I have nothing against reproduction cartridges, especially for rare games, IF they are advertised as reproductions, and priced accordingly (meaning very cheap).
@@dogg-paws I guess if you have some sort of a flash cart that lets you play ROM's on the original hardware, that will work. Some people just want to have physical games in their collection, and for some games, the price of a legitimate copy is just WAY too high.
@@Matanumi Cartridges can be quite expensive to produce. Keep in mind that SNES and N64 cartridges ranged from $50 to $70. I don't think it's worth the effort for Nintendo, they'd rather stay focused on the Switch.
These things are great considering the absolute nonsense prices of the retro market these days. I used to be a bit of a snob but I couldn’t give a damn about authenticity anymore.
I have some gbc games lmao Pipfall, Tetris, all Mario games and all Pokémon games I kept them since i was a child i never knew people want to buy them lmao I will probably sell them now
@@Matanumi there's one last Game Crazy in Salem Oregon my sister visited recently. They charged nearly $100 for a copy of Pokemon: Gale of Darkness. I bought it on ebay for $30.
they still sell R4 super cheap and can take 32gb and larger i believe p.s these CAN'T be R4 as they haven't (from what i heard) haven't been able to hack 3ds i've asked on reddit R4 3ds aren't the same as jailbroken cfw 3ds and only redressed as the OLD ds hacks it CAN'T play 3ds games
A lot of the knock of Pokémon games seem to work perfectly until later in the game where they corrupt. I legit got to the champion on my fake copy of emerald and it corrupted just before the fight.
I got on Etsy some enhanced GBA games of Doom and Doom 2, running at a better framerate and unedited. I’m actually very happy with it! It also has the normal color palette so it looks amazing on the Analogue NT.
yeah, I am also of the opinion that repro cartridges on retro systems for rare or digital-only games are a good thing. I actually love that BS Zelda cart. I am definitely against things that pass off as legitimate for a quick buck.
Quick note on the 500-in-1 DS cart: it likely comes in that small case because the build quality of the casing itself. I nabbed one a while ago and stuck it in the case. It went in fine, but it split in two when I tried pulling it out. Nothing too bad (they pop open and shut) but it does sort of explain the clasping case.
I only got the 256 in 1 and it's been fine for me. I also switched out the microSD for a larger capacity microSD I had around. Been tempted to throw a romhack or two on it.
I bought one of those a while ago and I absolutely adore it (I deleted most of the premade roms and downloaded new ones, including a bunch of rom hacks, and got to replay Explorers of Sky without having to delete my childhood save! :’]) but I can definitely agree that the quality of the cart itself is low. It’s held for a while, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it fell apart someday haha
6:10 “it almost feels like a waste of plastic” -referring to the case or whatever you wanna call it that is the perfect size for the ds cartridge and NOT to the default box that is at least 20x the size. Ah yes, such a waste…
That Zelda BS-X looks fascinating... I have a hard time going back to the NES version due to its graphics but the SNES sprites of Zelda 1-esque is great
The problem with repro Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal, and probably Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald is that the real carts have a RTC and the repros do not. The game won’t crash or anything, but the clock will not tick. For RSE, that means no berry growth and not much else. For GSC, it locks out all of the time of day features and day of the week features.
If the game is more than 100 bucks, I'm getting a repro cart. Period. I'm not a collector, I don't like the hoarder/scalper mentality, and I just want to play on original hardware.
Hard agree, but also definitely like the route of flash carts. Both the physical feel and convenience of roms. But would buy reasonable repros of my favourites!
True, especially for systems like Neo Geo. Even MVS carts have become ridiculous since covid, but then again, those nice, chungus carts are part of what's so satisfying about the system! Especially when there's some really great repros out there. Most of the time, like for NES, SNES, Sega Master system or Genesis, I'll get originals because the overwhelming majority of the games aren't crazy expensive. If it is, I'd rather have a repro, as long as the seller has good feedback, isn't using 3.3v chips without proper converter/buffer chips (like a lot of early all in one room carts for a lot of systems), etc.
This takes me back to when I used to buy burnt games for my PS2. At that time, I couldn't afford games at retail price and my parents were working to make ends meet not really much left over for luxury. So $5.00 for a burnt PS2 game that was the jam, through that I was able to experience and open my perspectives to new games that I would have never been able to play and quite frankly known about. Years later, thankfully my situation has changed, and I'm fortunate now where I am able to purchase games at retail. I am more willing to go to franchises such as Metal Gear, Yakuza, Ratchet & Clank etc. because of the exposure I had back years ago thanks to burnt games. There will always be a market for reproductions or fakes, because everyone's situation is always different
Well said, when we got used PS1 in 2003 almost every game I had was cd copy. Only original game I had was some EA Sports boxing title. We didn't have any money for games, everyone copied them where I lived. Not to mention that copyright law in Poland didn't really exist in late 90s/00s.
I know how it is! Burned copies or reproduction cartrigdes can really help when you're in a less fortunate time in your life. Now I can pay the full price, I obviously do!
dude, you could save some money, buy a hard drive, upload a bunch of ROMs on it, and play this way. the original fat PS2 supports this kind of thing. my friends who don't want the laser to break, use this method.
@@teacherfromthejungles6671 It wasn't an option back then. Now, sure. This method is way better than wearing down your old laser, it's also faster and more convenient, but still costs more than burning a few cds/dvds if you only want to play one or two games a month.
I used to work in the Entertainment sections of an electronics store. I remember vividly the amount of people coming up to me each day asking where the "little cards where you can load up all the DS games" were. I always responded with "We don't sell them, we sell the actual games". Imagine the confusion on some people's faces when you tell them you don't sell the illegal thing.
Sometimes these are worth it. I bought a copy WWF No Mercy for N64 that has a micro SD save instead of battery based. That game had a notorious "erase all your progress" issue and if anyone old enough remembers how long it took to unlock things, it was $ well spent .... The Smackdown Mall was not cheap!
