I still am wanting to build one. Ideally welded 1/4" steel plate, heavy internal hinge that hooks around to prevent opening on that side, and an abloy cylinder with supportive backing if that works so the badguy can't just blow the guts out the back of it. Oh, and bolt the miniature behemoth to the floor of my car and cover it all with same-color car carpeting to blend it in, and somehow mask the lock. Probably also coat it before carpeting somehow to prevent rust. Seal the mounting points to weatherize.
I was almost tempted to list down the possible attacks patterns based on what I learned from following your channel. But then I realised something: is it me or that thing looks like a lunchbox? Damn, it looks thin and light.
I bought this safe a couple days and honestly I don’t know how to feel after seeing this lol I purchased my first firearm this week as well and it’s not like anyone is gonna touch the safe nor even know where it’s at other than myself but damn that’s bad😂
I have a question: how do you determine whether or not a inner groove lock can be picked or not? I noticed in some videos that you jiggled them open, whereas some others you mentioned they couldn't be picked. I recently saw a safe that looked sturdy and all, but it was a combination lock and the bypass key was an inner groove key, so I suggested it may or may not be picked open very easily.
The vulnerability in these locks really just comes down to whether or not a lock has a side bar inside it. A properly designed side bar will not be accessible inside the keyway, leaving the lock picker no means of attacking and compromising the side bar. If you see me raking or jiggling one of these kinds of locks open, the lock has no side bar.
@@HandgunSafe Aaah, I didn't know the concept of "sidebar". I just read a document that talk about it a bit more. I thought it was something you could see from the outside, but it seems it's just part of the mechanism in some way. Thanks, you just taught me something more about lockpicking!
The more I think about it, the more I realise the problem comes from the fact that they're trying to merge 2 different systems into 1. As in: there must be a way for the electronic to unlock it, but there must also be a way for a mechanical lock to bypass the electronic one, which can be forced open because of the fact that it's a bypass mechanism. With my 0 year of experience in lock mechanism, I'm thinking one way to prevent this kind of brute force would be to have 2 doors, one for each type of locks. But then you either have an ineffective and funky looking lock box, or you have a safe that is easier to break because it won't be as sturdy as a safe with only 1 door.
Here's what I state on my website: "One cannot design a device intended to prevent unauthorized access by giving it a multitude of methods for gaining entry. Every system incorporated into the device introduces more points of weakness."
Allow me to make a bad joke: 1:12 _"No one has written to tell me somebody picked the lock."_ Well, if someone as competent as you were to pick the lock, I think I wouldn't know to write about it either. I would just assume one of my socks mysteriously vanished, as they always do. All right, I'll see myself out.
I still am wanting to build one. Ideally welded 1/4" steel plate, heavy internal hinge that hooks around to prevent opening on that side, and an abloy cylinder with supportive backing if that works so the badguy can't just blow the guts out the back of it. Oh, and bolt the miniature behemoth to the floor of my car and cover it all with same-color car carpeting to blend it in, and somehow mask the lock. Probably also coat it before carpeting somehow to prevent rust. Seal the mounting points to weatherize.
If you ever get around to doing that, post a video. I'd like to see that!
@@HandgunSafe :) cool. If I do it I hope I remember.
I was almost tempted to list down the possible attacks patterns based on what I learned from following your channel. But then I realised something: is it me or that thing looks like a lunchbox? Damn, it looks thin and light.
It's light. I didn't bother showing that you can also open it by dropping it right-side-up.
I bought this safe a couple days and honestly I don’t know how to feel after seeing this lol I purchased my first firearm this week as well and it’s not like anyone is gonna touch the safe nor even know where it’s at other than myself but damn that’s bad😂
Maybe you can just use it as a placeholder until you invest in a better handgun safe.
I have a question: how do you determine whether or not a inner groove lock can be picked or not? I noticed in some videos that you jiggled them open, whereas some others you mentioned they couldn't be picked.
I recently saw a safe that looked sturdy and all, but it was a combination lock and the bypass key was an inner groove key, so I suggested it may or may not be picked open very easily.
The vulnerability in these locks really just comes down to whether or not a lock has a side bar inside it. A properly designed side bar will not be accessible inside the keyway, leaving the lock picker no means of attacking and compromising the side bar. If you see me raking or jiggling one of these kinds of locks open, the lock has no side bar.
@@HandgunSafe I'm gonna try to find pictures online about that kind of lock to better understand but thanks for the explanation!
@@HandgunSafe Aaah, I didn't know the concept of "sidebar". I just read a document that talk about it a bit more. I thought it was something you could see from the outside, but it seems it's just part of the mechanism in some way.
Thanks, you just taught me something more about lockpicking!
The more I think about it, the more I realise the problem comes from the fact that they're trying to merge 2 different systems into 1. As in: there must be a way for the electronic to unlock it, but there must also be a way for a mechanical lock to bypass the electronic one, which can be forced open because of the fact that it's a bypass mechanism.
With my 0 year of experience in lock mechanism, I'm thinking one way to prevent this kind of brute force would be to have 2 doors, one for each type of locks. But then you either have an ineffective and funky looking lock box, or you have a safe that is easier to break because it won't be as sturdy as a safe with only 1 door.
Here's what I state on my website: "One cannot design a device intended to prevent unauthorized access by giving it a multitude of methods for gaining entry. Every system incorporated into the device introduces more points of weakness."
Allow me to make a bad joke:
1:12 _"No one has written to tell me somebody picked the lock."_
Well, if someone as competent as you were to pick the lock, I think I wouldn't know to write about it either. I would just assume one of my socks mysteriously vanished, as they always do.
All right, I'll see myself out.
No one going to be that close to my firearms to do all that lol
Point made. :)