【FGO】Oberon's True Noble Phantasm & Identity - オベロン - Fate/Grand Order
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Oberon's true Noble Phantasm and name from Fate/Grand Order LB6. This video is a spoiler, beware!
#fgo #oberon #lb6
00:00 - Noble Phantasm
00:25 - Identity
00:47 - End Info Card - Ігри
Rough translation of the NP chant
The curtain of night (夜の帳)
The lark of the morning (朝のひばり)
The end of a rotten dream (腐るような夢の終わり)
Suffer in twilight (黄昏を喰らえ)
Lie Like Vortigern
Edit: Listened to it again and there’s an additional bit for the third line that I couldn’t hear, edited to correct it. Makes more sense now as the first three lines in the Japanese rhyme. Thanks to ああ for pointing it out otherwise I wouldn’t have gone back to listen
Aren't the first two his skill names?
Isn't the Lie Like actually Rhy Rhyme? Like his previous NP "Rhy Rhyme Goodfellow"
@@lordwolf1900 pretty sure its Lie Like because you can hear the hard "k" at the middle of him saying his NP. Plus its a cool touch since he's the first Pretender class who I assume are good at Lying
@@bluebullet7 ah, now that you said it, I think u're right. Thanx for pointing it out!
@@lordwolf1900 it's "Lie Like Vortigern."
The ruby text on top of his Noble Phantasm is "rai raiku vo~tiga~n;" if if were like Wry Rhyme Goodfellow, the katakana above the Noble Phantasm would be "rai raimu" instead.
They probably did this on purpose, since the first half is essentially the same.
Good lies are based on the truth instead of being made wholesale.
Fun fact: Oberon's artist Umino Chika has a phobia of bugs. Even then she took references from many books about insects she bought so she could do her best for Oberon. Mad props to her.
source?
@@asianjackass237 famitsu interview
@@bigass3233 Oof, why didn't someone else draw the bugs for her and ask if it's good enough? Or heck, why didn't she just photoshop the bugs?
@@asianjackass237 I imagine she wanted to work on the design herself.
@@asianjackass237 Because she wanted to do it.
Pro: He looks less derpy when he's on my team.
Con: I actually want him on my team now, and he's an SSR.
I love how his voice gets deeper when he says "Lie Like Vortigern".
Man, the class icon for the Pretender is really edgy but cool. Also his new ascension art looks damn nice
"corrupted into Oberon by the Welsh Fairies"
Welp, more reason to dump on the fae doing Oberon dirty like that
tbh if anything I feel Vortigorn has been done more dirty
I think it's the other way around here. That's probably what made him a good person?
@@yokushinoshugosha Ironically enough, it seems like it.
In LB 6 part 1,chapter 6 the Whelsh Fairies mentioned Vortigern!
Does that mean they were trying to warn us?
That would be mind blowing!
Bros
Spoiler (but kinda expected)
There's another dot (like with 5.5) so maybe these things may even be expanded afterwards in a possible 6.5. Also if I get Oberon he's holding 5 Grails for sure.
The manga style he had suddenly works for him. It always felt a bit off, but here it's really fucking good.
I think that’s the point. He was always meant to be a bit off
It reminds me of a children's picture book that gradually turns into a horror story.
@@Maymei99 could you give me the name of that book
Indeed the art looked very childish and not at all Fate style. But on this one they made him more Fate styled, his art has more details and just looks overall better.
@@zomegaexalpha4708 literally ANY brothers Grimm fairy tale
Man, If there has ever been a moment in the lostbelts that I want animated, it easily goes to Oberon going full Vortigern
So the uncle of Morgan and Arthur has come to reclaim his throne and enact the will of Britain.
Nasu you fuckin genius you have my applause
He actually want devour fairy Britain because its fucked up and rotten to the core (also he is will of Britain from the beginning)
@@user-cg8gb1uk1m I haven’t heard of that first part but I know of the second one. All I know is he didn’t like the coming age of man and tried (and failed) to stop it. But that makes sense since it’s said he wants to destroy both it and pan human history
@@Kokuori since he is the incarnation of the last thing to reject Age of Man, it's easy to understand that he extremely hates humans
@@natsumiheli9791 is it true that his hatred towards human is far exceed even Beast?
@@shanelughway2675 Beasts don’t hate humans, actually one of the most important requirements to become a Beast is to love humanity
Oh fuck... That NP is horrifying, but that new class is evil-looking. Amazing.
That things creepy as hell.
