@@ScudForEver Yeah... I beat a goth player's ass doing a fuedal archer rush. He stood no chance. Simultaneously, I got my ass handed to me as the goths by a Britain player. He basically destroyed half my base by the time I got huskarls out. It was too late.
@@MarkusHauthaler it is quite ok. In the past when Goths had no eco bonus it was terrible, but now Goths can compete quite well having the extra hunt and +1 vil. Just play a standard feudal into standard castle age boom, then adapt accordingly. For Britons it's very tricky to go Archers as longterm you get destroyed. If they go knights you have very cheap pikes to counter.
Me vs hard AI Japanese: this civ is unbeatable! Me playing Japanese: I'm still slow as sheett to reach Castle and can't build that ravaging infantry army before enemy raids and destroys my economy 😭
Consider the fact that Viper being one of the best players in the world still get housed frequently, I don't see getting housed or not makes a different 🤣
@@brownpleasure9320 I would venture to guess, though, that the stone cost is the main reason why players rarely build Outposts, since stone is the most limited resource on the map and is important for building Town Centers, castles, and towers.
Only 5 stone actually. But the thing is, you start with exactly 200 stone, and if you spend 5 stone, you lose the ability to drop a tc, or sell 100 stone at the market. Of course you can balance that, but it’s still a bit of a pain.
It’s funny how some of the highest performing civs have some of the simplest bonuses. Vikings literally just get a generic eco bonus for free, Huns get a horse and a nice discount on a specific unit. No crazy deathball composition, no ranged bonuses, no meta-breaking elite units, just some nice little freebies that snowball.
always amazed at how well Huns are doing. Like, Portuguese can literally do what Huns do but have a better tech tree. The berries more than compensate for the no houses and CA are -20% gold. Then they also have cheap knights and archers and even quite good castle age infantry (almost on par with Goths after supplies).
@@daarom3472 I personnally prefer the portuguese over the huns Not having houses almost feels like a downside to me, seeing how you end up having to wall anyway and houses fill those 2 tile gaps so perfectly
@@BlueShellshock sometimes an eco boost is all they need; which for Vikings stealing the eco boost (Vikings that stole carts etc from whom they sacked from)
Another funny thing is that Vikings are one of the best on Arabia regardless of their naval bonuses (which are solid) being useless And then you can look at Burgundians who has kind of similar bonus with it quirks but having the worst winrate in the game
@umarelimbaev02 honestly Burgundians are overrated for their eco. Its terrible for timings and only pays off when walling or extended feudal wars. But even then you are always behind in military.
6:00 Turks also have the worst post imperial crash. If the opponent survives the guns they have nothing to fall back on. Your gold is akin to your health bar. Runs out, you lose
@CrnaStrela Koreans have all fully upgraded trash units (Hussar, halb and E skirm) with just some imp blacksmith stuff missing What are you on? Terks have bonus P armor hussar and nothing else
@@svanteernestam9406idk, prolly one of the Rise of the Rajas ones Malay are top-tier on Arena and his name doesn't look Malaysian so no Which leaves Burmese (Myanmar), Vietnamese and Khmer (Cambodia)
So many people underestimate how the Huns having a lower APM requirement makes them better. Since you don't have to APM for building Houses, you can concentrate more on military micro and other stuff.
Getting a villager to build a house takes like .5 seconds if that. And they are useful for walling. Where do you get info on APM requirements for certain civs? 😂. I dont think the Huns are underestimated, given that they dominate win rates in low and high ELO, are highly popular, and have been for 25 years.
@@NowhereMan7how many houses need to be built, and how much resources plus idle time is that? Mess up and could have an idle vil - major step-back. I agree that houses are convenient for walling, but that can take up more planning and idle time. It's not about the ceiling of APM, it's about having to sacrifice looking away from a feudal fight to build a house, which can lose the player momentum. Even if you don't lose your units, the game may depend on getting a good trade with your early military investment - miss the opportunity and get out eco-boomed. Don't underestimate a fraction of a second in the most important moment of the game. Could be just 4 archers and a split second and you're losing the trade. Or you micro micro, then forget the house, then fall behind in vills - it can be a real pain. So ultimately Huns take less skill and do afford more time to micro as OP said. Just like in a real fight, or a car race, even 0.10 of a second matters. In RTS a few 0.10 sec plays add up and begin to snowball over time.
@@darkdill it’s less macro skills, but it’s also develops bad habits for beginners. It’s why it’s my opinion the more generic the civ’s start is, the better for beginners.
@@NowhereMan7 Besides just the APM, you have to take your attention away from combat when you get house'd. Getting distracted can easily result in that Mangonel pancaking your archers.
