the thing that confused me is, if he woke Goob from the baseball game, then he would have never stole the time machine or met Doris. Meaning they wouldn't NEED to get him for the memory scanner breaking.
That is true, but if he did nothing and Wilbur never appeared..then he would have never met Wilbur's mom! (meaning that the mom would have never had a crush on him) so then the only reason he picked him and sent him to the future is to keep the timeline the same.
@@duelknight that would feed into the time loop theory, because it loops over and over, and only when louis wakes goob up does another louis come and restart the loop, because now louis is independent of the loop.
I do have a small theory that needs a lot more analyzing, what if Goob wasn't actually Goob, if they were trying to solidify a timeline, Goob wouldn't actually be as pathetic as he was in the movie, because he was woken up during the game. Just making him pathetic, and informing him about him falling asleep in the game would make Luis feel sorry for Goob, thus waking him up and solidifying the future. But of course this opens up the theory hole of was the bowler hat a part of the plan? And wouldn't that make the bowler hat future fake?
"Goddammit my husband locked himself in his ten lock encryption lab for the next few days. The hell am I gonna do to get off no-...Oh Lewis!~" -Franny probably.
Well tbh what's spooky or anything about this theory? They just kind of want to keep the paradox stable so they can exist. Seems like a regular time travel thing to me tbh.
Kaylynn Jones You guys didn't catch that at the end of the movie? I found it odd the first time I watched it. Also, Not only would Franny know, but also Louis's adopted parents. They adopt him at the end of the movie, BOTH of them know what he looks like as A child.
Gisselle Penaloza It was weird for me because I thought "they must have seen photos of him when he was young or something", but I don't know why I never realized they SAW him on that epoch
Yeah lol its so cool to think about cause either way his son would have taken the machine and just orchestrated the whole thing cause if he tried to mess with anything to change it severely it would change the timeline omg genius I love this theory.
ALSO: Carl says at the end to Lewis,"Don't forget to invent me" Huh It fits in, PERFECTLY, with this theory! And when Carl and Wilber are talking Carl is worried about the plan, then saying there was a risk Wilber wouldn't exist Wilber frankly said, "Eh, what do I need to worry about?" He knew either way he would still have life Carl's first line was telling Lewis to invent him because he was scared or anxious about not existing....... HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMM
panic at the disco is my life, so i eat chez whiz he also asked him to consider changing his design making him more athletic and busty which would probably take more time to produce so that means less time “making their future” so I think that debunks this whole thing tbh
Carl says theres a 99.9% chance Wilbur wont exist. Therefore, Wilbur and Carl have their own version of the plan to CONFIRM Wilbur WILL exist. Adding Franny Telling Lewis she's always right makes Lewis tell young Franny she's right. Causing her to have a crush, they grow up get married, have Wilbur, Lewis continues to invent, CONFIRMING the timeline will stay the same. Wilbur and Carl's plan made the whole thing easier. And at the end of the video where The Theorizer said Cornelius had to have told Wilbur the story gave Wilbur the idea to go to the past, telling Lewis that "this would be a great story to tell me some day" giving Lewis the idea to tell him the story causing these particular events of the entire movie to happen again, except when present Lewis grows up, he wont invent Dor-15. AND he stopped Goob from missing the catch. THIS will mess up the timeline and the time machine wont get stolen. Which means Wilbur will have to come up with a new reason to get present Lewis to come to the future, without the Bowler Hat Guy Lewis will have no reason to be in the future or stay there. Meaning this could in fact mess up the future timeline and Wilbur may not exist. Or the entire family. So this theory could ruin the entire future of the Robinson's.
Also wiht the Bowler Hate Guy, who knows. They couldve hired Goob to make that whole thing up and fake stealing the time machine so theyll have a reason to get Lewis from the past. Then promising him hell see his mom and getting him eager to break the time machine. SO he has tto fix it. Meanwhile, Cornelius makes Dor-15 on that "business trip" so Lewis has something to defeat, making him stay in the past and get to know the family. He defeats Dor-15 and is eager to see the family again. Meaning Lewis will make the future happen.
What an interesting theory... 🤔👌🏾 But I have an extra layer to add: what if, Luis/Cornelius is in a time loop where he always meets his childhood self in the future, but each time there’s something terrible that he happened to have caused indirectly, so each time Cornelius has his family show Luis the worth of his future, and also send Luis back to his current time to prevent a major problem from ever happening like with the hat and with Luis’s best friend? So each time Luis goes into the future, it’s cemented that he’ll want the future to look like that, and he’ll stop a prevent a major problem from ever occurring in the future.
So, every time they take Lewis to the future, he fixes a problem, but that causes another problem that they must bring him back to fix? Meaning that DOR15 and Goob weren't the original problem, but were created when they brought him to the future?
@@jennifercaldera5108 which means he has done it various times off screen and when we see the beginning its actually the billionth time it has happened
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When Lucille asked if he had the family cowlick: "Do you know Sam Gundersen? - It's a big country. - State. - I wonder if you're related. - Maybe if he took his hat off. Oh, good idea. Then we can see if he has the family cowlick." They called it "the family cow lick' because Sam Gundersen's family all have cowlicks.
My theory is that since Lewis was able to time travel just to see his mom, maybe he caused his own mom to leave his infant self by startling her with his footsteps. Lewis's mom was startled by Lewis's footsteps because she thought it was a stranger coming after her. Which would explain why she left. So by time traveling, Lewis created his own future. He caused himself to become an orphan. Lewis unintentionally created his own future without realizing it. Anyway, Merry Christmas and have a happy new year.
But the loop wouldve started somewhere, so doesnt that mean that when Lewis was born, he wasn't left by his mother because if he was the first time around, then his footsteps wouldn't have changed his future. Somehow he still must've been left or something to have wanted to time travel to see his mom in the first place. Idk if that made sense. Hence, maybe he changed his future slightly the first time, time travelling but I don't think he caused himself to be an orphan
@@matthewstahl2487 simple solution to the "original" timeline with Lewis having no reason to time travel, his mother knew she was ill hence why she tried to abandon him and died anyways dispite not leaving him there that night. He still grows up without his mom, still has a desire to meet her, and he still ends up creating the "new" timeline. Only difference is what day Lewis and his mother part ways. It's one of those "self correcting" timelines. 2 paths that lead to the same end.
honestly I think they fought so hard to fight the T-Rex cause they could and they would for any body. they seem to be genuiely loving people, I mean they got those two weirdos hanging out at their front door and are totatly cool with that...no one knows who they are related too. I think they just really like adopting people. the weirder the better.
@@j0an-07-arc6 His son goes back in time which then sets the events for his adoption and marriage thus causing his son to exist , his son who then goes back in time and it repeats.
This is literally my favorite YT theory in existence. Meet the Robinsons was already one of my favorite Disney animations of all time, and when you first came out with this theory, it forced me to look at it in a new light. Absolutely brilliant! Your theory actually makes the movie more complete, complex, and enjoyable! However, now that you have rehashed things.... I have to point out you overlooked the MOST IMPORTANT player. Lewis "Cornelius" himself. He CREATED the time machine. He is in an instance, the omnipresent, omnipotent in this film's universe. He must know of many alternate universes with different endings. He has likely lived them. He was the mastermind behind the plan all along- they are the "best family for him", he searched until he found the best ending, and then he masterminded the WHOLE plan to force his younger self to choose this ending. He wrote and directed the whole thing- even allowing for Young Lewis to see his birth Mother (much to Franny's dismay/terror) as a test. A test to see if this Lewis wanted the same thing as himself. And his experiment worked. What a mad scientist!
@@yaboichangkaishek3460 in c&c you will watching advanced technology warfare between capitalism and communist who are superior on earth automation dystopian even AI jobless
This theory makes sense, but I don't get why you made the Robinsons seem so sinister. You made them seem like evil people even though all they were trying to do was make sure their future happened.
I mean, it’s not necessarily black and white, good and evil. You don’t have to be evil to be necessarily nafarious, or even have sinister intentions. In a way it is sinister, because they’re creating a constant loop of meeting Luis just to selfishly keep their current mode of existence, out of fear of what would happen otherwise. Fear of the unknown leads them to force one kid on a linear path with deception, which in general is pretty sketchy. They’re probably good people with good intentions, no doubt, but they have a sinister way of approaching it.
silent grace i understand what your saying, but it’s not like their future is completely horrible. (on the surface ) it’s a utopia, it seems like a pretty nice place to be. yes, manipulating him into making those decisions was selfish, but it’s not like he doesn’t get anything out of it. he gets a great life, a job where he’s happy, a beautiful family.