I bought my pokemon crystal repro like a year ago, it still works perfectly fine, the time just advances while you play, it doesn't track your time in real time, but it's not important, the game is perfectly playable as is
I could live with that compromise, I just wouldn't like it as much as the eshop version since that is still able to to track time while it's not running.
I have that 500 in 1 games cartridge. Only annoying thing about it is you have to manually scroll the games list. Very convenient to have, considering you don't have to carry a bunch of games at once.
I have every pokemon repro and the ds ones have been fine for save corrupting, but the gameboy ones are pretty faulty when it comes to corrupting and a few of them didn't even work out of box :p the gba ones are also pretty functional no issues so far. The multicart is phenomenal also you can swap out roms as you choose and no saving issues or anything
lmao, when I saw Link's sprite wearing a baseball cap in the fake version of the first NES Zelda, I immediately heard "IT'S THE LEGEND OF ZELDA AND IT'S REALLY RAD ... " in my head
HGSS was always expensive. I remember buying it in high school (~2015/2016) and it was selling ~$60 used, compared to DPPt which was usually around $30-$35.
That satellaview cartridge is really cool because even until really recently emulating the Satellaview system was pretty difficult, a repro cart like that is still probably the easiest way to play it
The other thing is that that character select menu is custom, with a real BS-X there was a bios styled like Earthbound where you would create a character and profile to be used in the broadcast games that supported it
It would be pretty cool if there were hacks for the N64 increasing framerate using the expansion pack, something similar to the hacks used in SNES games to utilize the SA1 chip for games like Gradius III.
I found the goldeneye with mario characters about a year ago, it is absolutely hilarious to play. Was even able to get a crew for multiplayer and beers for a couch co-op night. If you were ever a fan of goldeneye it is both nostalgic and side splitting funny.
I bought an Ocarina of Time Master Quest reproduction cart for N64. They had just exported the rom off of the GameCube disc and put it on a cartridge. Unfortunately, it hit the anti-piracy measures and I couldn’t catch any fish. I didn’t play it to the end, but I’ve heard that the doors Zelda opens in Ganon’s Castle at the end don’t open on reproduction carts. I’m sad they didn’t account for this in the cartridge, but I’m not surprised.
Honestly with the price of the retro market repo games are a good way to go. I actually went ahead and got myself an ezflash cart and a ds flash cart because the prices have turned to ridiculous levels. Even for just the cases with no manuals, heck even the manuals alone. No thanks. I will say the carts are nice because you can play them on their OG hardware which I found out was the experience I enjoy best.
You. You get it. I keep being told to just emulate. I don't enjoy gaming on a computer. I'd rather play on the hardware the game is meant for. I'd rather the authentic experience. Unfortunately there are some games that are way too expensive so I've resigned that the only way I'm playing them is through emulation. For example Tail Concerto. I had the demo disc at some point and have wanted the full game. I am not willing to pay $300+ for an english copy of it. I can get the japanese copy for around $30 but that doesn't help me since it's region locked and I don't have a japanese console nor do I speak it. My only option is emulation. I hate that I have to do that because of stupid collectors.
@@ZombifiedBuizel its so crappy isn't it? I used to emulate every once in awhile but would always stop in a few days and I couldn't understand why. Getting the flash carts helped a lot and at least nowadays we have ways of modding consoles to have them run from memory cards/microsds if we need to emulate. Its all just a shame.
@@KoalaBeAsh Absolutely horrendus. I'm thankful Nintendo did that console emulation on the Switch. I would never have gotten to play Earthbound and Super Metroid otherwise unless I emulated on a pc. I'm also thankful of remasters and remakes.
If the genuine games weren't sooo expensive I would buy them, but because their not I will get the repo games. And yes I do feel bad about doing it but Nintendo & others needs to know, Money doesn't grow on trees
@@thefadedone8192 But you don’t have it forever. Cartridges go bad and discs have disc rot so you paying $100+ for a game is just stupid when you know about these kinds of things. I have a personal rule where I can only pay $50 max for a game so if something does happen to it I won’t be as bummed.
A lot of fakes are easy to spot if you know what to look for, but easiest way is to see the circuit board, a lot of auctions include a picture of the board now. I always take the carts apart when they arrive to make sure the board is real, and to clean it and replace the save battery.
I am someone who greatly prefers the original copies, but for a long time I couldn't afford soul silver so I had to buy a fake on eBay. It worked perfectly well and saved just fine. If the company's deny us legal or authentic ways of playing there games then it's their fault
It's also because of artificial inflation caused by hoarders who think they need more than 2 copies of a game. 1 for playing and 1 for collecting.I know a few people locally who have their hearts set on getting every copy (or so it seems) of a certain franchise which is pretty sickening to the retro collecting community. Then you have reseller's who buy many copies of some games at really good prices (thrifting for an example) just to turn around and gouge their next buyers.
These get bought from people like me. We want retro, we don't have time to build our own MistR emulators, or we can't get RetroArch to work. We get fed up and just want to play our oldschool games and give in to these fake games. I don't.. when I say people like me, I mean that I get fed up too. I just wont go as far as to buy the false stuff. I just empathize with those that do.
When I was a kid, my mom bought one of those "150 GBA games in 1" sorta deal on a marketplace but instead of a scam, it turned out to be a flashcart with the proper cords, CDs and everything, as well as a written tutorial on where and how to safely download ROMs, and how to use the flashcart's software to install 'em. That was my surprisingly wholesome introduction to flashcarts, and emulation in general, so I like exploring those fake "x in 1" cartridges, just to see what fun shenanigans they pull off
the problem with the pokemon crystal game is that it uses more of a "Save State" like an emulator, so if you leave the game off for a day or two time won't advance at all.
That SoulSilver was SUPER high quality, as it even had the small dot in the top corner of the back which is notoriously hard to clone. It also appears the Crystal was using a GBA Board maybe?
This guys weird sweaty chuckle whenever he’s like appalled or disgusted irks me in ways I thought impossible. “You see that glob on the card.. ehheh.” You’d think he was trying to grab the attention from the lady who cut him off in line at the supermarket. “Eheh.. heheh.”
