Thank you Lyle and thank you Chuck. That was a great gift. That Mill, cutters and spacers was an amazing gift. The viewers always blow me away with their generosity. Great job Lyle👍
Thank you Steve. I am glad to see that you got the mill running. It looks cold in your shop. I shot this video two months ago. I do not go out in my garage during winter
I was perplexed why you say you would buy some harbour spacers and not just make some? Surely they are very easy drill and cutoff to size then keyway few at a time on shaper. Merry Christmas and hope you're new year is to Steve. 👍
@@mealex303 The spacers are made from very high quality steel that's heat-treated and ground. Not something that could be made at anywhere near the cost of buying them used. But yes, I would make one here and there as needed. 👍
I never had the luck to work in any shop that had a horizontal mill only vertical ones. So please Mr Pete, keep the videos coming featuring this amazing machine 👍🙂
Brought back good memories I have of making a 6 inch bull gear and a rack and pinion 3 inch pinion and 6 inch rack to match on a big old war surplus Cincinnati horizontal mill at Miami U Ohio back in’71 while competing an Industrial Arts Education degree. Love your videos and great work. Gary L Peters, I was also "Mr Pete" for 30 some years.
I'm a retired welder, so I know jack squat about running machines although I once operated a P&J horizontal lathe for about 6 months. My training was here's the start button. Here's the stop, and that was it. Set ups was a nightmare. I hated that job. If I would have had a mentor such as you, I very well could have been a retired machine operator today.
Much better looking nuts than what you had. I love the Clausing mill. A horizontal mill is all I ever used in my training back in the '60s. Performed some very accurate work with that mill. Thank you Tubalcain. Loved the video.
Great Video Mr Pete. Making T nuts was our first project on a big Cincinnati Horz. Mill in my High School Machine Trades class circa 1974. As you said we made dozens with the straddle e set up. I always "stake" the last few threads at the bottom of ALL T nuts, so that the stud or bolt doesn't protrude...the force can bust out a cast machine T slot.
Great video, very well explained. You've given me information here that I was reluctant to ask when I worked in the shops. Now I have a little Clarke lathe / vertical milling head my shed to set up, so I'm getting back into it again.
Yes this is the actual cutting video we have been waiting to see it cut. Mrpete when young I ran a Milwaukee Model K? power mill cutting if memory serves me still was 16 slots using 32 cutters (teacher taught us the gang milling name today) on the horizontal mill bigger then the mill you have yes but principal of your two cutters are doing cutting 7075 aluminum wing hinge part for F/A-18 fighter jet in late 1970 through mid 1980's (job shop). If we recall in time you will need all of those shims spacers and not always just the bigger spacers like jo blocks stacking to get the spacing right. We too enjoy Randy Richards.
I am glad you liked it. I have been watching a lot of your videos lately. I really like them. I seldom comment, because I watch them on my smart TV. Your lighting is very good. Are you familiar with the Cameron Micro drill press? I have two of them. I recently removed the chuck on one There is a video forthcoming.
@@mrpete222 We do like it Lyle this is Lance by the way, it brought up memories from my machining youth that I shared in the post. We are so happy you are liking our videos we are new to making them but old to watching all of you great UA-cam video makers, we just wanted to share our decades of knowledge (the good and the bad) because you all show such passion in your work we thought hey we can do this and be a member of this great sharing community of UA-camrs. You mr.pete have one giant and detailed school of information on your channel, you really do. Patrick is really familiar with this maker of drill presses, in business since I was 1 in 1964 they use the Bodine Motors (we are huge Bodine motor fans) even to this day and they are PROUDLY made in the USA. We do not nor have we ever owned a Cameron Micro Drill Press so we know of them and have not run one (you have two, you have like two of everything) Lyle they are a very popular maker for specific industries. The video you are making about the chuck removal will be truly exciting I mean why not you have not let us down yet. Thank you mr.pete, lyle, tubalcain for being our digital friend. We understand the TV viewing thing (we are very happy knowing you are watching and you like it:). We use to TV watch only one guy Double Boost in England a Sunday evening (TV night) thing to laugh about. Sorry for the length here this is our personal email info@activeatom.com
This is good information for those of us who haven’t seen much horizontal milling. Now that I got my full sized vertical mill I will set up my Hardinge mill for horizontal milling. I have done very little horizontal milling on it!