@@cynthiapaige_ yeah but what would happen to them if lewis found another happy family that loves him and fall in love with another girl?. then they will not be part of his perfect life and enjoy the luxury they have, one of the hardest thing for us human to do is to give away our pleasures in order to do something else, particular to do the greater good. they will be normal people living in a good future and not be lewis family nor part of his life... they self-inserted in his life in some way.
I mean i do belive you but then heres my theory tho: The beggining of the movie, where it showed the first time Lewis mom abandoned him, she heard footsetps running. Those foot steps were 12 year old lewis traveling in time to meet his mom again face to face but doesnt. His foot steps warned her and left him. 12 year old lewis knocked on the door. And then at the end, he did the ezact same thing that happened in the beggining of the movie. And the only thing That Lewis will never know is that He time traveled before everything happened to this point
So, just watched the film (after seeing your theories) and a few notes: 1. the cowlick dinner scene: they aren't referring to their family. They don't have cowlicks they just have eccentric hairstyles. The family with cowlicks they were referring to was one that lives in North Montana (Canada), not their own (go back and listen to the surname they say). A cowlick is a lock of hair the grows in a different (often opposite) direction from the rest. Just had to get that out of the way first. Cowlick is not a hairstyle but an small uncooperative mass - and they even seemed to have their hair styled that way. Even the people married into the family have the "cowlicks"...clearly not a genetic thing - but easily overlookable. I think one or two may have natural cowlicks (like the train girl with the tiny strand curling on her forehead) though, but it's not something they all have. 2. that guy doesn't almost die over not getting PB&J, he was just throwing a hissy fit. As someone who isn't a big fan of sweets, I have definitely used a PB&J as dessert before. Thus, I don't find them wanting a PB&J after spaghetti that strange (done that exact thing before). May be a bit weird that they didn't wait a bit before having them, but that's probably due to film time - I mean, that was a lot of carbs and proteins to have in one sitting xD I'd have a food baby if I didn't wait at least an hour. 3. I don't think the family was in on it. The only people, I think, knew was his future son, the robot, and maybe his future foster father (grampa). - The people in the house were just doing their hobbies, not experimenting with a million new things everyday (which is how you made it sound), so it's not strange for them to be engaging in them. Besides, what's so interesting about delivering pizzas? That guy had one let-down of an intro - from superhero to pizza guy. - As a foster child I can say that it's not uncommon for us (or even close friend in general) to call a friends' parents "mum" or "dad". Especially when it's a family you'd love to be apart of. When doing this, I have occasionally gotten a parent that was taken aback by this until learning my parents are dead - after which they tend not to care so much xD SO, I can say that her reaction to isn't unnatural.......but still possible there was more to it as your theory states. - I think only the father, maybe, recognised him. It's possible the mother did on a subconscious level but never fully put everything together until the hat came off. I think the father might have and no one else because it would be easier to remember someone as they were when they were younger, if they were already an adult. When you grow up with someone it can be harder to remember exactly what they looked like when they were younger because you see them as they are now (especially true when the same age and you knew each other since childhood) - or so I think. - the wife (mum) may have subconsiously realised it (along with the adopted mum) however didn't quite place all the pieces together. The wife primarily because she views her husband in a romantic light and was obviously not doing the same for a small child xD that'd be creepy. And, I don't know about you, but if my significant other approached me as a child I would definitely coo over him/her. You know, teasing them about how adorable they are and what not (which is not an uncommon thing for adults to do to children). But she did none of that and merely compliments his intelligence. I do think lightbulbs begin to go off as she learns certain things about him (such as his inventing, not having parents, and his appearance being strangely nostalgic) however they probably only just cause her to be like "awww, just like my husband" all-the-while not fully putting it all together until she sees the hair. Side note: I think train girl and puppet guy are the adoptive parents' biological children, possibly. We don't really learn more about the couple that adopts him besides that they adopt him. They seem to share some genetic markers with the parents. They have the same hair colour as the father and all have brown eyes. The dad actually does have a cowlick (that or he styles the middle part up). The train girl has a face shape that is a mix of the mother and father while the puppet guy looks more similar to the dad. It's also probable that they were adopted as well at different times. I'm not trying to bash on your theory, I actually thought it was really good which is why I went and watched the film. However, the supporting reason as to why I don't think it was all planned is because I believe the future changes slightly only after he goes back the school and wakes Goob up. Up until then the timelines were the same, but when he remembered to wake Goob up, the split and changed ever so slightly - with Goob getting adopted by the couple that came to see Lewis and thus never needing to go back and try and sabotage Lewis' already established future. reasons why I think this: 1. Multiple worlds theory. Up until that moment everything, despite future Goob's shenanigans, would have stayed the same regardless. If he didn't intervene the machine would have worked and the foster mother would have seen that he was abandoned as a child and decided to adopt the brilliant child. If he did intervene then the machine would have showed her a touching memory and then later she'd have found out he has no family. He also would have remembered to never make that helping hat regardless of his choices (after that encounter), thus Goob probably would have just continued to sulk and try to be a pest to him and his family in the future. So, really, the only difference and the thing that splits the future timelines (causing them to change slightly to where one won't have the son going back in time while the other does with evil Goob) is his decision to stop in that hallway and go back to wake him up. There is no paradox but merely a changing of timelines. - That future that he visited will never been seen by him again because that previously evil Goob still existed. He didn't disappear or change to a non-spiteful person he simply walked off as his same old self. That Goob never stops existing. BUT the one that he goes back to has a much better life and (probably) doesn't end up doing the same as the other Goob. - I would also say the same for evil Goob. It could even be stated vice-versa as everything being altered to a different timeline when Evil Goob decided to steal the timeline, however I'd chock that more up to cause and effect. Especially since Lewis was the one to knock on the door in the beginning, meaning that everything in that timeline was meant to happen, though it is possible that he built time time machine to go back and see her in person originally, despite the rejection and seeing her on the memory screen. - his son tells him to tell him about their adventure, probably knowing that that same exact future wouldn't happen to him now and wants his alternate self to still know of their amazing adventure that was and almost came to be. That, no matter how their relationship is in the future, they were once friends. - robot seemed genuinely freaked out. He didn't have to freak out the way he did if they had a family plan, yet still did. Yeah, it might have weirded him out a bit to see a mini-Cornelius but it shouldn't have done so THAT much if he was expecting it. 2. Let's say your theory about the one couple that got based in PB&J being his birth parents, or at least the mum, is correct. In the original timeline he'd have gone and seen the memory and realised the connection: that he was rejected by her again, and decide to "keep moving forward" instead of looking back on what might have been and what was. He probably would have also made fun of her future wife's "singing" frogs only to later develop a crush on her (which is why the future wife warned him). This also would have brought them closer sooner, thus slightly altering the timeline...possibly. Regardless, he would have become that future Lewis originally went to see. - I think Lewis' son and future Goob coming back was the first time that happened. The thing the stumps me is how Lewis' son knew where and when to go back to..but I'm thinking maybe there's a destination log or something that he was able to access? If not, then...I'm not sure how he knew when and where to go, but he did seem surprised to see his dad as a child (which he shouldn't have been if that was the plan...you'd also think he'd be more well prepared and less resistant to be in the future with Lewis if that was the case). - I would also say that Cornelius was very much surprised to see Lewis and even had to be told it was his own son, via his wife. He didn't immediately just know it was his son, as he should have, he probably just thought that he'd still try and see their mum on the memory machine and then would see the truth. 3. Their concern for his safety. Okay, lets say some mama bear comes out of hibernation and is pissed to see you and a group of people in the forest and begins to charge. Now let's say that one of those people in the group is a relative stranger but a little girl...would you abandon her and run to save yourself? - Also, they kind of own the city, so letting a dinosaur run rampant isn't in their best interest. - Personally, I'd be extremely happy for any child that was just put out of mortal danger and probably show them affection as well, if at the very least to soothe them. 4. the only people who knew his real name (as Lewis) was his parents. I don't even think his wife originally knew him as Lewis since he changed it upon adoption. 5. "Who'd be a better family for you than us?" he's familyless and an eccentric inventor.. it's not hard to see him fitting in with them. Also, she just seemed pissed when that whole scene went downhill and Lewis ran off. She seemed different, or "off", because she'd been so happy..
