D.E. Filter Tips, Tricks & Troubleshooting
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This video basically covers everything you need to know about your D.E. filter. I have various videos on specific cleaning of these filters by brand and some videos on backwashing. All of these can be found in this playlist:
D.E. Filter cleaning, Backwashing & Tips:
• D.E. Filter cleaning, ...
The D.E. filter is the best of the bunch as far as filtration goes. It is typically harder to clean however but you get the hang of it fast. I like D.E. filters mainly for their filter clarity, reliability and efficiency.
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Cleaning a D.E. filter Top Manifold (Jandy, FNS, Hayward, Titan) D.E. leaking into pool: • Cleaning a D.E. filter...
Cleaning a Pentair FNS Plus Filter & Troubleshooting: • Cleaning a Pentair FNS...
Cleaning a Hayward Pro-Grid, Micro-Clear, Super Star-Clear D.E. Filter: • Cleaning a Hayward Pro...
American Products D.E. Filter (CM, RPM & SS), cleaning a: • Cleaning an American P...
Backwashing your pool filter: • Backwashing your pool ...
Backwash Valve troubleshooting, changing the piston: • Backwash Valve trouble...
Backwash Your D.E. Filter - The Ultimate Guide: • How To Backwash Your D...
Backwash Valve Leaking or Stiff -Replacing the Stem O-rings: • Filter Backwash Valve ...
D.E. Filter Tips, Tricks & Troubleshooting: • D.E. Filter Tips, Tric...
Perlite Filter Media vs. D.E. (Diatomaceous earth) Filter Media: • Perlite Filter Media v...
Perlite Filter Media Filter Cleaning & Backwashing Part 2 of 2: • Perlite Filter Media F...
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Another well-produced how-to video from the consummate pool tech/videographer. Love that new, anodized, all-aluminum Multi-Tork socket and that Button-Hook drain plug wrench!
Thanks for the quick reply. Recent owner of a new house with pool. Have learned a lot from your videos! Thanks!
Sure thing. 👍
Thanks for all of the great pool videos!! I am a new pool owner and your videos are very helpful. Slowly but surely I am learning how my pool system works!
Your very welcome! 👍
I found an easy way to reinstall DE filter pads that needs to be shared. I don’t do videos so perhaps you can add this to one of yours. I was one of those who struggled with getting my Hayward filter pads realigned after taking them off the manifold. There was always one or two that would leak DE back into the pool on completion. I thought one or more may have torn but it turned out the filter pads weren’t seated properly to the manifold. I found it by running the pump in the backwash mode (cover off) and seeing water leaking from several of the connections. After disassembling I turned the manifold upside down, started with the short pad and worked clockwise outside to inside making sure all pads were well seated into the manifold and there correct spacers. The hardest part was getting the long bolt back into the manifold hole and it wasn’t that bad. All in all this was a much easier task than working from the normal position and no leaks or DE back into my pool. As a side note, I almost purchased a new filter set at $100 plus.
Thank you so much for these videos. They really do help the DIY'er to save money and be self sufficient.
Thanks for the positive feedback! 👍👍
It's 36 square foot filter. Tried a few different amounts so far. What do you recommend?
D.E. Filter Tips, Tricks & Troubleshooting: I've become an expert with these filters by default after cleaning over a thousand of them over the years. D.E. is still the best filter type but there is a learning curve. This video will familiarize you with the D.E. Filtration System
yo i just bought a house and it had a de filter thing is 600$ brand new thought it was crap your vid helped me so much got my pool lookin hella different in a day thanks
This video is very informative. Thanks!
Great vids! I just started working for a pool company doing as a service tech, what would be the best all around mask to wear? Like opening the tab towers and or d.e
I've been using the Vogmask for the last couple of years. It is not rated as a chemical mask as in industrial use and such but works fine with DE and opening up those Rainbow Death Traps ;). I also use it when I add shock but get lazy with Acid since I add it all day. FYI - the worst ever is a bucket of 3" tablet that is full of water and tabs - taking the lid off is deadly... Vogmasks are reusable and easy to put on and take off. Vogmask.com
Thanks very informative. I have just started working for a pool company and have 3 DE filters on my route.
