The NAME Boogaloo existed before the group came out, even SAM admits that. I even saw a clip of Jaes Brown doing what he called, the James Brown Boogaloo which didn't remotely resemble what the EBs are doing. These guys perfected their signature style of movement that is wildly imitated, and yes, even by MJ
I can admit that before I started dancing, I, too, thought Michael Jackson's moves were all his own. I then did research and found out that he actually learned a great deal of his moves, if not all of them, from other great dancers. Yes, he was a notable dancer before the EBs came about, however he did learn a lot from them. The backslide (what he later dubbed the "moonwalk") was actually taught to him by Jeffery Daniels of the band Shalamar. Know your history, kiddies. It is quite important.
Even though Popping Pete and Suga Pop don't ask for respect I freely give it. I really appreciate their passion & willingness to share it with the world. Looking back at Breakin' I didn't grasp what those OG's were truly capable of until about week ago Thanks to UA-cam.I mean these guys were magical to us kid's from the Midwest. We mimicked what we saw from Breakin' & to the untrained eye passerbys thought we were tight. Today I can learn the fundamentals from these two pro's & Pop N' Taco
Proud to say Suga Pop is part Samoan! I've had the honor of learning from him and I don't care what anyone says but they're legends in my eyes and in their own rights.
He is definitely Samoan. There are plenty of Samoan people in the US, particularly but not only the West Coast. NZ, and Auckland in particular is a traditional work hub for samoan people. NZ is also the island at the southern most extreme of the polynesian triangle which includes Easter Island, Tahiti, Tonga, Samoa and the Cooks. Even Dwayne Johnson, the Rock, stayed here for a while. He is a great guy, and a close friend of mine stayed with him in New York when he lived there.
Concerning the Moonwalk (backslide) - I thought it was Jeffery Daniels as well, but recently saw some videos where the EB's claim it was them and in particular Geron “Caszper” Candidate...
Thank God for the Japanese. They have kept Poppin N Lockin culture alive. I love the passion they have for dancing and it must be said that they have a lot of excellent dancers themselves over there. ✌🏽
Nah it needs to remain as our culture.Everybody has been taking our culture disregarding us.The whole Chicano culture came from us and they now get credit for things they had absolutely nothing to do with.
I feel odd saying this but I'm glad that this new generation don't have a clue how to really do it oldschool. I don't want to learn from them cause they don't know nor respect the core moves of Popping. They equally lack soul & passion. I wanna learn directly from the originals. The fact that Popping Pete, Boogaloo Shrimp, Shabba Doo, Ana LolliPop Sanchez, & my favorite Pop N' Taco are still dancing, literally blew my mind! I must learn from the pro's the basics Ya'll I'll be Poppin' in my 80's
@kopstar12 They did not invent popping. Sam invented EB style, popping was around before though. They say if you don't do EB style you ain't popping which is bullshit. Also they said the term pop locking didn't exist and that's not what it was called, but in L.A that's what this dance was called.
It doesn't ds credit MJ to say he learned some of his moves from the Boogaloos and other street dancers. Remember MJ was a dude who grew up in the same era as these guys, that he loved dance, and always stayed current on what the latest dances were. Being a student of dance himself of course so e moves were purely his own(like his signature spin move)
@SavageChacolate Watch any video of Michael, and see that MJ was dancing and known as a dancer before them. MJ actually pop locked in 1977 check it out which was three years before them, however he did train with them because they were the it thing at the time. He gave them jobs and many of them were in videos.
I know...that Sam originated this electric boogaloo. James brown was signing about another form another style. and the guys in Oakland and the fillmore district were not doing the Electric Boogaloo. It has to be Sam Solomon who gets the credit.
let me tell ya something im from beaumont texas,i know how to pop,i can wack dance,im one of the best out here.my main move is waving and tickin,plus im also good at the boogaloo like those guys from cali,im old school 42 and still can jam.im nt that good at locking though that wasnt my style.peace out.
@enigmaboogie Not true, at every stage MJ changed his style and started some others. Some of these guys especially the one speaking or both of them are full of it. He claims one of them taught MJ the robot which is bs because MJ was doing it in 73 which was seven years before he met them. MJ worked and worked with their styles but they are taking wayyy to much credit, especially considering MJ incorporated a bunch of different styles, more than just pop locking.
I'm a BIG MJ fan myself, no doubt, but I side with the Boogaloos story about teaching him some moves. Why is this such an uncomfortable idea? Because he's MICHAEL?? This is the entertainment industry. A LOT of people, make a so called star what they are, including choreographers and trainers.