@TatsukiMao Pretender is actually strong against knights, not cavalry. It's basically the reverse Alter Ego.
@@gowithmyflow3667 Speaking of Alter Egos...
Pretender is effective against Alter Egos
Unfortunately for Pretender it's weak against Foreigners
@@MaxHDAvenger Foreigners are as rare as Alter Egos so this won't really come to play most of the time
His np just being a bunch of insects forming a larger insect creeps me but it looks hella badass
It reminds me of the Master Core fights from Smash Bros 3DS
It's Mors AKA Norwich Calamity. Vortigern has error when he appeared in this lostbelt, thus assimilated with Oberon. Making Vortigern true appearance are unknown, since he only used Oberon's presence.
@@s.i9050 so basically, Vortigern is a bug struggling to remain intact by assimilated with Oberon
oberon turns into that insect jutsu guy from naruto
@@s.i9050 no it's true that vortigen was summoned in the lostbelt as Britain's will however he wasn't corrupted instantly but rather it was the Welsh Fae (bugs) that believed he's their king and so worshipped him until his Saint graph had changed to a form that resembled Oberon's Saint graph (as Oberon did exist in fate )
Holy fuck that NP lines, and the delivery from the VA is flawless!
Man, the change in voice is amazing. Hail, bug dragonic overlord
I spot a fellow Vanguard player
tfw the only time Megacolony was cool was in another game x'D
Zouken would be proud
Wait is that's kai's va or something
@@lynxace1602 sorry I'm not haha.
So he's a Vibrava
Spoilers for anyone interested:
I also love that the Noble Phantasm's name can be read as a bit of wordplay:
Lie Like Vortigern as in Lying (forced to become the Pretender)
Lie as in Laying to die (what happened to him before becoming Oberon)
That’s brilliant.
Damn that voice change is so good. I got chills by hearing it. Holy crap
Did he give them all sleep and invul for a turn? That's hilarious he just says "No" for an entire turn, you can't attack or be attacked.
the NPC Oberon did that in game, too. aoe damage (buster np) and then puts enemies to sleep and give them invul
@@lynxace1602 So it's a case like Kama then, with the NP animation changing but the effect being the same
@@edgargaebolg9307 seems like it
Man legit decides when you can or cannot play the game XD
I thought it was hilarious, but after using him in the story, it made sense. The invul is to prevent the enemy from waking up after getting hit after np. Abby-chan has sleep skill too but for 1 target only.
The way he just makes his voice 'fierce-d' up when he transforms just makes this NP 10x cooler.
Damn, not only is he an ikemen but he has a terrifyingly cool np. Sign me the fuck up.
I don't know why, but the soundtrack reminded me of the this one horror game soundtrack
Which horror game?
Bruh you can't just reference something & not tell us what you were referring to
is he talking about silent hill
note : im just guessing i didn't play this game once in my life
@@salfarizikamil9740 I forgot.
You forgor? 💀
Oberon: changes to Lancer class.
Super Orion: That's wierd looking saber.
Super Orion : Imma smash super hard!
Vortigern : (class change) I'm a Lancer now. heh.
Super Orion : (punches with a Buster crit for 5 million) cool story, bro. now you're part of the dead class
yang guifei: class advantage? is it flamable?
Nah we can't say anything bout his third skill atm, the class change thingy is only in the leaks. Wait till he comes to the game a week later
Oberon, probably: _swaps to Foreigner_
Godjuna: Trickery is evil and therefore, unnecessary in the next yuga. Mahapralaya!
Oberon: Fu-
@@thejudge1728 2X Merlin Godj lets do this
even when the np have some dark vibes, he still gives his enemy invincible buff, what a kind hearted fairy
@@ericx6969 "Aight bro you look tired fighting me, just take a quick nap nobody will hurt you mate"
*inserts ignore invincible CE on oberon*
Welp because the saint graph shows that ruler turns into a pretender so does that means that the theory of sherlock might be sus has become more convincing
wait, your saying he could be another Pretender?
@@avesta4206 maybe..
@@avesta4206 people are saying Sherlock might be a foreigner cause his Saint graph looks just like the foreigner card art
@@Watching_Koi true, i bet the counterforce changed his class just it could be on the safe side, kinda like "ok your dangerous so ill only let you in if you change your look"
@@avesta4206 lol, everything is so sus right now since we're almost at the climax of the lost belts
The way he speak when using his np is too damn cool like evil chanting, I need him omg
Oberon's art looks like the old british painting style and I love it.
Holy shit that OST is hauntingly beautiful.
