Baymen: The Pirate Lumberjacks

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
  • The Baymen were a loose band of former pirates settled as rugged frontiersmen in the inhospitable Yucatan Peninsula. They earned their dough-boys by the cutting of wood: actually a legume, called Logwood, which was used in the production of expensive dyes. This is how they operated, lived, ate, fought and suffered, all so that the European bigwigs could have their fancy clothes.
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    Sources:
    Two Voyages to Campechy - William Dampier
    The Buccaneer's Realm - Benerson Little
    Under the Black Flag - David Cordingly
    Wafer's New Voyage - Lionel Wafer
    0:00 Introduction
    1:09 Logwood
    3:30 How the Baymen Lived
    7:10 How the Baymen Hunted
    8:47 A Bayman Economy
    10:19 The Yucatan Nature
    13:57 Piracy and Neighbors
    18:02 Outro
    #pirates #history #belize

КОМЕНТАРІ • 106

  • @TigerBaron
    @TigerBaron 11 місяців тому +4

    So Charles Vane was a bayman before in Black Sails?
    Rather interesting that was true, I never imagined people would actually consider living on the island where they chopped the wood as well.

  • @DanielWade91
    @DanielWade91 2 роки тому +35

    Working on a long poem about the Baymen - I think it's a fascinating part of history and this has been a great source. As an Irishman also named Daniel, it's amazing to hear of his escape. Cheers for this one, mate.

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +4

      The poem sounds awesome!

    • @DanielWade91
      @DanielWade91 2 роки тому +3

      @@GoldandGunpowder thanks! It was certainly fun to write. I'll send it on to you when it's done, if you'd like?

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +2

      sure

  • @kalavi-knightlygaming
    @kalavi-knightlygaming 2 роки тому +14

    Jolly fellows but not so jolly nature, interesting to know about people who in a way were similar to the bucanners but we're entirely different

  • @clevermcgenericname891
    @clevermcgenericname891 2 роки тому +27

    Its great to learn about the history of the Caribbean from your videos- its very similar to the historical progression of the American frontier, except better, because it has buccaneers.
    Keep up the great work! These videos keep getting better!
    PS- angry old neoliberal says eat the bugs and live in the pod, peasants, I say it'll be a pirates life for me, rich bois.

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +8

      im also very interested in the history of the american frontier, it has cowboys after all .)

  • @TheRiverPirate13
    @TheRiverPirate13 2 роки тому +13

    Ahoy! Enjoyed learning about the Baymen. In my waters there are ruins of historic Indigo plantations with the equipment used to process Indigo still intact. There are even modern Indigo farms too! When I think of the Yucatan Peninsula today I think of eco tourism and Mayan ruins! Lol! Must have been brutal existence back in the 1700 & 1800's for log cutters!

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +3

      Cool story about the Indigo plantation, great piece of history

  • @Ravishrex1
    @Ravishrex1 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the mention!.

  • @brookingsbeachcomber
    @brookingsbeachcomber 2 роки тому +9

    maybe the alcohol and tobacco helped with the parasites...rough existence

  • @sadgiraffe6669
    @sadgiraffe6669 2 роки тому +5

    This channel is a golden find. Thanks.

  • @burningchrome70
    @burningchrome70 10 місяців тому +1

    This channel is fun and educational as well as entertaining. I love it! Thank you for the high quality work.

  • @JesusRocksTryPrayin
    @JesusRocksTryPrayin Рік тому +1

    Thank you for creating dude! PIRATES!!! It's been a weird few years.. i'm sure everyone is stressed in different ways I can't even begin to fathom. Funny history videos make the world a better place
    God bless you brah! You use your talents well :D

  • @michaelrredford
    @michaelrredford 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @restitutororbis3936
    @restitutororbis3936 Рік тому +2

    I just discovered this channel due to my rising interest in the game Naval Action and holy moly man, your humor and the way you give information is exactly like mine when it comes to War Thunder and me and my buddies. Fucking amazing channel man.

  • @wegotaproblemuk
    @wegotaproblemuk Рік тому +2

    The you will eat the bugs bit was quality 😂

  • @piraticvs
    @piraticvs 2 роки тому +12

    1:08 have you eaten cactus? It’s delicious and it’s a common food in Mexican households, along with beans and rice!

