The way Lucy NEVER hears Kate out, she doesn’t let her explain anything, she doesn’t let her talk to her, she completely shuts her out. She can’t fully heal and move on if she doesn’t LISTEN to her. I feel like hearing her out and understanding her POV could really help her have some peace and comfort.
That is a unhealthy relationship right there with lucy always playing the victim card and blaming kate for everything. I don't know how kate handles been emotionally tortured every single week.
I think she stopped her and has stopped her in the past is because she know how she feels/felt for kate and if she let's her say something like she loves/loved her too it would be confusing or sum like that for Lucy nit saying it's right but yeah
I felt bad for Kate every ep. The way Lucy always stops her coz she know when Kate will say something and she’s afraid to let Kate in her life again. And I hate the fact that she’s trying to date someone so that she can move on from Kate.
I’m in tears! Lucy finally admitted the feelings then wouldn’t let Kate say anything. I get she’s trying to protect herself from getting hurt again but I wanted to hear what Kate had to say.
I think Lucy knows what Kate has to say, she don't want to listen to because after that promotion been turn down with a goal oriented person just want to be with her surely Kate will say she love Lucy too. But sad to say that all tht beautiful thing happened to them was broken because eof the secret Kate had and that was Cara.
@@erialccrasher970 your soo right lucy knew by this scene kate was inlove with her too. I think thats what made it easy for her to say it because i suppose she knew by then that kate loved her and she still broke her heart. I dunno
Poor Whistler is getting her hopes up and then being crushed all over again. If I was her I‘d consider walking away. (Well, obviously don’t want her too but come on….)
Same smile she had after Lucy said she almost died and it taught her who she can trust. Whistler smiled thinking she meant her but then Lucy said she is longer a bet she can take. 🙁
@@pinkdahlia6363 EXACTLY ! I thought i was the only one to notice . My poor Whistler thinking she will get lucy happy. And then puppy eyes so sad to see her like that
I know a lot of people are somewhat upset by how this is going, but I honestly kind of like it. It's frustrating, yes, but I think it shows how imperfect both of them are. It's messy and often seems like a "one step forward, two steps back" sort of thing, but I think that's the whole point. It's not as clear cut as, "Whistler's a cheater, she sucks, the relationship is over", or, "Lucy's being mean and immature and Whistler deserves better". Both characters are sympathetic, and both have also behaved immaturely. For Lucy, I think her problem is that she's struggling to listen. On the one hand, in theory, Lucy has no OBLIGATION to hear Whistler out. Whistler hurt her, and she's totally within her right to decide that they're done and that she wants nothing more than a professional relationship. But on the other hand, in practice, she's NOT maintaining a professional relationship. She scolds Whistler in an unprofessional way when she gets hurt, she often reverts back into their playful banter, and she also frequently gets upset with Whistler and brings up her past mistake. This is understandable, of course, since she's clearly still hurting and in love with Whistler, but it also is in no way professional. And if she's not going to keep their relationship professional and continues to bring up the past, then she DOES need to let Whistler speak. You really can't have both-- either keep it professional, or let Whistler actually try to communicate back when you repeatedly lay all of your hurt onto her. She can't just be an emotional punching bag to help Lucy vent about her (justified) hurt. For Whistler, I think she's struggling to actually grasp what really hurts Lucy. Whistler clearly isn't malicious in any of her actions, but rather she just seems to be a bit clueless at effectively communicating. Lucy's anger at Whistler rejecting the promotion seems a bit irrational (and it probably is), but also Whistler clearly didn't understand why it would hurt Lucy. The whole keeping important things from Lucy and then having her find out through a third party is clearly very triggering, and then the reminder of Cara probably didn't help. But Whistler seems to have trouble understanding that for Lucy, a relationship is founded on openness. I'd imagine that as a former intelligence officer and also just a rather closed off seeming person in general, Whistler is used to compartmentalizing everything, including relationships. And while it's clearly she's working on being better at being open and improving her communication, she unsurprisingly is still learning. I think it's pretty easy for people to sort of side with Whistler here, and that's (imo) because she's just looks so sad all the time! With Lucy, we get to see her in plenty of interactions unrelated to Whistler, and we also see her having friendships with the rest of the team and trying to move on romantically as well. On the other hand, we more often see Whistler just looking sad and getting yelled at by Lucy, without any of the cool confidence that she had in earlier episodes. So it's definitely easy to sympathize with her. But I do like how long this is taking to resolve. I know that it feels frustrating, but shows so often just brush over cheating storylines and leave you feeling like things weren't properly resolved (oftentimes I end up never forgiving the character who cheated). This one not only actually gives an appropriate amount of time to how you'd actually deal with something like this, but also actually is showing the problems in the relationship that led up to the break up (Lucy's stubbornness, unwillingness to listen, Whistler's poor communication, lack of openness). Ik this was very long but honestly it's just because I'm really enjoying this slow development and it kinda makes me sad that people seem to be writing it off so much! But I do agree that it's frustrating.