The only time i did this was during my apprenticeship. I had 5 circular saws installed on an arbor, 2.5mm wide with 15mm spacers appart. I was parting brass blocks at an angle, which were clamped in a special jig. I made thousands of these. Thanks for showing this operation.
I have to admit that I was really confused about how that mill worked. Now I understand.Back in the 60's I remember some articles in "HotRod" magazine about milling cylinder heads. This would have been an ideal milling machine for that purpose. Thanks Mrpete. Great video.
Very interested in seeing the horizontal setups I have a well over 100 year old B&S universal mill . Thanks for helping keep this information around for younger guys like myself to learn.
CNC may be the way to go for productivity, but you 'olde school' guys figured things out long ago that would make a modern machinist's head spin! Looking at your new oil 'can' (great idea, and well done!) I was reminded that my step-dad kept a can of bacon grease on top of the furnace in the shop (plenty of that in my house growing up) and he used that for cutting oil? He said it stuck to the work better and produced a superior finish. Sure made the shop smell great! Idunno. Just saying, you olde guys...! Hope you had a good Christmas!
That is an awesome milling machine . I am planning to build me one close to the size of that one . I want a horizontal for certain operations as you know some are easier on horizontal vs vertical. Awesome job of explaining details of the machine.
Great video. I would like to add how much I appreciate the safety advice too, and especially the variety of safety related posters you always show at the start of your videos. Thank you and best wishes for 2019.
That is a neat little mill, it is a handy size for the home shop. I seen a while back Randy’s 3D printed spill proof oil cups on his channel. I’m amazed to see what can be done with those printers, however it appears to me one needs to have a CAD design capability to get the most out of a 3D printer
As always, thanks for the videos and inspiration! This series just may be enough for me to get that old Brown & Sharpe Model 1 1/2 belt-driven (which the previous owner converted to electric drive running a motor through a Model A transmission - a great way to get 'variable' gear reduction!) 'General Purpose' horizontal mill making chips 110 years after it was made. Fist project: T-nuts!
@@mrpete222 Yup, the second one was only located 4 hrs away from the first and was going to go to the scrapper if unsold... it even had the universal head and crane on it. For the same reason many shops have multiple BP mills that share tooling, I snagged them both. Only 70 serial numbers apart from the late 1950's. Thanks Mr Pete for your many years of tutelage!
Thank you. You covered the setup very well. On my horizontal mill, with the same type of straddle milling operation, Mr Bozo once showed up because the spacer was the right width but the distance between the cutter teeth was less. It turns out the cutter teeth were wider than the cutter middle part where the spacer touch. Now, I always check the actual distance between cutters. Daniel
Yet another great tutorial Mr Pete, but had it been me doing that, I would have done a lot more to save doing the whole laborious setup in the future, thanks for videoing, editing and posting....I look forward to more of the same.....10/10
Worked in a 65 man maintenance shop that had 2 what they called horizontal milling machines. Only around 4 guys would use them. Had 2 bridgeports & 5 lathes that got a lotbof use. Now with the fancy advanced computer run CNC mills do any shops ever purchase a new machine like you showed?. A life long sparky who always appreciated what a machnist or tool & die shop could make.
@@mrpete222 You are so right. While performing electrical work in a large machine shop a 18 year old complained that he should be getting just under a machnist pay because he attended machine shop 4 hours a week for 3 years while in high school. He was bragging how he could run up to 3 CNC machines ny himself. Asked him if he can perform & program set ups. Of course not. He got mad when I told him at best was only a machine operator. I started working with my sparky dad around age of 10 then never looked back. Me & another 10 grade electric shop student rewired a 3 story house by ourselves. Remember after returning to my old job after serving in the Army. I was installing conduit and troubleshooting by myself. When I asked boss for a raise he said kid I might be able to give you a nickel more in a few months. Told him forget it then only performed helpers work. After some production bosses complained that I was good at troubleshooting did I receive a sizeable raise.
