Deep Dive into Lake Country's HDO pads by KDS Keltec
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Lake Country Manufacturing brand ambassador Kelly Harris, a longtime user and supporter of LC pads, created this video to explain the benefits of the HDO pad line. You can see more of Kelly's work on his channel: / @kdskeltectv
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I’m in love with the orange HDO
Thanks for the informative video 🙏🏻
That's great to hear, thanks!
Great video and information as always Mr Kelly. Thank you!
Great video, loads of info on the range
I've tried my fair share of pads and the HDO Pads have certainly been the most durable pads I've ever used, not only that, they work superb.
Awesome feedback, thanks! Have you tried the new CCS variants?
Nice deep dive talk. Very thorough
Much appreciated
What you guys didnt use the dynabrade 61385 19mm orbit DA accessories back in 2007-2011 prior to the rupes bigfoot like i did in australia and some did in the USA. They were awesome defect destroyers.
I've seen those a couple times used by old school body shop guys. You put that big heavy ass metal apparatus on an already big amd heavy ass rotary.. whew. Glad I don't have to muscle that anchor around all day. It's a correction monster though.
Do you know if they made two versions of it? Gear driven and free spin?
@@jdisdetermined yes they did have the random orbital only version and the combination offset rotary (pin locked in place for rotary direct drive) and random orbital. The best power tool to connect these to is the flex stone grinder which is only 2.2kg weight and 1500 watts /30+ nm torque. A high speed monster. Up to 7500 rpm.
@@matthewgibb2640 Wow. I don't see people talking about that tool anymore. Good to see some others talking about it!!
@@bbdetailing9123 yeah definitely. I love anything and everything about the history and evolution of detailing.
Seems like it would be an awesome tool for doing big gel coat jobs, especially if you paired it with a light weight but powerful rotary. I've done some big boats and RVs.. man do those guys earn their money! Especially big boats with that friggin' tapered hull. I give absurdly high estimates on most of those now so I don't have to do alot of them. 😁👍
@@bbdetailing9123 that flex grinder and the dynabrade was amazing. So smooth and immensely powerful
Can you use the hdo on rotary polisher like the flex?
You could. Give it a try and let us know how you get on with it :)
What speed would you recommended on the HDO Orange pad with the Menz medium cut. I have the Carbon Collective 15 mm machine. Also what speed with same pad & compound, but 3” pad on a 9 mm throw machine (so use SDO pad). I currently use speed 4 on both machines?
Hi Peter, this is Jay B from the UK facility.
The speed required comes down to your personal technique and the task at hand, because the rate of material removal will be determined primarily by three combined factors: pressure, cut (abrasive characteristics of the pad and compound), and tool speed. Having more or less of one affects how much you want, or need, of the others, and the key is to find a good balance.
Kelly and I use a technique that generally involves lower-than-average speeds, but higher-than-average tool pressure, and this is a style that suits us (and has done during 1000's of full correction details) because we find it allows us to reap the benefits of the compound's abrasives quickly, and also diminish it more thoroughly, resulting in a more efficient workflow. Another pro detailer might come along and ultimately achieve similar results but with a different technique. In fact Jim White of White Details did just that before Christmas when he came here for a guest feature. His machines tended to be running faster than ours, but instead he wasn't pushing - or in other words using as much pressure - as we would. Don't get the wrong idea, we're not trying to bend the car!
Ultimately most orbital polishers don't need to be run at top speed to be effective, and just like a car engine at the redline - you can hear when it's being needlessly thrashed. Aim to go as fast as feels stable and comfortable, likely somewhere around 2/3rds of the way up the speed dial, and be guided by your progress. If you're not sure, stop your passes early to check what you've achieved and then potentially take the opportunity to increase or decrease your cut (change pad / polish materials), pressure (adjust how firmly you apply the machine), or speed accordingly. Pro tip though: while you're learning, change only one variable at a time, so you can properly assess your findings.
@@LakeCountryManufacturing Thanks for your response Jay and the level of detail ( see what I did there). I guess machine Polishing is really open to what works best for the user and understanding what the defects are? Most of what I do is a single stage just to enhance the paint prior to LSP. I only work on friends and family, so know the paint well enough. They have all had the full ( as best as I can ) 2 stage, so really only get a light buff after a decon and reapply LSP.
Great feedback though, think I will get a couple of test panels and play about with them based on your advice and see if it works for me. At the moment I usually go to about speed 3-1/2 to 4 with light pressure, it gets the desired results. 👍🏻
For the Makita po5000c wath pads you recommend?
Force pads
can any one order a catalog like the one in the video?
I can give you the online copy of our updated one right now! vczb8476vox24zn4x2nnesml-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/LCM-Catalog.pdf
A lots of quality info that i always appreciate but what's up with the crappy audio man lake country doesn't have enough money to buy a quality microphone or what?
Sorry about that, the team who made this video are/were pro-detailers, not experienced AV techs. Still learning! But that's part of what we hope makes our content just a little more authentic - the guy behind the camera, in the editing suite, even writing this comment, has been a pro detailer working with Kelly for over a decade. We're glad you got the quality info at least :)