Well said. Thanks for the analysis. I guess I find it hard to watch when it has gone on so long with what the writers choose to show us. Which unfortunately looks very similar each episode. Either the elevator doors shut or Whistler gets the sharp end of Lucy’s stick.
The way Kate has been trying to respect Lucy's wishes and been holding back all of her emotions to put what Lucy wants first is making me love her even more. Woman is loving Lucy the best way she knows how, even if Lucy can't see it. I still have my fingers crossed for these two fifteen the road.
I love how they went from ignoring each other to goin back to flirting with each other I’m ready for next week episode with them talking and being back together for once and for all
Lucy is obviously scared even after dropping the L word. A healthy relationship/ conversation would allow for Kate to reply. Especially because Lucy asked her about DC. I think Whistler would have responded in a positive manner. Lucy being her own blocker. 😂😭❤️😜
I agree!! 😡. I’m disappointed in the series, you think they’re finally getting closer again….,then stubborn Lucey gets them back to square 1… or square 0, zilch, nada, kaput!! Damn it. Move on Whistler… you deserve better..
@@sampiboon3532 that depends on Kate(and the writers)..PLEASE….hear Whistler out!!!! Please, I think they will, the series won’t survive if this cast doesn’t stay together!!
I think people fail to see how Lucy is acting in order to protect herself. I think she’s been hurt in the past based on her black and white thinking, maybe something happened with family dynamics. No one acts like this out of the blue, I don’t think Whistler brought this on. She’s upset finding out about Kate staying in Hawaii because that confirms that she truly was in it, that she wasn’t just a fling for her or that Lucy was the other woman. I think this proves it to her that Kate, in her own way, is showing she loves her. And I can see that Lucy is upset with herself for being mad. I’ve been mad at myself for being so upset at a situation and grasp at something to be mad about, and this is another thing for Lucy. She’s trying to find a reason to stay mad, to justify it. It’s sad because it shows how deep her hurt goes. If Kate explains herself, which I’m sure Lucy knows deep down what she’ll say, there’s no more running, no more reasons to stay mad. Yes she’s acting childish and it’s frustrating to see but I can tell that it comes from a place of deep hurt that is prior to Kate, and I want to see what that is. We don’t know much of either of the two and they both carry something. Kate is terrible at communicating and charges head first into things without thinking, Lucy seems to think too much about things. They balance eachother out in this regard. Both have their flaws and it’s difficult to choose a side, I see both sides having their own part in this.
I mean, of course they're keeping the angst going, they have 2 more episodes? They'd have no overarching plot if they just resolved it here. And Lucy's reaction is understandable--it's not healthy, but it's human. She still needs time to figure things out, and we know already that she sees things in black and white. It's hard to grow out of that mind-set. And thanks again for the fast upload!!
This is Lucy literally running away from her feelings and she is overwhelmed by everything “Whistler”. Given the circumstances, Kate deserves so much better. Not fair. Just hear Kate out for once, Lucy! This time it’s you breaking her heart. The writers better reunite these two by the season finale.
@@martinmorles1 Yes! Lucy needs to grow up a bit. I understand she had to say what she did but why do this to Kate today leaving her more of a wreck than she already is.