Is there anyone who has composed this version of his np ost? I've been searching for weeks but all i found was his battle ost
@@sturges167 I too have been searching for this version, I Guess we will have to wait for KATE to release the full Fgo album
when the pretender is mistrustful
Bruh his interlude is god dang harder than his lb6 boss battle
Not sure this is a fun fact but the artist for Oberon (Chica Umino) has entomophobia (fear of bugs); according to the 6th anniversary interview with Nasu and Takeuchi.
They mentioned that even though she has a fear of bugs, she actually bought an insect book because she wanted to do her best even though they saw her in pain drawing something she fears.
I can see why.
They most likely wanted something that could really put fear into people. And Umino must've studied on bugs because she wanted to incarnate her vision of her worst fears.
That makes me respect her dedication to animating him a lot. The amount of determination it took was amazing
And she actually did it... Twice.
The first designs she did were on fgo style of art, only to be rejected by nasu because he wanted her to draw oberon in her own style.
@@ScumbagKazuela aww is that true? That's actually quite nice how Nasu encourages artists to draw their own specialty and not just follow the mold, helping their characters' illustrations to pop out a lot more like Columbus' and Paul Bunyan's
Even if some people aint too happy including myself once first seeing Oberon's art
@@mochiboni2560 it was in order to help the plot of the game.
He needed for oberon to feel alien to the rest of the game.
Similar to what happens with Columbus on agharta
@@ScumbagKazuela I actually didn't know that part! Mad props for her.
HOLY FACK! DW, Nasu, the whole staff really outdid themselves! That NP is terrifying!
Chills
Yep. Utterly terrifying
Moth
It reminds me of a madoka magica witch
@@Shinketsu01
Or something out of Bravely Second
That OST is fire. This and Maou Nobu's theme are my utmost favorites.
You stay being the goat Neo you and your team translating the chapters really have made JP FGO a much better experience for overseas non/jp fans/players. I hope u sack Oberon with your tickets/singles.
That Noble Phantasm. Jesus. And here I thought he was gonna be the comic relief.
Ah yes, the most horrified NP of all time:
*BUGS*
Kafka foreigner next lmao
Do you know kamen rider zero one metal cluster hopper this is that but different
Heavens feel intensifies
Nice, the card art guy goes to the same tailor of Roa and Dantes.
U mean the artist?
@@Tu-Li-Oh saint graph
Oberon Vortigern: I AM OBERON VORTI-
Chen Gong: Oh great another support I can sacrifice
Gong: I pronounce you the arrow to my bow
@@rotciv557 zonk, NOT A CHANCE M8 (if he uses the sleep skill he can't be sacrificed lol Chen Gong respecting those that can sleep)
This makes me believe that Holmes could be potentially a Pretender Class too tho.
This kind of shattered the "Holmes is a Foreigner" theory when he could be a Pretender class all along.
@@miharu4269 I mean, he could be a Pretender and have Existence Outside the Domain, similar to BB Summer
Holmes said he was a caster when we met him :V he sus
やべぇ····。
悪人面が格好良すぎて惚れた····。
····サイフが破壊されるな····。
ワンチャンモルガンのヴォーティガーンとの楽しいカルデア生活が始まる可能性もあるのか(ゲス顔
That class reveal is so cool. DW really stepping up with the animations
U dont know how many time i replay this video... The way he talk at beginning is so calming and getting really serious so freaking fast... And when his voice trembling at "kurae" (idk japanese) like damn... Its feels like he so freaking tired of this world...
this is me and exactly how i feel about the np voiceline..... the soft beginning and the sudden switch into the growled words gets me every time ;-;
0:11 holy shit that voice is amazing
Very visceral indeed.
this sound that only for a second length gonna drain all my SQ
So this is why lb6 has 3 parts there might have been time constraints but I also think its intentional
Oberon was the first character that we were introduced to in lb6 after castoria in the livestream before even the gacha servants he was written as an incredibly lovable character and time was given to the fandom to fall in love with him
fans drew fanarts and comics in love for "oberon" never knowing that they were playing right in the hands of Nasu and then
Boom
the mushroom rips away our comfortable blanket showing us that Oberon was never even real he was fiction in fiction
Damn i want them to release the ost from that np right now it sound so good
Me too, its fuckin sick
You and me both
same, it gaves me both goosebump and chill to the spines
does anyone know the bgn name for artoria np?
(fgo version)
Honestly we can say that about every np that comes with it's own theme evenfrom the random ones who we still don't get why the deserved their own theme like osakabehime's theme still slaps so hard.