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +6

      i have not, theres not a lot of cacti where i live but it sounds good

  • @tpr311
    @tpr311 2 роки тому +3

    Not gonna lie. I thought this was a music video when I clicked on it. 100% not disappointed

  • @unknowntrooper_2791
    @unknowntrooper_2791 2 роки тому +4

    Great video about too little known pirates/woodsmen. Much new info.

  • @paulsteele8614
    @paulsteele8614 Рік тому

    Helping out the algorithm as asked , excellent content enjoyed it very much

  • @voltanzapata8024
    @voltanzapata8024 Рік тому

    Enjoying your content keep up the good work!👍🏼

  • @edwardneilloftheclanmacnei7057
    @edwardneilloftheclanmacnei7057 2 роки тому +5

    This is the first time hearing about bayman pirate's

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +2

      glad to hear, my intention is to bring up more unknown pirate lore

  • @waynemcauliffe2362
    @waynemcauliffe2362 2 роки тому +1

    Cheers again mate

  • @bigcuz4689
    @bigcuz4689 2 роки тому +2

    Another great video

  • @Ravishrex1
    @Ravishrex1 2 роки тому +6

    Back for another Gold and Gunpowder blast !

  • @zackbop9045
    @zackbop9045 2 роки тому +3

    omg i love this channel

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 Рік тому +2

    Based Baymen.

  • @rayjohnson9781
    @rayjohnson9781 2 роки тому +3

    This is some good stuff.

  • @mageillus
    @mageillus 2 роки тому +5

    14:24 with barbacoa, salt, lime, salsa, chopped tomatoes and onion, and aguacate, it’ll make for an awesome taco!

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +4

      sounds good

    • @phredphlintstone6455
      @phredphlintstone6455 2 роки тому +1

      What's it called...onion lime peppers and fish? All cut up into tiny little pieces.

    • @VarangianGuard13
      @VarangianGuard13 2 роки тому +1

      @@phredphlintstone6455 Ceviche is the first thing that sprang to my mind, it's very good stuff, and can be quite refreshing, as an appetizer or snack, especially on a hot day.

    • @phredphlintstone6455
      @phredphlintstone6455 2 роки тому +2

      @@VarangianGuard13 ah, thank you. Only had it once but it was great

  • @recoveringlibertarian5982
    @recoveringlibertarian5982 2 роки тому +2

    Very cool

  • @michaelthomas3209
    @michaelthomas3209 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks

  • @fedecano7362
    @fedecano7362 Рік тому

    good content, new subscriber! 🥳🥳

  • @blaircolquhoun7780
    @blaircolquhoun7780 Рік тому +2

    Nice video. I never heard of the Baymen.

  • @witchboy44
    @witchboy44 Рік тому +1

    I’ve been to the yucatan, it’s very beautiful but yeah living in the areas the Baymen did would have been hell, and the mosquitoes are evil there

  • @iancarreras9893
    @iancarreras9893 Рік тому +1

    11:04 alligators don't live in the Yucatan, only crocodiles inhabit Yucatan or the Caribbean for that matter. Alligators are restricted to the United States section of North America. Alligators also weren't so friendly a number of people die every year in attacks.

  • @samuelkovac1008
    @samuelkovac1008 2 роки тому +1

    Nice

  • @AmbroseBoaBowie
    @AmbroseBoaBowie Рік тому

    Hot Tamolies, the candy, also use the red bug die as coloring

  • @milascave2
    @milascave2 Рік тому +9

    Belize, not far south from the Yucatan was also a place with a lot of bay men. The Bay men were celebrated on St. George's Key Day, the Belizean equivalent of the 4th of July. *I don't know if this is still done.) They way they talked about them, you would think that they were the eqiveiant of George Washinton's armies.
    The reason was that they took the side of the British during a way between Britain and Spain. The British won, and that is why Belize (Formerly British Honduras) became a British colony, and much later, an independent nation. Spain still believed that it was part of their empire, and when Gutamala became an independent nation, they took up the claim, creating a long sort of cold war, during which Guatemalan radio repeatedly said "Beliece es Gutamala," and British troops had to remain stationed there to keep them out. Evan still, I have watched videos about Belize and I still saw a comment that said "Belize is a province of Guatemala."
    The Baymen were, I'm sure, in many ways not good people. But they were the ones who enabled Belize to become a Democratically run British colony, and then an independent nation that was a Democracy, instead of remaining ruled by Spain, and then by Guatemala, which became a brutal Fascist, racist, mass murdering (of Mayans)perhaps even genocidal nation. As they say, even an ill wind always blows somebody some good.