Ahh, Blackburn's Butter Pecan Syrup, made in Jefferson, Texas since the 1860's, We by it by the case to share with our friends who live where it is not available. Think I will cut my regular cutting fluid with it 3:1 and still get smell and "essence". Great job on the horizontal--have not run one since 1960 in high school shop.
I constantly see machinists using brushes to apply cutting oil to the work pieces, have done so myself many times until I used a self oiler to apply a drop at a given rate, for adequate lubrication of the work, it freed me from the issue of over oiling and waste of oil, but never occasioned my intervention except for the start and stop of the process I'm surprised more machinists do not use this simple and efficient method!!
Thanks for another one Mr. Pete! Good to see the horizontal making chips. I've got to make some T-nuts for the stops on my Bridgeport soon, but don't guess I'll try to do straddle milling on it, though with enough backflips I suppose it could be done. lol Happy New Year!
Another thorough video. I like the size of this mill as it would fit in my shop better than the big ones like several people have. At about 10:05 you mentioned using the arbor support. Would that work with the vise currently installed with the end hanging over the table? Would you do a video on work holding options for these mills? I seems you have to think differently for some operations. Thanks.
I have a MaxaMat V10 with mill head. It does not have the 2 shaft braces to hold the end of the arbor. I think it should be possible to do a similar type operation with it if I can find an arbor an 2 cutters.
I own a Kearney and Trecker 2hl universal horizontal.. I bought a hold down kit for a Bridgeport with 1/2-13 studs, nuts, etc.. The K&T has 11/16" tee slots so I wound up gang milling a strip to make several nuts...After they were finished, I case hardened them with kasenite to make them more durable...Mike in Louisiana (Ramsay 1)
Always a pleasure get your knowledge Mr. Pete thanks for sharing! But I have a question, ¿it is possible to reduce some set up time by putting several cutters in the same arbor?
Nice! Did think that the mill, 8540 as well, that I've been helping a friend with had drilled and tapped holes in the table so that the fixed stops were not moveable. Maybe someone did that as a precaution??? Nice demonstration of balancing set up time with part quality and ease of operation. Thanks.
wow love some of your shows this one I like .. I started out on old machine like the one but larger , made gears . Key way all of the machine in shop were older then me worked their for 14 yr .
I liked it... will the T-nuts fit the slots on top the table also? i assume they will. Maybe having 6 or 8 more would be nice on hand for setting up things that won't be held in the vice?
A question It looks like your cutters have approximately 20 teeth. With speed of 115rpm and feed of .85ipm, that means a chip load of between 3 and 4 tenths. Is that about right? It's significantly less than I'd have expected, but I've never touched a horizontal mill.
I think horizontal milling is great, it leaves a great finish compared to vertical milling, the machines and cutters are cheap, and anytime i have horizontal milled, i was impressed how quickly and quietly it could hog off big amounts of material.
Why do the cutting wheels appear to be rotating in the opposite direction? I understand the camera strobe effect that can make something look like it is going in the opposite direction of its' actual travel. But why would one appear to be going one way and the other opposite?
The horizontal is the machine I disliked the most because it is so dangerous. I glad Mr. Pete brought that up. I used to work on the lathe a lot which is also dangerous, but I was never scared of it. The horizontal scared the crap out of me! I did learn to respect it though. Lyle, was that a joke about the Maple Syrup? Thanks for the video. It brought back some memories.
not sure when you will get this Mr. P. I seen your ebay video , I have no way of buying on that deal. I would love to have something that the great tubalcain owned. I know you have about 10 of everything, but I'm the same way. I bought a walker turner drill press like the one you have, its a 1944 model year. I noticome of youred you have to micro drill press's, boy would I like one of them, I know you probably have a million people that would like to tha have some of your tools, if that day comes you can name your price. Thank you Lyle for all you do.
You mentioned that this was conventional milling vs climb milling. Basically, for climb milling the cutters would be turned around so they were hitting the top surface first (and the rotation of the machine reversed), correct? Why would you want to use one type versus the other?
