It would be fun to test a few intake elbows on this truck and see what each one does or does not change to the overall performance of the engine. Any suggestions on which intake elbows should make the cut?
Man I'm waiting for the PDD diesel competition videos again, Them the only videos that'll make me walk to my Neighbors house to steal his cheerios to eat while watching!
Oh very much. The ride wouldnt be exciting without bumps! Case in point: i recently dropped an intake horn washer in my intake plenum and ran the truck... after discovering the horrid rattle i uncovered my stupidity. This merely allowed me to justify taking the head off and porting it, buying studs, a steedspeed manifold, puahrods and springs from you guys. Hoorah for stupidity!
Myer can attest, it was well worth it... but it does require a substantial amount of time and $$$. If you do it, pick a clean enough truck that you wouldn't mind keeping around for 10+ years!
Dude your 2nd Gen is bad to the bone! I especially love the quick disconnect engineering of the harnesses. I have always thought that's what all vehicles should have period. I am just getting started on the 94 I inherited from my Dad when he passed, but when I have my money saved up I will be seeing you guys. But I send everyone I know with Diesels to PDD. My buddy just got his Trans done on his Black truck and he is happy as a clam, he hauls a lot of heavy equipment. You guys knocked it out of the park!
@@pddofficial I am very stoked about it. I am hoping to put it around 600 hp and 1200 torque and still be not too bad on fuel. I am thinking that with that kind of power I will need a triple converter and a PDD flex plate as well as the panoff upgrade too. We will see what my budget dictates lol.
If you guys have any old compound pipes and turbos laying around I’ll take them. No storage fees at all.Keep up the awesome work, loved the transmission innovation. Love the channel.
Right on Mer, good to see you rehabbing good, spare upgrade parts and engineering some fresh, quick connect ideas. You know, in your spare time lol...............cuz you live it 24/365! Can't wait to see it rip up some track
Can you guys build an engine using the Speed of Air pistons, the dimpled ones, and either prove or disprove their claims? I've seen some dyno stuff on a Powerstroke and read some testimonials but I would really like to see what you all think.
No need to have us do the project, start on the smaller/easier tasks as your time and budget allow and you'll soon become accustomed to making your truck exactly how you want it!
@pddofficial I've already had a mechanic reseal the whole drive train, pulled the body off to powder coat the frame. I'm chasing leaks here and there still. At some point I'm thinking full rebuild because I'm chasing leaks. The steering is suggestive still even though everything is new.
@tacticalhandyman710 you will always be chasing leaks on a 2nd gen. Bought my truck with right at 100k miles on it years ago, and tried repeatedly to make her leak free.....longest I was ever able to go was 2months without something dripping.
I can see PDD's new package on their website! A quick disconnect package for your engine! Lol! Just need to work with a supplier to build one for the fuel lines and off you go!
It's still around, terrorizing the dyno circuit from time to time. Rumor has it, the shorty might make a big debut in Phoenix at that NHRDA race for the dyno event... just a rumor at this point!
@@pddofficial do you have specific videos on this truck and it's changes? I'm thinking I need to build one , I have a spare cummins that needs to breath fire again ...
For motor mounts you'd want to source 98.5-2002 motor mounts since the 24v mounts are a little different than the 12v mounts despite the frame being essentially identical from 1994 thru 2002. Then you could run any 24v block, but most choose the 6.7 to get the displacement and block strength.
@@pddofficial I'm going to have a spare rebuilt 2004.5 5.9 Cummins pretty soon. I'm thinking of swapping it into my squarebody as is because of how great it is stock. Personally it's been the best engine I've ever had; ultra reliable, mega torque, and 18-20 MPG. Questions: Would you install it as is? Everyone always wants a 12 valve. I've heard the injectors don't last as long as the 12 valve ones do. Would you or can you back-date it and build it as a mechanical 12 valve? Think like the Roadkill Ramp Truck you guys did up. My truck is a 1 ton regular street truck, but it's heavy and towing often. Please and thank you for any insight.
@@pddofficial I didn’t know if y’all were going to bring some to sell or not but if you do and have one for a s&b lml I’ll pick it up if not order online 🤷♂️
I was hoping this was going to be your 2wd truck that you once said you basically upgraded the frame to 3rd gen? I have a 98 2wd that I want to lower a little and upgrade the trans Xmember and and switch to a steering rack ...