(continued from above) ...go lucky until finding out the truth. Obviously she's not going to stay happy and is going to be pissed about the situation - getting a orphan child excited for adoption and crushing his hopes all the while the child is her young husband? I'd be pissed too. Based on all of this (and even just parts), they'd have no reason to to put up such a charade to convince him to create this family because he was already going to and, at the same time, already did. If he needed to be convinced, then they'd already not exist (like what happened in the film). UNLESS his son and Goob jumped to an alternate timeline when travelling into the past. There was no need for a family plan because, regardless of Goob's outcome, the future would have stayed relatively the same. If he wasn't already going to be adopted by that couple from the science fair, then why did he the second time? I doubt he went up to them and was like: "Hi, you adopt me and in the future we have an amazing family. Trust me, I've seen it :D" It only makes sense that she'd have wanted to adopt him regardless. In fact, he probably had to awkwardly bring up he had no family (to spark their want to adopt him) the second time rather than the mum just seeing for herself.
Midnite Soulja thank you thank you The biggest mindfuck is that the story ultimatly didn't matter. Goob's turning into an antagonist did hardly anything to change Lewis' timeline xD
Movie and game theories are now just elaborate fan-fictions. Which is fine if that's what they're going for, but it's also kinda pitiful to see theorist convince themselves that their ideas are real.
That was long...and completely worth it! This makes so much sense! You put into words exactly what I was thinking but couldn't find a way to say!! Thank you so much!!!!
if the family knew about young lewis coming to the present, because older lewis did the same thing, doesnt that mean that there was a version of this, the first one, where they (the family) didnt know?
Walter Alvarez I think thats a bootstrap patadox and the future only exits because it needs to exist for it to exist and has no real point of origin in time
Walter Alvarez No, Ok think of time like a race track the goes in a straight line when time travel was invented the "first" time it basically created timelines that go infinitely in the future and the past and when it was used the "first" time it created a loop in thay track making every infinite past time line go through the loop even if there was a loop in the past that didn't have the family make this plan because time travel was used the first time they made the plan every single timeline in the past automatically corrected itself to make them have that plan.
Walter Alvarez What I imagine happened was Lewis (in the first timeline that ever existed, where there was no plan, hence forth Origin Lewis) would have ended up without a family. He eventually would go on to blame himself for not having a family and want to go back in time to change it, beginning an extreme devotion ( as he is still an inventor at heart) to go back and change it. He would evtually succeed in his endeavor and go back in time, meet an initial version of himself, and somehow convince himself of the truth, before then making a few suggestions about people whom he knew an idea of what thhey were like in the future and back then. Then this new Lewis (Lewis v2) would take this knowledge (he is still smart to some degree) and use it to form that better life (or alternatively Origin Lewis tells Lewis2 about what happens if he continues down the regret Origin path and this opens Lewis2's eyes, still going for the same result.) Either way, eventually Lewis2 realizes he must make so.ething like the Origin Lewis event happen if his future is to ever happen, prompting him to make the time machine (which the Lewis2 would have no real reason to make as his original Memory Machine worked and he got to see his mother and he by this time probably would have grown past it.) He would then formulate a plan to get Wilbur to go back in time to get Lewis to the future, see this family, and so on. This creates timeline Lewis3 which somehow forgets about goob (which i imagine origin Lewis would have fixed the goob issue as being stuck in th orphanage with him he would want to fix.) This goob3 would have grown that disdain cor Lewis3 and kicked off the Meet the Robinsons timeline, which now knows how to keep the timeline intact as of MtR Lewis, creating the more permanent bootstrap timeloop.
My only problem: the "family cowlick" line wasn't referring to their own family, it was referring to a family they know in North Montana (formerly known as "Canada"), because that's where Lewis said he was from.
I can see that to, except that they were so quick to check for the family cowlick. First of all, if I wanted to know if he was related to someone they knew, they just needed to ask him Point Blank if he was related to the gunderson family. Second of all, unless people's hair has evolved to be very different colours in the future, and the gunderson's have green hair naturally, there's no possible way that they could tell who he was related to just by looking at how his hair grows. People can style their hair colour and even if they can't it wouldn't just be the gunderson's that had a cowlick on their head. They could have asked him anything, but they decided to do the one thing that meant he had to take his hat off.
this movie was the SINGULAR movie that was so trippy I watched as a little kid. I couldn't remember the characters or the name, just remained a forgotten memory. Thanks for bringing it back to me
I love how in the end he shows pics of them looking evil and in the back there is horror music and then the last pic is donald trump as shreck LOL HAHAHAHA!!!
5:50 Actually weren't they having a conversation about a famous actor in 2037? Ya know because of Luis saying he's from North Montana. "Oh are you related to whatshisname?" "Ooh! Let's see if he's got the family cow lick!"
The Theorizer she just want to maintain a lovely family, be insanely rich, and preserve every part of her life starting for his son to her frog orchestry... and btw, if the story would be main focus on the biological mother would that made portrayed her wife as a villain?
You are kind of making them sound like Dusknoir and Dark Dialga from Myster Dungeon. The future they showed Lewis is not a bad one. And if he did not see this future then he may never have any family ever.
you could say they are taking away his free will to choose this future... but from there perspective, he already made the choice for this future. and it was surely hes will that they made him, as he had seen the hole Doris invasion that would happen if they did not. in short, they have a really really odd family realtionship
The "Family Cowlick" Lucille mentions isn't the Robinson family cowlick; he mentions he's from Canada, and they ask if he's related to another family they know from Canada. He says it's a "big country," but Lucille says that if he was related to that family he'd have the signature cowlick. So, there's one strike off.
You never answered the biggest question. Why bother? It's not like it wasn't going to happen. Whether Wilber took Lewis to the future or not he would still marry the girl and get adopted the the parents. The only difference was Goob. Waking him up or not. So the Robinsons did this for fun? Some weird game?
The Robinsons has to make sure everything went perfect, otherwise, they would create another timeline in which their future is not what they wanted it to be.
I love your theory, but I have two problems with it. The first small one is that the "family cowlick" evidence is just wrong. In the movie, when Lewis says he's from Canada/North Montana, they ask if he knows Sam Gunderson, and then asks if he's related. They wanted to take off the hat to see if he had Sam Gunderson's family cowlick. My second problem is bigger. In a timeline where Dorris never existed, the memory scanner would have nevet been tampered with, and would have worked fine the first time, meaning Lewis wouldn't need the confidence boost of seeing his future. Just saying that last part didn't make much sense to me.
@@jorgenitales412 I doubt it simply because Lewis can directly influence the timeline like when by simply saying he wont make Doris she poofed out of existence. I think there are instances where Lewis existed outside of time where a time paradox was created. When? If the future was changed by Doris how was Lewis there and how was the time machine still there? As well as Doris being invented in the future changing the past meaning Lewis would never create her because he lacked the resources he had in the original future. This could easily be solved by an alternate timeline were it not for Lewis direct influence.
there were plans for a sequel for it to set up the events and it was supposed to come out the following year but it got cancelled its a shame bc I think it would've worked well
Peter Pan and Tarzan could also be connected. In the second Peter Pan movie (which nobody had ever heard of for some reason) Wendy has a daughter named JANE and lives where? LONDON.
Ooh interesting. I think they have different hair colors, but she could've dyed it. I don't remember the other features of them, but I think I'll look into that and see if the timelines align and everything. I mean, it is plausible. In the Peter Pan sequel Jane's dad is not revealed and in Tarzan Jane's mom is not revealed.
Tarzan was set in the early 20th century, and Jane was already an adult. Peter Pan 2 was set around the beginning of World War 2 in Europe, and that Jane was still a teenager.
What if they captured Lewis's mom and made her abandon lewis or pretended to be her to continue the timeline!!!!! That would possibly happen. They could all be evil.
This is so much better. I wanted to thank you for coming back with a revised theory that’s not just tolerable but especially great to watch. Good show mate. Good show
After seeing the final movie about Narnia I realized that it's actually religious, Aslan Himself says that the whole reason He let those kids come into Narnia and have those adventure and get to know Him was so that they'll know Him better in their own world.
To be fair im sure that they like adopting people. After all, Cornellious, or well, Lewis was adopted and had always wanted to be adopted, he even inferred the keep moving forward motto from the orphanage woman telling him to keep moving forward, as hell eventually be adopted. Not to mention that the two uncles are 100% adopted. Not one member of the family knows where they came from, according to Wilbur.
I still like the movie but am I the only one who got scared af when they saw the end of the movie (I was about six when I watched it though and I haven't watched it since) but the hat's doe 🎩 .......AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
How it’s understandable and there theory has a flaw it would have happened with or without him he was going to end up with her he was going to be an inventor he was going to start a family it was going to happen they were scared that there family would be erased even Louis and he also enjoys his life so it’s okay
Hang on just a sec... that might even explain the name of the movie itself. Meet the Robinsons. Thats what the plot was all about. The purpose of it all. Meet the Robinsons....
