Fr, Abyssmare just popped out of nowhere and we’re just to accept that they’re more powerful than the 6 units we’ve watch develop so much over the past 2 years???
I kinda wished they kept them as villains… it made the story more interesting (and I liked their music more when they were villains). I think I’m a bit salty that they got 3rd anni cards and Aoi didn’t lol
It was bull that there was no clear winner for the Abyssmare challenge, but I happy that Michiru finally was acknowledged and got her own unit that has a good theme. But Abyssmare slaps so hard so it sucks but they had their own story that wasn’t as bad as
My main problem with Abyssmare is that they just... came out of nowhere. Despite the 2nd anniversary highly focused on UniMare, it seems that Abyssmare's development was rushed, thus not giving me the time to care about the characters. Also now that I think thanks to your points, even though CoA gets little to no content, they still had an impact on other units (Shano for Photon, Airi for HapiAra) I don't know if I want to keep up with the stories, if anything I'm more here for the music (Even though Abyssmare is my least favorite unit by default, I must admit there are some of their songs I like)
Another thing I want to mention, it's that speaking of their music, I was highly disappointed by their debut song. I was expecting something aggressive (like Rondo but much more heavy metal), but instead got some mediocre K-Pop sounding song. I mean it's not a problem, it just doesn't match their concept. When I heard their cover of Red Fraction, I wish that was how their debut song was like. (I know it's not heavy metal but it got that aggressive feeling) That said, Winner, I Am The Best and Take Me On are the only Abyssmare originals I like.
this video is the best. honestly. you literally explained why i felt kinda iffy when abyssmare was first added in AND ALSO explained why CoA and photon are better in a way. you managed to put words into how i felt about photon in first mix and just CoA's very large effect in the story. good job chorki!
I feel like the side nova stories exhibited a host of issues in terms of writing, another big problem is dj powerscaling(yea I’m serious). Okay so the first story established that while Happy Around was very skilled, Peaky was simply better and more experienced and Photon were the big dogs. But Side Nova: Photon Maiden just tells us that Peaky is actually like better than PM? Which doesn’t make sense, Peaky is good don’t get it twisted but PM literally has Shano as a mentor and a whole company backing them. That and Abyssmare pulling right the fuck out of nowhere and just being the “best” it’s fine if they’re skilled but hidden but they’re supposed to famous and stuff so it’s just confusing.
I don’t like Abyssmare cuz: 1. Way too Neo centered feel like a Neo harem instead of a proper unit 2. neo received zero consequences for her dickhead moves 3.Cannot relate to members being so attracted to Neo like what is good about her apart from she is a genius and really pretty. I enjoy abyssmare members story when there isn’t Neo cuz they finally feel like human instead of ai(not Lumina) that praises Neo everyday for 24hours
You make some insanely good points. Those points, and the fact that everyone but sophia is a complete piece of human garbage is the reason i also DESPISE abyssmare. D4fes. is supposed to be fun and supportive of everyone, but abyssmare is so egotistical that its almost comedic. I don't care how "good" they are. I just wanna see everyone have fun and develop in their own ways.
Honestly so glad about this video. Really gives you a new perspective and appreciation for CoA, but it also makes me sad that they’re shafted so badly!
And what’s worse is that they try to do a redemption arc after they get their asses beat by Unichord. No. Shut up. I don’t care about their arc. You introduced them as villains, might as well keep them that way.
If you remove the story and look at Abyssmare in a vacuum, I'm ok with them as a unit. They exist, they make music. That's cool. But they lost *all* credibility with me when they revealed that they're even more f--king kids that get enrolled in Yoba at the end. Like even if they are that young when they become #1 in the USA, their compulsory education would look different than people that make music *through* their academy.
