I am the great grandson of Julia German, Sophia's younger sister abandoned by the Cheyenne before Sophia and Katherine were taken into Stone Calfs camp near McCellan Creek, TX. Yes, those are the signatures of the four surviving German sisters. For a more recent and expertly researched book written by cousin, Arlene Jauken, Sophia's great granddaughter, "The Mocassin Speaks". This includes an account of the German family, and John Sipes (family of Medicine Water and Mochis) reconciling in a peace ceremony before the publication, c.1991.
Hi Scott!!! Oh, did I hear you speak on a podcast-- Wild West with Mike King? You were wonderful!!!! I keep meaning to buy Moccasin Speaks and friends have shared some info and images from the book with me. It's beautifully done. I will find a copy today! I have been intrigued with the story of your ancestors for quite awhile and first read Catherine's / Grace Meredith's book about five years ago. I'm honored that you took the time to comment here. 🎉
I really enjoy these snippets from people's lives, especially when told using their own words as it gives a real insight into their world and the vocabulary they used.
I am a direct descendant and have one of the original copies of the book that has been passed down in our family. It is a prized possession. Mitzi German Kent, Cleveland Tn.
I too am a direct descendant. Which of the sisters are you descended from? My great grandmother was Addie. She married Frank Andrews and settled in Bern KS. My grandfather Ivan was next to the youngest of 11 or 12. He married and ended up settling in NE Ohio where most of my family still resides. 2 of my aunts have been to Fannin county GA to see the old Cox/ German gravestones in some old out of the way cemetary.
Thank you for covering this story. I am Nancy Adelaide's great grandson. My dad (her grandson) just visited Fort Wallace last summer for the first time.
There are people out there that say America has no real roots or a true background to be proud of. Mrs. Fallon Has once again proven all these critics wrong! With her amazing ability to bring back the lives of all those who dare to pioneer and risk everything to start a new life while creating a nation. You truly are becoming a national treasure Mrs. Fallon. You have captivated us once again while making us proud to be Americans. We look forward to your next video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Masterfull production as always Siobhan. Nelson Miles comes across as a great military Commander and a compassionate person. My word those 4 girls were tough and resilient.
A truly great reading of a first-hand historical account. Not many people can pull that off and keep it interesting. I thoroughly enjoyed it. You have a great and enjoyable feel for history and present it well. I'll keep watching for more. I have an elevated respect for Nelson Miles now. Thanks.
Another brilliant history lesson Mrs Fallon. A fascinating insight into the lives of the German sisters. I wish my history teacher's from my school days had had your ability to make their subject so 'alive'. 👍
Siobhan: I am a little late reading this account, these girls were a different breed then today's stock, your telling and respect for their ordeal is shown by the comments of descendants listed below. Thanks for another great video and looking forward to your next tale.😊
Much appreciated, Joe! I am amazed at their ability to survive too. Incredible women, and they somehow were also able to forgive their abductors as well. Strong stock indeed!
Thank you, Todd! So kind of you to watch and comment. 🙏 I'm trying to get another up but life keeps delaying work 😉. Should have second Washita up in a few days.
@@SiobhanFallon7 your welcome I know that you have made these videos awhile ago but I just want you to know that I have enjoyed everyone of them I have always enjoyed history documentaries or just people talking about history and how people lived so thanks again
Now, I must respectfully ask you to stop. I have other things I need to do, but I am unable to remain away from your fascinating series long enough to get those things done. What to do....? This historical account of the captives family tragedy was totally unknown to me. And, I quickly found myself captivated by it. And, again...Thank you! 🌹🌹
@@SiobhanFallon7 Two weeks? I think I can get some things done. Then pop some popcorn and get back to you. Happy New Year to you, stay safe and healthy, and keep doing what you're doing. ❤️
This is a digression but Nelson Miles is one fascinating fellow. A crockery clerk without a college degree he volunteered for the Civil War. Miles was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroics at Chancellorsville. Miles so impressed his superiors that he was kept on at the regular army rank of colonel after the severe downsizing of the US Army after the War. Sparing many significant details, Miles rose to the rank of Commanding General of the United States Army, the last person to hold this position.
You answered my question I wanted to ask, if they were raped in captivity. I know it is considered an "ugly" subject but we should say it and acknowledge it. I can only imagine the shame they felt given the times -- we still have shame even now. Rape of girls/women is a tool often used in conflict, war. Thank you for doing this video.
@csmtcqueen thank you. It is an ugly fact, and these girls were amazing in that they were able to tell the truth of it, while others could not. It was a brutal time.
Yes! She died March 4, 1949, at the age of 86. She remained plagued by tragedy. She had three daughters but her only son died by choking at nine months old. Her first husband died. She remarried an abusive husband who tried to kill her with an ax in 1910 but her daughters were able to save her.