I didn't say them not needing houses isn't a civ bonus - it is. Its probably their most famous and unique characteristic. I was wanting know where the information on APM relating to certain civs comes from. Also I disagree that the huns are flying under the radar.
Can't believe you skipped talking about Slav team bonus! In a 4v4, military buildings also being a house saves hundreds of wood for each player and helps archer civs on the flank get things out a bit sooner and smoother.
The problem is that we have no archaeological registry of their architecture and it's thought they didn't even have one in the first place; they were likely a band of marauders from several ethnicities that occupied the territories they were in. Since they peaked at the time where they occupied germania and pushed the goths into the roman empires they are given the germanic architecture on account of occupying that region, more than because "they developed it culturally." They didn't even last long, anyway, so unfortunately what we have today actually does make some sense.
@@LeicaFleuryHuns definitely had their huts, of which they have none in-game Last I checked, the wooden huts in the campaign seem to represent their...architecture best Mongols also need a new architecture (Cumans also make little sense with their clearly not-Cuman Timurid architecture) Remember the Portuguese Civ mod? Would be nice for Mongols to finally live in proper Mongol Yurts and not captured Chinese ones Hubilai did not chinesify the Mongol Empire overnight, and he did so only in China proper, most other parts remained Mongolian (or gradually assimilated into the native population, Ilkhanate and all) also I'm not a fan of the Eastern European architecture, the roofs and walls look derpy
Hey Mr Spirit of the Law. I've been watching you for 7+ years now, i just realized that. O how my life has changed during these years playing AoE2. And here you are still dropping quality content for the community. Thank you sir!
Maybe could be civs that need a Persian style treatment. Also I think a cool video would be how would Aoe 1 vs AOE 2 civs would fight on each age (Or how good Chronicles 3 civs would be)
Mongols coulld use a little touch up on their architecture living in captured Chinese settlements is good n all but they had (and still have) their own yurts (House and TC, Mongols also had their own blacksmiths, which they still hold in high regard) As for civ redesigns...I dunno, Dravidians seem almost laughable at non-Nomad
Definitely Byzantines Their younger (and more barbaric) brother is gorging on siege, infantry, economy as well as water and indulging in cavalry while Byzantines have nothing Infantry? Okay ig, defo not top tier Archers are trash Cav is lackluster against Archer civs, ok against Infantry and Cavalry civs and is horrendous against Camel civs Siege is...there Defenses are kinda cool, but only Castles and mass Towers are actually great, with Persian TCs being miles ahead and Donjons and Incan/Korean/Teuton towers being gold Fire Ships are important in Feudal and early Castle on proper water maps, however they're absolutely drowned by mass War Galleys and especially escadras of Galleons Cheaper Imp is cool, too bad like 6 other civs already have a better discount and like another 5 civs reach Imp faster than Byz anyway Faster healing Monks are useful, but way worse than faster Stables/Ranges/Barracks or the Genitour Cheaper counter units is awesome - horrible thing is, there will never be a Byzantine reconquista of Italy as they have _nothing_ to put against Goths, Franks or Huns Oh yeah and everything is so expensive it makes Torsion Engines look like a bargain bin tech
I feel like Spanish is a bit skewed by the change that villagers not only start building faster after the first TC is built. Many people probably don't know or are just used to playing Spanish on that map when their start isnt really all that special anymore. Thus the winrate decrease compared to popularity.
The Hindustanis will always be at the top, because they are an anti-meta civ. And the meta, as hard as the devs are trying, hasnt truely changed. Thus, the dominance of the Hindustani.
not just anti meta, they simply have hárd counters to every single unit any civ can make while having that unit also be pretty good all round. Their only downside is gold reliance for their main comb, but even HC + Hussar works well. Enemy goes cav you have the best camels in the game. Enemy goes archers you have speedy Huscarls Enemy goes infantry you have the best HC in the game Enemy goes siege you have BBC and Hussar IMO the UU should be remodeled in order to make archers more of a counter to Hindus.
I agree but not fully. IMO Hindustanis are like the Byzantines but better. They can counter anything (not just meta) and do it better while having an eco bonus. Age of Empires is a game of rock paper scissor, and Hindustanis have accesible counters to whatever the opponent throws at you.
Great video but at the end of the day it always comes down to what you like to play the most and what you feel comfortable playing. If you ever feel burned out try something off meta you might be surprised how good some sivs really are.
If the Spanish winrate is being lowered because everyone expects conquistadors on Nomad maps, then the obvious choice is to go for Inquisition instead, because nobody will expect it.
