For everyone wondering what is better it will depend on what you want. With crownless your camellya will do more damage, but with dreamless your team overall damage will be higher because you can use dreamless at the beginning of your teams rotation and at the end.
I consider Dreamless to be the best investment in the account as a whole. Even from the video, you can see that the timing is almost the same in the end. There was more damage with Crownless, but this damage is not so significant to farm Crownless for the sake of it. For the average player, Dreamless will be better. Even with the animation canceled, the result will not be impressive. If you are a fan of numbers, then please farm your Crownless
so based entirely on this video, the difference doesn't really matter and it's up to the person/luck (substats) on what they want to use? crownless cancel seems fun to pull off and dreamless at the end of rotation seems easier (you also probably already have a nutty dreamless echo). In my opinion the damage difference is not so big that you can just pick whatever is fun for ya or whatever you already have. .
Crownless is better, but bugged on her. If you are in the Blossom mode after intro or budding mode, you can't use the Echo. You need to "touch ground" first. This doesn't happen with Dreamless.
another baited soul by 50 IQ community spamming how much better crownless is meanhwile they completly forgot that you can literally animation cancel entire dreamless nuke at the end of rotation meanwhile crownless gives only a bit of Havoc damage but also increases rotation time and difficulty. So do I want extra 50k damage extra difficulty and +1 second in my rotation or 40k big aoe damage from dreamless and braindead easy fast rotation ? I think answer is clear... TLDR Add dreamless own damage in your "calculations" whats better you muppets sigh
@@kilagraa crownless is only worth it if you have heavly duped camellya but feel free to use it, its literally same as debating over Shorekeeper echoes last patch. Instead of nuking with her intro for 60k clowns build million ER because they are too dumb to calculate ER from her passive / echo and end up doing 15k crit max with her losing so much damage over entire boss fight
@Hierron Bro stop talking like an anime character with "sight" you are embarrassing your entire bloodlines with this one + Even crownless animation can be cancelled instantly to get the full buff and it make cammilya do more damage on the rotation rather than some mediocre nuke when you are not using dreamless with havoc rover
You can cancel the animation, but you won't get the buff, because you need to hit basic attacks with crownless. You can cancel the dreamless animation too
@@tsl.123 It can be cancelled, but you will not gain ravoc bonuses,But it's up to you, if you want a slightly longer rotation and the damage from Dreamless, then you use it. Now, if you want a faster rotation and enjoy more time from its bonuses, then you can use it. Crownless
crownless took long for hitting, wasting time. using cancel animation is losing damage contribution from the echo (you all said we just can cancel it but forgot the damage calaculation of it in her rotation). meanwhile dreamless easy in rotation, contribute good damage.
@Woa_Hamstar The damage support that crownless gives to camellys has much more value than the echo that does a little more damage, and on top of that, by removing it and canceling it, you already have the buff. there is no point of comparison xd
@Woa_Hamstar but why do you speak from ignorance? precisely canceling it means that you can spend more time with camellya in the shore ulti, and therefore, do more damage. Before trying to teach others, learn to play
@@rubo0686 i have try bruh 🤣 still dreamless gives best rotation and faster clearing stage. Canceling still wasting time even Camellya deal lil bit more dmg. The gap dmg not that big tho
😴 P2W/lottery mode. No wonder all casual players left this game. It's not "challenging" when enemies have billions of HP. This is no different from other badly designed dps races.
For everyone wondering what is better it will depend on what you want.
With crownless your camellya will do more damage, but with dreamless your team overall damage will be higher because you can use dreamless at the beginning of your teams rotation and at the end.
I consider Dreamless to be the best investment in the account as a whole. Even from the video, you can see that the timing is almost the same in the end. There was more damage with Crownless, but this damage is not so significant to farm Crownless for the sake of it. For the average player, Dreamless will be better. Even with the animation canceled, the result will not be impressive. If you are a fan of numbers, then please farm your Crownless
I just use dreamless cus the skin just matches with the drip fr
so based entirely on this video, the difference doesn't really matter and it's up to the person/luck (substats) on what they want to use?
crownless cancel seems fun to pull off and dreamless at the end of rotation seems easier (you also probably already have a nutty dreamless echo). In my opinion the damage difference is not so big that you can just pick whatever is fun for ya or whatever you already have.