Can't believe you never finished Zelda. You should definitely go for it. I remember back in the day explaining over dinner to my Mom that I finished it that afternoon. She had no idea what I was talking about but I was hyped!
That broadcast thing sounds like the old Sega Channel from back in the day. We didn't have it, but my aunt did, so my brother and I would go over and play the games they had on at the time. It was awesome. Probable slow as death, but it was mind blowing for us...
So some things I've learned buying older Pokemon games. Before you go searching, focus on a specific copy and make sure to learn how to tell a real from a fake by looks (plenty of articles to check.) Next is to focus on more expensive ones. From my experience, most will be $70-$120 with most genuine copies typically being $90+ so it's not likely for super cheap copies. Then of course, always stay close to ones that have pictures of the cartridge. With a game like the gen 5 Pokemon games, they'll have infrared so if you find a seller that holds the cartridge up to the light and you see a reddish, purple-ish hue, then that is a genuine copy. Another is to make sure the pictures are clear. If something is a bit blurry and you think it might say something accurate, I find it better to cut your losses and move on. So far I've gotten a genuine Heart Gold copy, a genuine Sapphire copy, a genuine New Leaf copy, and a genuine White 2 copy from eBay sellers. It really is all about looking for it and examining. Deals will come and go and it's often better to look when you know you can afford it and to be prepared for higher prices. It doesn't take too much of a keen eye as long as you know what they look like. It typically will be better if there are more pictures and especially with DS games, you'll want to see the back of it so you can compare the letters to the ones on the front cause that'll instantly tell you if it's real or fake. The four letters on the back and front should match because those are unique to that game title specifically so if the back is different, it means it's fake cause that cartridge held another game and is dumped onto it basically (sorry if my lingo isn't exactly correct, I know my stuff but not the specific words.) I've had a Heart Gold fake copy before from an American seller that was expensive, but still a fair price and the games look very different. Also the colors on the front picture tend to be muted or different in a way that they don't really match up. Either way, do your research and look at sellers that give a few pictures. The ones I've bought from typically show 3-5 pics of the cartridge for proof. You can find genuine copies fairly easily, but you gotta be able to know. And if it seems too good to be true, it often is. I also find pricing to be a bit better on eBay for genuine copies than Amazon and it's much easier for me personally to use eBay due to how the site is set up so I typically do my shopping there. And most of all, checking local retro stores or second hand shops can be wonderful. I'm lucky that I have one around here with several items from cards to stuffed animals to books to movies to games, etc. but I know not everyone has easy access to a place like that. So if you can access a place like that, it's much better to try there every so often since you can check em out in person. So this is just a bit of a guide to spotting Pokemon games. Those are the ones I buy since I didn't get into Pokemon till I was 15 with Pokemon Black before the prices jacked up for them (around the release of USUM.) I never got to experience most Pokemon games so I'm trying to get one version from each gen or pairing to really try it. Gen 3 games were the last ones I needed so with Leaf Green, I have officially played one game from every generation pairing or trio of mainline Pokemon games. But anyway, don't give up hope if you can't find a game or you got a fake copy. I thought I'd never get Heart Gold and now I have as well as many more games I thought to be impossible to get my hands on a genuine copy of. There's always someone out there selling it and so good luck hunting for those that want em :) /gen /srs Edit: Nothing wrong with non-authentic copies if they work fine. I just know with Pokemon games, they'll be less likely to work and will glitch out. My Heart Gold copy couldn't play the Voltorb flip game, completely glitched out, deleted my data, and could no longer save so at least for Pokemon games, genuine is better. But that is the only knowledge I have of fake vs real games and so as long as the game plays as intended and there's no issues, it's not my problem. I don't know everything about game reproduction or anything else so this is just from my experience and knowledge with buying older Pokemon games.
Reporudction carts are amazing. Ive been playing through a ton of games on my analogue pocket and saves have been working great. I can justify the outrageous pricing for alot of classic gameboy advance games. Reporudction carts are really good nowadays.
"You were never really into Zelda?" ...... this my friend is extremely sad to hear and I don't you comprehend or will ever know the true scope or impact of this tragedy and loss. Which, is probably a good thing. I'm 54 nearly and back in the 86 when the NES launched, I was 15 or 16 and I had to save my ass off to come up with the $79 dollars. Zelda was amazing. So was Metroid when it came out, Zelda 2 as well.
I own countless cartridges. I have every snes, nes, 64, DS, and Genesis game on 5 cartridges. I have a ton of repro cartridges and all of them work flawlessly.
The whole satellaview thing reminds me of the sega channel. it was mindblowing for the time. It was done thru ur cable, not thru a satellite, tbh a sattelite seems way overcomplicated for something like this.
Be careful buying fake games. I bought "Adventure Island IV" for the NES from eBay. It was cool to see it work, and it was doing fine at the start but shortly after finding a mini game the controls did not work. I was so disappointed. Fun fact: "Adventure Island IV" was the last title made for the Famicom.