Outposts for Ethiopians are no joke. More sight and no stone cost makes them super effective even as soon as you start making them. Even if it was a default unit +2 it would still be strong.
Go Persians.. spending wood on trashbows and food on hussars and keeping up with an enemy spamming gold heavy units is such a great feeling for the cheapskate miser in me. Even if he probably does control 75% of the gold on the map 😀
i think when you have in arabia mongols as most used civ, franks also super popular and number 2 in performance is huns, it is a no brainer that the best civ overal is the one that is the strongest counter to those all of them with good eco and super strong camells. as a mongol main myself i sweat each time I see i'm playing against hindustanis
I began playing multiplayer with Hindustanis. I still play with them a lot, but try to use more random civs with the new custom civ option. Hindustanis have a counter to almost everything at 1000-1100 elo play. They thrash meso civs with ghulams, knight civs with camels, infantry civs with decent archers/hand cannons, siege civs with ghulams+light cav, monks with light cav/hussars. Backed up by a strong economy, they feel so smooth in scaling up to the imperial age with any deathball combo you would want to go for.
Top 100 views haha. Thanks for consistently making these videos. Ive been a fan since you had like 400 subscribers and I watched pretty much everything you put out since. Keep on the good work :)
Early in (flank civs for team games) and my brain just went "hmmm... Etheopians and Britons for fast producing fast firing archers.... Sounds hella aggressive and fun"
I noticed the lack of an ad, i particularly needed to make a website, but now I have no idea which program to use, well hope you can help me find one some day.....
I didn't see Hindustani coming at number 1. It's my second civ, because it has an answer to everything, but still, not famed for the cav archers that seem to be the trend.
great video! thanks. What are the best civ for different gameplay? for example I like short games and play more feudal early castle all in. Mongols are great for it.
Hey, could you do a video on best civ for casual matches with friends? Aka where uou and your friends build up to imperial and max out armies to chuck at each other? I keep getting stomped by my friend who plays an elephant civ, since pikemen being efficient against them doesnt exactly help when its 140vs140
A few ways of countering elephants is monks (not really at that high numbers) onagers, scorpions, or camels. If you mix one of these units with full upgrades in with you pikes you should win.
Ethiopians confuse the hell out of me. They are top tier archer flank civ, but a complete afterthought as a civ on maps like Arabia. If they are such a good archer civ, why are they used as much on Arabia? My theory (and it’s just that, a theory in passing) is that they need the Briton (or even Mayan) team bonus to give them that extra boost. This has perplexed me for a while. Even when crossbows were the meta on Arabia, we still didn’t see them that much. Thoughts???
Ethiopians aren't Mayans: -they don't have a solid economy throughout the entire game (instead relying on sudden powerspikes in Feudal and Castle in 1v1s and relying on teammates late game) -they don't have an Archer discount letting them amass a ton of 'em or regain power after being blasted by a Mangonel (Ethiopians rely on their faster attacking Archers) -they don't have Eagles (instead having weird Knights and Shotels) nor do they have a Skirmisher bonus -they don't have an additional faster moving Archer (CA ig but Plumes are way better, Shotels can only raid and kill Siege, Plumes can fight directly) -Obsidian Arrows- -Camels aren't that good on Ethiopians anyway -Torsion Engines are a wunderwaffel that will bankrupt you -Outposts are great, 50% more walls is even better Ethiopian eco bonus is still weaker than the Lithuanian one
I don't think I ever made a nitpick about your video, but I can't help but say it: I don't really like how you made Mongols as the #3 Arabia Civ there. It's not that I disagree with your points, it's just that ignoring the WR and putting it at #3 is very arbitrary when everything else is purely sorted by WR numbers. Just put it as a special mention just like every other special mentions in other category.
@@zeroyuki92 the problem is that mongols are, quite frankly, without peers. Very very versatile with ways to counter just about everything your opponent can do. And if they can't, they can just attack elsewhere and force a repositioning.
@perrymeril I'm not debating any points about Mongols quality. I am just saying that for a video where the rank for every other entries is decided by numbers alone suddenly introducing qualitative justification is just weird, just make a honorable mention or special award for it.
I disagree that he sorted them by winrate alone. Otherwise he wouldnt spend so much time explaining why a civ is good. He'd just go "idk, aoe2 zone says it's top 3 so i put it here you guys decide why". Unlike other civs in the list, mongols are an exception and he made sure to point that out
I hate being a hipster, but my distaste for popular things is real. So I go Bulgarians. They might be a broken civ, but I like them. Especially for early aggression. I hate late game trash wars and Arena is on my ban list.
