PATH of EXILE: A New Era of Trading - PoB Now Finds Items to Increase Your Build's DPS For You
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Path of Building can now calculate the weightings of every possible affix and create a trade search you can use to find a perfect DPS upgrade within any budget for your build. Need a new ring under 20 chaos that will give you a 5-10% DPS increase? If it exists on the market this tool will help you find it better than you ever could. Is this too much power?
In order to use this feature you must download Path of Building: pathofbuilding.community/
Import your character, select your damage dealing skill and setup your configuration to calculate your DPS.
Then click "Trade for these items" button above gear and input your PoE session ID (in Chrome, login to PoE site and press f12 and go to: i.imgur.com/YfEK4Ky.png )
Note: sharing your poesessionid is inherently risky as it's access to your account, while PoB is well-trusted share at your own risk.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro: How We Find Gear Upgrades
0:56 - How Path of Building Has Made us Stronger
1:37 - What PoB's New Feature Does
2:42 - Setup
3:12 - How to Use PoB's New Item Search
4:02 - Enabling a Budget Limit
4:14 - How to Futher Refine Your Search
5:47 - Sorting the Results & Choosing Your Upgrade
6:44 - Rambling About How Powerful this Is
8:11 - How to Simulate The Item in Your Build
8:56 - Another Example: Finding Jewel Upgrades
10:25 - Limitations & Things to Look out For
11:28 - Back to Finding a Jewel
12:13 - What this is Best For
13:06 - Final Thoughts, Thanks for Watching - Ігри
The author of the tool made a post with some helpful extra tips! Check it out here: www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/zl18nn/how_to_get_the_most_out_of_pobs_new_find_dps/
They note that it doesn't currently work for weapons as the API cannot weight weapon bases properly. Also some builds like DoT/Ailment and minions might have some difficulties. Mostly, if PoB can show you total DPS properly then it should work.
Any idea how to make it work with private leagues?
Hey, Ziggy, much as I appreciate this tool, there was a PSA post, I beleive from GGG earlier that sharing your POESESSID could lead to others having access to your account. This feels pretty relevant, and should probably be appended somewhere.
I hope there will be a change made to be able to use the tool without opening yourself up to such a vulnerability.
Second the notion that you should perhaps put up a 2 minute video explaining the POESESSID and if it's safe to use with Path of Building Community Fork.
well its too hard to get my poe sessid whatever it is for even beigng able to use that tool seems nice tho
Can't wait for PoB to start writing lootfilters on the fly based on what's good for your build at the time
Lootfilters don't actually need to be tuned to your needs. You're likely better off having them show you what sells well in the current market (hence why neversink has his filters updated every 4 hours). It is usually more efficient to sell what you get and buy what you need instead of trying to find/craft your next upgrade yourself.
Can't wait for PoB to play the game for me and i can opt in and out when i feel like it. Skip the bad times and only come for the good.
That would be dope. There are existing things that try to do something like this, but not well
@@Zevrael SSF
@@hanlosingit Restricting yourself in SSF to exactly one build makes it terrible to play the game.
I don't think you can overstate just how strong this tool is. Picked up about 60% more dps without losing defenses all for less time and currency than it would have taken me to find 20% more dps. Unbelievable.
how did you go about making sure you don't lose defenses, did you add +HP/res to the searches? Or just lucked out?
Which is why GGG will probably have to address it.
If you picked up 60% more dps that just means you have no idea how to scale your builds damage, the tool is incredibly innacurate as if you are for instance playing a poison build it will find items that scale your hit damage rather than poison damage
@@EjDantes Lol what can they do to address this, only thing they could do is just make it more inconvenient to get you character set up in pob or just gut the tradesite filter options. All of which would be probably hated by the majority of the community.
tool is alright, gave me like 10% more DPS while severely sacrificing defenses. but I will say, it was very cheap
If you're missing POESESSIONID like I was, then while you have PoE trade open hit F12 to open up the console for your browser, then switch to the Storage tab, select Cookies and your POESESSIONID should now be visible. Simply copy and paste it from there to POB.