Right on. Good luck out there.
Thanks . I'll be watching your videos for sure.
You are awesome for posting these great and helpful videos
Thanks for the great feedback! 👍
Well done instructions, thanks for the tips!
Dude your videos are super cool easy to follow !!! I'm new pool owner
Hi,
Like how your channel is organized, I have an automotive diy channel very similar.
I do my own svc 20+ years. Hayward DE 60 cf filter. The grid always hangs up on the "riser pipe" when I try to pull it out. I am a strong guy. I always lube well with silicone & do this every 6 mos. or so.
Any tip on how to lessen the way that top grid sticks to the pipe? When I examine it I don't see anything wrong. Should I replace that o ring every time? Maybe stuff is getting past it and "welding" the id/od of the plastic together?
Thanks!
froggy47
Nice Channel! I watch a lot of car repair videos on UA-cam. Got a 12 yr old Frontier with 200K and a 1999 Lexus with 180K 😀
I find Hayward filters to be the tightest filters and have had my share of trouble with them. Sometimes replacing the Top Manifold solves the issue. The newer ones seem to have a looser fit.
Any idea why DE filter would all of the sudden lose pressure. I cleaned it out completely about two months ago and haven't done a backwash in a while. Went to look at the filter and pump today, the pump was not sucking in enough water (as though something clogged the line). I'm going to take the filter apart today and cleaning it out completely hoepfully this will solve the issue
I watch/like your videos. Thank you for posting. I have a question. What if, one time, you open filter and then close it with out cleaning rim where o-ring lies and don't lube the ring?
+petesasauce If no water is leaking you should be fine. The o-ring may stretch out and need to be replaced at your next cleaning. Not a big deal really. Lubing it makes the lid easier to get on and extends the life of the o-ring.
Great information love your videos.
Very informative. Well done.
I gotta say this was an awesome video! Thanks so much!
Thank you very much for these videos. This is the second video I have found and has been helpful. The level of detail and advice is great. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
First off thanks for posting these videos! We bought a home with a pool and we have a Pentair FNS Plus 60 DE filter and knew zero about maintaining a pool:/ We are having an issue with our backwash and filter valve I think... When the valve is up and in backwash mode it works fine when pump is on and dirty water comes out of the waste pipe, but when we put the valve back down for filter mode it spins a couple times and we turn on the pump so it can filter like normal but water still shoots out of the waste pipe causing our water level to fall. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Or should I bite the bullet and call a service tech? Thanks so much again for helping newbies like us to maintain our pool, you're awesome! :)
+iLoveTicininos If it is a push pull piston type - the o-rings are worn letting water through - simple change the o-rings and you should be fine: Backwash Valve Leaking or Stiff -Replacing the Stem O-rings: ua-cam.com/video/ODRMh8B6cHI/v-deo.html
Sealed off the whole and that took care of the issue. Thanks for your help.
Great! 👍
Always a great video. Ty. Question, I had DE in my pool cleaner , Polaris 360, filter/ housing. Never saw that before. What could have caused this? ty.
It could just be residual from cleaning the filter. I always like to disconnect the cleaners from the return line or booster pump lines for 2-3 minutes after restarting a DE filter after cleaning. If you notice this as a continuous issue there may be a small tear in the grid.
Ty Sir for the super fast reply. You are amazing. Love all the videos. I am a fairly recent inground pool owner & your vids have helped a lot.
Thanks for putting this together. I've been maintaining my pool for that past 5 years. Your tips and examples were every concise and helpful.