That truck is still around! It got a 6.7 swap and is currently waiting for a custom turbo to wreck havoc on the single turbo class on the dyno circuit!
1800 HP fuel-only 12v is pretty difficult to maintain/keep alive. As much as we hate to admit it, radical 13mm pumps capable of 1800 HP and tuned clean are especially rare! 1500 HP fuel-only water cooled 5.9 block based 12V is the current threshold Will's working on making reliable.
@@pddofficial What's a safe, and streetable, hp capable out of a 5.9 w/VP44 ? Guy in my town has a 700HP truck but I don't see it out much. I daily drove 416RWP 20 years ago but I know things have changed , been out of it for a while till recently.
Have you guys ever done a dyno comparison of a banks monster ram and cold air intake vs stock intake and filter right next to a hot turbo? Looks to me like the stock intake and just a K&N off the turbo works just fine:)
It would be an interesting test. On the air filter side, this truck needs a 6" intake to match the inlet of the big 106mm turbo. None of the mass produced air filter/intake kits would fit so it would be a less than ideal test scenario. However, we could test intake elbows at the cylinder head intake plenum. Those would bolt up for the most part and could be reliably tested.
We've been interested in trying them to see what, if any real world benefits could be measured. We've all seen claims of 100 MPG carburetors and yet, they still don't exist. If the claimed 20% efficiency gain was real, this technology would have been bought up by a large auto manufacturer and utilized to give them a leg up on the competition. However, is it possible that there are other benefits like reduced idle haze, marginally faster turbo spoolup, even a mild 3% efficiency of power gain with some other not yet known tradeoff? We'd like to know so we'd definitely like to test the technology and see what it does or does not do!
It's not that much more turbo. It has the same GT55 on the atmosphere, but with a 480 on the manifold instead of Todd's 467. The Larger Manifold charger doesn't make a big power difference, it just helps carry the power out further in the RPM range, as well as prevent heat soak going down the track. Todd's tow truck makes about 10-20psi more boost then Scrat, which just shows how much the 96 turbine helps get the exhaust out of the motor. The best I've done with Scat is 1847hp, but I expect to beat that come April 20th! 🤞
Yeah I'm sure it'll make good power and I might get a wild hair up my butt some day, but triples are pretty miserable to work on. Which kinda goes against the nature of the build. Would be sweet though!
Have a question for you I’ve been building my truck when I can I work in the oilfield in Alaska so I don’t get a lot of time at home! Have an 04.5 has the pressure tower springs manton pushrods xdp billet rocker bridges,brand new ddp 150% overs 14mm exergy race pump,FASS 250 pump! And steed speed angled t4 with an aggressor 88! Built trans muldoons fmvb and I haven’t had time to run it yet have 5.9 diesel mm3 tuner at the moment but purchased a mp tuners to dial it in once I get it out of my garage and driving! What do you think the power level could be at with this setup?
Thanks for sharing. I tried the quick connects for the fuel and trans, but had issues with leaks. The o rings react to oils. 7:30 Do they make a 2wd version of those shocks I see the compression rebound adjustments. The Bilstein's I run are valved too loose, but the tightest factory ones I know of. A problem I have been trying to solve since 2018. I just keep getting told to get a 4wd truck. I got several of those too...
There are quite a few off the shelf race shocks that you can make work if you're willing to weld brackets to the axle and frame. The heaviest valved shocks we've come across before you get into custom valved race shocks are the AFCO Big Guns shocks. We believe they will be valved tight enough to control your rear end. If that isn't enough, you should message John at Black Tie Race Fab and get some custom Penske's ordered. Also keep in mind, once you get the $400 per shock retail price level, most shocks can be reworked with different valving to better suit your needs. Strange, AFCO, etc. Just don't go for the cheapest $250 shocks, they usually are not re-valve able.
@@pddofficial Back I have solved. Its the front I am need. If i had a knob on the Bilstein's I would say I need 2 or 3 clicks of each rebound and compression to get the ride perfect. I will visit the fox booth tomorrow and pick their brains. Something off the shelf should exist. I just problem dont have the lingo right.
Gotta love the stock intake horn and 1800hp!
It would be fun to test a few intake elbows on this truck and see what each one does or does not change to the overall performance of the engine. Any suggestions on which intake elbows should make the cut?
Banks, afe, smeding, pusher
@@pddofficial I agree. That would make a great video as people do seem to discuss them quite a bit.