Im using brave and im not seeing this option, any ideas?
Poesessid still invalid even after reset. Thoughts?
Having the same issue saying POESESSID is Invalid. Have relogged on the website, ingame, and restarted PoB
Invalid ID for me too :/
@@MirraZK did you import your build to a brand new file? I had to completely make a new pob for it to work.
I've been using PoE Item Tester macro my whole PoE career and seeing that it's now baseline in PoB warms my heart
Do you want to go to a play tonight ?
@@randomdudehereandthere2445 would anyone like some soup?
This is really a minor nitpick but when you go to read how much that ring changed your DPS at ~8:30, you were reading the wrong panel. The 11.7% was for if you equipped it in slot 1 and replaced the ring that was already there. Placing it in slot 2 is actually a 15.9% DPS increase over empty and a 15.4% increase over your old ring.
Also, you can check how it compares to both rings when you first paste the item into POB before even adding it to your build.
Ah whoops thanks for the correction! Yeah right side is ring 1 and below is ring 2 for those who are still wondering. It's a good idea to make sure you are comparing the right ring slot! :D
Path of Building has already had such a MASSIVE impact on how we build characters in PoE, and here we go again into a new era - algorithmically perfect item shopping... I'm honestly not sure how to feel but it sure is powerful and it sure is handy. Soon maybe I can just click a button and PoB will give me a step by step for an AI-generated perfect build.
i like it cause the hassle of shopping stopped me from getting really into the actual endgame of poe. might actually return to try this out.
I don't think I ever enjoyed searching for items on trade.
Its a hassle but you can get good at it, but its not why I enjoy the game. And I'm not sad to see it leave
POB shopping app 🛍️😍
Can’t wait for PoB to be available on console. I’m sure it’ll be amazing
@@a0000a1234 If the hassle of trade was what was keeping you from the endgame you wouldn't have lasted much longer anyway. All trade does is expedite the length of the gearing process and thus shorten the endgame drastically.
Anything that makes trade less miserable is an amazing change in the game. Thanks for showing this Ziggy!
Thank you for making a video on this. I saw the button in the new update and wasn't sure what it did. Awesome!
This is absolutely phenomenal. I play SSF and this will help me identify what to look for while mapping and crafting.
Thanks for the vid highlighting the feature Ziggy, it's great to have people help spread the awareness of this new feature. Wanted to help provide some more information to those who wish to use it
1. Dolmur, Nostrademous and Dullson are the three people that have done all the coding to create this feature. So thank them if you see them around on Reddit, Twitch chat or the comments here on YT
2. The feature is still in development and will have a bunch more features added as we continue to update PoB. We've already added a max price box to the item finder search (This will be in the next update coming out tomorrow)
3. The issues with it selecting the wrong league and the UI being ontop of each other will also be solved in the next update
4. The issues people have had where they are getting POESESSID errors are not always actually to do with their POESESSID but sometimes the skill they are using or some other bugs. We're working on fixing these + issues people have had trying to use the feature on DoT builds
5. We definitely plan to allow people to allow people to set the stats they wish to have the weighted search work on. So all the different DPS metrics (Average Hit/DoT/Ignite/Bleed etc.). This will also include defensive stats at some point (eHP, Phys Max hit, Ele max hit etc.)
6. You can set the sort by box in the top right to DPS and look at the searched items in PoB will be auto sorted for you. Hovering over the items will show you the full stat differences so you can easily see at a glance how much DPS it will provide you (should work better after tomorrows update when it chooses the correct league for you)
7. You can ctrl+click on the trade link to open it in your web browser. No need to copy and paste the link
8. Currently when you have a weighted search or any search with 10000+ results (like you had with your jewel search), the website is only able to do a sort on the first 10000 results. So you can potentially miss out on the best DPS options cause they might show up at the 11000 result on the trade site. An easy way to fix this is to increase the minimum weight at the very top of the weighted search so that less that 10000 results show up.
absolutely brilliant feature :D
would love to see POB somehow get more love from GGG in POE2
How will you respond when GGG tries to shut this down ?
do you have any plans to move to oauth instead of requiring us to share our POESESSID as a response to POE's official stance posted yesterday?