    • @SpanishSkeleton777
      @SpanishSkeleton777 Рік тому

      Baymen killed many mayans in belize near extinction in caste war

  • @Rizzd.Commerce
    @Rizzd.Commerce 11 місяців тому

    Eet zee bugs! Lel gud stufffren

  • @pirategamer9127
    @pirategamer9127 2 роки тому +1

    Next video pirates🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

  • @d_ruggs
    @d_ruggs 27 днів тому

    this sounds a lot like Charles Vane's season 1 plot line in Black Sails. Possible inspiration?

  • @sneakysimian
    @sneakysimian 2 роки тому +8

    Really interesting video, thank you! (having a huge catchup with all of your content!)
    I love learning about all these offshoots of sea rovers and how they all interact. Would you say that these Baymen were the longest lasting loose sub 'group' of rovers during the Golden Ages? They seem to 'make it' through those ages, despite being chase off by the Spanish a number of times, right up to being part of a British Crown Colony in the 19th century.

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +3

      Yeah the different offshoots are very interesting. I'd recommend the video on the boucaniers aswell, they were like the Baymen but hunters instead. It's hard to tell when Baymen and Boucaniers stopped being part-time rovers. By the 1710s, many Baymen sailed to Nassau and became pirates after the Spanish chased them out. On the other hand, many Baymen ships in 1718 were seized by Blackbeard and Bellamy, converted into pirate ships, and the loggers press ganged.

  • @cebfromthestreetsoftorn2886
    @cebfromthestreetsoftorn2886 11 місяців тому

    I'm a little confused on the timeline...When did the Spanish start harvesting logwood? A few years before the English conquest of Jamaica?

  • @ethannash8306
    @ethannash8306 2 роки тому +3

    could you talk about how the early spainish settlers survived or talk about german immigrants

  • @derpanzerjager9899
    @derpanzerjager9899 Рік тому +1

    its ok if you dont want to but it'd be interesting if you covered the "pirate" john paul jones but it might be a stretch

  • @ostrowulf
    @ostrowulf Рік тому +1

    You make being a logwood cutter sound pretty bad... but then I look at my life and career choices in this life and think "yeah... that is likely where I would end up." Don't get me wrong, I would likely bitch about the crappy things, but hard self motivated work where you don't have a boss looking after you. Weird creatures trying to kill you in lands you don't fully understand, and having to be proficient with a gun, that actually describes more of my life than I want to admit to myself.

  • @TheWonkster
    @TheWonkster Рік тому

    Alligators are extremely docile unless there's something wrong with it. You've got little to fear unless its extremely hungry or too sick to hunt something bigger and dumber than you.

  • @lmvath211
    @lmvath211 Рік тому +2

    California maritime… all ya got. Capes to cascades and up the Colorado.

    • @lmvath211
      @lmvath211 Рік тому

      Love the sound, style and images of your presentation! Nice set up

  • @jeffreyrobinson3555
    @jeffreyrobinson3555 2 роки тому +1

    Sorry, didn’t understand, how was the life OOD used with a flintlock

  • @DingoAteMeBaby
    @DingoAteMeBaby Рік тому

    I wonder if their hat reflected axe swings.

  • @jordanhicks5131
    @jordanhicks5131 Рік тому +4

    Well, THIS goes on the list of worst jobs ever

  • @swayback7375
    @swayback7375 Рік тому

    Yea sure. Let’s all go live in the tropical swamp and get drunk.
    What do you think the survival rate of that first weekend is?
    60%?
    Let’s call them the lucky ones, shall we?

  • @brookingsbeachcomber
    @brookingsbeachcomber 2 роки тому +1

    Shiver Me Timbers

  • @waynemcauliffe2362
    @waynemcauliffe2362 2 роки тому +2

    Our salt water crocs in Australia would eat up the little gators

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +1

      im sure the australian spiders could eat the yucutan gators

    • @waynemcauliffe2362
      @waynemcauliffe2362 2 роки тому

      @@GoldandGunpowder Yes mate i do too ha ha

    • @phredphlintstone6455
      @phredphlintstone6455 2 роки тому +1

      They guy that patented Louisiana hot sauce holds the record for largest alligator...forget how big, but it was in the 1880s I believe. 24 feet...26? Something like that

    • @waynemcauliffe2362
      @waynemcauliffe2362 2 роки тому +1

      @@phredphlintstone6455 That`s a biggun

  • @Ravishrex1
    @Ravishrex1 2 роки тому +2

    Arrrrrrr

  • @Hoopaball
    @Hoopaball 2 роки тому

    0:44 if I saw that guy he wouldn't see me

  • @1lobster
    @1lobster Рік тому

    Crocodiles are typically larger than alligators. The animals you describe were probably Caiman. Not crocodile.