I keep on having to backwash after roughly 1-2 days. My return jets have low presssure even when my PSI is at around 12 which is when it is charged. I have a 48 sq ft filter and put in 6 scoops to fully charge it, 4-5 scoops after a backwash. I literally have tried everything and watched every video and can not find out why I have such low pressure at my return jets. Can you please help
Great video, I have sand filter and I don`t know what is the better filter; sand or D.E.. Thanks
Thanks for the great feedback! DE, in my opinion, is better. 👍
Thanks a bunch , this is a great video , appreciate the quality info
Great video. Have a question. I have a Hayward filter. When I start it up the pressure is great, however after 15 min the pressure goes down ( not on the gauge but through the return ) Any tips to correct this?
Sounds like an air leak by the pump. Do you notice any water around the pump?
@@SPL ahhh. Yes I do. Under the pump their is usually a small puddle of water. I will check it out and report back. Thank you so much.
Hi. I’m trying to decide between the pentair 4000 series or the quad hybrid cartridge filter. Which do you prefer? Thanks.
I really like the Quad DE filters. Very easy to clean. 4000 Series is good too. Quad DE filter is also less expensive. If it was my pool I would go with the Quad DE.
Thanks helpful as usual
@Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL I have a minor leak from Nautilus NS49 stainless steel tank's bottom. Suspect it's the bulkhead O-ring or the locknut or and spacer where the drain pipe connects with the tank. Do I need to lift the bottom half entirely to change the bulkhead o-ring? Is it locked by the locknut from inside the tank? I cannot find any relevant information online for this particular matter. Thanks a lot in advance.
Yes, you will have to cut the filter out to change that part. A real hassle.
Thank you for sharing and advice. When I turn my pump on, my Pentair FNS filter shoots water from the metal belt/clamp area, can you advise why
If it is a brand new filter Pentair has a bunch of defective clamps. If it is older probably just the o-ring
I have a PentAir 2000 try to dismantle it this time I’ve been using your instructions for a while it’s always worked, but this time around it’s extra clogged and I can’t seem to budge the filters out they are stuck. The filter was turned off for a week while the pool tiles are being redone is there a trick to loosen them up so they will come out. Thanks!
Just wiggle the grids back and forth. They will pop off. If you fill the bottom with water that will also loosen them up.
What is the difference between back washing with a hose and back washing into the sewer? My system is permanently plumbed into the sewer and I haven't seen any like that online.
Do you ever have difficultys trying to close a Jandy filter clamp back on? The filter clamp won’t close all the way and as a result, the bolt to the clamp doesn’t reach the other end of the clamp. I used my mallet and that didn’t work. So I had to use my channel locks to forcefully “close” the ends of the clamp together. This process took me 3.5 hours. What gives? Is this a sign of a bad filter clamp. So far, all my Jandy filters are having the same issues.
Great tutorial. My question is ,why do i constantly be doing a back wash on my d.e filter to get good pressure. I cleean the grids add the appropriate amounts of d.e powder and still have to do a back hours later. Im lost need help .
I think it is time to change the grids. That should do the trick.
When vacuuming pool bottom the filter gets full, I back wash it several times and continue to vacuum then backwassh pool again and I repeat these steps, do I have to use DE powder on every back wash or just at the end when I complete all the vacuuming?
Maybe just after the last time
Hi Sir, I have some commercial swimming pools with d.e. elements that are getting clogged with body oils and such, what would you recommend I use for a really could cleaning ? thank you for your site and help.
That can be a problem. I would sneak a few Rola-Chem Scumbugs into the pool skimmers at these Commercial Accounts. The Health Department probably won't even notice.
there`s only scum gutters, no skimmers, I`m at the point where the elements are getting clogged, I`m in need of a cleaner of some type.
I have series 2000 filter, 60sf. The manifold was replaced a week ago but I am still getting blowback into the pool. I noticed on my old manifold that there was no bleeder hose attached and it was closed off with silicone. The new manifold has the hole but it is not closed off, was this an oversight by the pool tech? Is this why I am getting the blowback? I would assume so but hey, I'm not a pool tech. Please help. Love your channel, this has been my new go to channel. Forgot to mention that I have new filter grids, installed Memorial Day weekend, new manifold installed last week, but the pool is not clean because of the blowback. I vacuum it and it goes right back into the pool. Thanks again.