Do you realise your tool doesn't calculate poison dps correctly, it calculates on hit damage rather than poison btw
This is an amazing update. Can't wait to try it. Jewels we're always such a pain
Incredible! Worked a treat for finding an instant dps increase for my totem build (weapon slot in my case). Thanks for sharing this info!
Oh this is sweet. It was also be cool if PoB could "craft" the best rare for the build. From a final item I could recreate the actual crafting method needed to make it, but if PoB could theorize the BiS rare for each slot that would be a game changer.
The immediate improvement to that feature I see is the possibility to cull the mods under a certain weight threshold for better filtering/searching. Thanks a lot for showing that to us !
Seems like a great way to fix attributes and/or resists without losing damage too. Even if it just means browsing a much shorter list of good candidates I'll take it.
Copying an item from trade was an awesome tip. I didn't even see the link until you pointed it out. Thank you!
just got this recommended and holy jesus am i glad it did... thank you so much for spreading the information about this absoutely insane feature!
Amazing update, amazing guide. Thanks pob and thanks Ziggyd !
Thank you for showing this, Ziggy!
thanks Ziggy! i played around for 5min with this...improved my build massively for no currency whatsoever. damn
upvoted, amazing update this makes life so much easier to gear out your character, crazy insane
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This is awesome! I didn't know about this, thank you.
This is amazing info thanks Ziggy!
OMG I love it. 5 Minutes in and already learning some interesting things about my build.
Good asf, i used and my build increase alot the DPS, thank you so much!
I needed this. Thanks.
This is fricking insane. Thank you for making a video about it.
GGG:
Oh no, we need to do something about this "Shady Tool" xD
Amazing Ziggy, thx for this!
Love ya Ziggy, thanks for the new video
great timing, I've been wondering what to look for in an amulet to improve my glacial cascade Inquisitor.
+1 cold and crit multi are the only mods I could think of.
thanks for this video, I noticed that feature in pob and was very confused when I tried using it
Thanks for the amazing video!! I'm not much in the mood to play this league tbh but maybe I try only due to this, I see how it can be fun to just press some buttons to upgrade the build instead of having to break your mind to figure it out
I loved this video so much that I subscribed to you just because of this video (Sorry for not subscribing earlier ^^)
This feature makes me want to get back into the game lol!! Thanks for sharing
Running an Absolution Minion build and sadly this isn't ready to handle that. Cool feature and hope to see it have some more knobs to turn to have it prioritize minion dps, ignore resistance, or similar things.
Thx!With only 5 Chaos investment and 5 min of time, my Dps goes from 7000 fire damage to 15500 flat fire damage on one of my main skill gem.And i have slot to bench craft QoL resist or Life.
Thankyou PoB team!
I think as a guy who is more New to poe its a really nice help i find this game really complex
Very well done video, i was as baffled as you where when i discovered that feature and that's part of the reason i HAD to tell you about this. It's just SOOO next level ! :D
Will be interesting to see how GGG reacts to this.
ggg: you can only search for 3 mods at most, no advanced conditions etc basically gut how complex query can be
Awesome, thanks for the guide btw
Ziggy! I love you bro! For a noob as me, this tools makes my game a much more fun!
What a great plugin to help if you’re willing to put a little time in to mess around with it for sure!
Is there a way for this to calculate for poison/dot dps? It seems that when i do this it only calculates for hit dps
Pob about to be more advanced then the game itself
Replaced my helmet, gloves, and a ring after this and got about a 70% DPS boost (and about 150 life). This is amazing!
insane tool but doesn't appear to be working for DoT currently, either they haven't implemented DoT modifers or it is sorting by hit DPS instead of Combined or Total DPS. Was excited to use this to search for jewels for EK ignite, endgame build can use like 5+ jewels, even more if I find insane enough ones. They're not too difficult to search for but I'd love to see how normal jewels are weighted compared to abyss ones, as that comparison is stupidly difficult to make by hand, especially when you need to compare that +level of gems through empower makes flat phys from jewels less impactful but stacking DoT multi makes extra sources of DoT multi also less powerful. So there might be a breakpoint where abyss jewels become better at one stage of the build, but are then surprassed by cobalt jewels with a max level empower.