Yes but lewis is second name is robinsons so he could have had his birth mother and her family because all the other arnt related and have differerent second names
Actually you do realize if Dorris was never invented the the memory machine that Luise worked on would've never been wrecked in the first place there for he would've had no other reason to get Wilber to take him to the future😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼
exactly the only reason the memory scanner didn't work the first time was bc Doris unscrewed something. But if she was never invented everything would have ran smoothly. So, that means the whole reason Wilbur came to get Lewis was to fix the problem/ future that Doris created. That's it.
I only remember the movie since i had a DvD of it i was young and i remember the title called "Meet the Robinsons" now here i am i finally get the movie
The thing about them saving Lewis from the T. rex is that if Lewis died there, then that future wouldn't exist, so Wilber wouldn't exist to go back and bring him to the future so him going to the future wouldn't happen and he couldn't die, it is a paradox
This theory video is BRILLIANT!! I watched the Meet the Robinsons movie yesterday,it is an amazing movie,i loved the story and this is how i found your video!
10 Year Anniversary! Also I did notice one little detail, when Franny tells Wilbur that he is grounded until he dies, she probably means until they cease to exist. That's what I think.
I had my own theory that Cornelius (future Lewis) knew that all of this needed to happen, but also knew that everyone knowing might cause more variable mistakes, therefore not mentioning his time travel story to anyone. The one thing that always struck me as odd was when Wilbur told his story of his father "Waking up in a cold sweat, and wanting to build a time machine..." .... Just like that? I think he knew of some threat (Doris, maybe) that was growing faster than he anticipated, so his "cold sweat" was him worried the time machine wouldn't be ready in time for the timeline/past lewis to come and help. Of course, the one glaring plot hole is, if he knew how big of a threat Doris was, why did he ever build her?
Does this means he him self lives in multiple time lines and for say when a time line is ruptured as the Robinsons try to prevent because he helps the person that had Doris so in one he stayed asleep and in another he helped,thus deleting the first and say the effects are disinigrating then the one they try so hard to save is deleted by luis
The Book that inspired the Movie called “A Day With Wilber Robinson was released in 1990, and they went 30 years in the future in the book. So Meet The Robinsons Future should be about 2020, it’s 2020 Wilber should be bringing Lewis to the future any day now.
SO GOOD. blew my mind. When I first watched this I didnt really second guess it until watching it a second time and then after watching this it makes complete sense! you filled every aspect of the theory including the multiverse which was incredible to think you went that far. This is such a complex animation. I think the creators would be surprised and would hire you if they found this video! Good work!
You forgot about one of most important questions: did Lewis ever used memory scaner to see his mom? Mayby he went back to the past and saw her or found her in time perion between his young and older version we see in movie?
Okay but theorizer, i craft and write for like 14 hours a day almost every day as a paid artist and DM. I almost never stop working. My relaxing is crafting. I do believe that certain people are just mad by their creativity
goddamn this dude's videos and voice are always so intense that I forgot he wasn't analyzing a horror film
He makes it into a horror film
frappuccineko I feel so scared watching this 😂😂😂
Rachel Nevarez same I feel sooo freaked out especially with the music
frappuccineko （’-’*)
Same, I feel like when I'm watching the video, someone is creeping up behind me, centimeters away, about to murder me.
Good luck going to sleep guys!
Such an underrated movie.
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the thing that confused me is, if he woke Goob from the baseball game, then he would have never stole the time machine or met Doris. Meaning they wouldn't NEED to get him for the memory scanner breaking.
That is true, but if he did nothing and Wilbur never appeared..then he would have never met Wilbur's mom! (meaning that the mom would have never had a crush on him)
so then the only reason he picked him and sent him to the future is to keep the timeline the same.
which means he never went to the future and woke goob. IT'S A TIME LOOP ACROSS UNIVERSES!
What if goob is treated as a bridge between the timeline with Boris and the new timeline with the baseball win
@@duelknight that would feed into the time loop theory, because it loops over and over, and only when louis wakes goob up does another louis come and restart the loop, because now louis is independent of the loop.
I do have a small theory that needs a lot more analyzing, what if Goob wasn't actually Goob, if they were trying to solidify a timeline, Goob wouldn't actually be as pathetic as he was in the movie, because he was woken up during the game. Just making him pathetic, and informing him about him falling asleep in the game would make Luis feel sorry for Goob, thus waking him up and solidifying the future. But of course this opens up the theory hole of was the bowler hat a part of the plan? And wouldn't that make the bowler hat future fake?
"-wants him to spend the night, she's missing her Husband."
YOU WHAT YOU CAN'T JUST GLOSS OVER THAT.
hahaha I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed!
"Goddammit my husband locked himself in his ten lock encryption lab for the next few days. The hell am I gonna do to get off no-...Oh Lewis!~" -Franny probably.
@@chaserred4155 Somewhere out there, theres porn on that, I just know it....and I'm scared...
sis cant have her husband so she decides to kidnap the younger version of him instead
@@charthesmile Yeah
This dude is seriously making a kids movie like a horror movie
Amimations yea
he did make coraline a horror movie instead of a theory.
Yeah but it’s not
Well tbh what's spooky or anything about this theory? They just kind of want to keep the paradox stable so they can exist. Seems like a regular time travel thing to me tbh.
"Who would be a better family for you _than us_?" Well, now. This got disturbing.
Yet maybe true, they are the very best, for simply his futur self his happy enought to be with all of them. That or it's a Dr.Who shennanigan.
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Coraline?? Haha
Martin Cathala good one. Love Dr. Who. What a fun way to sneak that in there.
Well of course Franny knew that he was Luis they got together at the end of the movie 😂 she would know what her husband looked like as s kid
Kaylynn Jones You're right! I never thought about that XD
True
Kaylynn Jones You guys didn't catch that at the end of the movie? I found it odd the first time I watched it. Also, Not only would Franny know, but also Louis's adopted parents. They adopt him at the end of the movie, BOTH of them know what he looks like as A child.
Gisselle Penaloza It was weird for me because I thought "they must have seen photos of him when he was young or something", but I don't know why I never realized they SAW him on that epoch
Kaylynn Jones Franny wet herself when she saw him. She was horny. This was my childhood movie too
wouldnt that mean that Luis was the master mind behind the whole plain to trick him self?
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Which means he was probably happy with his life so it doesn’t really matter
Yeah lol its so cool to think about cause either way his son would have taken the machine and just orchestrated the whole thing cause if he tried to mess with anything to change it severely it would change the timeline omg genius I love this theory.
@@eggsploring1407 don't trust capitalism and consumerism technocracy brainwashed
ALSO:
Carl says at the end to Lewis,"Don't forget to invent me"
Huh
It fits in, PERFECTLY, with this theory!
And when Carl and Wilber are talking Carl is worried about the plan, then saying there was a risk Wilber wouldn't exist
Wilber frankly said,
"Eh, what do I need to worry about?"
He knew either way he would still have life
Carl's first line was telling Lewis to invent him because he was scared or anxious about not existing.......
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMM
panic at the disco is my life, so i eat chez whiz he also asked him to consider changing his design making him more athletic and busty which would probably take more time to produce so that means less time “making their future” so I think that debunks this whole thing tbh
But that’s because Lewis made up his mind not to make Doris
So he really didnt give a damn for Carl's request for that muscular design lmao
Carl says theres a 99.9% chance Wilbur wont exist. Therefore, Wilbur and Carl have their own version of the plan to CONFIRM Wilbur WILL exist. Adding Franny Telling Lewis she's always right makes Lewis tell young Franny she's right. Causing her to have a crush, they grow up get married, have Wilbur, Lewis continues to invent, CONFIRMING the timeline will stay the same. Wilbur and Carl's plan made the whole thing easier. And at the end of the video where The Theorizer said Cornelius had to have told Wilbur the story gave Wilbur the idea to go to the past, telling Lewis that "this would be a great story to tell me some day" giving Lewis the idea to tell him the story causing these particular events of the entire movie to happen again, except when present Lewis grows up, he wont invent Dor-15. AND he stopped Goob from missing the catch. THIS will mess up the timeline and the time machine wont get stolen. Which means Wilbur will have to come up with a new reason to get present Lewis to come to the future, without the Bowler Hat Guy Lewis will have no reason to be in the future or stay there. Meaning this could in fact mess up the future timeline and Wilbur may not exist. Or the entire family. So this theory could ruin the entire future of the Robinson's.