Could be coming from the air bleeder hose not being in there. But usually it is only a small amount. I wonder if one of the grids is not placed in the bottom manifold correctly.
thanks, I will check this out. Also where do you buy your perlite? Is it available at retail? I am in South Orange County.
Hello. This is my first year with a inground de filter pool. Open it, cleaned it, cleaned de filter, and added de powder. Now the problem. Filter runs great except when in filter mode. Seems to work ok for awhile and then slows down. The water slows coming out of pool jets and going into skimmer. What do I have to do to get this right? Please help me. Thank you.
Not sure, very odd. How much DE did you add - what is the filter size?
Pressure going up perhaps
Where Can I Pick Up The Tool That You Used For The Bottom Pool Plug On The DE Filter Tank????
www.eaquacare.com/PW-150-Pool-Filter-Drain-Plug-Wrench-p/eacpw-150.htm
@@SPL that link is no longer :(
Nice video.
What would be the best no hassle media today in case of algea problems ? Glass ?
DE is still the best against algae.
@@SPL thanks for the feedback !
Hi we have a Jandi 48 filter. The pool was fine a day ago today the pool was cloudy we backwashed it and added de. However the pressure built up again after 30 minutes. The chemicals in the pool are fine. Dont understand why pool is cloudy. Grids are fairly new. Is there anything else we should check? We cleaned grids and filter pool again still after minutes pressure built up again. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
There could be a ripped grid. Sometimes it is hard to see. Or a crack on the manifold.
Applying your tips
Great video!!!!
Hello there I have a quick question for you I have a pentair DE filter system for my pool my question is not about the de or the filters but the outside cosmetic of the filter housing itself it's cosmetic is son beaten and badly worn when I touch it and makes my skin itch real bad is there any spray or paint coating that I can use to coat it??? Thank you very much. Any advice and tips would be greatly appreciated.
The fiberglass wears out over time. The only solution is to use industrial strength Saran Wrap and wrap the entire lid in it.
@@SPL there's gotta be another way.
I have DE leaking back into my pool. I have a PLD70 model. The star filter pad looks great. No holes, no tears. Yet, tons of DE is still getting back into my pool. I think the filter module port which connects to the filter holster isn't sealing properly; and thus, DE is bypassing my filter. How can I make this seal tighter? Again, it's that hole I see when I take the filter out which leads back to the pool and I think my filter module isn't sealed well to that port. It never has since I've bought this house. I'm tempted to use waterproof sealant to try and narrow any gaps. What would you recommend? Thanks!
Okay, I just went to this site and he confirmed what I feared. The "neck" of the grid should fit snugly into the manifold. How do I seal this though? :-( www.clean-pool-and-spa.com/de-leakage-into-pool-de-powder-returning-to-pool.html
I would have to see some photos of what you are referring to. You can send them directly to me: swimmingpoollearning@gmail.com
Hey david i got me a posi flo with the stainless still tank i
Got the 100 sq ft they had a 135 sq ft is thier much of a difference between the two
Not much difference.
I have a torn grid, can I buy a off brand filter grids or should I stick to pentair?
Any brand is good.
This helps a lot with self maintenance. 👍
Any thoughts on why a Am Standard DE Filter would disengage the top from the bottom? It's blown off twice. Thanks. Great video.
Might be time for a new clamp
@@SPL Wow. Thanks for the prompt response. I’m looking now but need to make sure it’s the correct part. This clamps are expensive! Thx again.
I just opened my pool and it full of algae. I shocked it and turned on the pump and and filled my DE filter. The pump/filter seems to run fine for a couple of hours and then the pressure builds up ~15psi and the water stops flowing. I opened up the filter and cleaned it witha hose without removing the grids. Added 4 lbs for my 48 filter. After it ran nicely for a few hours, the same problem happened. I backwashed for ~20 seconds until I see the DE coming out (it's still clean and white), then turn the filter back on, and it starts running normally again. What do you think could be causing the blockage? I am unable to pull the entire manifold up because it's stuck tight in the pipe. also could not take off the nut so I could take off the top section. If you dont' know, what would you recommend that I try. Thank you, I enjoyed your video.