Yes, cannot get it to work properly for EK ignite build :( let me know if you find a solution
yea im doing an EA build at the moment and tried it on a quiver, doesn't work :(
Same here
I'm playing ignite (not EK though) and 99.999% of the time the highest full DPS is also the highest ignite DPS. Otherwise that would mean your hit scaling is still significantly higher than your ignite scaling, which doesn't sound right. Or I'm missing something
I am playing chaos dot...theres absolutely no way the shit thats being presented to me is ideal for my build. I like the idea here...but I apparently can't use this function..
Oh man, this is really an awesome extension. But I can very well imagine that GGG won't like it at all if we can search for items faster and better.
Feel the weight of the search exile!
I am always getting the error "POE SESS ID invalid" even though I just relogged on the poe site and extracted the session id a minute ago. Also started it in admin mode without changes, anyone else having the same problem and knows a solution?
I can't figure out how to make it look for Poison DPS, it seems to only work for hits?
Holy shit, thanks Ziggy!
The power and quality of life and time saved by this tool cannot be overstated - whoever creater this, take my greatest gratitude and utmost respect.
Thank you so much for the guide! But I don't understand how to make calculations for live weapons? The software constantly gives an error - choose another skill or turn on full dps (and I already have it turned on)
For anyone having a problem getting this to work for minion builds there is a workaround. Select each of your minion skills that you want to contribute to the search and click on the 'Include in Full DPS' button at the end of the skill. Once you have done this for one skill at least, the tool now works for minion builds as well.
i am new to PoE just 2weeks old, can you please teach me how I can do this for my necromancer srs poison ?
Hmmmm going to have to check.this out in the morning.
I love you soo much for this
This tool is a game changer. Especially for a casual player. I don't have time to research upgrades for hours at a time. I only have a few hours to play here and there.
Oh god I was waiting for this to be implemented for years now, guess I'm going back to PoE this league!
Excellent news! when PoE plays itself for me too, then I can play it again
I need it to search my own tabs, that would be a great feature.
This is very very cool - one question: does it consider the weighted impact of unique mods, or is this only ever going to suggest buying rares and uniques with craftable mods? E.g. If a unique offers me a build defining keystone as a stat, is that gonna come up in the calculation?
A heads up for folks interested in using this feature. It is definitely beta and DOES NOT do well with chaos dot skills focusing on dot damage. Playing a caustic arrow/toxic rain build and it was focusing on increasing my hit dps rather than dot.
Thanks for the heads up, looks amazing. What is supposed to be the POESESSID? I have tried to put my loggin as, but won´t let me introduce all letters. any help will be much appreciated. thx
İM KEEP GETTİNG ERROR '' how im gonna find '' POESESSID '' ? it want me to write it down manually but how
This just for jewels is already worth it. Like you said you can get a good jewel search down to 90% but it takes a decent bit of time.
Can't wait for PoB to start making coffee for us! It'll be awesome!
For some reason, it keeps forwarding me to HC Sanctum when I am playing SC Trade and have SC Trade selected.
That will make those not-quite-beginning-of-the-league upgrades so much more pleasant...
That is insane!
We're officially living in the future. What a time to be alive.
Bro we used to search the forums for hours looking at peoples forum shops and searching for one specific globe upgrade for days at a time… this is just insane
I play ssf but HOLY... It's amazing. It's still so helpful.
Need Help! I have sessionid setup along with character properly imported and configured! But when I paste the link and set my league it says "No results found" I even slowly got rid of all the weighted affixs and it never finds any items even with 1 weighted affix! Not sure why I cant get it finding items. Help is appreciated thanks :)
it works, i hope it gets better.