Before Abyssmare: Middle school USA After Abyssmare: Highschool Japan It's would be better if Abyssmare is in college rather than high school students or younger
The thing that bothers me is that Artemis was so hyped up, they win D4Fes and then just disappear. Then Abbyssmare comes along. Was Artemis written out so Abyssmare can "Dominate"? Which sounds stupid af. Even Unichord was kinda built up with Michiru. My first Impression of Abyssmare was like really bad, but they became meh after side nova. (Also I am relatively new and havent read event stories. So maybe there is something I should know but dont)
A similar thing happened in wrestling such as Roman Reigns winning the Universal Championship as soon as he returns and keeping it for 1316 days. I think it's they way they're written (or in wrestling terms, booked) why you don't like them. Abyssmare weaseled their way to the top, but the mysteries on why or how have not been unfolded. I personally love Abyssmare, because they have a lot of bangers (especially WINNER), the seiyuus are beautiful, Elsie's Seiyuu is Filipino, and I actually came back to the D4DJ fandom. The last one is probably the biggest factor. Let it simmer a little bit, because I'm waiting for D4DJ Nova Mix (Yes, I made that name up) so I can learn more about them and Unichord. Please educate me if there are things I don't know much about
Abyssmare fills their role just fine in my opinion. I love CoA to death, but they're barely active and you can't make them antagonist or even a goal to surpass if you can't really get songs or live performances out of them. Unichord needed someone to act as their foil and you can't really do that with the original units, because doing so would disrupt their balance of being relatively equal with each other. They wanted to create stakes, but didn't want any of the old units to get consumed. In an ideal story everyone is given time to develop, but sometimes you just need to toss characters in to make waves. Personally I think they didn't go far enough with them, too half hearted. They should have been beating groups(not even the main ones) left and right and we could have set up a new group in the future where they're composed of people whose groups disbanded after losing to Abyssmare.
In conclusion, yes I am just salty that they won for no reason.
Fr, Abyssmare just popped out of nowhere and we’re just to accept that they’re more powerful than the 6 units we’ve watch develop so much over the past 2 years???
leaves a poor taste in your mouth
only the real ones read the thumbnail as "why they why they worked didn't"
I kinda wished they kept them as villains… it made the story more interesting (and I liked their music more when they were villains).
I think I’m a bit salty that they got 3rd anni cards and Aoi didn’t lol
Same, Ibuki third anni WHEN
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CoA has history with us, meanwhile Abyss does not
It was bull that there was no clear winner for the Abyssmare challenge, but I happy that Michiru finally was acknowledged and got her own unit that has a good theme. But Abyssmare slaps so hard so it sucks but they had their own story that wasn’t as bad as
This was a great, well thought out, and extremely well written video. I can understand why you hate them. Quality content as always, keep it up!
My main problem with Abyssmare is that they just... came out of nowhere.
Despite the 2nd anniversary highly focused on UniMare, it seems that Abyssmare's development was rushed, thus not giving me the time to care about the characters.
Also now that I think thanks to your points, even though CoA gets little to no content, they still had an impact on other units (Shano for Photon, Airi for HapiAra)
I don't know if I want to keep up with the stories, if anything I'm more here for the music (Even though Abyssmare is my least favorite unit by default, I must admit there are some of their songs I like)
Another thing I want to mention, it's that speaking of their music, I was highly disappointed by their debut song. I was expecting something aggressive (like Rondo but much more heavy metal), but instead got some mediocre K-Pop sounding song. I mean it's not a problem, it just doesn't match their concept.
When I heard their cover of Red Fraction, I wish that was how their debut song was like. (I know it's not heavy metal but it got that aggressive feeling)
That said, Winner, I Am The Best and Take Me On are the only Abyssmare originals I like.
this video is the best. honestly. you literally explained why i felt kinda iffy when abyssmare was first added in AND ALSO explained why CoA and photon are better in a way. you managed to put words into how i felt about photon in first mix and just CoA's very large effect in the story. good job chorki!
I feel like the side nova stories exhibited a host of issues in terms of writing, another big problem is dj powerscaling(yea I’m serious). Okay so the first story established that while Happy Around was very skilled, Peaky was simply better and more experienced and Photon were the big dogs. But Side Nova: Photon Maiden just tells us that Peaky is actually like better than PM? Which doesn’t make sense, Peaky is good don’t get it twisted but PM literally has Shano as a mentor and a whole company backing them. That and Abyssmare pulling right the fuck out of nowhere and just being the “best” it’s fine if they’re skilled but hidden but they’re supposed to famous and stuff so it’s just confusing.
This means that Abyssmare will be a villain.
I don’t like Abyssmare cuz:
1. Way too Neo centered feel like a Neo harem instead of a proper unit
2. neo received zero consequences for her dickhead moves
3.Cannot relate to members being so attracted to Neo like what is good about her apart from she is a genius and really pretty.