It could be that the large amount of algae is clogging the DE filter. They tend to clog quickly with algae dust. It sounds like your pool has a multi-port valve. I would purchase what they call Floc. Aluminum Sulphate. Pool Floc. Add about 6-8 lbs and run the pool in recirculate for 1 hour. Then leave the pool off for 48 hours. Once everything drops to the bottom manually vacuum it out with multi-port on "waste Mode." That should do it.
@@SPL Thank you! My daughter works for Leslies - I'll give her that tip. :-)
if no DE is added, could that cause the pressure to be high? i soaked my Haywatd finger in the half water/acid solution overnight and rinsed thefilter off but pressure starts at 15 and not too long after goes to about 24 PSI. Is 24 PSI too high?
Yes, proper level of DE is important.
what do you recommend if you clean your DE filter and the pressure is great for about 2 hours, then the gauge says the filter needs to be cleaned again. Backwashing at this point returns everything to the "green" category, but after about 4 hours, the gauge once again says the filter needs to be cleaned? This has been going on for 5 days with me now.
Yes, you will have to take the lid off and clean the filter. If the pool water is cloudy or murky also, that will cause the filter pressure to rise quickly. Hose off the grids, recharge the filter and see if the PSI stays good. If not new grids may be needed also.
Also, use correct amount of DE when you “powder” your cleaned filters. Too much DE will cause pressure to rise fast
What if the o-ring to the filter is brand new and I’m still struggling placing the top of the filter tank to “stay down” so it’s on top of the o-ring. It keeps “springing” up from the o ring. How can I get this resolved? I want the top part of my filter lid to remain down so I can place my band clamp on.
It takes some imagination. I usually hold the lid with one hand, brace the band between my legs, and use the other hand to put the spring barrel nut on.
I have some de filters that the plastic inside seemed to be snapping off but it still stays inside the cloth. Should I replace these?
I usually wait until the grids have actual tears in them - broken plastic usually indicates a lot of pressure in the filter - maybe your pump is too powerful for the filter size or the girds are really old. No need to change them until they tear.
After washing my Filters the pressure goes up to fast about 30mins I open up the filters and there clean. What so do you think could be being up my pressure up so fast..
Could be bad grids. If thy are over 4 years old replace them. If water is green or cloudy that would cause this also.
I have a Jacuzzi EW75. The metal rim band is very tight. I can't unloosen/femoce it from around the filter. I thought maybe not lubing the o-ring caused this, even after I removed air from it. I have a buddy coming over tomorrow to lend a hand. We'll use rubber malet, to try to loosen it up.
+petesasauce That is a pretty uncommon filter band. My guess is it is just stuck on their from the threads getting calcified when the filter gets wet. Maybe with two of you working on it you can get it to spin off. I would lube up those threads with some Silcone Magic Lube so that it won't get stuck on their next time.
Hi,
I has 9 years old Hayward DE6020, done with new grid and backwash. PSI 10-15 working.
When I leave Hayward controller in CIRCULATION, the water pressure is good; that's, water spillovers from spa to pool and in pool strong, compared to when I leave Hayward controller in FILTRATION with which water returns strong at beginning then weaker and weaker from both spa and pool.
Water in pool is still clear and good in chemicals. When I set 3-way outlet valve 70% spa and 40% pool, water returns better than 50/50, even though it's weaker eventually.
Please help. Thanks
Maybe you need new grids. If they are over 5 years old replace all 8.
Hello. pool guy here in AZ. where can I find the silicone spray you use? boss 615. I always use magic lube or boss820.
They sell it in Amazon.com but any RV grade silicone spray will work - Accumetric Silicone Spray Lubricant Boss 615 61512
+Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 awesome thanks. Yeah I saw at home depot a product called Blaster silicone lub. But didn't want to try on a whim... thanks again. really like the vids.