@@Poln4 maybe she just super sad and disappointed bcs she already dating someone then she knew whistler turned down the promotion to stay close to her.
@@umminasaruddin4468 yeah, but i hope she realizes that she has been the one closing the door in Kate’s face. Since the day the Cara situation happened at least. I don’t blame her completely. She is hurt and it’s a defense mechanism. But in fact, both of them are suffering. They evidently have chemistry. They shut themselves out avoiding to get trap in the good feeling ~~ I just hope they can be happy. Yes, they are fictional characters, but I live through 2d and 3d characters’ love~~
OMG..this kills me, you know Lucy's feeling for Kate and then she drop the Loved word there but she doesn't want to give Kate a chance to say it back. Because she know she'll give in. And getting back to dating someone knowing you haven't get over yet and still in love with somebody is wrong. It's like Kate's mistake not breaking up with Cara even she's already dating and having feelings for Lucy. But anyway they're not over yet, they'll realize and stop running from their own feelings❤️.
Lucy stopping Kate from replying because she's afraid kate did/does reciprocate and that would make what they lost hurt so much more. She won't let Kate say it because she knows she'll be a goner, and it's so much easier to hate someone who broke your heart than have to confront that you're still in love with them.
Guys guys...Lucy just masking her "distorted" feeling for kate by date other people in short times but as you guys can see not just Lucy "Loved" Kate but She IS IN LOVE with her!! Like Lucy herself said Feelings is like wave..everytime she saw Whistler that Feelings always gonna come like High tides to Lucy!!!
like the time she went find her at the beach.. so funny lucy was all tongue twisted then when kate got hurt lucy kept insisting she keep the icepak on her chin THEN when lucy was puncing the hitLady .. iwas thinking (that she was thinking) " this is for hurting her"
I knew that promotion was offered back before she joined the FBI! That's exactly how I wanted this to play out. Sure it's still messy but it proves that despite her massive stupid mistake, Whistler was as committed to Lucy as Lucy was to her. I say it every week but I think this relationship is being extremely well written, despite the fact they've been broken up maybe longer than they were together 😄 It's so refreshing to see them acknowledge the emotional fallout from the Cara reveal, especially for Lucy. Usually a show will throw something like that in, break a couple up, then they don't interact for half a season, before circumstances force them to work together and they still have feeling and BAM! they're back together without ever having talked about what happened, acknowledged mistakes, feelings etc. etc. It feels like they're really allowing Lucy to work through her heartbreak in quite a healthy way, and for a believable amount of time. They've also managed to undercut the Cara thing with cold, hard proof that career driven Kate Whistler turned down a big promotion to stay with Lucy. I do think we need to give Whistler a chance to express some feelings now though. And then, hopefully, if/when they get back together, it's been done in a really mature way, that still allows the audience to care and root for them as a couple, despite a sort of cheating storyline. All that is to say, it's very rare to see a show use a kind of cheating storyline to actually add depth to a relationship and make it stronger in a very believable and grown up way.
jajaja es muy cierto lo de que han estado más tiempo sin relación amorosa que lo que han estado juntas.... (inserten aquí la conversación de Ernie y Lucy diciendo... "it's been a few weeks, on and off, mostly off and always FRUSTRATING" justo así me siento, pero bueno, se aproxima final de temporada y la sorpresa que tienen 🎉❤)
I think we will get that expression from Kate in the last two episodes of the season. I love the way they've written them. Time heals all wounds they say.
I know everyone is disappointed right now. But I like where this is going. It means that there is more to their story. it will become much more deeper and longer. Not immediate happy ending and then less screen time for the two. So I am being positive here that this is just the writers way for us to be more INTO the series. They will get back together eventually. we will just have to be patient. 💚☺️
You can see throughout the whole season that Kate is an introvert and someone who thinks a lot before she speaks - she doesn't say much, and that's why whenever Lucy keeps shutting her up, she doesn't fight it. She never gets frazzled with her words like Lucy does, and she's also very guarded and doesn't talk a lot about her feeling. I think as an extrovert, chatty, sharer, Lucy needs to recognise that and at the very least, LET. THE. WOMAN. SPEAK.