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You can cancel crownless and still get the buff.
How?
@PhongNguyen-gy2rg The text reads "after transformation", so you can cancel with something like dash or liberation and still get the buff.
@@kathyjohnson137 Yess you guys can cancel it if you guys want to play speedrun.
@@kathyjohnson137uk what’s funny, a lot of CC make it seem as if you get the buff on the last hit.
@@PhongNguyen-gy2rg just do a dodge right after using crownless to flip out of it midair
Crownless is better, but bugged on her.
If you are in the Blossom mode after intro or budding mode, you can't use the Echo.
You need to "touch ground" first. This doesn't happen with Dreamless.
I just need that Crownless buffs and you can cancel the transform animations too, get the buff and go wild.
U NEED TO PLAY GENCHIN INPACT WHY ARE YALL PLAYING THIS TRASH GAME?!!!!!
@@Zz366w Nice ragebait.
@@Zz366w there's no crownless there but you😂😂😂
@@Zz366w I play both from day 1, and wuwa is so much better than genshin its laughable XD
@@hunterlavish u are lying!! Yall paid kurobots! Genchin inpact saved my life how can wuwa be better?!! Pls stop playin it and return to genchin!
Dreamless feels like a waste on her especially when you don't put rover on the team
another baited soul by 50 IQ community spamming how much better crownless is meanhwile they completly forgot that you can literally animation cancel entire dreamless nuke at the end of rotation meanwhile crownless gives only a bit of Havoc damage but also increases rotation time and difficulty.
So do I want extra 50k damage extra difficulty and +1 second in my rotation or 40k big aoe damage from dreamless and braindead easy fast rotation ? I think answer is clear...
TLDR Add dreamless own damage in your "calculations" whats better you muppets sigh
@@HierronI want more damage
@@kilagraa crownless is only worth it if you have heavly duped camellya but feel free to use it, its literally same as debating over Shorekeeper echoes last patch. Instead of nuking with her intro for 60k clowns build million ER because they are too dumb to calculate ER from her passive / echo and end up doing 15k crit max with her losing so much damage over entire boss fight
@@HierronHow did you get that 60k intro? Spectre dmg or HP on the echos?
@Hierron
Bro stop talking like an anime character with "sight" you are embarrassing your entire bloodlines with this one
+ Even crownless animation can be cancelled instantly to get the full buff and it make cammilya do more damage on the rotation rather than some mediocre nuke when you are not using dreamless with havoc rover
In my opinion, I think Crownless is better, because you have a faster rotation with Camellia, because you can cancel the echo.
Dreamless animation can be cancelled as well tho
You can cancel the animation, but you won't get the buff, because you need to hit basic attacks with crownless.
You can cancel the dreamless animation too
@@tsl.123 It can be cancelled, but you will not gain ravoc bonuses,But it's up to you, if you want a slightly longer rotation and the damage from Dreamless, then you use it. Now, if you want a faster rotation and enjoy more time from its bonuses, then you can use it. Crownless
it only says transform to crownless for the buff, don't need to hit the whole thing on the echo info
@justapotato9276 >>>>>"tranform to crownless to performe consectives atks..."
claim camellya r0s1!
Crownoess is better overall, why you compare it with the other?
crownless took long for hitting, wasting time. using cancel animation is losing damage contribution from the echo (you all said we just can cancel it but forgot the damage calaculation of it in her rotation).
meanwhile dreamless easy in rotation, contribute good damage.
@Woa_Hamstar The damage support that crownless gives to camellys has much more value than the echo that does a little more damage, and on top of that, by removing it and canceling it, you already have the buff. there is no point of comparison xd
@@rubo0686 still wasting time for canceling animation. Time rotation is most important than getting buff that make the rotation longer 🤣
@Woa_Hamstar but why do you speak from ignorance? precisely canceling it means that you can spend more time with camellya in the shore ulti, and therefore, do more damage. Before trying to teach others, learn to play
@@rubo0686 i have try bruh 🤣 still dreamless gives best rotation and faster clearing stage. Canceling still wasting time even Camellya deal lil bit more dmg. The gap dmg not that big tho
😴 P2W/lottery mode. No wonder all casual players left this game. It's not "challenging" when enemies have billions of HP. This is no different from other badly designed dps races.
The fuck you yapping about