The manifold has a crack in it, I noticed it when they were cleaning grids. I added de to it while the manifold came in, some de leaked into pool, when I replace the manifold how much de do I add to replace what leaked out?
DE leaks can be deceiving. Meaning a little leak goes a long way. I would say you lost maybe 1 lbs. of DE at best.
If I am getting DE back in the pool will that mess up the heater or the Pump?
No, it won't damage the equipment.
At 2:10 you started the pump with no lid on. Is that a way to check for leaks on the top manifold??? Or grids?? O ask because i have some type of de leak majority of it is sitting in the bottom of the tank. So im guessing a de filter or top manifold is damaged.
I would remove the top manifold and inspect it carefully. Where the grinds snap in is also a likely spot.
How do I get the Pentair internal Air bleed screen to stop coming off tube. It is a very bad design because the tube has a very miniscule lip to keep the screen on. Every time I backwash, the screen comes off letting almost all the DE medium back into the pool.
Duct tape it on.
you can actually back fill pool with lid off without damaging anything. I often wondered if inside it was doing anything. I see water going out to street,but at end of process overall pressure not signifigantly impacted/lowered
Back-washing is pretty much a waste of time. What you get relative to the effort is far less than actually cleaning the filters. Not to mention, the additional cost of a backwash valve.
Is it worth replacing just the fabric surrounding the plastic and sewing a new sleeve. If so where can I get fabric ????
No. It is best to replace the entire grid. There really is no fabric available.
Is there a video or link on how to backwash a pool with a Venturi skimmer? The front of the skimmer blows DE all over the pool. Thank you!
Not to my knowledge. Cut that thing out and go with a cartridge filter. 😉👍
How concerned should I be with D.E. flowing back into my pool? I neglected to close the return valve before i started the pump back up and quite a lot of DE got into the pool before I noticed. I'm just learning how to do this and worried I can't use my pool now.
If you have a manual vacuum just vacuum the pool. DE is harmless once it is wet.
Thank you!
Is there anything that would cause water to come out under the tank? Bottom of tank cracked? (Haward DE-3600)
It might have a crack or it could be leaking from the bulk head unions.
Hello, I have a pentair system and I don't see the push pull valve to backwash. Any thoughts as to how I can backwash my system?
SINOI HALL What filter model do you have? Can you read the label and post it here?
Some systems are plumbed to backwash into the sewer line of your home. In this case, you might not have a push pull valve.
Hi,
When I run the filter the DE powder goes back to the pool. I uninstalled, open the whole thing, clean it, inspected, there;s no rips on the grids anywhere (it's a new set of grids just bought last year). What do I do wrong? what's might be a problem? Thank you for your help.
Could be a bad multiport.
MrCjdubz No. it’s a new one. I replaced the O-ring anyway but it wasn’t really necessary. Im just trying to troubleshoot all points.
I have a question! I recently bought a house with a pool this is my first one !! The pool has a Hayward pump and DE filter but the pressure is always 20 psi is that normal?
It should go up when it gets dirty. Maybe the gauge is not working.
Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL thanks bro for the quick reply!
@@DavidDiazXchangefd If you have a motor with 2 HP or more then that is the problem. You can solve this by downsizing the impeller inside the pump to a 1 HP or 1.5 HP . It will then move water a little slower thereby lowering filter pressure. You'll still have plenty of circulation in your pool.
Haha. Just watched your video. At the end when you are wearing a mask, I thought this was a new video and you had it on for the big virus scare.
My scoop also has a partially broken handle. Good idea to use tape. I'm an HVAC guy, so I think I can find some tape to fix it.
Yeah, the good news is I have a lot of masks already. N95, N98 you name it. 👍
Just learned from another of your videos that you are in the LA area. Grew up in San Gabriel valley, but have been in the San Diego area for a long time. Hope they end all this virus stuff soon.
I forgot to put my mask on... Then was coughing out dark jelly like substance 2 days later. Any concerns I should know about??