Maybe that will be the „grand gesture“ in the finale: Kate finally snapping and going all, „Lucy, I love you too, but shut the hell up and let me talk for once.“ 😂😂😂
Everyone saying Lucy doesn’t allow Kate to speak. I do understand but at the same time Lucy is trying to protect herself. She’s already been very hurt by Kate and she doesn’t want her to hurt her more. It is frustrating but at the same time I understand her point of view.
Talk about miscommunication. Whistler just sadly limped away from Lucy when she heard her say she’s seeing someone. Whistler then smiled while answering Lucy’s question with a yes, just to be yelled at and accused of ruining everything. Heartbroken for sure. Mean Whistler might come back
Damn Lucy…the girl is literally broken you could’ve saved this until the ribs around her heart were healed. They are both in love everybody sees it just go with it.
I totally feel for Kate here. Yes she did commit a mistake, but her feelings for Lucy is genuine and problem with Kate is that she is never expressive about her feelings. Kate is there all alone hoping to get back to Lucy. I can feel here, the pain of loving some one and being ignored / feeling so lonely and alone with emptiness ...kinda sailed that ship.
espero que esa sorpresa que tienen preparada para el último capítulo sea de verdad JODIDAMENTE EXTRAORDINARIA!!!! Porque ya sufro mucho con mi vida personal como para todavía sufrir con Lucy y Kate! 😢
Am just hoping that that second date with that girl goes side ways so that Lucy can know that not everyone can keep up with her childish emotions but Kate
Lucy is mad because she now knows what they could've have been by now if the Cara thing didn't happen, she knows now that Kate is serious as hell with her like she is with her from the very start, but yeah that thing happened, and right now Lucy is being irrational because she's still madly inlove with Kate given her reaction at the beach and when Kate got hurt.Kate just needs a lil more persistence and she'll gonna crack
For real Lucy need to chill. She never intend to hurt her in the first place, it was an honest mistake, and she have apologized. Then why all this back and forth.
No way, Kate is not going to lose Lucy. And I am sure abt it because the synopsis says that in the last episode she is gonna try to have Lucy back. And I think Lucy needed to say what she felt, and how broken she was when everything happened.
What if the "big gesture" in the finale is Kate getting in the way of a bullet to save Lucy? And then they leave us with Kate bleeding and Lucy next to her saying she love her while in the ambulance? 😱
@@iatinom22 OMG! I wouldn't never thought abt something like that, but like things are going and how these writers seems to like so much drama it can be possible. But I hope that it isn't the great gesture. It would destroy me But I guess that the way they said that the Great gesture was to kate have lucy back, I think is more realeted to their releashionship on how kate was trying to keep it in secret, and how lucy thought she wasn't kace's priority. Something in that way
@@marianarodriguesnakano7248 Following the logic of the relationship and how much Kate has struggled with keeping things a secret, I'm also pretty sure the "big gesture" is possibly expressing her feelings for Lucy in front of everyone. Anyway, I'm not going to deny that I would like something more dramatic, like risking her life for Lucy, mostly because Lucy has spent half a season reproaching Kate for her mistake.
Ugh! I’m tired of Kate never being able to talk. I hope the show doesn’t drag us along about this relationship until next season. It’s extremely frustrating
Pls.... lucy don"t be scared to express the love the one you love.😍😍😍pls... let kate make up for the love for the both of you. i'm really in love with the chemistry that you hv.❤and thank you for making me updating to this two wonderful lady.
The way this episode ended was just cruel. Lucy definitely frightened of her feelings. I get where she's coming from, but now Kate is having her heart broken as well. Why? Because they love each other!! P&S.