When I first saw Oberon I was pretty hyped about him. And people were like blehh his np is bad. WELL FOLKS DOES THIS LOOK BAD TO YOU!!!???
Loudeeeerrr. Me too, I like him from the get go, and especially because i recognized immediately the illustrator is umino chica-sensei. His NP is terrifyingly awesome!! Gotta save up from now on for him.
people are still on the thought train that mitigating damage taken is bad while dealing damage is good.
also every aoe servant must be a looper for 3turn farming or theire trash in the eyes of a lot of players for some reason.
the guy damages all enemies and buys you a turn to charge np´s or do other things so whats not to like about that?
oberon/vortigern is someone youd take to cq´s for survivability over damage which is something only a hand full of players seem to care about.
@@uteriel282 His damage and np gain aren't too bad either, his np has effective against lawful enemies, his quick cards generate both decent stars and gauge, with his own 70% battery he is going to be good, it just was a matter of what class he would be.
@@uteriel282 The issue is that it's annoying to use his NP for damage, first card Buster bonus is arguably the best first card bonus but you have to use his NP last otherwise you don't do damage and if you have a Buster Brave chain with him then fuck you your extra attack won't do shit no matter what. It's still too early to argue about this because for all we know his third skill could give your entire party an Invul Pierce along with like a 30% 3T Buster buff and you can go bonkers but so far he's leaning on the side of a support
@@KuroiShiAnimu
invul pierce would go against the sleep mechanic tho since damaging an enemy whith the sleep debuff removes the debuff.
giving him invul pierce would make him worse and not better.
the ost that accomodates his np is really nice.
"Can we save them?"
Nasu: Yes, but no.
So this is why Sherlock had a rate-up recently...
The Great Pretender...
🤨 maybe
Our "detective pretender" that always being sus about his class. First time, we met him, he's a caster and lostbelt arc he's a ruler. This is why I love Typemoon Games so much, betrayal and plot twist hahaha...
@@suhaimisaripuddin4282 "Detective pretender's" class change has already been explained btw. It's because Sherlock likes solving mysteries so much that if he were left to do his work in the Caster class container, he would make use of the caster class skills Item Construction and Territory Creation and eventually solve every single mystery on the planet.
Basically he would eradicate mystery, which is very important for magecraft. That's why the world itself forced him into a ruler container. Rulers don't have the same class skills s Caster. So Sherlock is restricted that way.
@@geraldo301 No, Sherlock himself explains that he modified his class into a Ruler.
However the class change isn't the only thing wrong about him: Surtr called him a Hybrid, Koyanskaya taunted him for not showing his true nature, even Moriarty claims (not with bad intentions ironically) that Holmes seems off and that we shouldn't trust him.
Oberon is essentially fairy Gandalf, who was actually Sauron the whole time!
Aside from having a downright terrifying NP, I always wanted a servant related to moths.
And to top it off, his design is beautiful.
*Koyanskaya is really on thin ice now, isn't she?*
well she will die in lb 6 part 3 lol so yah .., Someone said she sacrificed herself for us :/
@@watashielshaeddo5454 welp
@@watashielshaeddo5454 Woah. BUT THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE THOUGH. She's "dead" just the moment after she got her servant ver. released. In other words, her role has finally been fulfilled (or at least that's what it seems)
I should have anticipated that, but still, I need to know her reasons for doing *that*
I mean, why would she even care about us to begin with? I'm too curious to know. Thanks for the info btw
no, tamavitch didnt die
the reason why she help us, is still unkown. maybe it will be answered in lb 6.5
@@barghest8763 Good to know then. Looking forward to her reasons and explanation.
Love the music. Really eerie and mysterious, super fitting for some kinda dark fairy.
Vortigern out here turning into a pilgrim butterfly from DS3 tho-
Yo this is so cool, we get to see a new class and the true lostbelt king, man I can’t wait to see the see the final battle.
He’s not the true lostbelt king, that’s still Morgan
@@docanon222 Then he's gonna be "Pretend" Lostbelt King. :D
It is probably somewhat off-topic, but after seeing this brand new Extra Class in F/GO, I would love to see those 2 obscure Classes from Fate/Strange Fake being fully explained and finalized in the light novel so they can possibly being implemented in this game as well. I'm talking about Watcher and Gatekeeper specifically.
The ost playing during the NP, gives me goosebumbs. Is it the first time it is played?