Also wiht the Bowler Hate Guy, who knows. They couldve hired Goob to make that whole thing up and fake stealing the time machine so theyll have a reason to get Lewis from the past. Then promising him hell see his mom and getting him eager to break the time machine. SO he has tto fix it. Meanwhile, Cornelius makes Dor-15 on that "business trip" so Lewis has something to defeat, making him stay in the past and get to know the family. He defeats Dor-15 and is eager to see the family again. Meaning Lewis will make the future happen.
What an interesting theory... 🤔👌🏾 But I have an extra layer to add: what if, Luis/Cornelius is in a time loop where he always meets his childhood self in the future, but each time there’s something terrible that he happened to have caused indirectly, so each time Cornelius has his family show Luis the worth of his future, and also send Luis back to his current time to prevent a major problem from ever happening like with the hat and with Luis’s best friend?
So each time Luis goes into the future, it’s cemented that he’ll want the future to look like that, and he’ll stop a prevent a major problem from ever occurring in the future.
So, every time they take Lewis to the future, he fixes a problem, but that causes another problem that they must bring him back to fix? Meaning that DOR15 and Goob weren't the original problem, but were created when they brought him to the future?
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Wilbur even says in the end: “You keep messin up I’m just gonna come back til you get it right!”
@@jennifercaldera5108 which means he has done it various times off screen and when we see the beginning its actually the billionth time it has happened
I love this movie. Great theory Theorizer.
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When Lucille asked if he had the family cowlick:
"Do you know Sam Gundersen?
- It's a big country.
- State.
- I wonder if you're related.
- Maybe if he took his hat off.
Oh, good idea.
Then we can see if he has the family cowlick."
They called it "the family cow lick' because Sam Gundersen's family all have cowlicks.
Makes me wonder what would happen if he met his mom...
Zaggora louis: mom?
*mom turns around slowly... Thornberry reveal!*
Mom: SMASHING!
Lewis: "mom?"
in the future frenny: "honey i dont feel so good"
I mean, he did, in another timeline
@@topaz9655 I'M DYING!!!
@@MrSuperbeast92 😂
What about when the robot says make me stronger in the future maybe that means he's unhappy with the present.
George French that is true!?
My theory is that since Lewis was able to time travel just to see his mom, maybe he caused his own mom to leave his infant self by startling her with his footsteps. Lewis's mom was startled by Lewis's footsteps because she thought it was a stranger coming after her. Which would explain why she left. So by time traveling, Lewis created his own future. He caused himself to become an orphan. Lewis unintentionally created his own future without realizing it. Anyway, Merry Christmas and have a happy new year.
But the loop wouldve started somewhere, so doesnt that mean that when Lewis was born, he wasn't left by his mother because if he was the first time around, then his footsteps wouldn't have changed his future. Somehow he still must've been left or something to have wanted to time travel to see his mom in the first place. Idk if that made sense. Hence, maybe he changed his future slightly the first time, time travelling but I don't think he caused himself to be an orphan
@@yorkielover2676 I didn't say Lewis CHANGED his future. He CAUSED it. There's evidence in the movie that says so.
@@matthewstahl2487 simple solution to the "original" timeline with Lewis having no reason to time travel, his mother knew she was ill hence why she tried to abandon him and died anyways dispite not leaving him there that night. He still grows up without his mom, still has a desire to meet her, and he still ends up creating the "new" timeline. Only difference is what day Lewis and his mother part ways.
It's one of those "self correcting" timelines. 2 paths that lead to the same end.
Beethoven's fifth theory
It's not the time travel. It's BnL's part of Infinite Mobius Matryoshka. Self-replicating, frozen unhuman world.
honestly I think they fought so hard to fight the T-Rex cause they could and they would for any body. they seem to be genuiely loving people, I mean they got those two weirdos hanging out at their front door and are totatly cool with that...no one knows who they are related too. I think they just really like adopting people. the weirder the better.
jacksparrowismydaddy yeah they were like “Hey a 12 year old kid is getting attacked by a dinosaur MAYBE WE SHOULD HELP”
exactly. they are like awesome superhero people. I mean just that one dude that delivers pizza...
I complete agree. It's just the family's nature to act that way.
Honestly I always assumed this while watching the movie
yeah the idea that they have alteier motives is just silly.
I can't stop thinking about how many paradoxes this movie spawned
Probably non since Louis broke it and we have no evidence it happened multiple times
@@j0an-07-arc6 His son goes back in time which then sets the events for his adoption and marriage thus causing his son to exist , his son who then goes back in time and it repeats.
This is literally my favorite YT theory in existence. Meet the Robinsons was already one of my favorite Disney animations of all time, and when you first came out with this theory, it forced me to look at it in a new light. Absolutely brilliant! Your theory actually makes the movie more complete, complex, and enjoyable!
However, now that you have rehashed things.... I have to point out you overlooked the MOST IMPORTANT player. Lewis "Cornelius" himself. He CREATED the time machine. He is in an instance, the omnipresent, omnipotent in this film's universe. He must know of many alternate universes with different endings. He has likely lived them. He was the mastermind behind the plan all along- they are the "best family for him", he searched until he found the best ending, and then he masterminded the WHOLE plan to force his younger self to choose this ending. He wrote and directed the whole thing- even allowing for Young Lewis to see his birth Mother (much to Franny's dismay/terror) as a test. A test to see if this Lewis wanted the same thing as himself.
And his experiment worked. What a mad scientist!
Makes you want to rewatch the whole movie
_man it’s so weird to not hear_
_”but that’s just a theory.”_
_”A FILM THEORY”_
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Squiggly Line but that’s a conspiracy
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"She wants him to spend the night"
"She misses her husband"
She's a shotacon?
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Nichsa 89 he is speaking the language of gods
FOXHOURS so a child simp
Technically he is her husband so...????
Am I the only one that got a bit creepy out near the end
Nah
Max Draws no.
Max Draws the shrek trump scared me the most
It started to freak me out but then good ol shrek came and calmed me down.
same, especially the eyes on 14:19
This theory makes sense, but I don't get why you made the Robinsons seem so sinister. You made them seem like evil people even though all they were trying to do was make sure their future happened.
I mean, it’s not necessarily black and white, good and evil. You don’t have to be evil to be necessarily nafarious, or even have sinister intentions. In a way it is sinister, because they’re creating a constant loop of meeting Luis just to selfishly keep their current mode of existence, out of fear of what would happen otherwise. Fear of the unknown leads them to force one kid on a linear path with deception, which in general is pretty sketchy.
They’re probably good people with good intentions, no doubt, but they have a sinister way of approaching it.
silent grace i understand what your saying, but it’s not like their future is completely horrible. (on the surface ) it’s a utopia, it seems like a pretty nice place to be. yes, manipulating him into making those decisions was selfish, but it’s not like he doesn’t get anything out of it. he gets a great life, a job where he’s happy, a beautiful family.
@@cynthiapaige_
yeah but what would happen to them if lewis found another happy family that loves him and fall in love with another girl?.
then they will not be part of his perfect life and enjoy the luxury they have, one of the hardest thing for us human to do is to give away our pleasures in order to do something else, particular to do the greater good.
they will be normal people living in a good future and not be lewis family nor part of his life...
they self-inserted in his life in some way.
@@jorgenitales412 Franny's kid would disappear, I suspect it's harder to accept lol
"Naximus would like: to know your location."
Does this guy sleep
now that you mention it, I have some concerns he's very sleep deprived.
GalaxyPotato tell that to my narcolepsy
I spent about 4-5 hours on this theory as a whole
he probably has that coffe patch that keeps you awake for 8 days.
Time zones
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More satanic tho...
I’m sorry? LESS DRAMATIC?! You kidding!?
@@robotsinc9573 every second there's always a joke to stall time in matt's vids
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I mean i do belive you but then heres my theory tho: The beggining of the movie, where it showed the first time Lewis mom abandoned him, she heard footsetps running. Those foot steps were 12 year old lewis traveling in time to meet his mom again face to face but doesnt. His foot steps warned her and left him. 12 year old lewis knocked on the door. And then at the end, he did the ezact same thing that happened in the beggining of the movie. And the only thing That Lewis will never know is that He time traveled before everything happened to this point
Just the movie dude
Ive only realized that he doesnt know about the opening, that the same thing happened to him except he was the baby
ohhh
LMAO YEAH I FIGURED THAT OUT WHEN I WAS 6 BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS NORMAL
Maybe if Lewis didn't do that, his birth mother might've changed her mind and kept the baby
So, just watched the film (after seeing your theories) and a few notes:
1. the cowlick dinner scene: they aren't referring to their family. They don't have cowlicks they just have eccentric hairstyles. The family with cowlicks they were referring to was one that lives in North Montana (Canada), not their own (go back and listen to the surname they say). A cowlick is a lock of hair the grows in a different (often opposite) direction from the rest. Just had to get that out of the way first. Cowlick is not a hairstyle but an small uncooperative mass - and they even seemed to have their hair styled that way. Even the people married into the family have the "cowlicks"...clearly not a genetic thing - but easily overlookable. I think one or two may have natural cowlicks (like the train girl with the tiny strand curling on her forehead) though, but it's not something they all have.