This is so frustrating!! Come on Lucy, get over yourself... Stop playing the victim now.... I really feel sorry for Kate, because she clearly loves Lucy. Does anyone else also feel bad for the "other girl", because she is the one that's going to get hurt at the end of the day. Lucy and Kate WILL get back together, because they are meant to be. That being said, the other girl is going to be left standing .... 😢😢
@@onm9957 Let's hope Lucy comes to her senses before that girl can even become a side piece ...... Oh my goodness, the drama, the drama, the drama .... 😂😂😂
@@slokim9102 Thanx for helping me right .... I just realized it sounds so disrespectful just to talk about "the other girl". I must have missed her name somehow. 😄👍👍
honestly, i am watching the series basically because of Lucy and Whistler story. but the series is great. love the plot. it’s just that the lucy/kate story is dragging already 🥺
I’m SCREAMING!!! Loved!!?? Lucy no 😭 Edit: okay I think I got a hold of myself. It started out so good but y’all are right in a way. Lucy is emotionally hurting her own self for not allowing Kate to express her own sorrows and brokenness. Yes Kate made a mistake but it wasn’t to hurt Lucy. Kate thought it was over because after nine months of not hearing from someone you are supposedly dating, it’s obviously you were ghosted and that was the end. Kate would of eventually told Lucy (yet we would never know since Cara came to ruin everything because she didn’t take the ghosting as an end to a relationship that was already on the rocks). Kate deserves to have a chance to say her side because what else can come from turning down a job where her supposed gf is. If Kate was really going to play Lucy she would of taken the job but she stayed. She loves Lucy as much as Luc “loved” her. Lucy needs to give Kate a chance. One chance to show Lucy that she does love her more than she’ll ever know. 😩 please.
I miss the whistler who strode into the bull pen in the early episodes and demanded to see Tennant in her office over Lucy reading the report. Kate just looks like a beat down person who can’t even look Lucy in the eyes for a minute. Kate needs to defend herself instead of Lucy shutting her up. The look on Kate’s face after the “ because I loved you Kate” was the perfect display of can’t believe into fully realizing what she lost. Waiting on the next episode is excruciating
I guess the deeper she fell for Lucy the softer she became, plus she still was professional and badass while working with Tennant. I guess the feels apologetic towards Lucy bc she knows she messed up and she’s sad she lost her. But she definitely needs to speak up more and tell her side of the story/declaring her feelings
Not that i dont want kacy to get back together ASAP but tell me why lucy doesnt deserve to feel this way because kate did hide the fact she was already in another relationship when she was going in deep with lucy, then wanted to keep everything a secret and made lucy feel she was an embarrassment. Both of them got communication issues but yall are so quick to just forgive kate on lucy’s behalf when lucy should have her own process.
Btw the writing is whack, the way they were chatting in the beginning of the scene and how earlier scenes went, i just dont understand why the writers insist on inflicting pain on them and us
Lucy please just let Kate talk 😭 She's too afraid that she would let Kate in her life again but she doesn't realize she still LOVES her. Just get back already 😭
I think Lucy's reaction is understandable though it's dragged. I mean, Cara seemed to be very comfortable calling herself Kate's gf. So, it's normal that in Lucy's mind she believes that Kate kept the relationship with Cara going while they were dating. So, she "cheated". Now, The problem Is: she doesn't let Kate talk so, we won't have her pov.
Exactly. she probably has all these ideas in her mind of her not mening much to kate bc she was with Cara, but we know it's not true at all. She just needs to hear Kate telling her that she was all she cared about and she loves her too, and so she could start healing and then get back together
I love seeing them smile to each other but i"m sad that they won"t express the feellings that they hv for each other, i'm hoping that one day they will be bck to their each other arms.❤
What if Kates Grand gesture is she will leave Lucy alone so she can be happy and decides to leave for DC to take that job even though she denied it the first time! That way Lucy realize she doesn’t want her to leave and takes her back.
Lucy keeps telling Kate not to say anything because she knows if she does she will. forgive her, and I guess she is scared of forgiving her. But she will, eventually, because she obviously still loves her, my guess is that they will get back together at the end of the last episode.
