Me too, if by “friends” you mean “my dog”. He can be quite insightful every now and then, if a bit pedantic. Actually I’m starting to suspect that he could be illiterate, too embarrassed to broach the subject.
The chapter The Whiteness of the Whale reveals that Moby Dick is an allegory for God. Unlike Jonah who submits to God will, Ahab wants to destroy Gods will, or God Himself
@@lauraweiss7875 God’s will - Moby Dick - triumphs in the end. The only one to survive destruction and death is the one who submits to His will, Ishamel.
@@TruthSeeker-333but I mean, won’t Ishmael die eventually? I thought the point was that you cannot escape or defeat God/ Moby Dick/ Death. Or is the prolonging of death the reward for submitting to God’s will? I could be taking this too literally, but now I’m curious. Is moby dick meant to be representative of an indifferent God who cares little about man, or one who is involved and deliberate in man’s demise?
@@brody8782 Melville wrote to his friend N. Hawthorne that Ahab baptizing his created harpoon with blood in the name of the devil is the underlying theme of the novel. Moby Dick is a cautionary tale. like all the Old Testament books (particularly Jonah) and Milton’s Paradise Lost - no one escapes God’s will. Ahab remarks that he “Obeys God by disobeying Him,” like Satan, who by his disobedience became an instrument of an even greater good. Milton and Shakespeare and their themes heavily influenced Melville
I agree, Ahab is after the ungraspable, is seeking absolute knowledge. One of the world "philosophies" or spiritual traditions that teaches the way to "know" Truth or the Abolute is the path of Advaita Vedanta, which means "not two, not this, not this." It's a stripping away of all concepts, of anything and everything that depends on a perceiver, perception, and perceived. If you can speak of it anyway it isn't the truth. Ahab/Melville was after that of which cannot be spoken. "Moby Dick" is the log of his journey.
People miss the point. Its about the search for wisdom, remember it is Ishmael telling the story. His life circumstances have led him to embark on this voyage for the sake of pure enjoyment in worldly education. He knows in his heart that this voyage will be doomed. But it is through his detachment from Ahab's theology that he survives to tell the tale. Perhaps Melville slyly inserted a gnostic herothat successfully subverts the commands and prophecies of the Christian god while still gaining a deeper understanding of the universe and protection from hell, to show us the metaphysical path of true spirituality unbridled from Christian dialectics of good and evil
The guest goes a bit overboard with stretching the meaning of the whiteness of the whale. It's simple. The whiteness makes Moby Dick stand out as a special entity in it's size, and also as a malevolent force having personal grudges like Ahab purports.
Holy shit, its Herman Melville himself! Awesome!
In conversation with Friedrich Nietzsche...sans moustache.
This is the kind of conversation I have with my friends after five bong hits.
Damn I need cooler friends
Amen, Brother!
Me too, if by “friends” you mean “my dog”. He can be quite insightful every now and then, if a bit pedantic. Actually I’m starting to suspect that he could be illiterate, too embarrassed to broach the subject.
The chapter The Whiteness of the Whale reveals that Moby Dick is an allegory for God. Unlike Jonah who submits to God will, Ahab wants to destroy Gods will, or God Himself
And in destroying the myth, reveals the harshness of reality: death is inevitable.
@@lauraweiss7875 God’s will - Moby Dick - triumphs in the end. The only one to survive destruction and death is the one who submits to His will, Ishamel.
@@TruthSeeker-333but I mean, won’t Ishmael die eventually? I thought the point was that you cannot escape or defeat God/ Moby Dick/ Death. Or is the prolonging of death the reward for submitting to God’s will? I could be taking this too literally, but now I’m curious. Is moby dick meant to be representative of an indifferent God who cares little about man, or one who is involved and deliberate in man’s demise?
@@brody8782 Melville wrote to his friend N. Hawthorne that Ahab baptizing his created harpoon with blood in the name of the devil is the underlying theme of the novel. Moby Dick is a cautionary tale. like all the Old Testament books (particularly Jonah) and Milton’s Paradise Lost - no one escapes God’s will. Ahab remarks that he “Obeys God by disobeying Him,” like Satan, who by his disobedience became an instrument of an even greater good. Milton and Shakespeare and their themes heavily influenced Melville
Loved your interpretations, mine was quite similar and it's interesting to hear it reiterated.
Deep.insights thank you.
I agree, Ahab is after the ungraspable, is seeking absolute knowledge. One of the world "philosophies" or spiritual traditions that teaches the way to "know" Truth or the Abolute is the path of Advaita Vedanta, which means "not two, not this, not this." It's a stripping away of all concepts, of anything and everything that depends on a perceiver, perception, and perceived. If you can speak of it anyway it isn't the truth. Ahab/Melville was after that of which cannot be spoken. "Moby Dick" is the log of his journey.
Some are to fast and loose with their lives to understand fast fish and loose fish
It is for distractions like contemplating "the white color of Moby Dick" that Moby Dick got the better of Ahab and _The Pequod!_
Lol.
They were doomed from the start.
It was prophesied from the beginning.
Especially in chapter 9.
People miss the point. Its about the search for wisdom, remember it is Ishmael telling the story. His life circumstances have led him to embark on this voyage for the sake of pure enjoyment in worldly education. He knows in his heart that this voyage will be doomed. But it is through his detachment from Ahab's theology that he survives to tell the tale. Perhaps Melville slyly inserted a gnostic herothat successfully subverts the commands and prophecies of the Christian god while still gaining a deeper understanding of the universe and protection from hell, to show us the metaphysical path of true spirituality unbridled from Christian dialectics of good and evil
The first interpretation reminds me of Ender’s game
Ahoy Captain, there
she blows. 🐳
The guest goes a bit overboard with stretching the meaning of the whiteness of the whale. It's simple. The whiteness makes Moby Dick stand out as a special entity in it's size, and also as a malevolent force having personal grudges like Ahab purports.
You mean, this isn't sponge bob square pants?
its a white whale i say........skin ya eyes for him
GFY with the obstructive device taking over pop ups here. Also, nothing new in your talk.
this is some pretentious bs