I used to sell assembled/soldered DIP-to-TSOP boards with flash memory chips for SNES carts on eBay. Basically the usual conversion PCB with a chip large enough for most games. Barring a few specific games (Star Ocean, Super-FX games) this chip was basically a slot-in replacement for the original mask ROMs. I undercut the Chinese sellers by a few dollars, offered free chip programming services (and basic testing for romhacks and such) and had my material pipeline set up perfectly to get the right chips in bulk. I still made a fair margin of like 50% on these ROM boards. Though the income was nice, I mostly did this for therapeutic reasons. I know that may sound weird, but I got the process down to where I would complete a board every 10 minutes or so. I would use my binocular microscope and well established routine to very neatly solder the TSOP chip (which is not all that hard even by hand, just tack one corner and then either drag solder them or do pin-by-pin) and DIP legs. After soldering, testing (first continuity, then in a SNES), programming and cleaning I had very professional, lovely looking boards. Actually started out seriously soldering for practical reasons, wanting to play some translation hacks on the SNES. I did of course also try some of the older EEPROMs, but the problem with those is that I could only get them used, and also erasing them was a pain (with UV and such). I discovered one of these DIP-to-TSOP boards and eventually I modded some shitty soccer game into a test cart with a ZIF slot. I also did do some more challenging ROM replacements for Star Ocean and Mario RPG, those had odd ROM chips and the best fit replacement was one with a slightly different pin-out and a different operation voltage. Those mods were fun and really helped me practice. I usually sold these in low volume to individual modders who wanted to play romhacks and such but did not want to invest into an Everdrive - or - soldering equipment, programmer and chips to mess up. It was a small side hustle, and it was mostly therapeutic like I said. Something about soldering these small chips just felt relaxing to me. Honestly, if you're gonna do batches of repro carts, you might as well just forego the conversion boards and EEPROMs and just use a modern TSOP chip directly. I believe some of them have serial programming, or you could even do it via the cartridge edge or before you solder the TSOP. For personal use, it beats paying for an Everdrive if you already have the gear, but still, just get an Everdrive haha.
If someone wants to genuinely just play the game get the fake cartridge all day but a collector needs to know the information you have thanks for the content
I think I previously bought that counterfeit SoulSilver, and it was alright, but unfortunately the Game Corner was impossible to use. Every time, the game froze and I had to close and re-open it. I never finished it, but I would assume the game works otherwise even up to the Champion's screen and Kanto.
Ahh the classic fire extinguisher sniper rifle :) GG Goldeneye. You actually did pretty well, the last time my buddy and I tried to play Goldeneye like 10 years ago, we found ourselves wondering how we used to actually play it, and why or how it was even fun. It was all we had back then though. Loved Paintball mode and how it would "realistic" bullet hole marks on the walls and doors and stuff.
Some things I don't like about the counterfeit games is the issue where sometimes you can't trade to a legit copy of the game. Makes me think that transfer pak functionality just won't be there for that counterfeit crystal.
As someone who has very little knowledge on R4 carts and who doesn't have a PC at the moment, I really enjoy the rom cart that I got. It's nice to just have them preloaded on there.
I have nothing against reproduction cartridges, especially for rare games, IF they are advertised as reproductions, and priced accordingly (meaning very cheap).
And if they works fine
Honestly I don't really see much of a point to them, you may as well just pirate the game instead.
@@dogg-paws I guess if you have some sort of a flash cart that lets you play ROM's on the original hardware, that will work. Some people just want to have physical games in their collection, and for some games, the price of a legitimate copy is just WAY too high.
that's how I feel. If they work and run just as well as the original who care. I got a reproduction of Earthbound and runs perfect no issues.
@@Matanumi Cartridges can be quite expensive to produce. Keep in mind that SNES and N64 cartridges ranged from $50 to $70. I don't think it's worth the effort for Nintendo, they'd rather stay focused on the Switch.
Goldeneye with Mario characters is one of those hilarious rom hacks that I can’t believe exists but now want in my collection immediately.
00:30 - Pokemon Soul Silver DS
03:12 - Pokemon Crystal GameBoy
05:37 - 500 in 1 games for DS
08:50 - Goldeneye 64 with Mario characters
11:44 - BS / Satellaview Legend of Zelda
I'm so proud of you. :)
Mario on the GoldenEye cartridge made me laugh so hard :'D
Huh? Is GoldenEye on Marioos?! Jiegoooeew thats pretty sweet with the 007
Mario FPS
Hatsune miku pfp
@@ScruffyFF yeah love her
The sprites in the game and the Koopas getting killed made me laugh even harder than Mario on the Goldeneye cartridge.
Love the effort that went into the BS Zelda Cart, definitely shows that it's not just a quick cash grab like the Pokemon repros.
Looks like a completely awesome new game
I played that a while back as a ROM. It felt like playing a new Zelda game.
wonder where he bought it
True. Seemed more like a genuine preservation project for a pretty much lost game from the days when internet was barely available.
Goldeneye with Mario characters is actually a really well done mod. I played through it on my everdrive!
Is it with Pierce Brosnan??
@@CiroDiMarzio909 Mario Brosnan
@Nothin 🤣🤣
@@CiroDiMarzio909 i played it with Pierce Brosnan he is my dad
@@KuuchWizard no he isn't shut up
Mario and Goldeneye; not the crossover we wanted. But is the crossover we needed and deserved.
These things are great considering the absolute nonsense prices of the retro market these days. I used to be a bit of a snob but I couldn’t give a damn about authenticity anymore.
Yeah same. Got Mario Party 1, 2 ,& 3 repros for a total of less than $25. My local game store sells the authentic carts for $60+
I have some gbc games lmao
Pipfall, Tetris, all Mario games and all Pokémon games
I kept them since i was a child i never knew people want to buy them lmao
I will probably sell them now
@@Matanumi there's one last Game Crazy in Salem Oregon my sister visited recently. They charged nearly $100 for a copy of Pokemon: Gale of Darkness. I bought it on ebay for $30.
I agree . I don’t even care lol . If it works , plays the same and saves then I’m fine with it
@@Matanumi probably the type of person to say supply and demand isn't real
You made me remember the R4 card. I used to use that R4 card for my DS lite back in the day. So many memories!!
Is the R4 card a specific brand or just a generic name like flash cart? If the latter, any particular company I should get one from?
@@scottthewaterwarrior The former.
@@Matanumi bro
they still sell R4 super cheap and can take 32gb and larger i believe
p.s these CAN'T be R4 as they haven't (from what i heard) haven't been able to hack 3ds i've asked on reddit R4 3ds aren't the same as jailbroken cfw 3ds and only redressed as the OLD ds hacks it CAN'T play 3ds games
@@VTuber_Central Well the R4 cards are DS carts so why would anyone be expecting them to play 3DS games?
A lot of the knock of Pokémon games seem to work perfectly until later in the game where they corrupt. I legit got to the champion on my fake copy of emerald and it corrupted just before the fight.