@jin n'tonic you're wrong bro! michael j did learned from famous street dancers such as poppin taco, jeffery Daniels and boogaloo shrimp....this is a raw fact because mike said it himself......
@1980Triumph Just where has MJ ever popped locked. He incorporates some movements from Funk styles, but I've never actually ever seen michael jackson ever pop once. Or do a wrist roll.
@yaboit33 Dude, the whole Boogaloo dance was something that existed BEFORE the Electric Boogaloo's. None of these guys originated anything from the backslide/moonwalk to any of their moves. It annoys me how people claim that Michael Jackson's whole dance thing is from them which is BS. These guys are good and I love them but do not like when they or people take too many claims on MJ. MJ was a noted dancer before them.
Then you don't really know your history. Michael Jackson credited street dances for showing him a lot of his dance moves, the moonwalk being one. It wasn't even called the moonwalk, it was called the backslide and Michael was taught that by Casper Canidate and other moves by Jeffrey Daniels. Michael did what all great dancers do, learned from a lot of people and put his own style to it.
@@jeffreywhitaker5154 I arrived in Fresno in 1979 from Los Angeles and was in elementary school. I was in southeast Fresno when I first saw kids popping. I was amazed of what I saw, then I heard of the poppers from southwest Fresno, from where Sam and popping pete are from. It was crazy. So yes popping started in Fresno. Popping pete thought his cousin Rabbit from long beach and it blew up in Los Angeles...the rest is history. You can see these guys on soul train videos from 1979. Check it out on UA-cam.
Michael Jackson was around before these guys MJ learned how to dance off James Brown and Fred Astaire not these guys... he was taught a few ideas and steps thats all from these guys
@Hippityhop11 Go tell someone like Koolboy or Anthony King (two poplocker OGs from Compton) that there's no such thing as poplockin and I'm sure that comment you made here will be void
Man i never understand when people say these guys taught MJ fully thats bullshit, it seems like they are some what bitter and need to discredit MJ to make themselves bigger. Michael Jackson learned off James Brown Fred Astaire Bob Fosse if these guys taught mike why have i never seen the boogaloos spin 4 times land on their toes and all the other fred astaire angles ha
Don't mean2 talk shit but Mr Wiggles is 4 me by far the best I've ever seen,pete and suga couldn't beat Wigz on his worst day,oh yeah,poppin has evolved by ADDING waving,tuttin,animating and the robot Wigz falls in that category,pete and suga DON'T
FOR UR INFORMATION SUGA POP TAUGHT MR. WIGGLES HOW TO POP....MR. WIGGLES SAID THIS HIMSELF....SUGA POP WAS WIGGLES TEACHER......N POPPIN PETE HAD A FAMOUS BROTHER SAM n HE ALSO CREATED N MORE POPPIN TECHNIQUES .. PROPS TO THESE 3 SAM ... POPPIN PETE N SUGA POP.
dont know what half you people are talkin about. there is no such thing as 'Pop Locking' there is either Popping or Locking. if u dont know that much, your comments are void.
I was on tour with these guys back in 1984. Korea, Taiwan and it was an amazing adventure!
The NAME Boogaloo existed before the group came out, even SAM admits that. I even saw a clip of Jaes Brown doing what he called, the James Brown Boogaloo which didn't remotely resemble what the EBs are doing. These guys perfected their signature style of movement that is wildly imitated, and yes, even by MJ
LEGENDS!
I can admit that before I started dancing, I, too, thought Michael Jackson's moves were all his own. I then did research and found out that he actually learned a great deal of his moves, if not all of them, from other great dancers. Yes, he was a notable dancer before the EBs came about, however he did learn a lot from them. The backslide (what he later dubbed the "moonwalk") was actually taught to him by Jeffery Daniels of the band Shalamar. Know your history, kiddies. It is quite important.
love this interview
I met Suga Pop back in the late 8Os when he came to NZ to see his family. Good to see him again keepin it real and representing.....
Even though Popping Pete and Suga Pop don't ask for respect I freely give it. I really appreciate their passion & willingness to share it with the world. Looking back at Breakin' I didn't grasp what those OG's were truly capable of until about week ago Thanks to UA-cam.I mean these guys were magical to us kid's from the Midwest. We mimicked what we saw from Breakin' & to the untrained eye passerbys thought we were tight. Today I can learn the fundamentals from these two pro's & Pop N' Taco
Suga Pop Is The Dopest!
much respect the these guys..*****
Proud to say Suga Pop is part Samoan! I've had the honor of learning from him and I don't care what anyone says but they're legends in my eyes and in their own rights.