2. that guy doesn't almost die over not getting PB&J, he was just throwing a hissy fit. As someone who isn't a big fan of sweets, I have definitely used a PB&J as dessert before. Thus, I don't find them wanting a PB&J after spaghetti that strange (done that exact thing before). May be a bit weird that they didn't wait a bit before having them, but that's probably due to film time - I mean, that was a lot of carbs and proteins to have in one sitting xD I'd have a food baby if I didn't wait at least an hour.
3. I don't think the family was in on it. The only people, I think, knew was his future son, the robot, and maybe his future foster father (grampa).
- The people in the house were just doing their hobbies, not experimenting with a million new things everyday (which is how you made it sound), so it's not strange for them to be engaging in them. Besides, what's so interesting about delivering pizzas? That guy had one let-down of an intro - from superhero to pizza guy.
- As a foster child I can say that it's not uncommon for us (or even close friend in general) to call a friends' parents "mum" or "dad". Especially when it's a family you'd love to be apart of. When doing this, I have occasionally gotten a parent that was taken aback by this until learning my parents are dead - after which they tend not to care so much xD SO, I can say that her reaction to isn't unnatural.......but still possible there was more to it as your theory states.
- I think only the father, maybe, recognised him. It's possible the mother did on a subconscious level but never fully put everything together until the hat came off. I think the father might have and no one else because it would be easier to remember someone as they were when they were younger, if they were already an adult. When you grow up with someone it can be harder to remember exactly what they looked like when they were younger because you see them as they are now (especially true when the same age and you knew each other since childhood) - or so I think.
- the wife (mum) may have subconsiously realised it (along with the adopted mum) however didn't quite place all the pieces together. The wife primarily because she views her husband in a romantic light and was obviously not doing the same for a small child xD that'd be creepy. And, I don't know about you, but if my significant other approached me as a child I would definitely coo over him/her. You know, teasing them about how adorable they are and what not (which is not an uncommon thing for adults to do to children). But she did none of that and merely compliments his intelligence. I do think lightbulbs begin to go off as she learns certain things about him (such as his inventing, not having parents, and his appearance being strangely nostalgic) however they probably only just cause her to be like "awww, just like my husband" all-the-while not fully putting it all together until she sees the hair.
Side note: I think train girl and puppet guy are the adoptive parents' biological children, possibly. We don't really learn more about the couple that adopts him besides that they adopt him. They seem to share some genetic markers with the parents. They have the same hair colour as the father and all have brown eyes. The dad actually does have a cowlick (that or he styles the middle part up). The train girl has a face shape that is a mix of the mother and father while the puppet guy looks more similar to the dad. It's also probable that they were adopted as well at different times.
I'm not trying to bash on your theory, I actually thought it was really good which is why I went and watched the film. However, the supporting reason as to why I don't think it was all planned is because I believe the future changes slightly only after he goes back the school and wakes Goob up. Up until then the timelines were the same, but when he remembered to wake Goob up, the split and changed ever so slightly - with Goob getting adopted by the couple that came to see Lewis and thus never needing to go back and try and sabotage Lewis' already established future.
reasons why I think this:
1. Multiple worlds theory. Up until that moment everything, despite future Goob's shenanigans, would have stayed the same regardless. If he didn't intervene the machine would have worked and the foster mother would have seen that he was abandoned as a child and decided to adopt the brilliant child. If he did intervene then the machine would have showed her a touching memory and then later she'd have found out he has no family. He also would have remembered to never make that helping hat regardless of his choices (after that encounter), thus Goob probably would have just continued to sulk and try to be a pest to him and his family in the future. So, really, the only difference and the thing that splits the future timelines (causing them to change slightly to where one won't have the son going back in time while the other does with evil Goob) is his decision to stop in that hallway and go back to wake him up. There is no paradox but merely a changing of timelines.
- That future that he visited will never been seen by him again because that previously evil Goob still existed. He didn't disappear or change to a non-spiteful person he simply walked off as his same old self. That Goob never stops existing. BUT the one that he goes back to has a much better life and (probably) doesn't end up doing the same as the other Goob.
- I would also say the same for evil Goob. It could even be stated vice-versa as everything being altered to a different timeline when Evil Goob decided to steal the timeline, however I'd chock that more up to cause and effect. Especially since Lewis was the one to knock on the door in the beginning, meaning that everything in that timeline was meant to happen, though it is possible that he built time time machine to go back and see her in person originally, despite the rejection and seeing her on the memory screen.
- his son tells him to tell him about their adventure, probably knowing that that same exact future wouldn't happen to him now and wants his alternate self to still know of their amazing adventure that was and almost came to be. That, no matter how their relationship is in the future, they were once friends.
- robot seemed genuinely freaked out. He didn't have to freak out the way he did if they had a family plan, yet still did. Yeah, it might have weirded him out a bit to see a mini-Cornelius but it shouldn't have done so THAT much if he was expecting it.
2. Let's say your theory about the one couple that got based in PB&J being his birth parents, or at least the mum, is correct. In the original timeline he'd have gone and seen the memory and realised the connection: that he was rejected by her again, and decide to "keep moving forward" instead of looking back on what might have been and what was. He probably would have also made fun of her future wife's "singing" frogs only to later develop a crush on her (which is why the future wife warned him). This also would have brought them closer sooner, thus slightly altering the timeline...possibly. Regardless, he would have become that future Lewis originally went to see.
- I think Lewis' son and future Goob coming back was the first time that happened. The thing the stumps me is how Lewis' son knew where and when to go back to..but I'm thinking maybe there's a destination log or something that he was able to access? If not, then...I'm not sure how he knew when and where to go, but he did seem surprised to see his dad as a child (which he shouldn't have been if that was the plan...you'd also think he'd be more well prepared and less resistant to be in the future with Lewis if that was the case).
- I would also say that Cornelius was very much surprised to see Lewis and even had to be told it was his own son, via his wife. He didn't immediately just know it was his son, as he should have, he probably just thought that he'd still try and see their mum on the memory machine and then would see the truth.
3. Their concern for his safety. Okay, lets say some mama bear comes out of hibernation and is pissed to see you and a group of people in the forest and begins to charge. Now let's say that one of those people in the group is a relative stranger but a little girl...would you abandon her and run to save yourself?
- Also, they kind of own the city, so letting a dinosaur run rampant isn't in their best interest.
- Personally, I'd be extremely happy for any child that was just put out of mortal danger and probably show them affection as well, if at the very least to soothe them.
4. the only people who knew his real name (as Lewis) was his parents. I don't even think his wife originally knew him as Lewis since he changed it upon adoption.
5. "Who'd be a better family for you than us?" he's familyless and an eccentric inventor.. it's not hard to see him fitting in with them. Also, she just seemed pissed when that whole scene went downhill and Lewis ran off. She seemed different, or "off", because she'd been so happy..
(continued from above) ...go lucky until finding out the truth. Obviously she's not going to stay happy and is going to be pissed about the situation - getting a orphan child excited for adoption and crushing his hopes all the while the child is her young husband? I'd be pissed too.
Based on all of this (and even just parts), they'd have no reason to to put up such a charade to convince him to create this family because he was already going to and, at the same time, already did. If he needed to be convinced, then they'd already not exist (like what happened in the film). UNLESS his son and Goob jumped to an alternate timeline when travelling into the past. There was no need for a family plan because, regardless of Goob's outcome, the future would have stayed relatively the same.
If he wasn't already going to be adopted by that couple from the science fair, then why did he the second time? I doubt he went up to them and was like: "Hi, you adopt me and in the future we have an amazing family. Trust me, I've seen it :D" It only makes sense that she'd have wanted to adopt him regardless. In fact, he probably had to awkwardly bring up he had no family (to spark their want to adopt him) the second time rather than the mum just seeing for herself.
OOh! All of my points exactly. You freaking genius you...