IIRC Abby's NP had Witch Trial playing, Witch trial is that eerie *shit's going down* music in the LB arc although it started as the Abby theme
Yes it is oberon's very own np ost I guess
@@nanaya6716 It plays during his entire bossfight as the background music
That voice acting tho...
Thank you for not posting this earlier when it got leaked, I really appreciate it.
Idk if this is true or not, but I think DW did a 200IQ move making him Vortigern since in history and in folklore he is the king of the Britons who effectively became the next civilization to occupy britain after the Romans since they stopped the Picts and Skots from invading. This is huge because King Arthur's legend was based on the ruler Artorias who Artoria was named after so it would make sense for Artoria, named after the ruler of Roman Britain to be in conflict with Vortigern, the King of the Britons.
PHH Vortigern has been a thing in lore for quite a moment now, he appears in Garden of Avalon
a corrupted ruler class or some kind, feel like the classic version of matou zouken chest worm. And I think that the pretenter class servant can be also included Loki ( maybe ).
i think Pretender is more of someone who says hes an ally to one side but says that to both enemy factions but only uses them so they can destroy each other and when no one is standing, you can claim the glory for yourself
@@avesta4206 I think he's called pretender because he didn't know who his true self was because his spirit graph was fucked. That and his ability to change classes.
@@decidueyezealot8611 oh, sorry then
Could Sherlock be a pretener?
@@cyechan50 uhh... Maybe not I think
Can’t wait for the translations!
Honestly, I just wanna see a vid about Oberon-Vortigen's alternate NP line, the one where its been said "I have NOTHING left to say to you"
He gives me Howl Pendragon vibes and I'm into it
I really like his design!! Maybe we'll get this Oberon and the one we all know and love as well. A boy can hope lol
Since I see a lot of people asking about Pretender's class Interactions, Imma list it all here:
Pretenders are the counterparts to Alter Egos.
They do 1.5 against Knight classes(Saber, Archer, Lancer), 0.5 agaisnt Cavalry classes (Caster, Rider & Assassin, not to Zerks though, they do 2.0 like with most), 2.0 against Alter Egos and 0.5 to Foreigners.
They take 1.5 damage from Zerks and 2.0 damage from Foreigners.
This also means that Foreigners got a buff since they are the best option against Zerks AND Prets.
I'm sure Matou Zouken wants this SSR in his FGO personal collection..., being a bug collector and all... :D
Don’t worry about the views, my guy. I personally will rewatch this enough to make it balanced
Our boi Oberon looking pretty damn good with that new drip. Though I'm afraid 60sq is all I have.
Man this year is full of strong/long awaited servants. I'm gonna need 3 lucky bags for new year alone.
Wait what. I was too focused on his new look but He buff removal attacks you THEN PUTS YOU TO SLEEP?? oh man if he NP loops then thats just broken
I finished LB6 and unlocked this ascension on the same day. I dare say I honestly wanted to see even more of his relationship with the protagonist in the story
Did you get the hidden scene (red dialogue) in the story?
Tnak you so much Neo!
Good luck rolling Oberon Vortigern ya all!
That's it! IM SAVING FOR YOU MOTH KING IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU'RE LIKE 3 YEARS APART
Would love to see gao spinning at the end of that np lmao
Oberon’s theme would be the third boss battle theme after Ivan and Koyanskaya that I want to hear in full version
We're two (possibly three) "episodes" left to the end of the game's story and now they decide to add a new class. Where is my Savior class DW?
So the leaks were true! Ahhhh I’m so excited for translations to catch up. I will only be getting the tldr until then 😖thank you again for the translations!
He reminds me of Howl. I want him in my chaldea..
With this reveal, it only makes me .ore excited to see what's in store for us for LB7.
Yes...
Its called LostBelt 6.5
we’re just going through half of the LB6 Rasputin hasn’t yet to appear and probably a Grand Saber reveal too just like LB5.5
@@CC-pb5fg rasputin is on lb7.
He was sent there to look for a stronger vessel for the alien god (ORT).
Muramasa was sent to the sixth to deal with the weapon capable of killing the alien god (rhongominiad)
I knew he would be the Mors King! Not really surprised it would be linked to Oberon, considering he was already very SUS. But I have one question. If that is VORTIGERN, then where is Oberon? Is that Vortigern in the body of Oberon?
From what I gathered on the leaks, it's likely Oberon is to Vortigern what Castoria was to Morgan.
They're both sharing one saint graph, Vortigern was always there but now he's in control.