Queen Victoria's reign ended in 1901. The Civil War and the Indian Wars were fought during that reign. Two key human taboos (procreation and decease) were exactly reversed from what they are now. The Victorians were completely ok and familiar with death. They had pictures taken of themselves with the bodies of their deceased where the bodies where posed as if still alive. Hairs of the deceased was woven into jewelry. But anything to do with sex was completely taboo and banished from mention in "polite society." Saying "legs" instead of "limbs" was considered racy and improper. As time when on, these two taboos got reversed. Sex exploded into society during 60's and 70's, and death became so taboo that Jessica Mitford wrote a book called "The American Way of Death" in 1963. It was about how the funeral-industrial complex had so ripped off the American public because death itself could not be looked squared in the eye anymore. The female captives of the Indians who were rescued faced enormous difficulties recovering from their ordeals because they simply could not mention anything having to do with sex. That part of their tragedies had to remain a secret within them until they went to the grave.
I am the great grandson of Julia German, Sophia's younger sister abandoned by the Cheyenne before Sophia and Katherine were taken into Stone Calfs camp near McCellan Creek, TX. Yes, those are the signatures of the four surviving German sisters. For a more recent and expertly researched book written by cousin, Arlene Jauken, Sophia's great granddaughter, "The Mocassin Speaks". This includes an account of the German family, and John Sipes (family of Medicine Water and Mochis) reconciling in a peace ceremony before the publication, c.1991.
Hi Scott!!! Oh, did I hear you speak on a podcast-- Wild West with Mike King? You were wonderful!!!!
I keep meaning to buy Moccasin Speaks and friends have shared some info and images from the book with me. It's beautifully done. I will find a copy today!
I have been intrigued with the story of your ancestors for quite awhile and first read Catherine's / Grace Meredith's book about five years ago. I'm honored that you took the time to comment here. 🎉
I really enjoy these snippets from people's lives, especially when told using their own words as it gives a real insight into their world and the vocabulary they used.
Hi Scott, I am Nancy Adelaide's great grandson which makes us third cousins.
I am a direct descendant and have one of the original copies of the book that has been passed down in our family. It is a prized possession. Mitzi German Kent, Cleveland Tn.
Oh, Mitzi, what a strong family your ancestors were! 🙏
I too am a direct descendant. Which of the sisters are you descended from? My great grandmother was Addie. She married Frank Andrews and settled in Bern KS. My grandfather Ivan was next to the youngest of 11 or 12. He married and ended up settling in NE Ohio where most of my family still resides. 2 of my aunts have been to Fannin county GA to see the old Cox/ German gravestones in some old out of the way cemetary.
Thank you for covering this story. I am Nancy Adelaide's great grandson. My dad (her grandson) just visited Fort Wallace last summer for the first time.
WOW! You have resilient and incredible ancestors 🙏🙏🙏
There are people out there that say America has no real roots or a true background to be proud of. Mrs. Fallon Has once again proven all these critics wrong! With her amazing ability to bring back the lives of all those who dare to pioneer and risk everything to start a new life while creating a nation. You truly are becoming a national treasure Mrs. Fallon. You have captivated us once again while making us proud to be Americans. We look forward to your next video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh Hugo, you are too kind. Thanks for commenting and watching (and the pep talks!). I appreciate you so much 🙏
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Steven Spielberg,,, watch out there's a new director in town!!!
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Encore 🍷🍷🍷🍷
( It's twelve o clock ⌚ somewhere in the world!) Haha hahahah
Masterfull production as always Siobhan. Nelson Miles comes across as a great military Commander and a compassionate person. My word those 4 girls were tough and resilient.
Thank you so much, Richard! Incredible what the sisters lived through.
Of course, they are German.
A truly great reading of a first-hand historical account. Not many people can pull that off and keep it interesting. I thoroughly enjoyed it. You have a great and enjoyable feel for history and present it well. I'll keep watching for more. I have an elevated respect for Nelson Miles now. Thanks.
@jerryjones188 thank you, Jerry!!
I thought the same about Miles myself when I learned about his role.
Thanks for your kind words!
Another brilliant history lesson Mrs Fallon. A fascinating insight into the lives of the German sisters. I wish my history teacher's from my school days had had your ability to make their subject so 'alive'. 👍
Thank you!! Helps that I get to pick my subjects! 😉
Siobhan: I am a little late reading this account, these girls were a different breed then today's stock, your telling and respect for their ordeal is shown by the comments of descendants listed below. Thanks for another great video and looking forward to your next tale.😊
Much appreciated, Joe! I am amazed at their ability to survive too. Incredible women, and they somehow were also able to forgive their abductors as well.
Strong stock indeed!
Another Great Commentary Siobhan , Great Job!
Thanks so much, Mark!
Always good to hear from you 🙏
Siobhan, these are wonderful. I enjoy these very much...
Thank you, Todd! So kind of you to watch and comment. 🙏
I'm trying to get another up but life keeps delaying work 😉.
Should have second Washita up in a few days.
As usual , well done and well told.
Thank you!!!