Can alot of debris on bottom of inground pool effect proper function of de filter?
Should have little effect on the filter. Just doesn't look nice.
do you add additional DE after backwashing?
Yes, about 1/2 what you add if you cleaned it
Hello, y DE Filter is leaking from the black pipe sitting on top of the filter....please advise.
That is a replaceable part. Just find your filter model or google search for an image of that air bleeder on top. Should be an easy fix.
why after i clean the filter and connect everything back and i turn it on and the manifold pops the inner line . the pressure is at 10 but the pool sweep is working and the suction is strong but the pressure gauge goes down to 4. why does it pop off thanks
Not sure what you are referring to...
Hello I have a pentair 2000 and seems to back wash the DE powder into the pool from the skimmer and the jets I went to Leslie's pool and took all my filters they said they were fine also on my lower manifold I was told I could put a plug on it but I still have that issue
+Jesse Meza That part can be plugged and the leak should stop - unless it is your rotor valve that is leaking - does the backwash valve handle move at all?
Yes it moves I also replaced the breather tube also the on the bottom of the rotor valve leaks
I cleaned the filter system and put it back together and it’s not building pressure any help?
It could be air in the line. Try clearing that out by priming your pump in spa mode if you have an attached spa or buy filling the suction line from the skimmer to the pump. A drain bladder on a garden hose if effective.
Bro i have a pentair purex 4000 series D.E FILTER & it leaves the D.E powder at the very bottom of the tank; WHAT COULD B THE PROBLEM? am I putting the D.E too fast?
DE tends to pile up on the bottom. As long as the grids are coated it is fine.
After add DE on pool i need clean de filter?
Gerardo Oxley Backwash every 3-4 months. Clean filter yearly, although he said he does the latter every 6 months.
Not 100% sure. No sticker on outside of filter. How can I find that out and how many gallons pool is. No paper work on anything. I'll try and find out and get back to you. Thank You.
That first opening of the filter showed way to much DE, it was caked on top of the manifold. Looks like excessive DE was put in or it was allowed to accumulate after backwashing.
That looked like a proper grid cleaning cuz anytime that I've ran my 4000 and it ran good for weeks & then after several months of running it i would clean it out in the end of summer & it would look similar to that filter. ALL GRIDS WOULD B CAKED ON THE OUTSIDE!
What if there is a separation tank? What do I need to do with the separation tank before backwashing? Open the air valve on top of the separation tank? Anything else? Thanks.
Those are problematic. I usually just take the lid off of those and let everything backwash out.
@@SPL Thanks!
How can i bleach them. My concrete didnt get put on time so my filters are brown even after putting chemicals on them
Maybe a light amount of acid/water mixture will help.
I replaced all the grids, but now 1 month later I see lots of dirt and green algae flowing back into the pool, why? What do I need to do?
Maybe the top manifold has a crack as well.
What's that tool you used that looked like a BIG wrench
Channel Locks
Clean it every 6 months LOL. I have been a pool guy for over 25 years and I have not taken apart and cleaned the DE filter at my house in over 12 years and the grids have not needed replaced either!!! I only have to backwash it about every 4-5 months if you know how to take care of a pool, your filter grids will last that long.
If it's maintaining its clean working pressure after backwash there's no need to do a DE breakdown. Only time you need to do a DE break down is if the grids did not get enough DE and they weren't protected, and the grids themselves got dirty instead of the DE, and then it lost its efficiency and can no longer get back to its clean working pressure after a backwash. That is when you would need to do a DE breakdown not before that though. I wouldn't do a DE breakdown until it went about 4- 6 PSI above its clean working pressure after backwashing. Quite literally you might never need to do a DE breakdown on it before the Grids need replaced if it doesn't go above that pressure threshold that I talked about. And if that was necessary then a commercial degreaser or an acid wash could help when cleaning the grids off if needed, if they are especially dirty or clogged with some substance, like suntan oil for example.