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The biggest mindfuck is that the story ultimatly didn't matter. Goob's turning into an antagonist did hardly anything to change Lewis' timeline xD
Movie and game theories are now just elaborate fan-fictions. Which is fine if that's what they're going for, but it's also kinda pitiful to see theorist convince themselves that their ideas are real.
That was long...and completely worth it! This makes so much sense! You put into words exactly what I was thinking but couldn't find a way to say!! Thank you so much!!!!
if the family knew about young lewis coming to the present, because older lewis did the same thing, doesnt that mean that there was a version of this, the first one, where they (the family) didnt know?
Walter Alvarez I think thats a bootstrap patadox and the future only exits because it needs to exist for it to exist and has no real point of origin in time
Walter Alvarez No, Ok think of time like a race track the goes in a straight line when time travel was invented the "first" time it basically created timelines that go infinitely in the future and the past and when it was used the "first" time it created a loop in thay track making every infinite past time line go through the loop even if there was a loop in the past that didn't have the family make this plan because time travel was used the first time they made the plan every single timeline in the past automatically corrected itself to make them have that plan.
Walter Alvarez What I imagine happened was Lewis (in the first timeline that ever existed, where there was no plan, hence forth Origin Lewis) would have ended up without a family. He eventually would go on to blame himself for not having a family and want to go back in time to change it, beginning an extreme devotion ( as he is still an inventor at heart) to go back and change it. He would evtually succeed in his endeavor and go back in time, meet an initial version of himself, and somehow convince himself of the truth, before then making a few suggestions about people whom he knew an idea of what thhey were like in the future and back then. Then this new Lewis (Lewis v2) would take this knowledge (he is still smart to some degree) and use it to form that better life (or alternatively Origin Lewis tells Lewis2 about what happens if he continues down the regret Origin path and this opens Lewis2's eyes, still going for the same result.) Either way, eventually Lewis2 realizes he must make so.ething like the Origin Lewis event happen if his future is to ever happen, prompting him to make the time machine (which the Lewis2 would have no real reason to make as his original Memory Machine worked and he got to see his mother and he by this time probably would have grown past it.) He would then formulate a plan to get Wilbur to go back in time to get Lewis to the future, see this family, and so on. This creates timeline Lewis3 which somehow forgets about goob (which i imagine origin Lewis would have fixed the goob issue as being stuck in th orphanage with him he would want to fix.) This goob3 would have grown that disdain cor Lewis3 and kicked off the Meet the Robinsons timeline, which now knows how to keep the timeline intact as of MtR Lewis, creating the more permanent bootstrap timeloop.
Its a fucking walking paradox
One of my favorite quotes about the problems with time travel, "sometimes effect brings about its cause."
My only problem: the "family cowlick" line wasn't referring to their own family, it was referring to a family they know in North Montana (formerly known as "Canada"), because that's where Lewis said he was from.
I can see that to, except that they were so quick to check for the family cowlick. First of all, if I wanted to know if he was related to someone they knew, they just needed to ask him Point Blank if he was related to the gunderson family. Second of all, unless people's hair has evolved to be very different colours in the future, and the gunderson's have green hair naturally, there's no possible way that they could tell who he was related to just by looking at how his hair grows. People can style their hair colour and even if they can't it wouldn't just be the gunderson's that had a cowlick on their head. They could have asked him anything, but they decided to do the one thing that meant he had to take his hat off.
This is like back to the future, but from the perspective of the dad.
You know, you're not wrong
this movie was the SINGULAR movie that was so trippy I watched as a little kid. I couldn't remember the characters or the name, just remained a forgotten memory. Thanks for bringing it back to me
Ummm... im not too sure the writters were thinking...all of that... but good theory..
rick same for you, *writer's*
I really love your videos. I started watching your videos 2 months ago and I've seen almost all of them.
He is a genius
Spyguy 22 I agree, his videos are always thought-provoking.
angel milton same he's got some solid theory's
I love how in the end he shows pics of them looking evil and in the back there is horror music and then the last pic is donald trump as shreck LOL HAHAHAHA!!!
angel milton better than game theory
I have always loved this movie and consider it underrated. But wow this theory really opens a can of worms. Great job.
at 2:33
"Why does Uncle Joe nearly DIE after seeing the toast?"
XDDDDD I'M SRRY! I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!
the toast has done several crimes in ugoslavia
@@Mike-The-Merc the toast is cursed
Actually, franny literally met him when he looked like that
5:50
Actually weren't they having a conversation about a famous actor in 2037? Ya know because of Luis saying he's from North Montana. "Oh are you related to whatshisname?" "Ooh! Let's see if he's got the family cow lick!"
When Louis said to her mom She should say: *Yes* *DADDY* *?*
KonDor Attacker Remember the Titans?
CPRWL, just because the person has "Attacker" in a name doesn't mean it's an AoT reference.
Nerd Herd it's not I'm from Poland and it's "Atakujący" but I watch more English UA-cam so I change it to English translation
Nerd Herd That's not a Aot reference dumb fuck
Nerd Herd remember the titans is a football movie
I like how you portray them as evil when its the opposite lol
Not evil, just manipulative.
yep yep manipulative, and I'm more portraying them as suspicious, and (if Lewis were to find out) terrifyingly misleading
The Theorizer she just want to maintain a lovely family, be insanely rich, and preserve every part of her life starting for his son to her frog orchestry... and btw, if the story would be main focus on the biological mother would that made portrayed her wife as a villain?
You are kind of making them sound like Dusknoir and Dark Dialga from Myster Dungeon. The future they showed Lewis is not a bad one. And if he did not see this future then he may never have any family ever.
you could say they are taking away his free will to choose this future... but from there perspective, he already made the choice for this future. and it was surely hes will that they made him, as he had seen the hole Doris invasion that would happen if they did not.
in short, they have a really really odd family realtionship
The "Family Cowlick" Lucille mentions isn't the Robinson family cowlick; he mentions he's from Canada, and they ask if he's related to another family they know from Canada. He says it's a "big country," but Lucille says that if he was related to that family he'd have the signature cowlick. So, there's one strike off.
“Little Wonder” OST make me crying every time I heard, but after watching this .... errree...
The family cowlick thing was when luis told them he was a part of someone elses family, and she recognized the name, right?
z0mbiekiller619 yeah they asked if he was from some family in former canada
I just realized how much your videos have changed over time
You never answered the biggest question. Why bother? It's not like it wasn't going to happen. Whether Wilber took Lewis to the future or not he would still marry the girl and get adopted the the parents. The only difference was Goob. Waking him up or not. So the Robinsons did this for fun? Some weird game?
It's a time loop Wilbur will always show up, besides if he doesn't then Lucas won't go back into the science fair and he wouldn't get adopted
The Robinsons has to make sure everything went perfect, otherwise, they would create another timeline in which their future is not what they wanted it to be.
YAS someone agrees with me on how changing the past and future is unchangable
Mr.Animate R i mean the future DID change in the movie
I love your theory, but I have two problems with it. The first small one is that the "family cowlick" evidence is just wrong. In the movie, when Lewis says he's from Canada/North Montana, they ask if he knows Sam Gunderson, and then asks if he's related. They wanted to take off the hat to see if he had Sam Gunderson's family cowlick.
My second problem is bigger. In a timeline where Dorris never existed, the memory scanner would have nevet been tampered with, and would have worked fine the first time, meaning Lewis wouldn't need the confidence boost of seeing his future. Just saying that last part didn't make much sense to me.
I know it's been a long time but I think this mess ended up creating more than 1 timeline.
I ALSO THOUGHT THE SAME
I was thinking the same thing
@@jorgenitales412 I doubt it simply because Lewis can directly influence the timeline like when by simply saying he wont make Doris she poofed out of existence. I think there are instances where Lewis existed outside of time where a time paradox was created. When? If the future was changed by Doris how was Lewis there and how was the time machine still there? As well as Doris being invented in the future changing the past meaning Lewis would never create her because he lacked the resources he had in the original future. This could easily be solved by an alternate timeline were it not for Lewis direct influence.
Meet the robinsons 2
“OHhhhh its rewind time”
there were plans for a sequel for it to set up the events and it was supposed to come out the following year but it got cancelled its a shame bc I think it would've worked well
Peter Pan and Tarzan could also be connected. In the second Peter Pan movie (which nobody had ever heard of for some reason) Wendy has a daughter named JANE and lives where? LONDON.
-That Eden- that's my second favourite sequel next to little mermaid two
Ooh interesting. I think they have different hair colors, but she could've dyed it. I don't remember the other features of them, but I think I'll look into that and see if the timelines align and everything. I mean, it is plausible. In the Peter Pan sequel Jane's dad is not revealed and in Tarzan Jane's mom is not revealed.