Yeah that version of soul silver. You can’t go into the casino. I learned that the hard way
@@wldhrt7 same! i was kinda bummed about it too :(
You didn't buy the "Fuck You" DLC
I got on Etsy some enhanced GBA games of Doom and Doom 2, running at a better framerate and unedited. I’m actually very happy with it! It also has the normal color palette so it looks amazing on the Analogue NT.
yeah, I am also of the opinion that repro cartridges on retro systems for rare or digital-only games are a good thing. I actually love that BS Zelda cart. I am definitely against things that pass off as legitimate for a quick buck.
Ngl that BS cart looked amazing. I actually want it just to collect it lol
5:39 legit laughed out loud at the back cover - what a bargain for FIVE HUNDRED GAMES!
Quick note on the 500-in-1 DS cart: it likely comes in that small case because the build quality of the casing itself. I nabbed one a while ago and stuck it in the case. It went in fine, but it split in two when I tried pulling it out.
Nothing too bad (they pop open and shut) but it does sort of explain the clasping case.
It always works for years and can save game
I only got the 256 in 1 and it's been fine for me. I also switched out the microSD for a larger capacity microSD I had around. Been tempted to throw a romhack or two on it.
I bought one of those a while ago and I absolutely adore it (I deleted most of the premade roms and downloaded new ones, including a bunch of rom hacks, and got to replay Explorers of Sky without having to delete my childhood save! :’]) but I can definitely agree that the quality of the cart itself is low. It’s held for a while, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it fell apart someday haha
Hope everyone is having a good weekend
What an amazing thing to collect! I love unique things like this. A boxed copy of Mario in Goldeneye would be a great conversation piece.
6:10 “it almost feels like a waste of plastic” -referring to the case or whatever you wanna call it that is the perfect size for the ds cartridge and NOT to the default box that is at least 20x the size.
Ah yes, such a waste…
That Zelda BS-X looks fascinating... I have a hard time going back to the NES version due to its graphics but the SNES sprites of Zelda 1-esque is great
i love going back and playing nes classics though like kirbys adventure.
What are talking about.. that's what makes it great is the old graphics! It different for the folks that were born before it came out.
The problem with repro Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal, and probably Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald is that the real carts have a RTC and the repros do not. The game won’t crash or anything, but the clock will not tick. For RSE, that means no berry growth and not much else. For GSC, it locks out all of the time of day features and day of the week features.
Lol a lot of fun trying to get to the bug catching contest, that's for sure.
The clock would glitch around randomly with mine. When I beat the elite 4 it would go threw the credits and restart me at my last save :/
Honestly, if i wanna play a game on NDS, i rather pay a 15 $ reproduction copy instead of a overpriced og copy
Or just get a R4
So from this I learned that Nintendo pioneered online functionality, streaming, and live service gaming... all in the mid-90s
Check out 'The Sega Channel' from the 90's.
Yes. Then gave it all away by enraging Sony.
@@jemiebridges3197 what do you mean?
@@John-Doe-Yo they were making the Nintendo CD drive it was supposed to be made by Sony but they went with Philips instead so Sony released the ps1
Actually sega did it first with the sega channel service which came out before the satellaview
The actual cartridge for HGSS is black because it features infrared. Therefore the gray cartridge is a red flag too
If the game is more than 100 bucks, I'm getting a repro cart. Period. I'm not a collector, I don't like the hoarder/scalper mentality, and I just want to play on original hardware.
Hard agree, but also definitely like the route of flash carts. Both the physical feel and convenience of roms. But would buy reasonable repros of my favourites!
True, especially for systems like Neo Geo. Even MVS carts have become ridiculous since covid, but then again, those nice, chungus carts are part of what's so satisfying about the system! Especially when there's some really great repros out there. Most of the time, like for NES, SNES, Sega Master system or Genesis, I'll get originals because the overwhelming majority of the games aren't crazy expensive. If it is, I'd rather have a repro, as long as the seller has good feedback, isn't using 3.3v chips without proper converter/buffer chips (like a lot of early all in one room carts for a lot of systems), etc.
This takes me back to when I used to buy burnt games for my PS2. At that time, I couldn't afford games at retail price and my parents were working to make ends meet not really much left over for luxury.
So $5.00 for a burnt PS2 game that was the jam, through that I was able to experience and open my perspectives to new games that I would have never been able to play and quite frankly known about.
Years later, thankfully my situation has changed, and I'm fortunate now where I am able to purchase games at retail.
I am more willing to go to franchises such as Metal Gear, Yakuza, Ratchet & Clank etc. because of the exposure I had back years ago thanks to burnt games.
There will always be a market for reproductions or fakes, because everyone's situation is always different
Well said, when we got used PS1 in 2003 almost every game I had was cd copy. Only original game I had was some EA Sports boxing title. We didn't have any money for games, everyone copied them where I lived. Not to mention that copyright law in Poland didn't really exist in late 90s/00s.
I know how it is! Burned copies or reproduction cartrigdes can really help when you're in a less fortunate time in your life. Now I can pay the full price, I obviously do!
dude, you could save some money, buy a hard drive, upload a bunch of ROMs on it, and play this way. the original fat PS2 supports this kind of thing.
my friends who don't want the laser to break, use this method.
@@teacherfromthejungles6671 It wasn't an option back then. Now, sure. This method is way better than wearing down your old laser, it's also faster and more convenient, but still costs more than burning a few cds/dvds if you only want to play one or two games a month.
@@teacherfromthejungles6671 haha my slim PS2 goes no HDD for you
Heck yeah let's do a satellaview teardown! Always been curious what's inside them.
Mario in Goldeneye..
My Life is *COMPLETE!* 😅
I used to work in the Entertainment sections of an electronics store. I remember vividly the amount of people coming up to me each day asking where the "little cards where you can load up all the DS games" were. I always responded with "We don't sell them, we sell the actual games". Imagine the confusion on some people's faces when you tell them you don't sell the illegal thing.