Customers ask me all the time how often do you need to clean the filter every week every two weeks every month? I tell them every time, there is no set time for a pool filter to be cleaned. The guys with PhD's in engineering designed them to be cleaned after a certain amount of rise in pressure over the clean working pressure on the pressure gauge. I think they know better than me and you, they're the ones that designed and built it, and they say to go by pressure as when to clean it. As a general rule of thumb once the pressure has went 6 PSI above the clean working pressure. If the pressure hasn't risen that far above the clean working pressure after backwashing, then the filters are operating as a they should be filtering perfectly well, within operating parameters, and their efficiency has not been sufficiently reduced to affect its filtering ability they're doing their job just fine it doesn't matter how dirty they look or how long it's been if the pressure is fine they're operating as they should be and filtering as they should be.
Also, there is a trick to make the grids last a long time they typically fail in a couple common areas. On the corners, and at the end of the tube on the bottom of the filter grid. If you put silicone on those areas into the mesh Off the Grid in those areas it will last long time and not fail for a very long time over typically DE grids.
Another example of why you should not break it down that often is the more you take it apart the more wear-and-tear you do on it, and the more likely something is going to break as you take it apart each time.
There is an old adage called if it's not broken don't fix it.
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In one part your video says 5 scoops of DE for a 48sq ft
BUT THEN shortly after you show 10 scoops???
Then you explain how too much or too little will cause problems.
This just leaves me very confused.
I have a Jandy DEV48
If possible could you clarify a suggested amount of DE
It depends on the scooper you are using. Some are 1/2 lbs of DE. So if you have the smaller scoop for your filter I would add 8 scoops or 4lbs total
Is there a filter name Dentacr Filter? I could not find a photo to see how it looks like. I have a pool and the pool guy told me that dirty water is returning back to the pool. What could the problem be? thanks.
Probably referring to this type of filter DE which is short for diatomaceous earth filter
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I hear dripping sound from within the bottom half, and wet floor. Checked the common places, metal clamps, valves, drain plug, air pressure relief valve, not leak there. Where could it be? And how do i check the bottom half?
It might be a crack in the housing.
How many scoops of D.e do I put for a 52sqf filter
7-8 scoops Pretty old filter! there.
I am confused… Ymaybe I’m missing something…you say one full scoop of that Aladdin DE scoop is 1 pound of DE product but then your graphic showing for a 48 inch grid screen requires 10 full scoops (and also says one full scoop = .5 lbs) so with my newly cleaned grids I know it needs 5 pounds of DE yet the Aladdin DE cup holds one pound of DE?? Wouldn’t 10 scoops equals 10 pounds if earlier you said the cup holds 1 pound of product?
Each Aladdin scoop is 1/2 lbs. of DE. Sorry for any confusion.
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Is it normal for a lot of the DE to be sitting on the bottom of the tank and not on the filters?
Sometimes if the flow to the filter is not great. Usually happens with a VS pump set on low speed.
I have washed my brand new de cartridge and pressures raised 20 psi in min what can cause that
How is the water clarity? Is the pool cloudy?
Yup we had the anthony de filter and we switched to the non de cartridge filter by pentair
Like cartridge better myself.
wil a leak at bottom smbw 2060 make spa drain back into pool after shut down,already replace check valve
Shouldn't cause that. What kind of valves do you have on the spa suction/pool suction line?
all jandy
What type of cartridge filter do you sue to replace purex smbw 2060
Either a 420 sq ft or 520 sq ft filter will give you the same flow and pool clarity.
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I'm the new pool girl. learning as I go. I know the DE is carcinogenic dry. And wear mask and gloves, eyewear when adding it. What about all the old DE that kind of got everywhere when I took filters apart and cleaned everything. Since we have no idea how many square feet the filters are-would the lady at leslies know if I measure the unit. We bought a HUD home.
Just measure the grids - 48 sq ft are 24" long - etc. The DE on the ground dry is supposed to be inert - but I think otherwise. Once it dries out it could still pose a hazard to your lungs. I switched to Perlite Media in all of my filters.
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