Oh snap. I hope Myer becomes the new Josh. Then I’ll have 3 channels of sweet Cummins knowledge.
Love the quick conects!!just remember to bag those ends,one piece of dirt and youl be pulling your hair out😮
Man I'm waiting for the PDD diesel competition videos again, Them the only videos that'll make me walk to my Neighbors house to steal his cheerios to eat while watching!
Such a badass build! Love the quick disconnects for harness'!
You guys are so awesome stay safe and go fast
Cool, my projects share some of the same titles, such as:
1.Overall project
2. Terrible disaster
It's a common theme.... sometimes the journey is more fun than the destination even if it's a bumpy ride!
Oh very much. The ride wouldnt be exciting without bumps!
Case in point: i recently dropped an intake horn washer in my intake plenum and ran the truck... after discovering the horrid rattle i uncovered my stupidity. This merely allowed me to justify taking the head off and porting it, buying studs, a steedspeed manifold, puahrods and springs from you guys. Hoorah for stupidity!
That headliner is awesome!
Very cool, built very well by the looks!
Ohh yea!!! Love the truck! Ill try to make it to AZ!
Hope to see ya there!
Ive been wanting to do a 6.7 common rail in a second gen forever for S&Gs awesome to see.
Myer can attest, it was well worth it... but it does require a substantial amount of time and $$$. If you do it, pick a clean enough truck that you wouldn't mind keeping around for 10+ years!
Connectors are sick - nice work
Thanks!
Dude your 2nd Gen is bad to the bone! I especially love the quick disconnect engineering of the harnesses. I have always thought that's what all vehicles should have period. I am just getting started on the 94 I inherited from my Dad when he passed, but when I have my money saved up I will be seeing you guys. But I send everyone I know with Diesels to PDD. My buddy just got his Trans done on his Black truck and he is happy as a clam, he hauls a lot of heavy equipment. You guys knocked it out of the park!
We appreciate the support! Hold onto that 94', it's special now and it's going to be even more special as you customize it and make it your own!
@@pddofficial I am very stoked about it. I am hoping to put it around 600 hp and 1200 torque and still be not too bad on fuel. I am thinking that with that kind of power I will need a triple converter and a PDD flex plate as well as the panoff upgrade too. We will see what my budget dictates lol.
Looking good !!!!
If you guys have any old compound pipes and turbos laying around I’ll take them. No storage fees at all.Keep up the awesome work, loved the transmission innovation. Love the channel.
Very nice presentation and very interesting build. You're a natural in front of the camera, very well explained.
Thanks for watching
Looking forward to the videos 👍
More to come!
Soon as i heard common rail i knew it was gonna be good !!
Right on Mer, good to see you rehabbing good, spare upgrade parts and engineering some fresh, quick connect ideas. You know, in your spare time lol...............cuz you live it 24/365! Can't wait to see it rip up some track
That's the plan!
Great content!!! I really like that truck and find this project quite interesting. 👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Can you guys build an engine using the Speed of Air pistons, the dimpled ones, and either prove or disprove their claims? I've seen some dyno stuff on a Powerstroke and read some testimonials but I would really like to see what you all think.
One day I'll have enough spare change to bring my 95 to you guys.
No need to have us do the project, start on the smaller/easier tasks as your time and budget allow and you'll soon become accustomed to making your truck exactly how you want it!
@pddofficial I've already had a mechanic reseal the whole drive train, pulled the body off to powder coat the frame. I'm chasing leaks here and there still. At some point I'm thinking full rebuild because I'm chasing leaks. The steering is suggestive still even though everything is new.
@tacticalhandyman710 you will always be chasing leaks on a 2nd gen. Bought my truck with right at 100k miles on it years ago, and tried repeatedly to make her leak free.....longest I was ever able to go was 2months without something dripping.
I can see PDD's new package on their website! A quick disconnect package for your engine! Lol! Just need to work with a supplier to build one for the fuel lines and off you go!
Luv it!
You guys have GOTTA do a stock vs aftermarket intake comparison!!!!!!
Do you think the UA-cam community would like to see an intake elbow shootout?
Nice job , nice truck , your a monster !!
Thanks 👍 Appreciate the support!
That's bad ass the quick connections are great ideas for everything. Might steal that idea for the main harnesses from you.
We share knowledge to make everyone win! If it makes your truck easier to work on, use it!