Mr Pete did you do anything to the bottom of the tapped hole to keep the stud from going through or just tap all the way through. Is there a way to close off that last thread after you tap it
You mention, almost as an aside, that you used conventional milling vs climb milling. Why? Was it because of the potential for backlash on the lead screw for this older machine? or just because. I can't help but think you have a pondered reason for this angle of attack. Personally, I would have done a climb cut. May be you have discussed this at length in past classes but I'm not sure how to search my notes to find the lesson. I would have missed the question on a test. All the best, -- Joe
Great video mrpete! I was wondering why you chose to do conventional milling rather than climb milling? In my beginner mind I would have thought that feeding from L to R would pull up on the work piece as opposed to R to L to force the piece down into the vise which is what I would have (wrongfully) done lol As Always Two Thumbs Up Sir!!! Love ALL your videos !
Thank you Lyle and thank you Chuck. That was a great gift. That Mill, cutters and spacers was an amazing gift. The viewers always blow me away with their generosity. Great job Lyle👍
Thank you Steve. I am glad to see that you got the mill running. It looks cold in your shop. I shot this video two months ago. I do not go out in my garage during winter
I was perplexed why you say you would buy some harbour spacers and not just make some? Surely they are very easy drill and cutoff to size then keyway few at a time on shaper. Merry Christmas and hope you're new year is to Steve. 👍
@@mealex303 Arbor spacers are hardened and ground to be perfectly square to the axis.
Couldn't say it better myself.
@@mealex303 The spacers are made from very high quality steel that's heat-treated and ground. Not something that could be made at anywhere near the cost of buying them used.
But yes, I would make one here and there as needed. 👍
I never had the luck to work in any shop that had a horizontal mill only vertical ones. So please Mr Pete, keep the videos coming featuring this amazing machine 👍🙂
Yes, I will
Brought back good memories I have of making a 6 inch bull gear and a rack and pinion 3 inch pinion and 6 inch rack to match on a big old war surplus Cincinnati horizontal mill at Miami U Ohio back in’71 while competing an Industrial Arts Education degree. Love your videos and great work. Gary L Peters, I was also "Mr Pete" for 30 some years.
Thank you for watching
Excellent video.
This type of mill is often ignored, but you have shown its benefits,perfectly.
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I'm a retired welder, so I know jack squat about running machines although I once operated a P&J horizontal lathe for about 6 months. My training was here's the start button. Here's the stop, and that was it. Set ups was a nightmare. I hated that job. If I would have had a mentor such as you, I very well could have been a retired machine operator today.
Yes, it sure helps if someone shows you
@phdfxwg Fischercat rocket chickens :)
Nice video. That is the smallest heavy duty looking horizontal mill I've ever have seen. What a sweet looking machine. Thanks for the demonstration.
It really is a neat machine. I have four videos coming out on it soon. I am in the middle of making them now
Much better looking nuts than what you had. I love the Clausing mill. A horizontal mill is all I ever used in my training back in the '60s. Performed some very accurate work with that mill. Thank you Tubalcain. Loved the video.
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Great Video Mr Pete. Making T nuts was our first project on a big Cincinnati Horz. Mill in my High School Machine Trades class circa 1974. As you said we made dozens with the straddle e set up. I always "stake" the last few threads at the bottom of ALL T nuts, so that the stud or bolt doesn't protrude...the force can bust out a cast machine T slot.
Good advice - will keep that in mind when I'm making some for my small mill!
Great vid, Mr Pete, hope you had a great christmas & looking forward to seeing a lot of videos from you this new year!
Happy new year Tony
Great video, very well explained. You've given me information here that I was reluctant to ask when I worked in the shops. Now I have a little Clarke lathe / vertical milling head my shed to set up, so I'm getting back into it again.
Yes this is the actual cutting video we have been waiting to see it cut. Mrpete when young I ran a Milwaukee Model K? power mill cutting if memory serves me still was 16 slots using 32 cutters (teacher taught us the gang milling name today) on the horizontal mill bigger then the mill you have yes but principal of your two cutters are doing cutting 7075 aluminum wing hinge part for F/A-18 fighter jet in late 1970 through mid 1980's (job shop). If we recall in time you will need all of those shims spacers and not always just the bigger spacers like jo blocks stacking to get the spacing right. We too enjoy Randy Richards.