@NowhereMan7 ... seriously? Do you REALLY think that is productive? Do you think I might not be someone who has or had played alot of the goths, current or in the past? Could I possibly have been meming? I swear to god that I couldn't have made it more obvious that the comment was made in jest. Maybe you're the type who needs to be an asshole on a forum that when someone who is clearly new asks.a question, you reply with skill issue or don't bother us with this shit and search google.
I thought you would start the video, start the intro and then say: it's Georgians, in all maps, in all conditions and ELOs. Bam, end of the video! I am very surprised not to see them, they feel like the one broken civ to me
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Best civ: whatever my opponent is using.
Worst civ: whatever one I'm using.
Me when I play Goths vs a high ELO Britons player: it was an unfair match for me.
@@ScudForEver Yeah... I beat a goth player's ass doing a fuedal archer rush. He stood no chance. Simultaneously, I got my ass handed to me as the goths by a Britain player. He basically destroyed half my base by the time I got huskarls out. It was too late.
@@ScudForEverit honestly is a bad matchup. The feudal archers are killing xour where you don't have huskarls
@@MarkusHauthaler it is quite ok. In the past when Goths had no eco bonus it was terrible, but now Goths can compete quite well having the extra hunt and +1 vil. Just play a standard feudal into standard castle age boom, then adapt accordingly. For Britons it's very tricky to go Archers as longterm you get destroyed. If they go knights you have very cheap pikes to counter.
Me vs hard AI Japanese: this civ is unbeatable!
Me playing Japanese: I'm still slow as sheett to reach Castle and can't build that ravaging infantry army before enemy raids and destroys my economy 😭
The success of the Huns is simple: Not getting housed is the most underrated eco bonus in the game.
You also can gather right away as soon as the game starts whereas everyone else wastes time making their measley homes
@@thomas1644 not having to use so much wood is also a bonus that outweighs the early -100 wood
it depends a bit on your playstyle. I play more defensively and lacking houses is terrible for that.
@ next best thing; military/resource gathering point ones work wonders.
Consider the fact that Viper being one of the best players in the world still get housed frequently, I don't see getting housed or not makes a different 🤣
I was waiting for this video all year long (17 days)
"Huns were number one if you look at all the maps combined". Hun wars... Hun wars never change.
No one pointed out the sick line of site removing the text at 9:05? Clean work.
Greenscreening out the darkness and layering down the video so it looks like the Scout's vision covers up the text is pretty cool
he has done it in previous videos (still looks cool
Line of sight*
But yes 😊
He does it again
@@TheOhioNews line of sight*
To be honest Ethiopians team bonus is underrated. No stone outposts is great for keeping track of where your opponents are
its like 25 stone. that not much and not a good tech
@@brownpleasure9320 I would venture to guess, though, that the stone cost is the main reason why players rarely build Outposts, since stone is the most limited resource on the map and is important for building Town Centers, castles, and towers.
@@micahbush5397especially early on. You can build a lot of very cheap outposts and have complete vision of the map
@@brownpleasure93205 stone
Only 5 stone actually. But the thing is, you start with exactly 200 stone, and if you spend 5 stone, you lose the ability to drop a tc, or sell 100 stone at the market. Of course you can balance that, but it’s still a bit of a pain.
Me picking top winrate civ to immediately tank the global winrate.
Faking 50000 games so the bizantines gain more winrate
Great video spirit. Nice to see Ethiopia doing well - they are my fave!
It’s funny how some of the highest performing civs have some of the simplest bonuses. Vikings literally just get a generic eco bonus for free, Huns get a horse and a nice discount on a specific unit. No crazy deathball composition, no ranged bonuses, no meta-breaking elite units, just some nice little freebies that snowball.
always amazed at how well Huns are doing. Like, Portuguese can literally do what Huns do but have a better tech tree. The berries more than compensate for the no houses and CA are -20% gold. Then they also have cheap knights and archers and even quite good castle age infantry (almost on par with Goths after supplies).
@@daarom3472 I personnally prefer the portuguese over the huns
Not having houses almost feels like a downside to me, seeing how you end up having to wall anyway and houses fill those 2 tile gaps so perfectly
@@BlueShellshock sometimes an eco boost is all they need; which for Vikings stealing the eco boost (Vikings that stole carts etc from whom they sacked from)
Another funny thing is that Vikings are one of the best on Arabia regardless of their naval bonuses (which are solid) being useless
And then you can look at Burgundians who has kind of similar bonus with it quirks but having the worst winrate in the game
@umarelimbaev02 honestly Burgundians are overrated for their eco. Its terrible for timings and only pays off when walling or extended feudal wars. But even then you are always behind in military.