At this point if Kate ever wants a shot at getting Lucy back she needs to go to her and talk first because if she waits on Lucy it’ll never happen.😂Lucy stay not giving her a chance to reply. She still has a slight window of opportunity to win her back and she better do it fast after this weeks ending
I'm sorry but clearly Lucy is being so ridiculous now. She loves Whistler and she knows now that Whistler does too, but she keep resisting to really forgive Whistler. No relationship is perfect, and I don't think what Whistler did is that bad. And now she choose to try with that "some girl". This time, I'm kind of tired with Lucy's whiny attitude, although it breaks my heart seeing her crying like that.
Will be crushed if they do not get back together. These two have such chemistry. The way they look at each other melts your heart. They definitely have their own previous issues and it would help a lot to know what they are. They both have been back and forth on being openly together. Even though Kate should have told Lucy about Cara, I can understand after being gone from DC that long her thinking it wasn't necessary and figured it had fizzled out. And can understand Lucy being hurt, but there is no indication Kate cheated on Lucy. The communication skills for both are sorely missing. Lucy gets mad and shuts Kate down and Kate is at a loss on how to respond. I agree Lucy getting mad about Kate's job decision is just an excuse. She is terrified to give Kate a chance, because she will see just how much Kate loves her. Putting Lucy above any career advancement. It will be an interesting 2 episodes to finish the season. Though I get what the writers are doing, they do need to get it resolved. I don't know that I can watch next season if they aren't back together or totally split. But would hope that decision will be made after both get a chance to open up about their feelings once and for all. Because if one moves forward, I want both to be able to and they can't truly do that until they deal with their feelings. Right now Kate's heart is the one being trampled on. Lucy must have been cheated on in the past and I think the secrecy thing with Kate is from not being comfortable coming out as a lesbian for career reasons or even family. I'm not expecting a full blown get make up, but just want them both to recognize their love for each other and that their relationship is definitely worth saving.
Maybe they'll address it in one of the last episodes but I wonder is that why Cara showed up when she did? Like Whistler casually mentioned she wasn't coming back to DC, and Cara was like "isn't that something you should discuss with your girlfriend?" and Whistler was like "how do you know my girlfriend?" 😄 Obviously it didn't play out quite like that, but it would be interesting if that is why Cara ended up coming to visit, and literally how Whistler realised she accidentally had 2 girlfriends.
An interviewer asked a creator news on Kate and Lucy storyline and the creator said I am hearing that the last three episodes of the season really lean into the Kacy story line as the exes will be forced to face their feelings for each other - as well as face the risk of losing each other. By all accounts one sequence in particular in the May 23 finale will have shippers talking
I'm just really getting tired of the fact that Lucy is not giving Kate the right to speak at all. I know that Kate made a mistake but in all honesty, she was so sure that everything was over between her and Cara and that she did not want to hurt Lucy at all. I am just so hurt for both of them. The acting is just too real. 😭😭😭
Roller coaster🤦♀️ I was just smiling and then..🙄So Lucy continue seeing the cute girl and then when somebody will appear for Kates love interest, Lucy will realize that she still love and want Kate in her life.. oh my.. can I have an endgame here.lol
I really need these two back together but they really need to talk, like seriously talk. I feel that when they do finally talk Lucy really needs to hear Whistler out. I know Lucy is still hurt & her walls are up but give Whistler a chance to explain.
