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How To Bunch For A Shovel Tutorial - First Find A Beautiful Piece Of Oregon Timber Land Like This...
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2022
- We had a comment from @Nuts319 a while back asking about the difference between cutting for a shovel and cutting for a yarder. This seemed like a perfect unit to talk about some of the techniques I use cutting shovel ground to make it more efficient and productive for myself and the shovel operator following me. As is often the case, there are a lot of points I didn't think of during the video to mention, but I did hit most of the ones I think are important. Thanks to Nut319 for the suggestion, and to you for your interest in watching. We appreciate comments and questions, so if something comes to mind, please send it our way. Be safe!
I love your videos. They have helped me learn more and become a better Opperator and logger. Thanks for posting.
Right on! I'm glad to hear that you're getting something out of them. I think that one of the real upsides to getting older is not having to make the same mistakes over. If I can help someone not make them at all, well then, we're all better off! I appreciate you letting us know and for your continued interest! Good cuttin to ya! Be safe.
Really enjoy you videos!
Glad to hear it. Plenty more to come, thanks for watching!
One thing I love about logging is there’s endless things to learn and improve on. Great video buddy
Isn't that the truth! Some of the lessons good, others not so fun. Hey, thanks for the suggestion, I cut a little yarder patch here recently so we'll get a video together talking some about cutting for a yarder and the differences. Good cutting to ya!
The only thing I hate about your videos is when you stop them, Man I could sit and watch you cut all day long you are by far the smoothness and fastness operator on a track bunched that I have ever seen in my life and I am 64 years old and have logged since I was 10 years old so anyway sir another great video and tell your wife thank you for the music that she puts in the background it just goes right along with your cutting
Well thank you sir, glad that you get such a kick out of them. The credit really goes to my wife, she does the hard work wading through all the hours of footage and putting together something worth watching. Glad you like the music too, I do as well, like you say, goes with the video. Thanks again for the comment and for watching, we appreciate it!
Gravy train with biscuit wheels right there, would love to cut units like that!
Love the channel, great content and narration!
Wasn't it a beauty? Kinda hated to get it done. Where abouts in the world are you working? Appreciate your comment and thanks for watching, good cutting to ya!
I love running buncher. Took the skidder out for several hitches the other day, remembered how much I don't enjoy driving a skidder.
Me either old-timer them young boys can have them skidders. Lmaoooo
We run 648e models from the early 90’s. I cut with a 95 643d feller buncher. I cut really low stumps so they don’t beat me to death while I’m skidding. The only downside is hitting rocks.
Copy that. But it is kinda fun to pick up your own wood isn't it? A long time ago my partner and I bought a sale in the White Mountain National Forest. It was a big bite to chew for us, I can remember cutting all day and after the crew went home I'd switch over to my old faithful 640D and skid until I built up a big surge deck, it was hella long skidding. And then drive home for 2 hours! Yup, logging, you have to love it! Thanks for the comment, be safe.
@the daily logger
Hey, I didn't know you worked here in NH/Maine?
When, where?
@@oldtimerf7602 Yes, I was based in Central Vermont in the 80's and 90's. Just like you probably, we worked all over, mostly Vt and NH, but we got up into Maine a few times and over to upstate NY too if I remember right. Long time ago. That White Mt sale was tough at first for us but we ended up doing really well on it. At that time it was the first sale sold to an actual logging outfit. It seems like after my partner and I sold, things deteriorated, Berlin shut down and FERC put the squeeze on the power plants, sounded tough. I had a good run though, learned a lot and made good money! Thanks for the question, hope your winter is going well! Be safe
HD video quality!! nice job, you are going to gain traction quickly in this online timber community. Thanks for uploading, from BC, canada
Thanks! Appreciate the comment. We're stepping up on the tech as we go. Thanks for watching and the continued interest.
That reminds me of The Loblolly Pines I was cutting behind our shop this past fall. We bought some land that joins us a few years back that used to be a row crop farm that was abandoned 50+ years ago. It had grown up in some big, tall pallet grade pine trees. It was some of the flattest ground we have cut aside from the grey land swamps we cut.
Copy. It is fun cutting on easy ground for sure. It seems like 50 year old wood was probably pretty good size too. It's funny to say but I don't like really big wood, it's hard to cut, hard to save and is tough to log and process, but 24 inch average? Let me get to it! Thanks for the comment.
That looks good Jason, I bet like anything even perfect ground gets old after awhile
Copy that! But like I said, I sure would like to find out, right? Good to hear form you, be safe!
@@thedailylogger 10-4!
@@woos31 Copy!
That is nice cutting ! I agree about the cutting, swinging, release motion. When you get into that groove it is very enjoyable and productive too. The accumulation really interests me probably due to my inexperience and it seems being able to plan ahead which particular tree/trees you are aiming for in the next cycle is key. Great video as always. Thanks.