My favorite civ is Sugondese.
Who?
@@InterloperBob Sugondesenuts
@@InterloperBobI can't tell if you're joking 😢
Peak comment
😂😂😂
6:00 Turks also have the worst post imperial crash.
If the opponent survives the guns they have nothing to fall back on.
Your gold is akin to your health bar. Runs out, you lose
@martytu20 Has nothing to do with my comment 😒
@@tankofnova9022 wrong comment, my bad
Yeah, they also struggle against strong cav civs since they can't spam halb and their camels are just average
They have Hussars with +2 pierce armor, I think they can handle it better than stuffs like Koreans on post imp crash
@CrnaStrela Koreans have all fully upgraded trash units (Hussar, halb and E skirm) with just some imp blacksmith stuff missing
What are you on? Terks have bonus P armor hussar and nothing else
That feel when your irl civ is mid af, but you still have to main them.
Which civ
@@svanteernestam9406idk, prolly one of the Rise of the Rajas ones
Malay are top-tier on Arena and his name doesn't look Malaysian so no
Which leaves Burmese (Myanmar), Vietnamese and Khmer (Cambodia)
@@svanteernestam9406Probably Vietnamese as his profile says his name is Thanh Hai Tran.
@@The-jy3yqHera said Vietnamese and Khmer are top civs not only for him but especially for mid elo. It depends on opinion of course.
Greetings from Germany. Teuton scout rush 4 life 😂
So many people underestimate how the Huns having a lower APM requirement makes them better. Since you don't have to APM for building Houses, you can concentrate more on military micro and other stuff.
Getting a villager to build a house takes like .5 seconds if that. And they are useful for walling. Where do you get info on APM requirements for certain civs? 😂.
I dont think the Huns are underestimated, given that they dominate win rates in low and high ELO, are highly popular, and have been for 25 years.
@@NowhereMan7how many houses need to be built, and how much resources plus idle time is that? Mess up and could have an idle vil - major step-back.
I agree that houses are convenient for walling, but that can take up more planning and idle time.
It's not about the ceiling of APM, it's about having to sacrifice looking away from a feudal fight to build a house, which can lose the player momentum. Even if you don't lose your units, the game may depend on getting a good trade with your early military investment - miss the opportunity and get out eco-boomed.
Don't underestimate a fraction of a second in the most important moment of the game. Could be just 4 archers and a split second and you're losing the trade. Or you micro micro, then forget the house, then fall behind in vills - it can be a real pain.
So ultimately Huns take less skill and do afford more time to micro as OP said. Just like in a real fight, or a car race, even 0.10 of a second matters. In RTS a few 0.10 sec plays add up and begin to snowball over time.
@@darkdill it’s less macro skills, but it’s also develops bad habits for beginners. It’s why it’s my opinion the more generic the civ’s start is, the better for beginners.
@@NowhereMan7 Besides just the APM, you have to take your attention away from combat when you get house'd. Getting distracted can easily result in that Mangonel pancaking your archers.
I didn't say them not needing houses isn't a civ bonus - it is. Its probably their most famous and unique characteristic.
I was wanting know where the information on APM relating to certain civs comes from.
Also I disagree that the huns are flying under the radar.
Huns being flexible means they also adapt to any meta. Flexibility that transcends beyond matches. :o
Can't believe you skipped talking about Slav team bonus! In a 4v4, military buildings also being a house saves hundreds of wood for each player and helps archer civs on the flank get things out a bit sooner and smoother.
With huns ranking so high it would be nice if they would finally receive a fitting architecture set.
The problem is that we have no archaeological registry of their architecture and it's thought they didn't even have one in the first place; they were likely a band of marauders from several ethnicities that occupied the territories they were in.
Since they peaked at the time where they occupied germania and pushed the goths into the roman empires they are given the germanic architecture on account of occupying that region, more than because "they developed it culturally." They didn't even last long, anyway, so unfortunately what we have today actually does make some sense.
@@LeicaFleuryHuns definitely had their huts, of which they have none in-game
Last I checked, the wooden huts in the campaign seem to represent their...architecture best
Mongols also need a new architecture (Cumans also make little sense with their clearly not-Cuman Timurid architecture)
Remember the Portuguese Civ mod? Would be nice for Mongols to finally live in proper Mongol Yurts and not captured Chinese ones
Hubilai did not chinesify the Mongol Empire overnight, and he did so only in China proper, most other parts remained Mongolian (or gradually assimilated into the native population, Ilkhanate and all)
also I'm not a fan of the Eastern European architecture, the roofs and walls look derpy
I mean, their Wonder is the ruins of another civ's monument, filled with loot from the surrounding lands.