What shithole do you live in that these carts are illegal lmao
Sometimes these are worth it. I bought a copy WWF No Mercy for N64 that has a micro SD save instead of battery based. That game had a notorious "erase all your progress" issue and if anyone old enough remembers how long it took to unlock things, it was $ well spent .... The Smackdown Mall was not cheap!
I bought my pokemon crystal repro like a year ago, it still works perfectly fine, the time just advances while you play, it doesn't track your time in real time, but it's not important, the game is perfectly playable as is
I could live with that compromise, I just wouldn't like it as much as the eshop version since that is still able to to track time while it's not running.
I have that 500 in 1 games cartridge. Only annoying thing about it is you have to manually scroll the games list. Very convenient to have, considering you don't have to carry a bunch of games at once.
I have every pokemon repro and the ds ones have been fine for save corrupting, but the gameboy ones are pretty faulty when it comes to corrupting and a few of them didn't even work out of box :p the gba ones are also pretty functional no issues so far. The multicart is phenomenal also you can swap out roms as you choose and no saving issues or anything
lmao, when I saw Link's sprite wearing a baseball cap in the fake version of the first NES Zelda, I immediately heard "IT'S THE LEGEND OF ZELDA AND IT'S REALLY RAD ... " in my head
That Zelda game looks sick, how did I not know about this before? Going to have to find some of these.
It's called BS Zelda no densetsu or Legend of Zelda Third Quest.... It's a remake from Japan, and done in 16 bit!
@@draynged7869 Thanks! Definitely looks worth checking out.
Those reproductive Soul Silver and Heart Gold cartridges won't let you play the pokemon casino games.
U know it's a good day when it starts with spawn wave 💯
That Mario Goldeneye is epic 😂🤣
HGSS was always expensive. I remember buying it in high school (~2015/2016) and it was selling ~$60 used, compared to DPPt which was usually around $30-$35.
That satellaview cartridge is really cool because even until really recently emulating the Satellaview system was pretty difficult, a repro cart like that is still probably the easiest way to play it
The other thing is that that character select menu is custom, with a real BS-X there was a bios styled like Earthbound where you would create a character and profile to be used in the broadcast games that supported it
It would be pretty cool if there were hacks for the N64 increasing framerate using the expansion pack, something similar to the hacks used in SNES games to utilize the SA1 chip for games like Gradius III.
I found the goldeneye with mario characters about a year ago, it is absolutely hilarious to play. Was even able to get a crew for multiplayer and beers for a couch co-op night. If you were ever a fan of goldeneye it is both nostalgic and side splitting funny.
Thanks for this. More repro and romhack carts, please!
I bought an Ocarina of Time Master Quest reproduction cart for N64. They had just exported the rom off of the GameCube disc and put it on a cartridge.
Unfortunately, it hit the anti-piracy measures and I couldn’t catch any fish. I didn’t play it to the end, but I’ve heard that the doors Zelda opens in Ganon’s Castle at the end don’t open on reproduction carts. I’m sad they didn’t account for this in the cartridge, but I’m not surprised.
Honestly with the price of the retro market repo games are a good way to go. I actually went ahead and got myself an ezflash cart and a ds flash cart because the prices have turned to ridiculous levels. Even for just the cases with no manuals, heck even the manuals alone. No thanks. I will say the carts are nice because you can play them on their OG hardware which I found out was the experience I enjoy best.
You. You get it. I keep being told to just emulate. I don't enjoy gaming on a computer. I'd rather play on the hardware the game is meant for. I'd rather the authentic experience. Unfortunately there are some games that are way too expensive so I've resigned that the only way I'm playing them is through emulation. For example Tail Concerto. I had the demo disc at some point and have wanted the full game. I am not willing to pay $300+ for an english copy of it. I can get the japanese copy for around $30 but that doesn't help me since it's region locked and I don't have a japanese console nor do I speak it. My only option is emulation. I hate that I have to do that because of stupid collectors.
@@ZombifiedBuizel its so crappy isn't it? I used to emulate every once in awhile but would always stop in a few days and I couldn't understand why. Getting the flash carts helped a lot and at least nowadays we have ways of modding consoles to have them run from memory cards/microsds if we need to emulate. Its all just a shame.
@@KoalaBeAsh Absolutely horrendus. I'm thankful Nintendo did that console emulation on the Switch. I would never have gotten to play Earthbound and Super Metroid otherwise unless I emulated on a pc. I'm also thankful of remasters and remakes.
Ok, the Mario Goldeneye one is actually great. lol
If the genuine games weren't sooo expensive I would buy them, but because their not I will get the repo games. And yes I do feel bad about doing it but Nintendo & others needs to know, Money doesn't grow on trees
It’s the “gamers” buying them for ridiculous prices is the issue not Nintendo. People are just not wise with their money.
@@DjCrispyFingers supply and demand buddy boy.
@@thefadedone8192 Oh yeah, I'm sure the average Joe is totally willing to pay $100+ for a game they may or may not like.
@@DjCrispyFingers the average Joe pays alot of money for ps5/xbox/pc games so I dont see why not. A small fee to pay to have something FOREVER.
@@thefadedone8192 But you don’t have it forever. Cartridges go bad and discs have disc rot so you paying $100+ for a game is just stupid when you know about these kinds of things. I have a personal rule where I can only pay $50 max for a game so if something does happen to it I won’t be as bummed.
A lot of fakes are easy to spot if you know what to look for, but easiest way is to see the circuit board, a lot of auctions include a picture of the board now. I always take the carts apart when they arrive to make sure the board is real, and to clean it and replace the save battery.
I am someone who greatly prefers the original copies, but for a long time I couldn't afford soul silver so I had to buy a fake on eBay. It worked perfectly well and saved just fine. If the company's deny us legal or authentic ways of playing there games then it's their fault
It's also because of artificial inflation caused by hoarders who think they need more than 2 copies of a game. 1 for playing and 1 for collecting.I know a few people locally who have their hearts set on getting every copy (or so it seems) of a certain franchise which is pretty sickening to the retro collecting community. Then you have reseller's who buy many copies of some games at really good prices (thrifting for an example) just to turn around and gouge their next buyers.