If only Lucy listen to what Kate have to say that rain check with that woman won't even be valid. I think I'm gonna stop here until more episodes come out cause waiting for one one episode is torture 😭 😩
I appreciate the show giving Lucy time to process and knowing her worth! It is starting to feel like the narrative is going in circles bc Kate has not explained herself atp, but I’m glad they didn’t gloss over her cheating. I don’t think Kate is malicious, I just think she’s horrible at communicating and playing things close to her chest comes off as selfish. I imagine a lot of it is Kate’s own past as DIA, losing her brother, etc, she seems to have problems letting ppl in. She was very mean girl, closed-off, hot & cold with Lucy at the start of the show. I enjoy the growth that she is slowly changing and opening up from that, but it won’t happen all at once. I think the biggest thing for Lucy this ep was finding out Kate kept ANOTHER secret from her. We already know Lucy values openness, that it’s a need she put aside to be with Whistler at the pace Whistler was comfortable with, & that it bit her in the ass when she found out Whistler had a whole girlfriend she never mentioned. So yet another secret after Whistler finally apologized for the first hit hard. She was offered a promotion, weighed it, ultimately declined it, but for Lucy hearing this from a stranger for the first time?? Prolly felt like another betrayal. What if Kate had decided to take the promotion?? Lucy would’ve been blindsided, in love with a woman who left and didn’t even tell her that her leaving was a possibility. All this after almost losing Whistler and almost being killed herself. She’s got a lot to process! I hope reconciliation happens by the end of the season, but I don’t blame her for any of her reactions. I do wish the show would give us some Kate scenes of what Kate is thinking thru all this, what the hell she was thinking w the cara situation, what that entire situation actually entailed (how involved was she w cara once she and Lucy started dating?? We know in the rock’n’bowl scene where she snapped at Lucy that that was probably cara on the phone so clearly she had been communicating w her the entire time?? Which makes the betrayal worse?? Explain urself Kate Whistler! But given her billing, I don’t think we will find much out about that. Idk how we’ll get from this point to reconciliation but am still hopeful that’s the goal, bc 12 eps for a breakup of a relationship that lasted 4-5 eps makes no narrative sense.
oh my, why is it that when it seems everything is going to be okay with Lucy and Kate, something comes up. i believe this Lucy’s feeling betrayed is dragging already. it’s about time they get back together again or just, move on as Ernie has “suggested” before. but i would love to see them together
OMG just look at Kate's face...she looks like sad puppy with broken heart. I'm just annoyed by Lucy's behaviour at this point. Like I basiclly think that whole case with Kara was just one big misunderstanding and Lucy made it look like something trully unforgivable. Now she's the one who broke Kate's heart many times. Writer making it so dirty rn that it's hard to watch...
Ok Random theory here: Kate was offered position, turns it down and tell Cara so she knows she's not coming back. Cara tells her she's coming to Hawaii to talk. Kate planned to tell Lucy after talking to Cara since it was a immediate change for her and Cara but Lucy went to the door and found out
@@onm9957 True, but she didn't know until she arrived, and was surprised by Cara showing up. After all, it had been over a year since they were physically together. She never expected Cara to come to Hawaii.
Whistler!!!!! Say something, don't let her walk away!!!! Tell her that you're in love with her and that's she everything!!!! Tell her you won't stop until she realizes you are the one!!!!
I loved Kacy but at this point Kate seems like she’s the only one growing and actually dealing with her emotional issues. Lucy’s just running scared and making Kate pay over and over again while she gets to start dating someone else. She’s not even mature enough to give Kate the respect of hearing her out. I’m Team Kate and until Lucy grows up I hope they give Kate a better love interest and more screen time with a love interest and more Tenstler screen time.
I love Lucy, but I'm siding towards Kate. Yes she it was her fault, but Kate is trying and giving Lucy the space she needs. But Lucy needs to realize she's not the only one hurting.
@@flormariamendozarengifo7541 en resumen, le preguntó si era cierto que había rechazado la promoción en DC y Kate se lo confirmó, Lucy le preguntó que porque no se lo dijo y Kate le contestó que iba hacerlo pero fue cuando pasó todo el despapaye de la ex tons Lucy le dijo que ya no iba a dejar que la siguiera lastimando que porque arruinaba todo, que tenían algo especial y que rompió su corazón en un millón de pedazos😭😭 porque la amaba💔 y Lucy de plano se cerró y ya no dejó que Kate le dijera nada más 😔😔
I might add, Tori Anderson is the queen of emotion in one single facial expression. She's amazing.
Truth !!!! ❣️ I love her .. and you can't deny the fact that she is really an amazing actress !!!! ❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
@@suzukischroeter2482 yeah, I'm kinda crushing right now!!
so true..