@@LeicaFleury they were nomads. give them a nomadic architecture set at least lmao.
Hey Mr Spirit of the Law.
I've been watching you for 7+ years now, i just realized that. O how my life has changed during these years playing AoE2.
And here you are still dropping quality content for the community.
Thank you sir!
Hi Spirit, new episode idea: civs that might need some redesign
Maybe could be civs that need a Persian style treatment. Also I think a cool video would be how would Aoe 1 vs AOE 2 civs would fight on each age (Or how good Chronicles 3 civs would be)
Bulgarians for sure imo
Mongols coulld use a little touch up on their architecture
living in captured Chinese settlements is good n all but they had (and still have) their own yurts (House and TC, Mongols also had their own blacksmiths, which they still hold in high regard)
As for civ redesigns...I dunno, Dravidians seem almost laughable at non-Nomad
Definitely Byzantines
Their younger (and more barbaric) brother is gorging on siege, infantry, economy as well as water and indulging in cavalry while Byzantines have nothing
Infantry? Okay ig, defo not top tier
Archers are trash
Cav is lackluster against Archer civs, ok against Infantry and Cavalry civs and is horrendous against Camel civs
Siege is...there
Defenses are kinda cool, but only Castles and mass Towers are actually great, with Persian TCs being miles ahead and Donjons and Incan/Korean/Teuton towers being gold
Fire Ships are important in Feudal and early Castle on proper water maps, however they're absolutely drowned by mass War Galleys and especially escadras of Galleons
Cheaper Imp is cool, too bad like 6 other civs already have a better discount and like another 5 civs reach Imp faster than Byz anyway
Faster healing Monks are useful, but way worse than faster Stables/Ranges/Barracks or the Genitour
Cheaper counter units is awesome - horrible thing is, there will never be a Byzantine reconquista of Italy as they have _nothing_ to put against Goths, Franks or Huns
Oh yeah and everything is so expensive it makes Torsion Engines look like a bargain bin tech
I would add Poles as being boring and historically innacurate esp. with mass trash winged hussars.
I feel like Spanish is a bit skewed by the change that villagers not only start building faster after the first TC is built. Many people probably don't know or are just used to playing Spanish on that map when their start isnt really all that special anymore. Thus the winrate decrease compared to popularity.
Still, they're pretty high on the list on account of being overall a well rounded civ for any kind of map.
I remember at release Sicilians were insane on Nomad until the bonus was patched out 😂
They are also very popular and any time it's a battle of two Spanish the winrate gets closer to 50%
9:04 daaaang the editing bro❤️🔥❤️🔥
It is wild that Romans are top 5 in Arena. They pretty much die to gunpowder most Arena top civs have good gunpowder
Well that likely means they are beating everyone else.
Cheap scorpions eat hand cannons, and good cav can snipe the bombards.
I love these videos! Thanks spirit
My favourite civ is the AZTECS, beautiful bot culturally and aesthetically
The Hindustanis will always be at the top, because they are an anti-meta civ.
And the meta, as hard as the devs are trying, hasnt truely changed.
Thus, the dominance of the Hindustani.
not just anti meta, they simply have hárd counters to every single unit any civ can make while having that unit also be pretty good all round. Their only downside is gold reliance for their main comb, but even HC + Hussar works well.
Enemy goes cav you have the best camels in the game.
Enemy goes archers you have speedy Huscarls
Enemy goes infantry you have the best HC in the game
Enemy goes siege you have BBC and Hussar
IMO the UU should be remodeled in order to make archers more of a counter to Hindus.
I agree but not fully. IMO Hindustanis are like the Byzantines but better. They can counter anything (not just meta) and do it better while having an eco bonus.
Age of Empires is a game of rock paper scissor, and Hindustanis have accesible counters to whatever the opponent throws at you.
@@DaddyMouse Thing is, they are way worse on hybrid and water maps than byzantines. So they just occupy the land Byzantines slot in the game.
Thanks for getting me back into this game
Great video but at the end of the day it always comes down to what you like to play the most and what you feel comfortable playing. If you ever feel burned out try something off meta you might be surprised how good some sivs really are.
If the Spanish winrate is being lowered because everyone expects conquistadors on Nomad maps, then the obvious choice is to go for Inquisition instead, because nobody will expect it.
Outposts for Ethiopians are no joke. More sight and no stone cost makes them super effective even as soon as you start making them. Even if it was a default unit +2 it would still be strong.
"which civs are crushing it" followed by top flank archer civ at 53.2% gave me a chuckle, as always.