@@The_Prophet2104 Oh so like it was with Tonelico, then PHH Morgan transferred her knowledge to Tonelico, same must have happened with Vortigern? Like Oberon was supposed to be summoned by Gaia(?) to help Chaldea, but instead got wanked into Vortigern's body? Still is confusing. Surely, Oberon does not share Vortigern's ambitions
@@Name-mi9rr I hope we can have the real Oberon, and not just Vortigern
@@thegreatzephyr1776 yes, i hope it too.
Would be cool to see Vortigern! And to have the voice actor from the Garden of Avalon Drama Disc!
So he is basically a suicide button created by Britains Lostbelt as an “I quit” measure?
It's more like Britain/Cernunnos's desire to be destroyed
Yes, dude is the prophesized "insect that gnaws at the roots of the world" that cernunnos's furry ass was sealing. Morgan and the LB was doomed from the very beginning.
Here are all the Answers
Ok, my edgy side screams me to roll for him in two years, it's very epic and dark, I love it!
Btw is that song part of his NP or is it from somewhere else?
It's part of his NP.
It’s also part of his boss theme.
honestly I think it’s a variation of his theme, because the piano only part that you hear isn’t heard in his boss fight theme, since that variant is backed by drums
I alaways thought it was strange that his wings shape and colors doesnt match between his first summoned and meeting with the team. So that why. The fairy changed him
Man, I really love his NP Lines 😍
could you also translate and romanized his NP voice line?
it would be very awesome!
Dang
Dork Mothman is now evil moth uncle
Chills... I hope I can get him when he comes out 2 years later, although my lack of self control means I eould have no SQ for him at all
This is some Persona 5 Sketchy Akechi stuff
Hmm yes he do look like akechi.....
Ey, fellow Persona 5 fan 😁
The class card is basically Arsene
right, yo Loki better be a servant in the future and he better be Pretender Class
@@Kumire_921 the best persona
On one hand I’m so gutted with myself that I intentionally spoilt myself but at the same time this dude cool af
I'M THE BUG INSIDE YOU!
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED!
Thats the vibes i get from his NP and himself overall lmao
Everybody gangsta until he change his form, he start to sound deeper on his NP, and his true class revealed.
I love that piano at his theme.
he sounds so pissed
His NP reminded me of the weird Butterfly Things in Dark Souls 3 above Lothric Castle
Wait so did they just create a whole new class or something cause when I first heard of pretender I thought it was just Faker class
The pure hatred class servant, this will be disastrous enemy for Knight class and Alter Ego
Since Alter Ego counter against rider, caster and assassin
Is it an official new class?
Is it similar to Avenger, Foreigner etc where we get summonable servants with this class
or is it similar to the Beast Class, a class only for battle?
Yes it is an official class and it's most probably a summonable class like Avenger, foreigner etc. His banner might be coming next week
Yes its seems to be official summoneble Extra Class like Avenger, Alter Ego, Foreigner, Gatekeeper, Watcher, Moon Cencer, etc.
@@arowmorth and savier of buda
That Class basically completed the Alter-Ego, Foreigner and Pretender circle
Well... Shieetttt
DW really pulling hard with their new servants on us
Looks really amazing!
That thing looks like Mnemoth from Hellblazer issue no.1! The fact that it's actually a huge group of bugs give it extra points!
Heh now everyone who hated the mangaka's art style suddenly likes him
People hated the artstyle?????
WHy
They actually don't like him because he's not waifu and complain about the art style not look like Fgo at all. And now they liking his design suddenly because he turn into a edgy character.
Basically, crybacks weeping their eyes out 'cause Oberon/Vortigern isn't a waifu, and thus his art style and him is trash.
Now that he is edgier than Edgemond (Don't get me wrong, I like Dantès), all is forgiven.
In my not so reliable opinion, his art is kinda strange but the good kind of strange, Like Ivan and Xiang Yu kind of strange. Is interesting and new.
Which is ironic given how Nasu wanted the artist to draw Oberon like this instead of drifting into FGO's style.
I did not like it to begin with, the hardlines were always a big nono. But if you pay close attention here you can see this art is more blended, more FGO style, and more detailed with its lines. Also you say everyone hated the mangaka, but it's the art that was bad, and in fact I only saw buttkissers praising the rather simple-looking art than hate for the mangaka.
Unless I see him deliberately strike at me or my allies, I will continue to assume his loyalty, regardless of his identity.
idk if u guys notice but he has dmg deal resist again caster (maybe 4 horseman?? counter Alter ego? dk) but has bonus dmg again saber, archer and lancer..
Great, now i cant skip. He’s good