For some reason it thinks CI builds dont need ES but do need minion based buffs
Tried this for my death's oath aura occultist build and there it doesnt really work, seems like the output is not yet configured for DoT Builds, atleast poison also has some issues i've heard.
Why is it defaulting to HC Ruthless search instead of Sanctum?
not working for my minion poison build. keeps returning nonsense like 2 mod blue items.
when it eventually works i'm sure it'll be my favorite part of pob
I have trouble with my Session ID...cant figure it out...always says posessid is invalid
I've been using pob for the past 3 years but never used the 'node power' feature yet. What am I missing?
I just either plan my own or work off of a made pob and change it abit.
I put my ssid in podb build that I like and press search for item, I get error or item that is not in build, so when put URL in browser I get totally something different, is it still buggy?
anyone trying out the "find upgrades" in pob//poe trade site? dont understand why it assigns a dps gain value for stats like life and res?
I wonder if there's ever going to be a line of automation for this stuff that will go just a little too far for ggg and they put a block in or something.
This is sick!
Thats a crazy good feature if it works properly
I wonder if this will improve the value of doing ID'd chaos recipe. Chucking anything with a couple damage mods into a bulk sale tab would be a great way to earn some largely passive income. A tool like this makes actually finding those cheap jank items really easy, so it could incentivize people to both sell and buy them.
When I did a search for helms it had Base: % instead of damage increase. What does this mean? Higher base = more damage?
I definitely always looked for a way to copy items from POB into POE trade search, even just for predefined items, if you are following a build guide for example. But this is something else.
Not sure how to feel about this, truly. This looks a little bit too good, and will bring the player power level higher for sure, which is definitely fantastic for the average player. I hope GGG is not going to balance the game around this xD
Trading in POE was always something players don't like, with this players will trade more, which is definitely good :) Way to solve trading without ggg xD or at least half of the problems :)
I tried using it but for some reason every item it shows for the weapon search is a DPS downgrade? I only have Sinvicta's axe I know that it's not the best I can use lol
Doesn't seem to work if your Offhand is a shield. It keeps telling me to buy weapons that aren't better than my mainhand.
Wish I could use it for my build but PoB currently doesn't calculate decay dps correctly.
Yeah, it's definitely not going to work perfectly for everything (or at all for some things). Like it can't really calculate the extra value of another projectile in my build for example. And some builds just don't quite work with DPS calculations.
@@ZiggyDGaming It's at least a nice addition for most build though for sure even with some builds not being able to really make use of it.
Needing a bit of help here, I am playing an EK ignite build and when trying to use this to find upgrades, it is priortising hit damage over burning damage, resulting in a loss of dps. Is there something I am doing wrong?
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
I really want this to work with Timeless jewels. It can already tell me which one's the best but manually putting in every number is maddening
i am not sure if low weighting means it's low value --- it's relative to the number ranges, ie, if something has a high range, like accuracy, the value of adding 1 accuracy is lower.
Excellent!
I'm having an issue with my build. Works on with imported builds, but not my actual build. Keeps saying POESESSID is invalid. Please re-log. I have copied the POESESSID from the website but still doesn't work. Any tips? Thanks
This is totally game changing. My search returned a belt that had Malevolence effect AND Skill effect duration worth 3c for my Toxic Rain Pathfinder and I just laughed. I totally forgot about corrupted implicits like that.
This is super cool
I imagine this function adding massively to the power creep
Nah, this isn't adding anything. It's just making what's out there easier to find
They already balance around this. If anything it allows more people to get the intended experience.
What I mean is, more people will experience the uber endgame content due to this feature, thus more high end items enter the market, thus more people get stronger characters. Rinse and repeat.
@@Icenforce Are you saying that that's a bad thing?
@@notskrub7013 I guess they want to gatekeep those things...? Lol. And league ends after 3 months. Power creep really isn't a big thing when the league resets every 3 months.