I enjoy abyssmare members story when there isn’t Neo cuz they finally feel like human instead of ai(not Lumina) that praises Neo everyday for 24hours
Yeah, feels like all of abyssmare hinges on whether or not you like neo.
That makes Neo as my least favourite Abyssmare character now. I just can't stand her ego anymore.
You like Neo because she's May'n. It's that easy.
I always hated Abyssmare but couldn't really tell why, and this just phrases it perfectly. Thank you :)
You make some insanely good points. Those points, and the fact that everyone but sophia is a complete piece of human garbage is the reason i also DESPISE abyssmare. D4fes. is supposed to be fun and supportive of everyone, but abyssmare is so egotistical that its almost comedic. I don't care how "good" they are. I just wanna see everyone have fun and develop in their own ways.
Honestly so glad about this video. Really gives you a new perspective and appreciation for CoA, but it also makes me sad that they’re shafted so badly!
i don't really care about the lore anymore i'm just here for unichord being silly
Based
valid asf
And what’s worse is that they try to do a redemption arc after they get their asses beat by Unichord. No. Shut up. I don’t care about their arc. You introduced them as villains, might as well keep them that way.
Abyssmare = the dirt on the street in downtown Chicago.
If you remove the story and look at Abyssmare in a vacuum, I'm ok with them as a unit. They exist, they make music. That's cool. But they lost *all* credibility with me when they revealed that they're even more f--king kids that get enrolled in Yoba at the end. Like even if they are that young when they become #1 in the USA, their compulsory education would look different than people that make music *through* their academy.
Before Abyssmare: Middle school USA
After Abyssmare: Highschool Japan
It's would be better if Abyssmare is in college rather than high school students or younger
3:29 Toka: "likes water"
What a based choice of words
I got caught off guard from that ngl
The thing that bothers me is that Artemis was so hyped up, they win D4Fes and then just disappear. Then Abbyssmare comes along. Was Artemis written out so Abyssmare can "Dominate"? Which sounds stupid af. Even Unichord was kinda built up with Michiru.
My first Impression of Abyssmare was like really bad, but they became meh after side nova. (Also I am relatively new and havent read event stories. So maybe there is something I should know but dont)
i like how Toka is just there because she likes water 😅
I wanted more call of artemis cards >:)
A similar thing happened in wrestling such as Roman Reigns winning the Universal Championship as soon as he returns and keeping it for 1316 days. I think it's they way they're written (or in wrestling terms, booked) why you don't like them. Abyssmare weaseled their way to the top, but the mysteries on why or how have not been unfolded.
I personally love Abyssmare, because they have a lot of bangers (especially WINNER), the seiyuus are beautiful, Elsie's Seiyuu is Filipino, and I actually came back to the D4DJ fandom. The last one is probably the biggest factor.
Let it simmer a little bit, because I'm waiting for D4DJ Nova Mix (Yes, I made that name up) so I can learn more about them and Unichord.
Please educate me if there are things I don't know much about
Pretty much agree here. I do like winner and bye lullaby a LOT. I just feel like a bit of more of an in universe justification was necessary-
As a diehard CoA fan, this video is the truth. Abyssmare < Call of Artemis 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I just don't like side:nova in general, d4fes usa is so rushed I'm disappointed even as a relatively new player
And i still don't like unimare
COA ended up beating Abyssmare🤭
The Toka Takao #1 fan agrees
Nah
Trash or nah, they had Dope Music tho (Well I like RONDO and Peaky better)
Idc they're still one of the best units in this whole game
Abyssmare fills their role just fine in my opinion. I love CoA to death, but they're barely active and you can't make them antagonist or even a goal to surpass if you can't really get songs or live performances out of them. Unichord needed someone to act as their foil and you can't really do that with the original units, because doing so would disrupt their balance of being relatively equal with each other. They wanted to create stakes, but didn't want any of the old units to get consumed. In an ideal story everyone is given time to develop, but sometimes you just need to toss characters in to make waves.
Personally I think they didn't go far enough with them, too half hearted. They should have been beating groups(not even the main ones) left and right and we could have set up a new group in the future where they're composed of people whose groups disbanded after losing to Abyssmare.