 11/12 and the -26+ speed gets me killed. For Glutton I'm trying to do it without using Pruners, I've had moderate success with screwdriver and even less success with shredder, is it even possible with either of those weapons?
Awesome, glad the video helps! Shredder should be possible, I think. Screwdriver is a very difficult weapon to use, though, so while i think that's *possible* to win with I'd save it for a challenge run or something like that. I talk a little more about the issues with the weapon in my upcoming weapon tier list so keep an eye out for that :)
@@Cephalopocalypse I won with Streamer last night (full SMGs) following your video as a rough guide. This morning I won with Glutton (all screwdrivers after failing 4 or 5 shredder attempts in a row). I had always gotten further with screwdrivers on Glutton then shredder so you may want to give it a try. Grabbing consumables stacks explosion damage, I started off by boosting my health since Glutton has a low life-pool at the start. Then I focused on attack speed, melee damage, armor (because I took stone skin), luck, speed, and dodge. I think I got lucky because I grabbed x2 Rip and Tear which did wonders for wave clear. I also took a couple turrets that showed up in the shop, grabbed improved tools, explosive bullet, panda, lucky cat x2, plastic explosives, landmines, tractor, shackles when I had 23 speed, and your random assortment of t1 and t2 items.. Had 4 red screwdrivers, a purple, and a blue at the end. a bit of range felt good, allowed me to stand back. I'm at all D5 cleared now, happy to be done!
I feel like the SMG route relies on huge luck a the start of the run. I've just tried it now and already can't clear waves while standing still, even if I spend all my money, by wave 3 or 4...
@@فيصلالحربي-س9ق1ي There is always risk/reward in these choices. The 15 max hp is not insignificant after all. 4hp per second is decent, but it does need a good player to navigate the levels to be enough.
Yeah I just can't win with SMGs. Not sure how you make it look doable, but I've tried for months now to beat it with streamer on D5. You have great content .... But I just can't win. Maybe another build that's doable?
I was desperately rerolling for speed late game and so i spent about 4000 materials to get 5 luck. I also casually entered wave 20 with 2500 materials and pretty much instantly lost.
Tried SMG and slingshot but somehow I cleared this with turrets and harvesting. Ended up with high speed, armour from 12 structures and high regen from Fairy and regen potion. With a few boxing gloves, just running like a rat in circles, visiting my medical turret from time to time. barely killing anything.
I just cant get the damage stats i need early on, even with a lucky run and investing all money into guns and damage buffing items, it becomes hard to stand still and deal damage after wave 5 ish. I really dont know what to do, no amount of damage is enough. Past a certain point i have to run around so much that i cant make any money
This is imo the hardest class and took me several tries - One thing is when you *do* get forced to move, try to find a spot where you will be able to tick a few times without having to move again, rather than just moving a little bit. Also I get pretty greedy with the starting money in this guide, you could try starting waves at 100 or 200
I think you massively underestimate minigun. While it does have lower base DPS, it has a bunch of soft stats that make it way better: mainly, the piercing. It may only scale a bit more than twice as hard off flat damage, but if you are using the piercing, it applies that doubled scaling to an extra enemy, which can easily mean it's getting more like 300% more damage scaling off flat damage. It also, in the early game, does double the DPS of SMG's, once you factor in that it's piercing and the SMG's aren't. That, and it's crit mod is higher. But mostly, it's that the minigun pierces and SMG's don't.
All good points! I think I forgot it pierces when reviewing it. I have found that your single-target dps takes a hit at certain breakpoints when switching smg to minigun, but I'd have to do a lot more math to figure out when those are based on numbers rather than vibes :P
I tried to make this work about 20 times or so. No luck. Didn't get a god roll like the one here, but a couple good ones. It's just not enough to stop getting overrun and then I can't use the passive income at all. Tried slingshots and went the distance on my first try, even though that roll was also far from ideal. Obviously SMGs can work, but it seems so much harder than slings.