Really good video, thanks. I’ve stayed in Miles City, Montana before, so new appreciation for its namesake.
Thank you! Reading up on this gave me a whole new appreciation of Nelson Miles too.
That was wonderful ❤
Why thank you!!!
I never knew about this. Now I do! Thanks for another great video!
Thank you, Mike!
What a great job you did..
Oh thank you!! This is an especially tragic story. I appreciate you watching! 🙏
Another great story! Thanks.
Yay! Thank you!!
Wonderful. Absolutely terrific & looking forward to more.
Thank you, George!!! Wow! You made my week 🎉
Wow! Another awesome video! Thank you!
Thank you!!
Really good video enjoyed it very much so thanks for making it
Thank you for the kind words!
@@SiobhanFallon7 your welcome I know that you have made these videos awhile ago but I just want you to know that I have enjoyed everyone of them I have always enjoyed history documentaries or just people talking about history and how people lived so thanks again
@leecrump9404 thank you! I am continuing to make them!! Please stay tuned for more 🙏
Now, I must respectfully ask you to stop. I have other things I need to do, but I am unable to remain away from your fascinating series long enough to get those things done. What to do....? This historical account of the captives family tragedy was totally unknown to me. And, I quickly found myself captivated by it. And, again...Thank you! 🌹🌹
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'll be putting a new one up in the next few days, then you will have at least two weeks before I finish another!! 🤣🙏
@@SiobhanFallon7 Two weeks? I think I can get some things done. Then pop some popcorn and get back to you.
Happy New Year to you, stay safe and healthy, and keep doing what you're doing. ❤️
@russ8261 thank you! Happy 2024 to you, too! 🎉
Great story
@daviddowning2152 thanks, David!
Such a fantastic channel 👏 👏👏 Keep up your excellent work 👍
Thank you so much! I'll be posting a new one next week!
Wow.
amazing
Thank you, Greg!!
This is a digression but Nelson Miles is one fascinating fellow. A crockery clerk without a college degree he volunteered for the Civil War. Miles was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroics at Chancellorsville.
Miles so impressed his superiors that he was kept on at the regular army rank of colonel after the severe downsizing of the US Army after the War.
Sparing many significant details, Miles rose to the rank of Commanding General of the United States Army, the last person to hold this position.
Oh, yes, I think he is too! I need to learn more about him! Thanks for a sneak peek at his life... 💕
You answered my question I wanted to ask, if they were raped in captivity. I know it is considered an "ugly" subject but we should say it and acknowledge it. I can only imagine the shame they felt given the times -- we still have shame even now. Rape of girls/women is a tool often used in conflict, war. Thank you for doing this video.
@csmtcqueen thank you. It is an ugly fact, and these girls were amazing in that they were able to tell the truth of it, while others could not.
It was a brutal time.
Sandoz book on Crazy Horse is brilliant, and reflects what I said about fiction writers perfectly.
I have this but haven't read it yet! Will move to the top of my list!
I heartily recommend It, obviously. It turned my view of Crazy Horse completely around.
@barbaraanneneale3674 I'll read asap!
G wiz no need to do that. Was just a suggestion. But I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Do we know what year she died?
Yes! She died March 4, 1949, at the age of 86. She remained plagued by tragedy. She had three daughters but her only son died by choking at nine months old. Her first husband died. She remarried an abusive husband who tried to kill her with an ax in 1910 but her daughters were able to save her.
@@SiobhanFallon7 Wow. I was just thinking about how she went from living the real thing to seeing movies but what a life
Thanks again glad they escaped. Savage times savage people
Truly was.
Queen Victoria's reign ended in 1901. The Civil War and the Indian Wars were fought during that reign. Two key human taboos (procreation and decease) were exactly reversed from what they are now. The Victorians were completely ok and familiar with death. They had pictures taken of themselves with the bodies of their deceased where the bodies where posed as if still alive. Hairs of the deceased was woven into jewelry. But anything to do with sex was completely taboo and banished from mention in "polite society." Saying "legs" instead of "limbs" was considered racy and improper. As time when on, these two taboos got reversed. Sex exploded into society during 60's and 70's, and death became so taboo that Jessica Mitford wrote a book called "The American Way of Death" in 1963. It was about how the funeral-industrial complex had so ripped off the American public because death itself could not be looked squared in the eye anymore.
The female captives of the Indians who were rescued faced enormous difficulties recovering from their ordeals because they simply could not mention anything having to do with sex. That part of their tragedies had to remain a secret within them until they went to the grave.
All excellent and excruciating points. Thank you.
Endless tragedies on both sides, gruesome things by both sides to innocent people. ,,Homo homini lupus ", so sad.
Absolutely 😭
Cruel buggers.
Remember who they learned to scalp from...or perhaps you don't.
Had scalping way before whities showed matey or perhaps you aren`t up on it@@afablue
@@afablue Indians killed women and children of opposing tribes forever.
@@afabluethe notion that native people learned to scalp from the French or British is false.