I am glad you liked it. I have been watching a lot of your videos lately. I really like them. I seldom comment, because I watch them on my smart TV. Your lighting is very good. Are you familiar with the Cameron Micro drill press? I have two of them. I recently removed the chuck on one There is a video forthcoming.
@@mrpete222 We do like it Lyle this is Lance by the way, it brought up memories from my machining youth that I shared in the post. We are so happy you are liking our videos we are new to making them but old to watching all of you great UA-cam video makers, we just wanted to share our decades of knowledge (the good and the bad) because you all show such passion in your work we thought hey we can do this and be a member of this great sharing community of UA-camrs.
You mr.pete have one giant and detailed school of information on your channel, you really do. Patrick is really familiar with this maker of drill presses, in business since I was 1 in 1964 they use the Bodine Motors (we are huge Bodine motor fans) even to this day and they are PROUDLY made in the USA. We do not nor have we ever owned a Cameron Micro Drill Press so we know of them and have not run one (you have two, you have like two of everything) Lyle they are a very popular maker for specific industries. The video you are making about the chuck removal will be truly exciting I mean why not you have not let us down yet. Thank you mr.pete, lyle, tubalcain for being our digital friend. We understand the TV viewing thing (we are very happy knowing you are watching and you like it:). We use to TV watch only one guy Double Boost in England a Sunday evening (TV night) thing to laugh about. Sorry for the length here this is our personal email info@activeatom.com
This is good information for those of us who haven’t seen much horizontal milling. Now that I got my full sized vertical mill I will set up my Hardinge mill for horizontal milling. I have done very little horizontal milling on it!
Thank you, I will be showing lots more of it
I was _so relieved_ to see that 1/8th-inch scribe line sitting slightly above your vise jaws at *15:01**!!* _PHEW!!_
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Still enthusiastically watching! THANK YOU!!!!
Congrats for the inaugural run! Must have felt like openning a Christmas present.
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Nice to see the mill making some chips. Seems to be very accurate. That was a very nice gift.
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Very nice. Just goes to show the versatility of horizontal milling machine. Those cutters were very nice too.
Yes thanks
The only time i did this was during my apprenticeship. I had 5 circular saws installed on an arbor, 2.5mm wide with 15mm spacers appart. I was parting brass blocks at an angle, which were clamped in a special jig. I made thousands of these. Thanks for showing this operation.
Sounds like a nice set up
I have to admit that I was really confused about how that mill worked. Now I understand.Back in the 60's I remember some articles in "HotRod" magazine about milling cylinder heads. This would have been an ideal milling machine for that purpose. Thanks Mrpete. Great video.
Thanks
Very interested in seeing the horizontal setups I have a well over 100 year old B&S universal mill . Thanks for helping keep this information around for younger guys like myself to learn.
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Thanks, Mr. Pete, you have become a frequent visitor to my home. I learn something every time. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and knowledge!
I am very pleased to visit your house
CNC may be the way to go for productivity, but you 'olde school' guys figured things out long ago that would make a modern machinist's head spin! Looking at your new oil 'can' (great idea, and well done!) I was reminded that my step-dad kept a can of bacon grease on top of the furnace in the shop (plenty of that in my house growing up) and he used that for cutting oil? He said it stuck to the work better and produced a superior finish. Sure made the shop smell great! Idunno. Just saying, you olde guys...! Hope you had a good Christmas!
Yes, my dad use lard for cutting oil
One of the few gang mill cutting videos I have seen on you tube! Good job!
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Hello Mr Pete aka Tubalcain. I'm Arnie from Queensland Australia. Thanks for your informative vid and style.
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Mr Pete, always great and pleasant spoken videos, a pleasure to watch !
You are a lucky man Mr Peterson to have such a fine machine and with so much very cool tooling. Thanks for sharing.
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That is an awesome milling machine . I am planning to build me one close to the size of that one . I want a horizontal for certain operations as you know some are easier on horizontal vs vertical. Awesome job of explaining details of the machine.
Those first chips were wonderful. How fitting that you made something to be used on the machine itself! Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
Yes lol
I'll never get tired of watching your videos! Great job, and great mill.