It really doesn't get much better than that unit for sure. It's funny about accumulation, I find that two stems is a poor combination, three is better and if your in really small wood four and up hold together really well. But then again it's junk at that point unless your chipping. I've got a question for you, have you had to replace your tilt motor lines, stick to head? I just put a new set on today, they wear below the #12 ORS fitting at the bottom of the head rotek. They bend hard there and wear out, start to weep. I've tried longer hoses, now I'm wondering if I need to try to shorten them up. Just curious if you have had the same issue on your LX870D. I'm going to try to remember to measure them on a new machine at the show in Eugene. Always good to hear from you, be safe!
@@thedailylogger I have had to replace one of those hoses. I wondered if 30 degree fitting would help ?
@@stevewooff5982 I was thinking along the same lines. The bulkhead adapter comes out at a 45 degree angle to the tower so a 22.5 or 30 would help the radius out when the head is tipped fully forward but seems like the fitting itself might be subject to a lot of stress when the head is pulled back tight to the stick. I'll see how this set holds up, I added a little length to them. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@thedailylogger be interested to get the length off a new machine. You might even see they changed something. Don’t think I’ll be at the show. Have a great week !
@@stevewooff5982 I'm looking forward to seeing any changes they've come up with for sure. The new set that's a little longer looks good so far. Thanks for the info, talk with you later!
Great video and commentary. I ,as well have ran Hotsaw. Great operator, smooth,not a lot of tracking, blissful day in the woods. Don’t get real dirty,got your windows clean, only way better is if it’s payday! Well don’t let your meat loaf,👍
Hey, Thank you. That was a creamy unit for sure. Uniform stands like that on good ground can make anyone look good! Are you still running Buncher? What part of the world are you in? Thanks for the comments and for watching, we appreciate it! Be safe!
After 35 yrs. I gave it up,joined the local 3 operator engineer union. I’m in Redding,Ca.
@@garybailey8218 Copy! That's a good run, my hats off to ya! I'm afraid after all these years I've still got a logging problem, I love running Buncher, even when its tough! I'd be interested to hear all the different machines you've run, and what you thought of them. I have to say, this LX870D is the best Buncher I've run, it's a thing of beauty. It really stays cool too, something I'm sure you can appreciate down there in Redding during the summer. Thanks for the info, good talking with you!
No underbrush. No rocks. Gentle ground. That's a nice day
Oh man it just doesn't get much better. I'm interested in seeing the load report after it all gets shipped, fun to see what it came up too. Good wood is just a pleasure to work with. Thanks!
@@thedailylogger I watched the video a second time and caught the hour and tree count. It always impresses me the volume per acre of smaller tall and dense timber.
@@davidgibbons5366 Absolutely. Give me small, thick and tall any time! I am interested in seeing the final load count when the dust settles out, always kinda fun to see how I did. I have a button set up so I can manually count merch stems, the machine counts automatically too but it is accumulator cycles and I do so much non cutting that it's non representative. That count is up to about 1.7 million cycles, on original cylinders! My best day so far has been 4069 merch stems in a 12 hour shift, again, Buncher candy. Burned 117 gallons of fuel and 11.5 gallons of DEF. Then the other day I was on yarder ground and got 569 in 7.7 hrs. I guess it all averages out! Always good to hear from you, thanks.
@@thedailylogger Interesting numbers. I have a firewood processor I bought new in 2007. Has 6000 hrs on it now and I would estimate has processed around 15 000 full cord. Every component has cycled approximately 2 million times... including my shoulders, elbows, wrists and hands!
@@davidgibbons5366 Cool. You take good care of it. I can't remember the details but I read somewhere that if your feet were hammers they would literally wear out some number of times from the impact of walking. Pretty amazing.
Happy new year 2024
Thanks, same to you!
Great video. What does the combo of you and that tigercat get for production in a day?
Good question. It really all depends on all the things that go along with it. A good safe average is 25 loads a day. This gravy patch I was cutting in this video looks as though it will go well over 300 thousand, or better than twice that daily average. But it was as easy as it gets! But wet weather or dry, good wood or garbage, tough ground or easy- I think about 25 a day is a good conservative rule of thumb. Most of the credit goes to the machine I have to say, it's the best Buncher I have ever run! Thanks for the question, be safe!
I'm cutting on steep ground with a rubber tire start at the top and slide to the bottom
You guys on rubber impress me. I think I'd be rolling her over at least once a day. Have you ever ran chains on your Buncher? What part of the world are you logging in? Thanks for watching and the comment, be safe!
@@thedailylogger what I'm cutting now shouldn't even have a rubber tire on it I'll try to upload a video
@@marshallsrcrain1871 Man, I hear you there. When you feel like Captain Kirk, "going where no man has ever gone before....". And I'm thinking to myself at the time, yeah and I don't want to be here either! Be safe out there brother!
Would love to have a timbco
Copy that. Once you level you never look back! Good cutting to ya!
I just cut 2 million feet like that with my dangle now I have about 2 million to cut on about 30+ degree slope... I guess it keeps it interesting
Copy. Sounds like you are having good luck with your new machine, glad to hear it. I ran a CAT Buncher for a bit with a Hultdins felling head, I was in blowdown primarily so didn't get to cut much standing timber. I'd like to, seems like it's a nice motion of falling. Good to hear from you, good cuttin to ya!