Mandela was isolated into negotiations the last 5 years of his imprisonment and the Nats' condition was that the issue of the land be taken off the table. That's why Chris Hani had to go and Winnie Mandela was vilified. It's also why we say Mandela sold out
So what I’m hearing is that organizations that were radical 50 years ago can devolve into reformist or even outright neoliberal parties if not countered and kept in check by class struggle from below. If only we could extend this to our analysis of the Democratic Party here in the United States..
ANC was never radical. U can't be radical and have ur charter start with, 'South Africa belongs to all who live in it' while talking about ur oppressor. ANC was integrationist
@@TukwilaRed1974 no. They started out in 1910 as a general African rights organisation and apartheid was promulgated in 1948. They were actually unwilling to fight for liberation. That's why Robert Sobukwe and pan africanists got frustrated, left the ANC in 1957 or so, and formed the PAC. It was only after Robert Sobukwe and the events of Sharpeville in 1960 that the ANC started being pushed as the biggest threat by the apartheid regime. All while they were basically eliminating the real threat, Sobukwe, who many say is the real Mandela. People, including many of us South Africans, for a long time, think the ANC are liberators when they actively opposed any solely African party, especially the PAC and the Black Consciousness Movement of Biko.
We've long said that the ANC was the political wing of WMC (wyt monopoly capital) anyway, especially since Cyril took over. But a lot of this is on Julius Malema. His vociferous support for the ousting of Jacob Zuma, as well as his appeal to middle class Africans using the aesthetic of a disenfranchised revolutionary AND mishandling of the xenophobia issue is why the EFF stagnated. He's no longer the boogeyman
I don't get people who say Juju is a revolutionary. Dude said they get palm coloured attorneys because the wanna win their cases 😂. And he said apartheid was better. Like... I know he's also said some right words, but he's a walking contradiction. Eastern Cape was WIDE open, as was Limpopo, and he chose to concentrate on the rich blacks
Now there are some things that I look at at the economic freedom fighters That makes sense even though we can go into if they really pan africanism Because they was talking about unifying Africa and doing a simulasian to bring Africa back together the A. And C and the D, a, they bothpreactionary and the DA believes in Western values traditions, morals and ethics, it's not good for. Southern Africa.
I wonder what challenges the ANC has faced over the decades that it now finds itself in such a predicament.
Mandela was isolated into negotiations the last 5 years of his imprisonment and the Nats' condition was that the issue of the land be taken off the table. That's why Chris Hani had to go and Winnie Mandela was vilified. It's also why we say Mandela sold out
So what I’m hearing is that organizations that were radical 50 years ago can devolve into reformist or even outright neoliberal parties if not countered and kept in check by class struggle from below. If only we could extend this to our analysis of the Democratic Party here in the United States..
ANC was never radical. U can't be radical and have ur charter start with, 'South Africa belongs to all who live in it' while talking about ur oppressor. ANC was integrationist
@@MsZandiX What was it before the charter? Did they not start out as a liberation movement opposed to apartheid?
@@TukwilaRed1974 no. They started out in 1910 as a general African rights organisation and apartheid was promulgated in 1948. They were actually unwilling to fight for liberation. That's why Robert Sobukwe and pan africanists got frustrated, left the ANC in 1957 or so, and formed the PAC. It was only after Robert Sobukwe and the events of Sharpeville in 1960 that the ANC started being pushed as the biggest threat by the apartheid regime. All while they were basically eliminating the real threat, Sobukwe, who many say is the real Mandela. People, including many of us South Africans, for a long time, think the ANC are liberators when they actively opposed any solely African party, especially the PAC and the Black Consciousness Movement of Biko.
@@MsZandiX can you let Black Power Media know cause I think they think otherwise. they seem to be surprised by this ANC turn.
We've long said that the ANC was the political wing of WMC (wyt monopoly capital) anyway, especially since Cyril took over. But a lot of this is on Julius Malema. His vociferous support for the ousting of Jacob Zuma, as well as his appeal to middle class Africans using the aesthetic of a disenfranchised revolutionary AND mishandling of the xenophobia issue is why the EFF stagnated. He's no longer the boogeyman
I don't get people who say Juju is a revolutionary. Dude said they get palm coloured attorneys because the wanna win their cases 😂. And he said apartheid was better. Like... I know he's also said some right words, but he's a walking contradiction. Eastern Cape was WIDE open, as was Limpopo, and he chose to concentrate on the rich blacks
@@MsZandiX It seems all party are controlled opposition. Black liberalism is *extremely* lethal!!!
Now there are some things that I look at at the economic freedom fighters That makes sense even though we can go into if they really pan africanism Because they was talking about unifying Africa and doing a simulasian to bring Africa back together the A. And C and the D, a, they bothpreactionary and the DA believes in Western values traditions, morals and ethics, it's not good for. Southern Africa.
ANC is done. The MK and EFF are the future.
This _future_ is annihilation.