Thank you very much
Great video. I would like to add how much I appreciate the safety advice too, and especially the variety of safety related posters you always show at the start of your videos. Thank you and best wishes for 2019.
Thanks
That is a neat little mill, it is a handy size for the home shop. I seen a while back Randy’s 3D printed spill proof oil cups on his channel. I’m amazed to see what can be done with those printers, however it appears to me one needs to have a CAD design capability to get the most out of a 3D printer
Yes, you need CAD capability. I do not have that so other people do it for me
mrpete222 me neither, if I need something in CAD I have a friend local
Always enjoy seeing the new notification from Mr. Pete I know I am about to learn something thank you
Thank you very much
Thanks for the first real run ,learned a lot. This will be very useful when the newest mill is cleaned up and ready to go.
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Best video I have seen for running a horizontal. Thank you.
Thank you, many more to come when the weather warms
As always, thanks for the videos and inspiration! This series just may be enough for me to get that old Brown & Sharpe Model 1 1/2 belt-driven (which the previous owner converted to electric drive running a motor through a Model A transmission - a great way to get 'variable' gear reduction!) 'General Purpose' horizontal mill making chips 110 years after it was made. Fist project: T-nuts!
Yes those old transmissions or mighty handy
I will be doing this soon in my Rockwell 21-122 double duty mill. Thanks for showing how it is done.
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Nice to see this horizontal milling video... I love my two B&S No 2 universal mills!
Wow, you have two of them?
@@mrpete222 Yup, the second one was only located 4 hrs away from the first and was going to go to the scrapper if unsold... it even had the universal head and crane on it. For the same reason many shops have multiple BP mills that share tooling, I snagged them both. Only 70 serial numbers apart from the late 1950's. Thanks Mr Pete for your many years of tutelage!
Thank you. You covered the setup very well. On my horizontal mill, with the same type of straddle milling operation, Mr Bozo once showed up because the spacer was the right width but the distance between the cutter teeth was less. It turns out the cutter teeth were wider than the cutter middle part where the spacer touch. Now, I always check the actual distance between cutters. Daniel
I guess you can never be too careful
Nice job on the mill. Be nice to have one that size, very handy for the shop. Enjoyed.
Thanks Randy. You are doing a great job on the darex. They really are a much better Drill grinder then the lisle.
@@mrpete222 The Darex works great, well worth all the time I have into it. That is a nice little mill.
Yet another great tutorial Mr Pete, but had it been me doing that, I would have done a lot more to save doing the whole laborious setup in the future, thanks for videoing, editing and posting....I look forward to more of the same.....10/10
Loved it! Congrats on getting the Clausing up and running!
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Nice one Mr Pete
I keep trying it, but I'm still undecided about horizontal milling!
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Worked in a 65 man maintenance shop that had 2 what they called horizontal milling machines. Only around 4 guys would use them. Had 2 bridgeports & 5 lathes that got a lotbof use. Now with the fancy advanced computer run CNC mills do any shops ever purchase a new machine like you showed?. A life long sparky who always appreciated what a machnist or tool & die shop could make.
Pretty soon all of the old skills will be gone
@@mrpete222 You are so right. While performing electrical work in a large machine shop a 18 year old complained that he should be getting just under a machnist pay because he attended machine shop 4 hours a week for 3 years while in high school. He was bragging how he could run up to 3 CNC machines ny himself. Asked him if he can perform & program set ups. Of course not. He got mad when I told him at best was only a machine operator. I started working with my sparky dad around age of 10 then never looked back. Me & another 10 grade electric shop student rewired a 3 story house by ourselves. Remember after returning to my old job after serving in the Army. I was installing conduit and troubleshooting by myself. When I asked boss for a raise he said kid I might be able to give you a nickel more in a few months. Told him forget it then only performed helpers work. After some production bosses complained that I was good at troubleshooting did I receive a sizeable raise.
Nothing like 12 cups of coffee and a Mr. Pete video. One day when I grow up I want to be just like you. Thanks for the day after Christmas video.
I am not grown up yet
I don't plan on growing up any time too soon. I'm 55 going on 16 finally.