Perhaps the best civ were the ones we mained along the way.
I am digging the new theme music 🎶
Chinese needs a rework with Jurchens, Han and Tibet etc
Go Persians.. spending wood on trashbows and food on hussars and keeping up with an enemy spamming gold heavy units is such a great feeling for the cheapskate miser in me. Even if he probably does control 75% of the gold on the map 😀
i think when you have in arabia mongols as most used civ, franks also super popular and number 2 in performance is huns, it is a no brainer that the best civ overal is the one that is the strongest counter to those all of them with good eco and super strong camells. as a mongol main myself i sweat each time I see i'm playing against hindustanis
I began playing multiplayer with Hindustanis. I still play with them a lot, but try to use more random civs with the new custom civ option.
Hindustanis have a counter to almost everything at 1000-1100 elo play. They thrash meso civs with ghulams, knight civs with camels, infantry civs with decent archers/hand cannons, siege civs with ghulams+light cav, monks with light cav/hussars. Backed up by a strong economy, they feel so smooth in scaling up to the imperial age with any deathball combo you would want to go for.
New to AoE2, watches video, ok so I should main Huns, thanks.
No need for houses is quite an unbeatable civ bonus, huge eco advantage and makes the game way more comfortable
kinda wild at the state of balance in the team and arabia meta today that win rates are so tightly bound.
SPIRIT OF THE LAW!!!
please you haven't done a civ overview on Ethiopian in 7 years... please do one🙏
Top 100 views haha. Thanks for consistently making these videos. Ive been a fan since you had like 400 subscribers and I watched pretty much everything you put out since. Keep on the good work :)
Early in (flank civs for team games) and my brain just went "hmmm... Etheopians and Britons for fast producing fast firing archers.... Sounds hella aggressive and fun"
Bulgarians are underrated then. Phew, almost thought they were bad or smth
Only big brain players know how great they are. Shhh, don't check my elo.
Ok but how about the best civs for going up against Fatslob's Vikings on Black Forest?
What if the horse was nerfed from "first TC" to "first dock"
I noticed the lack of an ad, i particularly needed to make a website, but now I have no idea which program to use, well hope you can help me find one some day.....
Hey great video! Helped me a lot can you tell me what is the music on the end of the video?
VIKING GANG❤
💛 All the best. -AOE_RUSH_ToOnY
woohoo another SOTL video! been harder to get games lately so these help quench my aoe2 thirst. thanks
I think poles are still top arena civ
Oooohh that's a good one
Can you post the music track at the end?
I didn't see Hindustani coming at number 1. It's my second civ, because it has an answer to everything, but still, not famed for the cav archers that seem to be the trend.
This further proves that low elo players hate housing.
They just wanna play without ever hear the sound of pop cap.
Huns are my favourite since Aoe2x2
Can you do a through the ages on just cavalry archers? I recall them not being very good originally and I know they received a lot of changes
Hmm what are the best civs on closed maps, like black forest and amazon tunnel?
Celts
great video! thanks. What are the best civ for different gameplay? for example I like short games and play more feudal early castle all in.
Mongols are great for it.
Hi Spirit of the Law, guys here.
Throughout years, American civilizations have lost their high status.
So natural follow-up... are any civs clearly underperforming versus others on particular maps or elo ranges?
... okay fine, we can do AoE2 for another year 😀
huns dodging the worldwide housing crisis
Please do an update of best archer & CA civs ❤.
Hey, could you do a video on best civ for casual matches with friends? Aka where uou and your friends build up to imperial and max out armies to chuck at each other? I keep getting stomped by my friend who plays an elephant civ, since pikemen being efficient against them doesnt exactly help when its 140vs140
A few ways of countering elephants is monks (not really at that high numbers) onagers, scorpions, or camels. If you mix one of these units with full upgrades in with you pikes you should win.
Kamayuks shred elephants in those fights, it's not even close
I will keep playing Byzantines!
You obviously forgot toentiom, that teutons are the best in basically every category by far. They still should get buffed though
Great video ❤
never clicked a video so fast
Hey spirit, could we see a similar video for empire wars?
Ethiopians confuse the hell out of me. They are top tier archer flank civ, but a complete afterthought as a civ on maps like Arabia. If they are such a good archer civ, why are they used as much on Arabia?
My theory (and it’s just that, a theory in passing) is that they need the Briton (or even Mayan) team bonus to give them that extra boost.
This has perplexed me for a while. Even when crossbows were the meta on Arabia, we still didn’t see them that much.
Thoughts???