  • @abramjones9091
    @abramjones9091 Рік тому +3

    please do some videos on how pirates financed their first ships. did they ever use loans, shares, or business contracts with investors?

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  Рік тому +3

      privateers and buccaneers had investors, either merchants or aristocracy, that were owed a share of the acquired plunder. a few privateers-turned pirates had investors, like Henry Jennings, but no one that started out as a man wanted for piracy would be able to get investors, you needed some sort of initial legitimacy

    • @abramjones9091
      @abramjones9091 Рік тому +2

      @@GoldandGunpowder that's very interesting thanks, would love to learn more

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  Рік тому +6

      I want to do a video covering privateering contracts more, but with my current schedule, it might be a while, but there will be other videos that touch on it, especially the video about Captain Kidd whose investors got in a lot of heat

    • @abramjones9091
      @abramjones9091 Рік тому +2

      @@GoldandGunpowder ok thanks, I'm subscribed and will stay tuned

  • @spirospagiatis4731
    @spirospagiatis4731 2 роки тому +4

    Here's my pirate meme :
    An unborn is praying to God : God , please not Tortuga or Port Royal🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏.
    And when the baby is finally born : Doctor.........where am I ?🤨🤨🤨
    Doctor : Nassau !!!!😃😃😃😃🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻

  • @erikthepirate8068
    @erikthepirate8068 2 роки тому +1

    Someone would eat weevils.

  • @theidahotraveler
    @theidahotraveler 2 роки тому +2

    sweet just found you channel and in so happy. gold and gunpower with that name you can do the 100 year Indian war in America or gold rush war videos with the mexicans. hmm cool channel. i have one too check it out if you want thanks.

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +1

      I love North American/Mexican history and the wild west but dont have enough knowledge to cover it and its outside the scope of this channel

    • @theidahotraveler
      @theidahotraveler 2 роки тому +1

      no way I'm from Idaho and i live outside México city. what makes you think you cant do it? did you go to pirate college or something is that why you started this channel?

    • @GoldandGunpowder
      @GoldandGunpowder  2 роки тому +2

      because i take the research seriously and if i'd have to research vastly different topics it would either take a very long time to do, or i wouldn't be able to put so much detailed work in it. some of these videos i make have 6 or more literary sources, its not just shit i google or rip from wikipedia

    • @theidahotraveler
      @theidahotraveler 2 роки тому +1

      @@GoldandGunpowder well i oove your stuff and if you decide to move to another topic when your done with this one if i can help let me know. what other things do you study?

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 Рік тому

    Who cares if about eating bugs? We've always done it. There's an acceptable amount of bug mass in grain, its unavoidable.

  • @5castles893
    @5castles893 Рік тому

    Cross and gators are 2 different animals

  • @erikm8372
    @erikm8372 3 місяці тому

    That’s funny… the crocodilians were the most-feared creatures of the Yucatán Peninsula… nevermind about the jaguars, pumas, and likely historical populations of Mexican wolves & bears (extirpated/extinct since). And that’s not even counting the coralsnakes, rattlesnakes and other vipers! And the invertebrates!! And the diseases! It’s just like the Amazon. Lol.

  • @chris7brook
    @chris7brook Рік тому

    No, I will not eat za bugz.🤠

  • @damhanahdamar8293
    @damhanahdamar8293 2 роки тому

    Please cover the subject of pirates in Asia

  • @calebgrissom8122
    @calebgrissom8122 Рік тому

    You will eat the bugs- in elven

  • @soldiercreekbison
    @soldiercreekbison Рік тому +1

    Based?

  • @joepeek1387
    @joepeek1387 2 роки тому +2

    Nope, 80cm foot worms and shit throwing monkeys. Not for me.

  • @filthism1659
    @filthism1659 Рік тому

    Eat zee bugs!!!