Streamer with padding, piggy bank, a potato launcher and spending 0 money sounds like crazy damages scaling. With 3 paddings at +25/sec, its 3hp /4 sec so +9damages / sec with 6 launcher (1/2 ×3 ×6). So more than +2/sec
I struggeld real hard with gun builds, but with an engeeniering build i got it first try, but i got really lucky to. I got lots of structures, pocket factory and the elemental book. 90 Armor in the End anr the last 5 waves i got 3000-4000k without moving and i killed 2 of the 3 elites.
We had Torture in this build, so *all* other sources of healing are disabled, including regen, lifesteal, consumables, even stuff like Adrenaline and Medical Turret.
Streamer flavour. You stop playing the game and interact with chat and make more money. When you focus on the game you turn it up but nobody cares about the good gameplay.
Fun fact: The German UA-cam Channel „Pietsmiet“ asked the developers if they could make a character based on them and the developers made the Streamer. That is why the character has a green controller, because that’s the Pietsmiet logo.
Oh good to know! I knew a lot of items and characters were based on early adopter streamers, but didn't know the specific one there. Thanks for the info!
@@Cephalopocalypse Also the Item Bloddy Hand was requested by the german YTber and Streamer HandOfBlood
Maybe one day I'll get one and it will be a little golem made of magic😂@@Cephalopocalypse
This is among the best “how to” gaming content I’ve ever come across on UA-cam. I’ve found all of his Brotato class guides to be clear, articulate, and extremely helpful. That said, I couldn’t make this work with the SMG or slingshot. Against the advice at the beginning of the video, I went with an engineering build and cleared level 5 on my first attempt. Regardless, great stuff. Thank you for posting.
Ooh, I had the same result with this guidance. I'll have to try the engineering build. Thanks!
well executed! i think the streamer flavor comes from when he sits still in front of his pc, he generates passive income, and when he is in the real world, he moves fast and needs to be high effective to go back asap at sitting still in front of his pc. makes a lot of sense to me! 😅
Thanks very much! Sure, that makes sense - though I personally suspect the real reason it's the "streamer" is so every popular streamer would make a video titled "they made me in a video game!" Which I think worked so well played, Brotato devs
I disagree about the "flavor" of the character. I think this is one of the smartest class designs I've seen in any game. The idea that a streamer is sitting in front of their PC generating money, but as the stream scales and bloats, it becomes harder for them to move away from it (speed). If they do move in any other direction, the impact is jarring (damage and attack speed). Their income from traditional means is meager (material drops). The hardware and home/room they invest in creates security (armor from structures). When I first saw the character, just the stats alone made me chuckle at all these subtle flavors... not many stat boxes in games can do that, AND the streamer isn't alone in this. The Old, Crazy and Knight all have great flavor, too. Strong design by the devs.
Amazing!
been stuck on this character for a month and just got a D5 win after watching your guide! tysm
Damn I was locked in listening to your explanations. So clear with no bs. Will be back for more content. Thanks!
Thank you for the info!
2 big correction regarding landmines and pocket factory. Structures regarding the armor is based on item not actual structures on the field. So the landmines always gives 2 armor whatever there is 0 or 10 mines on the field, and pocket factory sadly never gives armor.
Wiki from the character page: "With Landmines the +2 armor is from the item itself, not for each mine on the field. "
That's very possible! I'd definitely test that for yourself though, the wiki unfortunately is not very reliable for structure interactions
@@Cephalopocalypse yea quite sure I tested it and the pocket few days ago, I didn't blindly trust wiki ^^, and we can see at 10:03 you gain the 2 armor, don't think you paused during the game so can't see there that it doesn't change
Awesome, thanks for checking that out!
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Thank you for just getting into the video without some annoying intro and not waffling on about something not relevant to the video. This is my second video of yours. Have a sub!