Ethiopians aren't Mayans:
-they don't have a solid economy throughout the entire game (instead relying on sudden powerspikes in Feudal and Castle in 1v1s and relying on teammates late game)
-they don't have an Archer discount letting them amass a ton of 'em or regain power after being blasted by a Mangonel (Ethiopians rely on their faster attacking Archers)
-they don't have Eagles (instead having weird Knights and Shotels) nor do they have a Skirmisher bonus
-they don't have an additional faster moving Archer (CA ig but Plumes are way better, Shotels can only raid and kill Siege, Plumes can fight directly)
-Obsidian Arrows-
-Camels aren't that good on Ethiopians anyway
-Torsion Engines are a wunderwaffel that will bankrupt you
-Outposts are great, 50% more walls is even better
Ethiopian eco bonus is still weaker than the Lithuanian one
SOTL : Man, I wish we had new DLC for new civ breakdowns!!!
I really thought georgians will dominate the arabia list. Guess the domination is over.
Music change at Hindustanis 🤘 🎧 🤘
It would be appreciated for noobs like me if you made a video on AoE 2 terminology
Yeah, I always assumed "Fast Castle" was just that - a rush to build a Castle.
Turns out it is "Fast Castle (Age)"
Spirit of the Door here!
What civ is #1 on arena but #43 on arabia?
Turks
More history videos!
No love for the black forest/ amazon tunnel noob crowd?
My favourite civ are the Turockans.
I tend to play with a forced treaty for an hour.
Baby wake up. New SotL video just dropped.
Guess I should become a team games flank player
Gotta thank you for getting me to play the Japanese way back in 2015, still my fav civ to this day
If you ever change the music for the number 1 spot I will be very upset
But what are the best farmer civs?
Slavs, Khmer, Teutons, Franks...
I'll tell you what's actually going on with mongol picking on low to mid elo, my friend: LAMERS!
I'm surprised Goth and Teuton are not there. I remember a time when teutons was just "you loose" ahaha, very long time ago.
Guess they're 7/10 picks
Teutons were Like a top civ ?
I mean they are decent , but top ?
When was that time ?
@@geheimeWeltregierung TC bullshit play
@@angquangnguyenthac2833 ahh i See , ive heard of that
I don't think I ever made a nitpick about your video, but I can't help but say it: I don't really like how you made Mongols as the #3 Arabia Civ there. It's not that I disagree with your points, it's just that ignoring the WR and putting it at #3 is very arbitrary when everything else is purely sorted by WR numbers. Just put it as a special mention just like every other special mentions in other category.
@@zeroyuki92 the problem is that mongols are, quite frankly, without peers. Very very versatile with ways to counter just about everything your opponent can do. And if they can't, they can just attack elsewhere and force a repositioning.
@perrymeril I'm not debating any points about Mongols quality. I am just saying that for a video where the rank for every other entries is decided by numbers alone suddenly introducing qualitative justification is just weird, just make a honorable mention or special award for it.
I disagree that he sorted them by winrate alone. Otherwise he wouldnt spend so much time explaining why a civ is good. He'd just go "idk, aoe2 zone says it's top 3 so i put it here you guys decide why".
Unlike other civs in the list, mongols are an exception and he made sure to point that out
I hate being a hipster, but my distaste for popular things is real. So I go Bulgarians. They might be a broken civ, but I like them. Especially for early aggression. I hate late game trash wars and Arena is on my ban list.
Whatever happened to the goths?!?!?! >(
Watch the video Goths through the ages if you want to know everything that ever happened to them.
@NowhereMan7 ... seriously? Do you REALLY think that is productive? Do you think I might not be someone who has or had played alot of the goths, current or in the past? Could I possibly have been meming? I swear to god that I couldn't have made it more obvious that the comment was made in jest. Maybe you're the type who needs to be an asshole on a forum that when someone who is clearly new asks.a question, you reply with skill issue or don't bother us with this shit and search google.
I wonder how much Spanish are popular on nomad because people still think they build the first TC faster.
Obviously the meta is sub 800 elo Chinese mains, our win rates might be low but any year now we'll get that opening down.
Chinese civ overview or maybe teutons plz.
I thought you would start the video, start the intro and then say: it's Georgians, in all maps, in all conditions and ELOs. Bam, end of the video! I am very surprised not to see them, they feel like the one broken civ to me
They were nerfed multiple times. At release they were really broken
R.I.P. Byzantium
Make Britons great again! Justice for archer meta!
Well, what can you say ... Huns are Huns.
I think this is the only video where he never mentions the Japanese.
You didn't listen carefully enough
Civ definitely matters at mid elo. Pedants be trippin