Scott was a driving force that tipped me over the edge of becoming a motorcyclist. He took time to talk with a young stranger for over 20 minutes about bikes. He helped me set off on my journey all the way back in the late 90s. 4 bikes later I’m still riding... well again once it gets warm. It’s really cold outside right now. Lol.
As a corner worker, I used to watch Scott trail braking in the pouring rain in turn 6 at Loudon (NHMS). Smooth trail braking save lives.The best racers are often the best teachers. Sadly, most riders spend money on everything except learning how to ride that thing! I rode for 20 years before I went to Penguin School in 1990. I was shocked by how little I knew.
I remember about a year ago I was on a forum and a huge debate broke out on this very subject. The opinions were all over the map! Everybody thought they knew what trail braking was, but in reality very few actually knew what they were talking about. I know many here criticized the delivery of the subject matter, but it seems like they are in a show environment and it's hard to get your point across when there is so much cross-chatter and people not really paying attention. But the content and the points they are trying to get across are right on the money. I thought the part where they say a tire has 100 points of grip is excellent, just as Mr. Code talks about having $10.00 worth of attention and how to efficiently "spend" that $10.00 during the ride. The minute the lightbulb went on for me around these points, my riding improved significantly. And the other point about us working on ourselves is absolutely right on. None of us practice as much as we should. I still do! I may not be able to afford the fancy track riding schools, but the empty parking lot still works just fine for much of the essential stuff.
Great video! I've written a book and online course to teach trail braking to the average street rider. Your video here reinforces my theories and techniques. Best wishes!
Taking the advanced riders course opened my eyes on this subject now I do my best to brake as perfectly as I can be it a corner or a stop sign and of course throttle control its all about finesse
Observing myself on a bike, my wife in a car, and my son who just started driving a car, all of us naturally trail brake. (My son is a bit too heavy on the brakes too far into the turn tho.) I spent some time on the bike trying to release the brake before leaning into the turn. Even applying a tiny bit of throttle as I leaned in. Why did I do that?! Should have just stuck with the natural tendency to trail brake. Not sure why it's considered more advanced. Maybe at high speeds it requires a more delicate touch? Not up to those speeds yet!
The reality is people don't want get a small bike to learn how to ride so they get a 600cc and crash because their friends told him "Ohhh don't get a 125/250cc bike it's crap ,to slow etc...."
But like, how do you know how much brake percentage from 100 you are using? One day you could be strong or weak and be using 50% then the next it could be 80% or even 30%. There's no brake pressure indicator at all plus you also have brake fade as well as rubber line expansion for those not using SS lines. Different kinds of pads, the amount of heat on them, how clean the rotors are, etc. would change brake pressure.
NICK !youneed to establish where /what the 100 point position is whre does 100 live ? no point of referance . tire loading is something i have thought about for years in myhead having lost the bike going to gently keeping the bike smooth and light through a corner then I began to use my dirt skills and spanking the bike into the corner to set up the chasis and traction component that will giv eme the exit I want . you have to slap those tires get them hot and fat then use that extra heat and grip to carry corner spead with out floating off the track . Freddie Spencer shows you the best way when he puts you on theback of his VFR800 puts his knee on the ground and then reaches for the front brake then starts yelling how you can scrub pf speen and increase lean angle should you need to find more track . Of course he neeeds to do this a few times as i was shitting myself the first corner and most of the second ... then i fixated on the pure genius who is Freddie Spencer ... NIck is the best teacher out there bar none he was my teacher at WSMC new racer school and at Freddie Spencer school he is a of small staure with huge balls and a supreme athlete su-fucking-preme .
How fast you can brake to 100% and let off is dependent upon how the bike is setup, compression, spring rate, rebound, design, your body position, etc.
I grew up with Scott He is a awsome rider. But some of what are saying is wrong. They are trying to sell the public to make money. Most of what they are saying is right.
Man, I hate to be a hater here, but does Scott have a massive ego, "If we had schools like this, I could have won two or three world titles." Dude it''s all relative, if the schools were available and the info out there, then many others would have learned the same skills. Or, is he being a salesman. Guys don't take yourselves so serious, we are talking about going around in circles....dude, in the end you're an entertainer you might as well learn to juggle. p.s. nothing to take away from him as a racer, he did better than many.
ray Nic UA-cam world super bike races in the 90's with him and Carl Fogarty going at it, let alone riding that beast Suzuki in 96 MotoGp dude was one of the best there was against the World not club racer.
@@raefernandez4115 I am not saying he wasn't. It's the assupmtion that if he/we had superbike schools he would have won more championships. If all things are equall then all the riders would have had this info/technology/training available, so you/ he no longer ness. have an advantage. Personally, Fogerty, was one of favorites, in one interview he stated how he didn't have some of 'natural' talent that some of his competitors seem to have and that his success was was contributed to his comitment and lots of practice. This gives average Joes like myself hope, thanks Foggy.
Scott was a driving force that tipped me over the edge of becoming a motorcyclist. He took time to talk with a young stranger for over 20 minutes about bikes. He helped me set off on my journey all the way back in the late 90s. 4 bikes later I’m still riding... well again once it gets warm. It’s really cold outside right now. Lol.
As a corner worker, I used to watch Scott trail braking in the pouring rain in turn 6 at Loudon (NHMS). Smooth trail braking save lives.The best racers are often the best teachers. Sadly, most riders spend money on everything except learning how to ride that thing! I rode for 20 years before I went to Penguin School in 1990. I was shocked by how little I knew.