What en enjoyable way to start my day. Coffee and Mr. Pete. Thank you.
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Ahh, Blackburn's Butter Pecan Syrup, made in Jefferson, Texas since the 1860's, We by it by the case to share with our friends who live where it is not available. Think I will cut my regular cutting fluid with it 3:1 and still get smell and "essence". Great job on the horizontal--have not run one since 1960 in high school shop.
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Always interesting the different ways to preform making parts for job requirements, thank you very much!
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I didnt have apprentiship, but now i can make a tslot nut if i had a horz mill and 10,000 cutters. i thank you chuck for Mr Pete.
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Great machine for cutting keyways in shafts laid directly on the table and clamped down.
Yes, I will be doing that
I constantly see machinists using brushes to apply cutting oil to the work pieces, have done so myself many times until I used a self oiler to apply a drop at a given rate, for adequate lubrication of the work, it freed me from the issue of over oiling and waste of oil, but never occasioned my intervention except for the start and stop of the process I'm surprised more machinists do not use this simple and efficient method!!
Good idea
Thanks for another one Mr. Pete! Good to see the horizontal making chips. I've got to make some T-nuts for the stops on my Bridgeport soon, but don't guess I'll try to do straddle milling on it, though with enough backflips I suppose it could be done. lol Happy New Year!
lol thanks
Nice video. Good way to speed up operations. Not many videos on youtube using that techniques. Thanks Mr.Pete, and Merry Christmas to you too!
I'm glad you liked it
Another thorough video. I like the size of this mill as it would fit in my shop better than the big ones like several people have. At about 10:05 you mentioned using the arbor support. Would that work with the vise currently installed with the end hanging over the table? Would you do a video on work holding options for these mills? I seems you have to think differently for some operations. Thanks.
I am not sure about the arbor support. Have not used it much yet.
I plan on doing a lot more videos on the subject
I have a MaxaMat V10 with mill head. It does not have the 2 shaft braces to hold the end of the arbor. I think it should be possible to do a similar type operation with it if I can find an arbor an 2 cutters.
I own a Kearney and Trecker 2hl universal horizontal.. I bought a hold down kit for a Bridgeport with 1/2-13 studs, nuts, etc.. The K&T has 11/16" tee slots so I wound up gang milling a strip to make several nuts...After they were finished, I case hardened them with kasenite to make them more durable...Mike in Louisiana (Ramsay 1)
Good job, you should have made a video of that
nice to see so chips. love your new toy. a man is only as good as his tools.
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Always a pleasure get your knowledge Mr. Pete thanks for sharing! But I have a question, ¿it is possible to reduce some set up time by putting several cutters in the same arbor?
Happy Christmas Mr Pete. Lovely video!!
Thank you
Nice! Did think that the mill, 8540 as well, that I've been helping a friend with had drilled and tapped holes in the table so that the fixed stops were not moveable. Maybe someone did that as a precaution??? Nice demonstration of balancing set up time with part quality and ease of operation. Thanks.
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I am on the fence with this "straddle cutting"LOL this video was a welcome surprise this morn...
Ouch
@@mrpete222 ahhh me pete...as the old Steve martin's album was titled,,,,"Comedy isn't Pretty".....
Suitable 1st. project making parts for itself. Thanks for the video.
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Great video Mr. Pete! Maybe some time soon we will see Steve Summers using the same method to make t-nuts for his new mill.
I am sure we will
I enjoyed your video very much and look forward to the next one on it
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Thank you for the coffee cup video
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Thanks for another great video. I've learned something new in using my Atlas horizontal Mill.
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Great after Christmas gift. Thank you for what you do.
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wow love some of your shows this one I like .. I started out on old machine like the one but larger , made gears . Key way all of the machine in shop were older then me worked their for 14 yr .
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Very good demonstration and explanation.
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I have to say your video shooting skill is quite good.
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I liked it... will the T-nuts fit the slots on top the table also? i assume they will. Maybe having 6 or 8 more would be nice on hand for setting up things that won't be held in the vice?
I think they are a different size
Lyle, Great Job.