Fr? That's dope
Much respect to Popping Pete, Suga Pop, Pop 'n Taco, Skeet Rabbit, Mr. Wiggles, Boogaloo Sam and all the Electric Boogaloos! The real Masters !!!!
much respect to peter and punkin pop from highland park ca!
These guys are BADDDDD poppers - Wow! I remember these days - you don't see good poplocking like this anymore
That was dope they don't even dance like that no more.
He is definitely Samoan. There are plenty of Samoan people in the US, particularly but not only the West Coast. NZ, and Auckland in particular is a traditional work hub for samoan people. NZ is also the island at the southern most extreme of the polynesian triangle which includes Easter Island, Tahiti, Tonga, Samoa and the Cooks. Even Dwayne Johnson, the Rock, stayed here for a while. He is a great guy, and a close friend of mine stayed with him in New York when he lived there.
FRESNO's FINEST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Concerning the Moonwalk (backslide) - I thought it was Jeffery Daniels as well, but recently saw some videos where the EB's claim it was them and in particular Geron “Caszper” Candidate...
Poppin Pete....💪👆
Thank God for the Japanese. They have kept Poppin N Lockin culture alive. I love the passion they have for dancing and it must be said that they have a lot of excellent dancers themselves over there. ✌🏽
Nah it needs to remain as our culture.Everybody has been taking our culture disregarding us.The whole Chicano culture came from us and they now get credit for things they had absolutely nothing to do with.
The Bay area had the first signs of popping in like the early 1970's
I feel odd saying this but I'm glad that this new generation don't have a clue how to really do it oldschool. I don't want to learn from them cause they don't know nor respect the core moves of Popping. They equally lack soul & passion. I wanna learn directly from the originals. The fact that Popping Pete, Boogaloo Shrimp, Shabba Doo, Ana LolliPop Sanchez, & my favorite Pop N' Taco are still dancing, literally blew my mind! I must learn from the pro's the basics Ya'll I'll be Poppin' in my 80's
Yes suga pop his right West coast started locking
what the song that pete and suga pop dance to while they are in the dance studio?
@hbbvivo i think its xzibit with get your walk on or something like that.
Poppin' Pete looks like an older version of Kid from Kid N Play.
You must mean an older version of play
Is there any more footage of the part from 02:26 - 02:37 anywhere?
Does anyone know the song name when they start to dance from 5:21?
@kopstar12 They did not invent popping. Sam invented EB style, popping was around before though. They say if you don't do EB style you ain't popping which is bullshit. Also they said the term pop locking didn't exist and that's not what it was called, but in L.A that's what this dance was called.
Finally I saw some comments telling the truth. Popping wasn’t even called popping and it existed before Sam and the EBs, but Sam gotta lie to people
I love Popin Pete, I don't know much about his older brother Sam who taught Pete, did Pete surpass Sam?
It doesn't ds credit MJ to say he learned some of his moves from the Boogaloos and other street dancers. Remember MJ was a dude who grew up in the same era as these guys, that he loved dance, and always stayed current on what the latest dances were. Being a student of dance himself of course so e moves were purely his own(like his signature spin move)
@SavageChacolate
Watch any video of Michael, and see that MJ was dancing and known as a dancer before them. MJ actually pop locked in 1977 check it out which was three years before them, however he did train with them because they were the it thing at the time. He gave them jobs and many of them were in videos.
Where's the part when they start talking about Michael Jackson ?
barkeys - up in here
I know...that Sam originated this electric boogaloo. James brown was signing about another form another style. and the guys in Oakland and the fillmore district were not doing the Electric Boogaloo. It has to be Sam Solomon who gets the credit.
Rest In Peace Skeeter Rabbit..... My Uncle Pete is reppin, Yea!!! Pete If You Read This Its stan's Son.... Tell Shonnie wussup haa
let me tell ya something im from beaumont texas,i know how to pop,i can wack dance,im one of the best out here.my main move is waving and tickin,plus im also good at the boogaloo like those guys from cali,im old school 42 and still can jam.im nt that good at locking though that wasnt my style.peace out.
New Zealand? What race is Suga Pop?
Suga pop is Samoan
@enigmaboogie
Not true, at every stage MJ changed his style and started some others. Some of these guys especially the one speaking or both of them are full of it. He claims one of them taught MJ the robot which is bs because MJ was doing it in 73 which was seven years before he met them. MJ worked and worked with their styles but they are taking wayyy to much credit, especially considering MJ incorporated a bunch of different styles, more than just pop locking.