Thanks very much! Appreciate the kind words and welcome to the channel :D
"I don't like the fact that Slingshot is the answer to anything, do i'm gonna play SMG ". This is hilarious 😂
Gotta do what you gotta do!
Had to laugh too when I heard it😂
"Welcome to today's Potatostream, we try to speedrun surviving hell on earth, with some broken money strats"
Do you think the Brotato streamer calls their community the Spud Buds or the Fry Guys
@@CephalopocalypseFry Guys for sure
Your videos are the best! Struggled with this character for so long. Not only did I win, but it's the first time I've gotten past wave 40.
Nice, congrats!
I had three ricochets and you still made it look way easier. Love the videos. Helps a lot. Thank you.
Thanks very much!
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Great content man.
Haha, thanks! Screenshot thing has to do with my streaming setup and the way it interacts with Godot (brotato's engine). Hard to fix on the fly.
I just beat the game with this character and I now have every achievement. I had to use the slingshot because I am not as skilled as you. Thanks for your videos!
Nice, congrats!
TYSM, I was struggling really bad on this character on my d5 grind.
Honestly after failing ten times with SMGs and one-shotting with Slingshots, I'd just say slingshots are the goat on this one imho. Thanks for the guide though.
ive done 9 failed D5 runs on streamer.. definitely the hardest potato so far at least for me
finally did it with slingshots and turrets
Oh nice congrats! and yeah, definitely the hardest class imo
Liked subbed, learning a lot about the game from these vids, thanks a bunch :)
Thsnks for making this. I could not understand this character at all before you broke it down. I don't get the flavor either.
I think maybe what he is missing here about the flavour is that streamers are sitting on their arses quite a lot and not literally moving around, they sit around static and generate income.
Definitely true! I enjoy how much analysis that comment has gotten :D
I didn't have any trouble with one arm, it was streamer and jack that caused me the most issues. after you mentioned the structure bonus I just went full engineer and it was almost no problem.
39:17 I had a little idea about why its called streamer
when he stops moving, hes streaming and making money off of it, and then when he moves it probably more difficult to shoot guns, move, and stream at the same time so he stops and makes zero income
I can't believe you didn't buy the Wisdom at 29:41. Was that a mistake, or you don't think it's good even on the streamer? It seems like it's perfect for the streamer, since you're pretty OP for the first 15-20 seconds of a wave, anyway.
I usually avoid wisdom, because it contributes to falling behind on clearing enemies and getting overwhelmed. You're right it's more interesting for Streamer, though, since you get weaker as the wave goes and that can help counteract that effect. Definitely worth trying!
YOU CAN COMBINE WEAPONS, OMG! Literally finished most potatoes before knowing this. 😂
Aren't the plus enemies items also really good on the apprentice? Additional enemies drive that character's infinite stats mechanic
Streamer is pretty easy to understand. Every class in the game has to prioritize economy early on or you have no chance in hell, for most classes that means harvesting and luck, but for streamer wave clear IS their economy because it allows them to stand still for longer. Then like every other class in the midgame you need defense which includes speed otherwise you'll get overwhelmed. Of course all of this is subject to shop RNG not shafting you.
When a streamer is in the middle of a game, they'll stop to acknowledge a donation or read the donation message. I figured that was the reasoning for The Streamer's stop moving and collect money mechanic.
Are the Alien eyes not like the Retromation's Hoodie, where it's uneffected by the cap? I'm pretty sure that's how all Items work with caps but not 100%
Just got further in the video where Alien eyes gets recycle and definitely is uneffected by the cap.
New to the game, love your content :)
Here's some tips and issues you may have:
yes it's good to stand still, but dying is worse than not getting an extra 3 gems
you should be safe from waves 1-3 on Waves 1-2. Stand still until 3 seconds left unless a tree is seen. Then, you may want to move early.