One of the bigger giveaways with HG/SS and Black and White 1/2 the legit carts are red when held up to the light
I like these kinda videos. It's cool seeing items I wouldn't have known about otherwise.
Shout out to and RIP to my Caucasian brother/classmate/A1D1 US Army SPC Marvin K. Scott, for putting a young gangsta onto PKMN Black, during my youth.
"For England, James?"
"No. For-a-meeee, Mario!"
These get bought from people like me. We want retro, we don't have time to build our own MistR emulators, or we can't get RetroArch to work. We get fed up and just want to play our oldschool games and give in to these fake games. I don't.. when I say people like me, I mean that I get fed up too. I just wont go as far as to buy the false stuff. I just empathize with those that do.
Love the Sunday series!!!
Think Mario on the GoldenEye cartridge needs to eat more cake lol
When I was a kid, my mom bought one of those "150 GBA games in 1" sorta deal on a marketplace but instead of a scam, it turned out to be a flashcart with the proper cords, CDs and everything, as well as a written tutorial on where and how to safely download ROMs, and how to use the flashcart's software to install 'em. That was my surprisingly wholesome introduction to flashcarts, and emulation in general, so I like exploring those fake "x in 1" cartridges, just to see what fun shenanigans they pull off
the problem with the pokemon crystal game is that it uses more of a "Save State" like an emulator, so if you leave the game off for a day or two time won't advance at all.
This is awesome. First time on your channel. I’m amazed by the creators of these reproductions.
That SoulSilver was SUPER high quality, as it even had the small dot in the top corner of the back which is notoriously hard to clone.
It also appears the Crystal was using a GBA Board maybe?
This guys weird sweaty chuckle whenever he’s like appalled or disgusted irks me in ways I thought impossible. “You see that glob on the card.. ehheh.” You’d think he was trying to grab the attention from the lady who cut him off in line at the supermarket. “Eheh.. heheh.”
Mario's arm looks like a drainpipe, lol.
I love these videos of yours buying fake stuff online
You beat me to saying "hitboxes" when you were sniping lol. Glad you considered it
That n64 cartrige must have been the wet dream of every newgrounds mario flash game maker in 2005.
I love BS-Legend Of Zelda, 3 different characters and new dungeons.
remember pokemon fired red
5:34 i have a lot of nostalgia with 500 in 1 cartriges, they are actually very fun and good for kids that are gonna constantly ask for new games
The Mario goldeneye is so beautiful. I love it
The Mario Goldeneye is genius.
Came for Mario 007, stayed for Satellaview Zelda
So in long story short, taking a chance on fake games is totally worth it
Wait. That Mario goldeneye is hysterical!
I wish nintendo would re-release games just with the subtitle "with Mario characters"
Can't believe you never finished Zelda. You should definitely go for it. I remember back in the day explaining over dinner to my Mom that I finished it that afternoon. She had no idea what I was talking about but I was hyped!
"Fake" fully working games at a fraction of the price. Sounds good.
That broadcast thing sounds like the old Sega Channel from back in the day. We didn't have it, but my aunt did, so my brother and I would go over and play the games they had on at the time. It was awesome. Probable slow as death, but it was mind blowing for us...
So some things I've learned buying older Pokemon games. Before you go searching, focus on a specific copy and make sure to learn how to tell a real from a fake by looks (plenty of articles to check.) Next is to focus on more expensive ones. From my experience, most will be $70-$120 with most genuine copies typically being $90+ so it's not likely for super cheap copies. Then of course, always stay close to ones that have pictures of the cartridge. With a game like the gen 5 Pokemon games, they'll have infrared so if you find a seller that holds the cartridge up to the light and you see a reddish, purple-ish hue, then that is a genuine copy. Another is to make sure the pictures are clear. If something is a bit blurry and you think it might say something accurate, I find it better to cut your losses and move on.
So far I've gotten a genuine Heart Gold copy, a genuine Sapphire copy, a genuine New Leaf copy, and a genuine White 2 copy from eBay sellers. It really is all about looking for it and examining. Deals will come and go and it's often better to look when you know you can afford it and to be prepared for higher prices. It doesn't take too much of a keen eye as long as you know what they look like. It typically will be better if there are more pictures and especially with DS games, you'll want to see the back of it so you can compare the letters to the ones on the front cause that'll instantly tell you if it's real or fake. The four letters on the back and front should match because those are unique to that game title specifically so if the back is different, it means it's fake cause that cartridge held another game and is dumped onto it basically (sorry if my lingo isn't exactly correct, I know my stuff but not the specific words.) I've had a Heart Gold fake copy before from an American seller that was expensive, but still a fair price and the games look very different. Also the colors on the front picture tend to be muted or different in a way that they don't really match up.
Either way, do your research and look at sellers that give a few pictures. The ones I've bought from typically show 3-5 pics of the cartridge for proof. You can find genuine copies fairly easily, but you gotta be able to know. And if it seems too good to be true, it often is. I also find pricing to be a bit better on eBay for genuine copies than Amazon and it's much easier for me personally to use eBay due to how the site is set up so I typically do my shopping there.
And most of all, checking local retro stores or second hand shops can be wonderful. I'm lucky that I have one around here with several items from cards to stuffed animals to books to movies to games, etc. but I know not everyone has easy access to a place like that. So if you can access a place like that, it's much better to try there every so often since you can check em out in person.
