I may not be explicitly Christian, however, actual religion aside, I choose to side with Christians purely because of the hypocrisy at play. Can you even imagine anyone getting away with saying anything close to similar about the Muslim or Jewish faiths? I should think not. It’s hilarious how people who are explicitly against Christianity always like the belief of “turning the other cheek” purely to use against the faith, never to realize Christianity is the sole religion you are allowed to, or even praised for rallying against and dog piling.
@@Establishing_Truth Even though sources officially approved by the catholic church with Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur say that there are pagan Christmas traditions.
@@gambalombo Officially approved by the Catholic church? I wasn't aware that this matter is of such importance to Rome that it needs to approve sources as if it were a matter of doctrine.
@@Establishing_Truth Externals of the Catholic Church Page 140: "Some Christmas Customs. When we give or receive Christmas gifts, and hang green wreaths in our homes and churches, how many of us know that we are probably observing pagan customs? We do not wish to assert that they are not good customs; but they undoubtedly prevailed long before Christian times. The Romans gave presents on New Year's Day, and our bestowing of gifts at Christmas is a survival of that practice, as well as a commemoration of the offerings of the Magi at Bethlehem. The Yule-log, a feature of Christmas in old England, goes back to the days of the pirate Norsemen. Holly and mistletoe and wreaths of evergreen have been handed down to us by the Druids. And even our good old friend Santa Claus, that mysterious benefactor of our childhood days, existed in one form or another long before Christianity had attributed his virtues to St. Nicholas; for the god Woden, in Norse mythology, descended upon the earth yearly between December 25 and January 6 to bless mankind."
Fascinating that your god saw fit to give humanity free will, but even the idea of it respecting that free will makes you so angry. Mary having a choice may not be directly analogous to abortion, but it would be directly analogous to birth-control, the use of which you most likely have the same stance on, if you differentiate them at all. Feel free to correct me about your stance on birth-control, but keep in mind that a massive portion of your faith would accuse you yourself of demonic blasphemy for doing so.
We do condemn both, for different reasons. The encyclical Humanae Vitae is the best source to read if you want to understand our position since it directly addresses the issue. Based on the arguments presented in the encyclical I don't think it's accurate to say that Mary's choice is analogous to birth control.
I may not be explicitly Christian, however, actual religion aside, I choose to side with Christians purely because of the hypocrisy at play. Can you even imagine anyone getting away with saying anything close to similar about the Muslim or Jewish faiths? I should think not. It’s hilarious how people who are explicitly against Christianity always like the belief of “turning the other cheek” purely to use against the faith, never to realize Christianity is the sole religion you are allowed to, or even praised for rallying against and dog piling.
It's self professed Christians doing it in this case.
but christmas and even easter are pagan? "Our holiday"? yall stole it first
Those claims are based on outdated historiography. Both holidays are thoroughly Christian in origin.
@@Establishing_Truth Even though sources officially approved by the catholic church with Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur say that there are pagan Christmas traditions.
@@gambalombo Officially approved by the Catholic church? I wasn't aware that this matter is of such importance to Rome that it needs to approve sources as if it were a matter of doctrine.
@@Establishing_Truth Externals of the Catholic Church
Page 140: "Some Christmas Customs. When we give or receive Christmas gifts, and hang green wreaths in our homes and churches, how many of us know that we are probably observing pagan customs? We do not wish to assert that they are not good customs; but they undoubtedly prevailed long before Christian times. The Romans gave presents on New Year's Day, and our bestowing of gifts at Christmas is a survival of that practice, as well as a commemoration of the offerings of the Magi at Bethlehem. The Yule-log, a feature of Christmas in old England, goes back to the days of the pirate Norsemen. Holly and mistletoe and wreaths of evergreen have been handed down to us by the Druids. And even our good old friend Santa Claus, that mysterious benefactor of our childhood days, existed in one form or another long before Christianity had attributed his virtues to St. Nicholas; for the god Woden, in Norse mythology, descended upon the earth yearly between December 25 and January 6 to bless mankind."
This has:
Nihil obstat-ARTHUR J. SCANLAN, S.T.D. Censor Librorum
Imprimatur-Francis J. SPELLMAN, D.D. Archbishop, New York
Fascinating that your god saw fit to give humanity free will, but even the idea of it respecting that free will makes you so angry. Mary having a choice may not be directly analogous to abortion, but it would be directly analogous to birth-control, the use of which you most likely have the same stance on, if you differentiate them at all. Feel free to correct me about your stance on birth-control, but keep in mind that a massive portion of your faith would accuse you yourself of demonic blasphemy for doing so.
We do condemn both, for different reasons. The encyclical Humanae Vitae is the best source to read if you want to understand our position since it directly addresses the issue. Based on the arguments presented in the encyclical I don't think it's accurate to say that Mary's choice is analogous to birth control.