If you find the bag that gives you 15+ material per crate, GRAB IT
Focus Range damage your damage % will be impossible to keep up late-game
Everytime yo usee current or another things similar to it grab it plus anything that gives you bonuses for standing still
On Wave 6 of difficulty 5, focus on the eggs so you can stand still for longer periods of time. Before elites or swarms use your gems or you'll most likely die
Last tip: Structures's damage doesn't get influenced by %damage
"You may have mastered passive income, but we haven't mastered leveling up" 💀
Final character to beat, was soo difficult to get past the first 9 waves but after that it got very easy, tried multiple different builds but eventually won with this one. Got the chain gun which helped a lot
Nice, congrats!
I'll become nuts with that one. I've tried several builds for hours. As the guide, with slingshots, with structures, with shotguns... I always die.
It seems that my biggest problem with that one is the damages I take, even if I choose to pick a lot of steal life or regen, armor, even dodge. And if I boost my damages high as I can, I don't have enough HP or defense to survive.
After I understood how this character works, I think it's one of the easiest ones and is just a pure power fantasy - perhaps I got lucky by getting 5 baby geckos and other stuff, but my number one hardest one remains the Saver, I just despite how horrible that one feels.
Great guide. This character is giving me so much trouble. It’s the last potato I need to beat and I just haven’t been able to haha. Anyone else?
Great video! I got destroyed so many times ar danger 2 with streamer because I got low speed or get too greedy.
Streamer is DONE. The greed is indeed real. Thx!!
Well, you seemed to have an easier time in danger 5 than I did in danger 2 😅I hate this character, he's one of the dozen reasons or so of why I'm not going for a full danger 5 clear.
This is imo the hardest character, so it can definitely be frustrating! Honestly before I switched to the smg build I was having a lot of trouble getting it consistent at all
@@Cephalopocalypse I happened to choose Streamer for my second ever Danger 5 clear last night. My biggest takeaway was that it's crucial to get your economy going as early as possible. For me, this meant starting with an SMG, and abstaining from buying anything from the shop until after Wave 2. A single SMG is actually strong enough to get you through the first two waves while remaining completely still (other than grabbing materials at the very end of the wave)
Would it be possible to play into the lower speed penalty and try to drop it as far as you can in order for Esty's couch to heal you for a ton?
Great content 😁
The Streamer name makes perfect sense. If you move out of the picture you will not make money.
I have 2 questions: Does the healing turret heal although you have torture? And why didnt you buy wisdom?
It doesn't, buying that was a mistake! Really easy to forget you have torture. And I generally don't like wisdom, though it's a little better on streamer - it makes killing elites quickly more difficult, which is usually the goal. The start of the wave you need all the burst damage you can get so you don't get on the back foot.
@@Cephalopocalypse thanks very much for the answer
I was also wondering, with the current lunar event going on and the extra 10% speed, the mines, the 50% chance to instantly pick up mats and the dragon elite that spawns, isnt it much easier to complete D5 runs? Is it cheating if I complete D5 runs this month? Lol
@@Cephalopocalypse Not really a mistake since its still 2 armor after all.
Nice one!
I can't do it with the SMG, I always get swarmed around wave 10 to 12 ...
I'm gonna try the engineering route now
I like the slingshot
I just beat Danger 5 on Streamer. It was pretty miserable. My winning build had 5 trees, 3 bags, good amount of harvesting(~200 by wave 20). I got 2 sausages and 1 snake pretty early too. My weapons were 5 lightning shivs and 1 thunder sword. Just got lucky with what items appeared in the store. Not sure I could win again.
I've got 7 classes left, of which 2 might be difficult.
i think the idea is that the streamer is streaming when he's not moving because streamers sit in one place.
My least favorite character. Just wasn't fun for me and It felt like a chore trying to complete D5.
Only won after I stopped being so greedy. I hung around 400-500 materials at MAX. While before I was trying to maximize and stay above 825 or whatever that max value is for the 25 mats every second.