Gary &5-Year-Old Home-Shop-Machinist
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That is a nice little machine. Thanks for the interesting video.
Happy new year
A question
It looks like your cutters have approximately 20 teeth. With speed of 115rpm and feed of .85ipm, that means a chip load of between 3 and 4 tenths. Is that about right? It's significantly less than I'd have expected, but I've never touched a horizontal mill.
I think horizontal milling is great, it leaves a great finish compared to vertical milling, the machines and cutters are cheap, and anytime i have horizontal milled, i was impressed how quickly and quietly it could hog off big amounts of material.
I agree
Looks east to do even if it takes time for the set up. Nice job and thanks. Merry Christmas!
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Why do the cutting wheels appear to be rotating in the opposite direction? I understand the camera strobe effect that can make something look like it is going in the opposite direction of its' actual travel. But why would one appear to be going one way and the other opposite?
Because of the oblique angle of the camera
The horizontal is the machine I disliked the most because it is so dangerous. I glad Mr. Pete brought that up. I used to work on the lathe a lot which is also dangerous, but I was never scared of it. The horizontal scared the crap out of me! I did learn to respect it though. Lyle, was that a joke about the Maple Syrup? Thanks for the video. It brought back some memories.
I do consider it more dangerous than the vertical mill
Hello Why did You determine to run the mill in in a clockwise rotation ? is it the thread tightening direction ?
Thank You Alec
No reason
Another great video mr. Pete thanks
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not sure when you will get this Mr. P. I seen your ebay video , I have no way of buying on that deal. I would love to have something that the great tubalcain owned. I know you have about 10 of everything, but I'm the same way. I bought a walker turner drill press like the one you have, its a 1944 model year. I noticome of youred you have to micro drill press's, boy would I like one of them, I know you probably have a million people that would like to tha have some of your tools, if that day comes you can name your price. Thank you Lyle for all you do.
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You mentioned that this was conventional milling vs climb milling. Basically, for climb milling the cutters would be turned around so they were hitting the top surface first (and the rotation of the machine reversed), correct?
Why would you want to use one type versus the other?
That requires a long explanation. It is covered and one other video someplace
@@mrpete222 I should have gone browsing first :) .Thanks!
Hi Mr Pete,would it be better to have down pressure instead of milling upwards In the vice?
Maybe
Thanks Mr Pete.
What is the advantage of conventional milling over climb milling?
Thanks Mr. Pete!
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Mr Pete did you do anything to the bottom of the tapped hole to keep the stud from going through or just tap all the way through. Is there a way to close off that last thread after you tap it
No, I just use a bolt of the correct links that will not go through
Always love your videos. Wish I had your knowledge!
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Loved the video as usual a great job . Viewing in Alabama
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You mention, almost as an aside, that you used conventional milling vs climb milling. Why? Was it because of the potential for backlash on the lead screw for this older machine? or just because. I can't help but think you have a pondered reason for this angle of attack. Personally, I would have done a climb cut. May be you have discussed this at length in past classes but I'm not sure how to search my notes to find the lesson. I would have missed the question on a test.
All the best,
-- Joe
I think there is too much danger of breaking a cutter on the backlash is taken up
Great video mrpete! I was wondering why you chose to do conventional milling rather than climb milling? In my beginner mind I would have thought that feeding from L to R would pull up on the work piece as opposed to R to L to force the piece down into the vise which is what I would have (wrongfully) done lol As Always Two Thumbs Up Sir!!! Love ALL your videos !
Climb milling can tend to break a cutter
@@mrpete222 Oooh Okay I understand Thanks for clearing that up and the quick response!
Lyle, do the cutting edged need to be in sync or is it ok if they may be clocked a little different from each other?
No
Great show Mr. Pete.
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I liked and enjoyed as always!
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Great video Lyle. Cheers
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Very interesting, thank you for posting this.
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Pete what do you think and know of the Sheldon/ Vernon horizontal mill, just bought one about same size as your clausing, it's the model o,,
Sorry, I never have seen one
Luv dat cutting fluid!....
Thanks for another great video! Have a great new year!
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Lyle nice job thanks for sharing with us
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Hi Lyle,
Good to see it making chips. :-)
Yes