That's why I also use all your products
Nice video, fun truck you have
Thanks 👍
What ever happened to your new 24v injectors that gave the best of both worlds? Not being an axx, i have and love your transmission..
Nice cross member. 🙃
What?! No Banks intake horn?! What about air density?!
How soon until that new transmission is out? I need a 48 swap soon.
I love the build, what happened to the shotty or shorty?
It's still around, terrorizing the dyno circuit from time to time. Rumor has it, the shorty might make a big debut in Phoenix at that NHRDA race for the dyno event... just a rumor at this point!
@@pddofficial do you have specific videos on this truck and it's changes? I'm thinking I need to build one , I have a spare cummins that needs to breath fire again ...
Nice truck
Thanks 👍
Love the content!
Curious: how intricate was it to swap the 6.7 in? Motor mounts?
The blocks are the same, it bolts right in, it's all down to electrical and plumbing.
For motor mounts you'd want to source 98.5-2002 motor mounts since the 24v mounts are a little different than the 12v mounts despite the frame being essentially identical from 1994 thru 2002. Then you could run any 24v block, but most choose the 6.7 to get the displacement and block strength.
@@pddofficial
I'm going to have a spare rebuilt 2004.5 5.9 Cummins pretty soon. I'm thinking of swapping it into my squarebody as is because of how great it is stock. Personally it's been the best engine I've ever had; ultra reliable, mega torque, and 18-20 MPG.
Questions:
Would you install it as is? Everyone always wants a 12 valve.
I've heard the injectors don't last as long as the 12 valve ones do. Would you or can you back-date it and build it as a mechanical 12 valve?
Think like the Roadkill Ramp Truck you guys did up. My truck is a 1 ton regular street truck, but it's heavy and towing often.
Please and thank you for any insight.
Hell yeah I’m glad you guys will be coming down to phx. Will you guys have air filters?
We now have filters in-stock and/or we can bring some if you need a local pickup.
@@pddofficial I didn’t know if y’all were going to bring some to sell or not but if you do and have one for a s&b lml I’ll pick it up if not order online 🤷♂️
Hit up our sales team so they can help you out with finalizing this! 435-962-9555 x 800 or info@powerdrivendiesel.com.
I was hoping this was going to be your 2wd truck that you once said you basically upgraded the frame to 3rd gen? I have a 98 2wd that I want to lower a little and upgrade the trans Xmember and and switch to a steering rack ...
That truck is still around! It got a 6.7 swap and is currently waiting for a custom turbo to wreck havoc on the single turbo class on the dyno circuit!
Nice!
Hell yah.
Pretty awesome but I was disappointed it wasn't a 12 valve. Still awesome.
1800 HP fuel-only 12v is pretty difficult to maintain/keep alive. As much as we hate to admit it, radical 13mm pumps capable of 1800 HP and tuned clean are especially rare! 1500 HP fuel-only water cooled 5.9 block based 12V is the current threshold Will's working on making reliable.
@@pddofficial What's a safe, and streetable, hp capable out of a 5.9 w/VP44 ? Guy in my town has a 700HP truck but I don't see it out much. I daily drove 416RWP 20 years ago but I know things have changed , been out of it for a while till recently.
Have you guys ever done a dyno comparison of a banks monster ram and cold air intake vs stock intake and filter right next to a hot turbo? Looks to me like the stock intake and just a K&N off the turbo works just fine:)
It would be an interesting test. On the air filter side, this truck needs a 6" intake to match the inlet of the big 106mm turbo. None of the mass produced air filter/intake kits would fit so it would be a less than ideal test scenario. However, we could test intake elbows at the cylinder head intake plenum. Those would bolt up for the most part and could be reliably tested.
Engine and trans removal faster than dominos can get your pizza order to your door 👍
So far Myer hasn't needed to remove anything, but race season is upon us and with 1800HP on-tap, something is surely going to need attention!
How do you clean up the engine bay like that? Did you delete the ecm and all electronics?
This one was all custom done by Meyer.
Any input on those speed of air pistons? Would love to see you guys test them and maybe see if something you would carry in stock?
We've been interested in trying them to see what, if any real world benefits could be measured. We've all seen claims of 100 MPG carburetors and yet, they still don't exist. If the claimed 20% efficiency gain was real, this technology would have been bought up by a large auto manufacturer and utilized to give them a leg up on the competition. However, is it possible that there are other benefits like reduced idle haze, marginally faster turbo spoolup, even a mild 3% efficiency of power gain with some other not yet known tradeoff? We'd like to know so we'd definitely like to test the technology and see what it does or does not do!