Your videos always help me and show me other ways to do things. I did it with wrenches funny enough because I don't really like engineer builds at all. Good RNG didn't hurt haha.
Any thoughts on redoing this on the new map?
torture and healing turret are working together ?
They don't, but the streamer gets bonus armor from constructs so it's basically buying 2 armor
I only have 2 left, Streamer and Glutton. This will be helpful as I always get to around wave 11/12 and the -26+ speed gets me killed. For Glutton I'm trying to do it without using Pruners, I've had moderate success with screwdriver and even less success with shredder, is it even possible with either of those weapons?
Awesome, glad the video helps! Shredder should be possible, I think. Screwdriver is a very difficult weapon to use, though, so while i think that's *possible* to win with I'd save it for a challenge run or something like that. I talk a little more about the issues with the weapon in my upcoming weapon tier list so keep an eye out for that :)
@@Cephalopocalypse I won with Streamer last night (full SMGs) following your video as a rough guide. This morning I won with Glutton (all screwdrivers after failing 4 or 5 shredder attempts in a row). I had always gotten further with screwdrivers on Glutton then shredder so you may want to give it a try. Grabbing consumables stacks explosion damage, I started off by boosting my health since Glutton has a low life-pool at the start. Then I focused on attack speed, melee damage, armor (because I took stone skin), luck, speed, and dodge. I think I got lucky because I grabbed x2 Rip and Tear which did wonders for wave clear. I also took a couple turrets that showed up in the shop, grabbed improved tools, explosive bullet, panda, lucky cat x2, plastic explosives, landmines, tractor, shackles when I had 23 speed, and your random assortment of t1 and t2 items.. Had 4 red screwdrivers, a purple, and a blue at the end. a bit of range felt good, allowed me to stand back. I'm at all D5 cleared now, happy to be done!
@@vpr5555 Awesome, great job! Winning with screwdrivers is not easy at all so I'm impressed you made it work!
Just could not do it with the SMG. The engineering route oddly worked better for me. Oh well, thank you for all your tutorials!
I feel like the SMG route relies on huge luck a the start of the run. I've just tried it now and already can't clear waves while standing still, even if I spend all my money, by wave 3 or 4...
It was the same for me. Failed many times trying the SMG way, but engineering got me through on the first try.
Smg needs a decent bit of ranged dmg stat to work, and life steal to survive. It can't just work on its own. And then attack speed too.
couldnt do it.. neither the smg nor the slingshot got me a win. Then i tried the intendet tech build and easy first try win. Dunno what happened there
I'm gonna try too so... I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, I'm doing the closest as possible as the guide, but I'm losing since hours.
Wouldn't the medical turret not work with the torture?
Torture is horrible with this character you need life steal as main health regain
@@فيصلالحربي-س9ق1ي There is always risk/reward in these choices. The 15 max hp is not insignificant after all. 4hp per second is decent, but it does need a good player to navigate the levels to be enough.
Yeah I just can't win with SMGs. Not sure how you make it look doable, but I've tried for months now to beat it with streamer on D5. You have great content .... But I just can't win. Maybe another build that's doable?
I was desperately rerolling for speed late game and so i spent about 4000 materials to get 5 luck.
I also casually entered wave 20 with 2500 materials and pretty much instantly lost.
omg...
39:11 sitting in chair = not moving. But I suppose that’s no different from any office job. Maybe it’s a not touching grass dig
Tried SMG and slingshot but somehow I cleared this with turrets and harvesting. Ended up with high speed, armour from 12 structures and high regen from Fairy and regen potion. With a few boxing gloves, just running like a rat in circles, visiting my medical turret from time to time. barely killing anything.