Ginuwine needs to talk about his coming.
I'm a BIG MJ fan myself, no doubt, but I side with the Boogaloos story about teaching him some moves. Why is this such an uncomfortable idea? Because he's MICHAEL?? This is the entertainment industry. A LOT of people, make a so called star what they are, including choreographers and trainers.
suga pop looks with roxrite
@jin n'tonic you're wrong bro! michael j did learned from famous street dancers such as poppin taco, jeffery Daniels and boogaloo shrimp....this is a raw fact because mike said it himself......
@1980Triumph
too bad for you, it was these GUYS that taught michael jackson how to dance. and like suga pop just said, Michael put his own flavor in.
@1980Triumph
Just where has MJ ever popped locked. He incorporates some movements from Funk styles, but I've never actually ever seen michael jackson ever pop once. Or do a wrist roll.
He made an attempt of it during the Thriller choreography dance
@yaboit33
Dude, the whole Boogaloo dance was something that existed BEFORE the Electric Boogaloo's. None of these guys originated anything from the backslide/moonwalk to any of their moves. It annoys me how people claim that Michael Jackson's whole dance thing is from them which is BS. These guys are good and I love them but do not like when they or people take too many claims on MJ. MJ was a noted dancer before them.
dude backslide and moonwalk are two different moves.
Suga Pop has a white mother and a black father.
Then you don't really know your history. Michael Jackson credited street dances for showing him a lot of his dance moves, the moonwalk being one. It wasn't even called the moonwalk, it was called the backslide and Michael was taught that by Casper Canidate and other moves by Jeffrey Daniels. Michael did what all great dancers do, learned from a lot of people and put his own style to it.
Keep it real boogaloon. Was invented in the bay area oakland in the early 70s
The originator was Boogaloo Sam. Born in Fresno Cali.
@@jeffreywhitaker5154 originator of what
@@andreweaver8134 just Wikipedia boogaloo Sam.
@@jeffreywhitaker5154 I arrived in Fresno in 1979 from Los Angeles and was in elementary school. I was in southeast Fresno when I first saw kids popping. I was amazed of what I saw, then I heard of the poppers from southwest Fresno, from where Sam and popping pete are from. It was crazy. So yes popping started in Fresno. Popping pete thought his cousin Rabbit from long beach and it blew up in Los Angeles...the rest is history. You can see these guys on soul train videos from 1979. Check it out on UA-cam.
@@scrappys4130 you got it right bro. 👍🏾
Michael Jackson was around before these guys MJ learned how to dance off James Brown and Fred Astaire not these guys... he was taught a few ideas and steps thats all from these guys
@Hippityhop11 Go tell someone like Koolboy or Anthony King (two poplocker OGs from Compton) that there's no such thing as poplockin and I'm sure that comment you made here will be void
@1980Triumph Michael Jackson hasn't changed in years guess you don't like him either
Man i never understand when people say these guys taught MJ fully thats bullshit, it seems like they are some what bitter and need to discredit MJ to make themselves bigger. Michael Jackson learned off James Brown Fred Astaire Bob Fosse if these guys taught mike why have i never seen the boogaloos spin 4 times land on their toes and all the other fred astaire angles ha
Wow you really don't have a clue about the history of dance... Michael Jackson didn't street dance so where did he learn it from?
Don't mean2 talk shit but Mr Wiggles is 4 me by far the best I've ever seen,pete and suga couldn't beat Wigz on his worst day,oh yeah,poppin has evolved by ADDING waving,tuttin,animating and the robot Wigz falls in that category,pete and suga DON'T
FOR UR INFORMATION SUGA POP TAUGHT MR. WIGGLES HOW TO POP....MR. WIGGLES SAID THIS HIMSELF....SUGA POP WAS WIGGLES TEACHER......N POPPIN PETE HAD A FAMOUS BROTHER SAM n HE ALSO CREATED N MORE POPPIN TECHNIQUES .. PROPS TO THESE 3 SAM ... POPPIN PETE N SUGA POP.
@@hildapompa4236 nothing wrong with the student surpassing the teacher
dont know what half you people are talkin about. there is no such thing as 'Pop Locking'
there is either Popping or Locking. if u dont know that much, your comments are void.
I don't like these guys. They haven't changed in years, they seem to be bitter.........whatever.
Suga Pop has a white mother and a black father.