Interesting it’s only 400 more horse than Todd’s daily but with twice as much turbo. Seems like it must need more cam.
It's not that much more turbo. It has the same GT55 on the atmosphere, but with a 480 on the manifold instead of Todd's 467. The Larger Manifold charger doesn't make a big power difference, it just helps carry the power out further in the RPM range, as well as prevent heat soak going down the track. Todd's tow truck makes about 10-20psi more boost then Scrat, which just shows how much the 96 turbine helps get the exhaust out of the motor. The best I've done with Scat is 1847hp, but I expect to beat that come April 20th! 🤞
@@CumminsWorksMy bad I thought Todd had an 88 for the atmo. Personally I think a pair of 88s for atmos would go great with your 80 manifold.😊
Yeah I'm sure it'll make good power and I might get a wild hair up my butt some day, but triples are pretty miserable to work on. Which kinda goes against the nature of the build. Would be sweet though!
dont trim the hood stack, its part of the character of the truck
okay mom its his truck he’ll do what he wants
What compression ratio is this motor
Stock Mahle ISB just like Cummins factory 2010 pistons.
Have a question for you I’ve been building my truck when I can I work in the oilfield in Alaska so I don’t get a lot of time at home! Have an 04.5 has the pressure tower springs manton pushrods xdp billet rocker bridges,brand new ddp 150% overs 14mm exergy race pump,FASS 250 pump! And steed speed angled t4 with an aggressor 88! Built trans muldoons fmvb and I haven’t had time to run it yet have 5.9 diesel mm3 tuner at the moment but purchased a mp tuners to dial it in once I get it out of my garage and driving! What do you think the power level could be at with this setup?
Are you running just a big single?
@@pddofficial yeah I was going to run a shot a juice to get it spoiled up if need be it’s just a track truck is all I’m using it for
@@pddofficial spooled
sleeved block or true 6.7?
True 6.7! Cast pistons.... essentially a tow truck engine with upgraded rods and fasteners!
@@pddofficial that’s what i like to hear! i have a slightly higher hp setup with 500% and a 485/107 compounds. this poor old block has me worried 🤣
Thanks for sharing. I tried the quick connects for the fuel and trans, but had issues with leaks. The o rings react to oils.
7:30 Do they make a 2wd version of those shocks I see the compression rebound adjustments. The Bilstein's I run are valved too loose, but the tightest factory ones I know of. A problem I have been trying to solve since 2018. I just keep getting told to get a 4wd truck. I got several of those too...
There are quite a few off the shelf race shocks that you can make work if you're willing to weld brackets to the axle and frame. The heaviest valved shocks we've come across before you get into custom valved race shocks are the AFCO Big Guns shocks. We believe they will be valved tight enough to control your rear end. If that isn't enough, you should message John at Black Tie Race Fab and get some custom Penske's ordered. Also keep in mind, once you get the $400 per shock retail price level, most shocks can be reworked with different valving to better suit your needs. Strange, AFCO, etc. Just don't go for the cheapest $250 shocks, they usually are not re-valve able.
@@pddofficial Back I have solved. Its the front I am need. If i had a knob on the Bilstein's I would say I need 2 or 3 clicks of each rebound and compression to get the ride perfect. I will visit the fox booth tomorrow and pick their brains. Something off the shelf should exist. I just problem dont have the lingo right.
How you wire the 6.7 ?
It requires a 2003+ 24v Cummins harness and factory ECM of your choice.
What head? Stock? Ported?
It's a PDD Stage 2 24v CNC Ported Head: powerdrivendiesel.com/product/pdd-cnc-ported-street-series-5-9l-6-7l-cummins-cylinder-head-24-valve-common-rail-bundle/
MURR
Stealing forklift connects from work to go home and do that
Luckily the shop fork lifts are all propane powered... otherwise, that dog might hunt!
Thats a dodge not a cummins. You kids and your baby diesels. Do 14 liters and over
We'd make a healthy wager this "baby" Cummins makes triple the HP and double the torque of your beloved 14 liters of fury!
As soon as I heard common rail I quit watching
Don’t worry, Will’s got 12v stuff coming soon.