life steal on miniguns is just op
For sure! So much healing
I just cant get the damage stats i need early on, even with a lucky run and investing all money into guns and damage buffing items, it becomes hard to stand still and deal damage after wave 5 ish. I really dont know what to do, no amount of damage is enough. Past a certain point i have to run around so much that i cant make any money
This is imo the hardest class and took me several tries - One thing is when you *do* get forced to move, try to find a spot where you will be able to tick a few times without having to move again, rather than just moving a little bit. Also I get pretty greedy with the starting money in this guide, you could try starting waves at 100 or 200
I think you massively underestimate minigun. While it does have lower base DPS, it has a bunch of soft stats that make it way better: mainly, the piercing. It may only scale a bit more than twice as hard off flat damage, but if you are using the piercing, it applies that doubled scaling to an extra enemy, which can easily mean it's getting more like 300% more damage scaling off flat damage. It also, in the early game, does double the DPS of SMG's, once you factor in that it's piercing and the SMG's aren't.
That, and it's crit mod is higher. But mostly, it's that the minigun pierces and SMG's don't.
All good points! I think I forgot it pierces when reviewing it. I have found that your single-target dps takes a hit at certain breakpoints when switching smg to minigun, but I'd have to do a lot more math to figure out when those are based on numbers rather than vibes :P
I tried to make this work about 20 times or so. No luck. Didn't get a god roll like the one here, but a couple good ones. It's just not enough to stop getting overrun and then I can't use the passive income at all. Tried slingshots and went the distance on my first try, even though that roll was also far from ideal. Obviously SMGs can work, but it seems so much harder than slings.
Definitely depends on your playstyle I think - glad you found a way that works!
at 43:29 SMG(IV) -6100dmg --- MiniGun(IV) 10 000+dmg
44:59 smg , 9600 ---- minigun 14500 , so yeah worth
Good looking out, always important to look at the numbers!
it's the , and . frame by frame skipping that did most of the job, you were going over the items pretty quick haha@@Cephalopocalypse
Streamer with padding, piggy bank, a potato launcher and spending 0 money sounds like crazy damages scaling. With 3 paddings at +25/sec, its 3hp /4 sec so +9damages / sec with 6 launcher (1/2 ×3 ×6). So more than +2/sec
I struggeld real hard with gun builds, but with an engeeniering build i got it first try, but i got really lucky to.
I got lots of structures, pocket factory and the elemental book.
90 Armor in the End anr the last 5 waves i got 3000-4000k without moving and i killed 2 of the 3 elites.
Nice, congrats!
The second you get etsy's couch, you win.
Mother elite blows man , even more with streamer
Definitely the hardest for a lot of builds!
Wow I didnt think stream would go well with gun build
Yeah all the advice I see says go slingshots or turrets, but honestly I find this a little easier and much more fun
Why did you say you cant use the life regen on the tomato upgrate. You can use hp regen just not lifesteal
We had Torture in this build, so *all* other sources of healing are disabled, including regen, lifesteal, consumables, even stuff like Adrenaline and Medical Turret.
Its cause streamers are constantly standing still to read chat.
Sling shot must have been nerfed. Just can’t win with them
yeah for people who have a tiny bit of luck this might work.....I won't get anything useful....
Streamer flavour. You stop playing the game and interact with chat and make more money. When you focus on the game you turn it up but nobody cares about the good gameplay.
Did it with pruner hahahah
Nice! That's extremely difficult.
Love when people on youtube make mistakes, makes me realise theyre only human, FYI, medical turret was a waste of money because of torturer :)
For sure! Torture is very easy to forget
@@Cephalopocalypse oh yeah! Absolutely, love the videos by the way!
Nope, it still grants 2 armor so not a mistake.
@@kobarsos82 i mean his response says it was a mistake regardless of armor it wasnt intentional
Im not good at thos game at all. Pickle Pete is much better for me.
I skipped to 2:36 and you've not even begun the round. Guess I'll leave.
Damn that must have been really hard on you, hope you feel better soon!
Why do you even care about speed while you need to stand still?
You still need to move when a bunch of projectiles come at you...
Bro you are fake😂😂😂😂
bro you are incoherent
@@Cephalopocalypse .