So this is just a bit of a guide to spotting Pokemon games. Those are the ones I buy since I didn't get into Pokemon till I was 15 with Pokemon Black before the prices jacked up for them (around the release of USUM.) I never got to experience most Pokemon games so I'm trying to get one version from each gen or pairing to really try it. Gen 3 games were the last ones I needed so with Leaf Green, I have officially played one game from every generation pairing or trio of mainline Pokemon games. But anyway, don't give up hope if you can't find a game or you got a fake copy. I thought I'd never get Heart Gold and now I have as well as many more games I thought to be impossible to get my hands on a genuine copy of. There's always someone out there selling it and so good luck hunting for those that want em :) /gen /srs
Edit: Nothing wrong with non-authentic copies if they work fine. I just know with Pokemon games, they'll be less likely to work and will glitch out. My Heart Gold copy couldn't play the Voltorb flip game, completely glitched out, deleted my data, and could no longer save so at least for Pokemon games, genuine is better. But that is the only knowledge I have of fake vs real games and so as long as the game plays as intended and there's no issues, it's not my problem. I don't know everything about game reproduction or anything else so this is just from my experience and knowledge with buying older Pokemon games.
would some of these just be considered ROMhacks?
Nothing is more terrifying than koopa with a ak47
Reporudction carts are amazing. Ive been playing through a ton of games on my analogue pocket and saves have been working great.
I can justify the outrageous pricing for alot of classic gameboy advance games. Reporudction carts are really good nowadays.
"You were never really into Zelda?" ...... this my friend is extremely sad to hear and I don't you comprehend or will ever know the true scope or impact of this tragedy and loss. Which, is probably a good thing. I'm 54 nearly and back in the 86 when the NES launched, I was 15 or 16 and I had to save my ass off to come up with the $79 dollars. Zelda was amazing. So was Metroid when it came out, Zelda 2 as well.
you could tell when he was impressed with the cartridge being gold like in color >_< uhh yeah that is kinda a Zelda staple....
“SpongeBob Atlantis Squarepantis”. Did I read that right? Lol
Wow a BSX unit vid would be amazing, and quality made repro’s have sure come a long way. Super interesting
Do you not have any capture cards for devices? Filming the screens is a bit odd
I own countless cartridges. I have every snes, nes, 64, DS, and Genesis game on 5 cartridges. I have a ton of repro cartridges and all of them work flawlessly.
The whole satellaview thing reminds me of the sega channel. it was mindblowing for the time. It was done thru ur cable, not thru a satellite, tbh a sattelite seems way overcomplicated for something like this.
sweet content Spawn Wave. I crushed the thumbs up on your video. Continue to keep up the outstanding work.
Be careful buying fake games. I bought "Adventure Island IV" for the NES from eBay. It was cool to see it work, and it was doing fine at the start but shortly after finding a mini game the controls did not work. I was so disappointed.
Fun fact: "Adventure Island IV" was the last title made for the Famicom.
I used to sell assembled/soldered DIP-to-TSOP boards with flash memory chips for SNES carts on eBay. Basically the usual conversion PCB with a chip large enough for most games. Barring a few specific games (Star Ocean, Super-FX games) this chip was basically a slot-in replacement for the original mask ROMs. I undercut the Chinese sellers by a few dollars, offered free chip programming services (and basic testing for romhacks and such) and had my material pipeline set up perfectly to get the right chips in bulk. I still made a fair margin of like 50% on these ROM boards. Though the income was nice, I mostly did this for therapeutic reasons. I know that may sound weird, but I got the process down to where I would complete a board every 10 minutes or so. I would use my binocular microscope and well established routine to very neatly solder the TSOP chip (which is not all that hard even by hand, just tack one corner and then either drag solder them or do pin-by-pin) and DIP legs. After soldering, testing (first continuity, then in a SNES), programming and cleaning I had very professional, lovely looking boards.
Actually started out seriously soldering for practical reasons, wanting to play some translation hacks on the SNES. I did of course also try some of the older EEPROMs, but the problem with those is that I could only get them used, and also erasing them was a pain (with UV and such). I discovered one of these DIP-to-TSOP boards and eventually I modded some shitty soccer game into a test cart with a ZIF slot. I also did do some more challenging ROM replacements for Star Ocean and Mario RPG, those had odd ROM chips and the best fit replacement was one with a slightly different pin-out and a different operation voltage. Those mods were fun and really helped me practice.
I usually sold these in low volume to individual modders who wanted to play romhacks and such but did not want to invest into an Everdrive - or - soldering equipment, programmer and chips to mess up. It was a small side hustle, and it was mostly therapeutic like I said. Something about soldering these small chips just felt relaxing to me. Honestly, if you're gonna do batches of repro carts, you might as well just forego the conversion boards and EEPROMs and just use a modern TSOP chip directly. I believe some of them have serial programming, or you could even do it via the cartridge edge or before you solder the TSOP. For personal use, it beats paying for an Everdrive if you already have the gear, but still, just get an Everdrive haha.
Mario golden eye was the best one lmao
If someone wants to genuinely just play the game get the fake cartridge all day but a collector needs to know the information you have thanks for the content
Another great video spawn wave, really do enjoy these fake, knock off games that you do..
I think I previously bought that counterfeit SoulSilver, and it was alright, but unfortunately the Game Corner was impossible to use. Every time, the game froze and I had to close and re-open it. I never finished it, but I would assume the game works otherwise even up to the Champion's screen and Kanto.
Ahh the classic fire extinguisher sniper rifle :) GG Goldeneye. You actually did pretty well, the last time my buddy and I tried to play Goldeneye like 10 years ago, we found ourselves wondering how we used to actually play it, and why or how it was even fun. It was all we had back then though. Loved Paintball mode and how it would "realistic" bullet hole marks on the walls and doors and stuff.
The multi cart works pretty well. I got one for my grandkids to play on DS.
I loved the presentation of that Super nintendo cart. That's not bad.
Some things I don't like about the counterfeit games is the issue where sometimes you can't trade to a legit copy of the game. Makes me think that transfer pak functionality just won't be there for that counterfeit crystal.
As someone who has very little knowledge on R4 carts and who doesn't have a PC at the moment, I really enjoy the rom cart that I got. It's nice to just have them preloaded on there.
More of these types of vids please!
Always love the tech wave videos
Those 1,000 games + systems are just out there.