I LOVE the second one!!!!
Hannah Creasor wait, there's a little mermaid 2?
Tarzan was set in the early 20th century, and Jane was already an adult. Peter Pan 2 was set around the beginning of World War 2 in Europe, and that Jane was still a teenager.
What if they captured Lewis's mom and made her abandon lewis or pretended to be her to continue the timeline!!!!! That would possibly happen. They could all be evil.
Deip Mapper! Whoa that’s heavy
u r just crazy
WOAAH DUDE
14:16 my mind got veryyyy confused trying to figure out WHAT the heck just happened
It's funny when Wilbur kept on saying 'Keep on Moving Forward' motto when Lewis was having a hard time fixing the ship. The way he said it was off.
This is so much better. I wanted to thank you for coming back with a revised theory that’s not just tolerable but especially great to watch. Good show mate. Good show
Did anyone see the freeze-frame Shrek with Trump's face near the end of the video?
😂😂😂😂😂
Could you please do a theory on The Chronicles Of Narnia. I've always had so many questions about it.
After seeing the final movie about Narnia I realized that it's actually religious, Aslan Himself says that the whole reason He let those kids come into Narnia and have those adventure and get to know Him was so that they'll know Him better in their own world.
geekqueen2010 Not to mention C.S. Lewis was a Christian (and fun fact he was friends with J.R. Tolkien)
@T-70 X-Wing Lewis calls it a "supposal"--suppose there was a world where there was a lion who was /like/ Jesus.
To be fair im sure that they like adopting people. After all, Cornellious, or well, Lewis was adopted and had always wanted to be adopted, he even inferred the keep moving forward motto from the orphanage woman telling him to keep moving forward, as hell eventually be adopted.
Not to mention that the two uncles are 100% adopted. Not one member of the family knows where they came from, according to Wilbur.
14:21 i begin to fear for my life and think that maybe i should have stuck to watching creepypastas
I still like the movie but am I the only one who got scared af when they saw the end of the movie (I was about six when I watched it though and I haven't watched it since) but the hat's doe
🎩 .......AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MR TMP Haha same
MR TMP this movie terrified me when I was 6
Trikkster why?
Lol me too!!!
Honestly, this just makes the Robinson's seem...idk, dark?
How it’s understandable and there theory has a flaw it would have happened with or without him he was going to end up with her he was going to be an inventor he was going to start a family it was going to happen they were scared that there family would be erased even Louis and he also enjoys his life so it’s okay
So one of the possible futures alter the past to make sure their timeline happens? This sounds like some rick and morty episode lol.
This is my favorite Disney movie ever! And I love this theory to!
7:39 "KEEP BAKING DEM' COOKIES!" (if you watched the movie you'd know where this quote came from)
These videos are pure gold. You deserve more subs!
A theory on *Get Out* would be amazing ʕ•ﻌ•ʔ
This will be a great story to tell me some day" me:wait what? "Repeats" me: -_- hmmm "dun dun done sound goes off" me: :0 BOI WE COUGHT YOU!!!
Frankie’s frogs bear an alarmingly striking resemblance to Mr. Flippers from hoodwinked
Hang on just a sec... that might even explain the name of the movie itself.
Meet the Robinsons. Thats what the plot was all about. The purpose of it all.
Meet the Robinsons....
But it wouldn’t work with it’s philosophy to move on forward
@@j0an-07-arc6
Well after his experience he can keep moving forward to that timeline
Yes but lewis is second name is robinsons so he could have had his birth mother and her family because all the other arnt related and have differerent second names
Actually you do realize if Dorris was never invented the the memory machine that Luise worked on would've never been wrecked in the first place there for he would've had no other reason to get Wilber to take him to the future😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼
exactly the only reason the memory scanner didn't work the first time was bc Doris unscrewed something. But if she was never invented everything would have ran smoothly. So, that means the whole reason Wilbur came to get Lewis was to fix the problem/ future that Doris created. That's it.
"this is a great movie"
* Checks date to see if in april *
No but seriously it is good movie
i see the long run time of this video and i automatically like. also, meet the robinsons is one of my fave childhood movies
I watched it once when I was a kid and I didn’t understand a single scene
I only remember the movie since i had a DvD of it i was young and i remember the title called "Meet the Robinsons" now here i am i finally get the movie
That was the best UA-cam ending EVER!
Well... that was creepy
5:42 She thought he was from another family she knew, or at least that's the context of the "family cowlick".
The thing about them saving Lewis from the T. rex is that if Lewis died there, then that future wouldn't exist, so Wilber wouldn't exist to go back and bring him to the future so him going to the future wouldn't happen and he couldn't die, it is a paradox
The music, at the end, got really creepy. I was so scared.
Of course they will do anything just for Lewis to live! Because if the past is gone, there is no future.
The damn ending fucking spooked the hell outta me ;-;
NOW I SEE THEM ALL AS VERY DISTURBING AND NIGHTMARISH CARTOONS!
I don't think you do game theories, but CAN YOU PLEASE THEORIZE FRAN BOW
He's done game theories before like minecraft, Pokemon: Mystery Dungeon, Zelda, and Jetpack joyride
phan of dodie he needs to do that next
Why the creepy music though?
You make the most serious vids but you narating just a whole new level
This theory video is BRILLIANT!! I watched the Meet the Robinsons movie yesterday,it is an amazing movie,i loved the story and this is how i found your video!
This theory is pretty good but i hope it isn't true because that is kinda dark as are most fan theories
How is it dark??
FanOf Everything It isn't DARK, necessarily. There isn't any ill-intent from the Robinsons, just the plan to make sure this future exists.
FanOf Everything it isn't dark but I understand what you mean. It just has that feeling.
its just the background theme playing
tho this is better than getting invaided by hats
tru
10 Year Anniversary! Also I did notice one little detail, when Franny tells Wilbur that he is grounded until he dies, she probably means until they cease to exist. That's what I think.
This theory literally fixes the time travelling plot hole in this movie. Its canon in my head.
My sister had a similar theory and the thing that really convinced me was the mom saying
“We’re all family here”
When she tries to take his hat off
I recently rewatched the movie and this theory fits
All I got from the movie was time traveling Alabamians
“This would be a great story to tell me some day”
Oh shit forget I said that!
I had my own theory that Cornelius (future Lewis) knew that all of this needed to happen, but also knew that everyone knowing might cause more variable mistakes, therefore not mentioning his time travel story to anyone.
The one thing that always struck me as odd was when Wilbur told his story of his father "Waking up in a cold sweat, and wanting to build a time machine..." .... Just like that? I think he knew of some threat (Doris, maybe) that was growing faster than he anticipated, so his "cold sweat" was him worried the time machine wouldn't be ready in time for the timeline/past lewis to come and help.
Of course, the one glaring plot hole is, if he knew how big of a threat Doris was, why did he ever build her?
Well....I was waiting for some sort of jumpscare at the end tho🤣very creepy music and theories 👍
You deserve £1k every video you make. The effort you put in is amazig. Keep it up
Does this means he him self lives in multiple time lines and for say when a time line is ruptured as the Robinsons try to prevent because he helps the person that had Doris so in one he stayed asleep and in another he helped,thus deleting the first and say the effects are disinigrating then the one they try so hard to save is deleted by luis
12:01 But first, we need to talk about PARARELL TIMELINES AND UNIVERSES
6:05 now that's kinky.
Lol XD
The Book that inspired the Movie called “A Day With Wilber Robinson was released in 1990, and they went 30 years in the future in the book. So Meet The Robinsons Future should be about 2020, it’s 2020 Wilber should be bringing Lewis to the future any day now.
SO GOOD. blew my mind. When I first watched this I didnt really second guess it until watching it a second time and then after watching this it makes complete sense! you filled every aspect of the theory including the multiverse which was incredible to think you went that far. This is such a complex animation. I think the creators would be surprised and would hire you if they found this video! Good work!
You forgot about one of most important questions: did Lewis ever used memory scaner to see his mom? Mayby he went back to the past and saw her or found her in time perion between his young and older version we see in movie?
This Movie Is Nearly 10 Year's Old Now.
Hey theroizer i have a theory about coraline .In the book it said she hates spiders witch is why i think the other mother made the floor a web
Eyyyyyy jeffyyyy
Okay but theorizer, i craft and write for like 14 hours a day almost every day as a paid artist and DM. I almost never stop working. My relaxing is crafting. I do believe that certain people are just mad by their creativity
I love your voice. It's calming to me
the theorizer:
the writers: it's just a movie bro.