I remember about a year ago I was on a forum and a huge debate broke out on this very subject. The opinions were all over the map! Everybody thought they knew what trail braking was, but in reality very few actually knew what they were talking about.
I know many here criticized the delivery of the subject matter, but it seems like they are in a show environment and it's hard to get your point across when there is so much cross-chatter and people not really paying attention. But the content and the points they are trying to get across are right on the money. I thought the part where they say a tire has 100 points of grip is excellent, just as Mr. Code talks about having $10.00 worth of attention and how to efficiently "spend" that $10.00 during the ride. The minute the lightbulb went on for me around these points, my riding improved significantly. And the other point about us working on ourselves is absolutely right on. None of us practice as much as we should. I still do! I may not be able to afford the fancy track riding schools, but the empty parking lot still works just fine for much of the essential stuff.
I constantly make use of empty parking lots. I am the bane of security companies and their roving patrols!
Great video! I've written a book and online course to teach trail braking to the average street rider. Your video here reinforces my theories and techniques. Best wishes!
This discussion reminds me of Kieth Code's book, Twist of the Wrist. Studying this book may be the only reason I'm still alive today.
Taking the advanced riders course opened my eyes on this subject now I do my best to brake as perfectly as I can be it a corner or a stop sign and of course throttle control its all about finesse
SmokinZen iii
Scott Russell legend.
Observing myself on a bike, my wife in a car, and my son who just started driving a car, all of us naturally trail brake. (My son is a bit too heavy on the brakes too far into the turn tho.) I spent some time on the bike trying to release the brake before leaning into the turn. Even applying a tiny bit of throttle as I leaned in. Why did I do that?! Should have just stuck with the natural tendency to trail brake. Not sure why it's considered more advanced. Maybe at high speeds it requires a more delicate touch? Not up to those speeds yet!
Does this mean the yamaha nikon has 200 points of grip?
Is this the guy that announces the AMA road races?
Wait a sec, you guys don't still go out to Miller / UMC in Utah do you? I thought the only school was the ART with the USBA?
The reality is people don't want get a small bike to learn how to ride so they get a 600cc and crash because their friends told him "Ohhh don't get a 125/250cc bike it's crap ,to slow etc...."
Wish they would also talk about using the rear to steer, have look at Marc Martez.
It's unfortunate most riders know the bare minimum and get out on the road. Knowing how to trail brake is important, even for the average rider.
But like, how do you know how much brake percentage from 100 you are using? One day you could be strong or weak and be using 50% then the next it could be 80% or even 30%. There's no brake pressure indicator at all plus you also have brake fade as well as rubber line expansion for those not using SS lines. Different kinds of pads, the amount of heat on them, how clean the rotors are, etc. would change brake pressure.
You feel it.
NICK !youneed to establish where /what the 100 point position is whre does 100 live ? no point of referance . tire loading is something i have thought about for years in myhead having lost the bike going to gently keeping the bike smooth and light through a corner then I began to use my dirt skills and spanking the bike into the corner to set up the chasis and traction component that will giv eme the exit I want . you have to slap those tires get them hot and fat then use that extra heat and grip to carry corner spead with out floating off the track . Freddie Spencer shows you the best way when he puts you on theback of his VFR800 puts his knee on the ground and then reaches for the front brake then starts yelling how you can scrub pf speen and increase lean angle should you need to find more track . Of course he neeeds to do this a few times as i was shitting myself the first corner and most of the second ... then i fixated on the pure genius who is Freddie Spencer ... NIck is the best teacher out there bar none he was my teacher at WSMC new racer school and at Freddie Spencer school he is a of small staure with huge balls and a supreme athlete su-fucking-preme .
That was fucking awesome!
How fast you can brake to 100% and let off is dependent upon how the bike is setup, compression, spring rate, rebound, design, your body position, etc.
Scott Russel, hah, I had his replica Shoei X9 helmet which I just sold today, coincidence
i trail brake in tight turns, and hiking Mount Everest. good times.
S1000rr in the background
Now that's just plain painful.
"HUH!?"
yes.
Coincidence? ... or was it destiny ? ;)
it's good info but the way they are acting is annoying, Scott is a cool dude
I grew up with Scott He is a awsome rider. But some of what are saying is wrong. They are trying to sell the public to make money. Most of what they are saying is right.
zoo
More bragging please
Man, I hate to be a hater here, but does Scott have a massive ego, "If we had schools like this, I could have won two or three world titles." Dude it''s all relative, if the schools were available and the info out there, then many others would have learned the same skills. Or, is he being a salesman. Guys don't take yourselves so serious, we are talking about going around in circles....dude, in the end you're an entertainer you might as well learn to juggle.
p.s. nothing to take away from him as a racer, he did better than many.
ray Nic UA-cam world super bike races in the 90's with him and Carl Fogarty going at it, let alone riding that beast Suzuki in 96 MotoGp dude was one of the best there was against the World not club racer.
@@raefernandez4115 I am not saying he wasn't. It's the assupmtion that if he/we had superbike schools he would have won more championships. If all things are equall then all the riders would have had this info/technology/training available, so you/ he no longer ness. have an advantage. Personally, Fogerty, was one of favorites, in one interview he stated how he didn't have some of 'natural' talent that some of his competitors seem to have and that his success was was contributed to his comitment and lots of practice. This gives average Joes like myself hope, thanks Foggy.