Yeah you can really see and feel her on that scene… 💕
Thank you finally someone to notice tori's fantastic portrayel of those emotional scenes she nails it every single time
The way Lucy NEVER hears Kate out, she doesn’t let her explain anything, she doesn’t let her talk to her, she completely shuts her out. She can’t fully heal and move on if she doesn’t LISTEN to her. I feel like hearing her out and understanding her POV could really help her have some peace and comfort.
That is a unhealthy relationship right there with lucy always playing the victim card and blaming kate for everything.
I don't know how kate handles been emotionally tortured every single week.
I think she stopped her and has stopped her in the past is because she know how she feels/felt for kate and if she let's her say something like she loves/loved her too it would be confusing or sum like that for Lucy nit saying it's right but yeah
I felt bad for Kate every ep. The way Lucy always stops her coz she know when Kate will say something and she’s afraid to let Kate in her life again. And I hate the fact that she’s trying to date someone so that she can move on from Kate.
I just hope for a “stop! and please hear me out”
I am officially sick of lucys shit haha. It's always her way. Her words.. Her hurt..
I’m in tears! Lucy finally admitted the feelings then wouldn’t let Kate say anything. I get she’s trying to protect herself from getting hurt again but I wanted to hear what Kate had to say.
So true
I agree she need to hear what Kate have to say
I think Lucy knows what Kate has to say, she don't want to listen to because after that promotion been turn down with a goal oriented person just want to be with her surely Kate will say she love Lucy too. But sad to say that all tht beautiful thing happened to them was broken because eof the secret Kate had and that was Cara.
@@erialccrasher970 your soo right lucy knew by this scene kate was inlove with her too. I think thats what made it easy for her to say it because i suppose she knew by then that kate loved her and she still broke her heart. I dunno
meanwhile... Tennant is making 12 cups of tea.
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She said that to give them privacy..
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absolutely heart shattering the way whistler smiles when she admits she turned down the promotion because she thinks lucy is gonna be happy about it
Poor Whistler is getting her hopes up and then being crushed all over again. If I was her I‘d consider walking away. (Well, obviously don’t want her too but come on….)
Lucy is in denial period,stop punishing Kate.
Same smile she had after Lucy said she almost died and it taught her who she can trust. Whistler smiled thinking she meant her but then Lucy said she is longer a bet she can take. 🙁
@@pinkdahlia6363 oh my god you're so right
@@pinkdahlia6363 EXACTLY ! I thought i was the only one to notice . My poor Whistler thinking she will get lucy happy. And then puppy eyes so sad to see her like that
The way Kate was holding back tears during the entire conversation 😭😭
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I know a lot of people are somewhat upset by how this is going, but I honestly kind of like it. It's frustrating, yes, but I think it shows how imperfect both of them are. It's messy and often seems like a "one step forward, two steps back" sort of thing, but I think that's the whole point. It's not as clear cut as, "Whistler's a cheater, she sucks, the relationship is over", or, "Lucy's being mean and immature and Whistler deserves better". Both characters are sympathetic, and both have also behaved immaturely.
For Lucy, I think her problem is that she's struggling to listen. On the one hand, in theory, Lucy has no OBLIGATION to hear Whistler out. Whistler hurt her, and she's totally within her right to decide that they're done and that she wants nothing more than a professional relationship. But on the other hand, in practice, she's NOT maintaining a professional relationship. She scolds Whistler in an unprofessional way when she gets hurt, she often reverts back into their playful banter, and she also frequently gets upset with Whistler and brings up her past mistake. This is understandable, of course, since she's clearly still hurting and in love with Whistler, but it also is in no way professional. And if she's not going to keep their relationship professional and continues to bring up the past, then she DOES need to let Whistler speak. You really can't have both-- either keep it professional, or let Whistler actually try to communicate back when you repeatedly lay all of your hurt onto her. She can't just be an emotional punching bag to help Lucy vent about her (justified) hurt.
For Whistler, I think she's struggling to actually grasp what really hurts Lucy. Whistler clearly isn't malicious in any of her actions, but rather she just seems to be a bit clueless at effectively communicating. Lucy's anger at Whistler rejecting the promotion seems a bit irrational (and it probably is), but also Whistler clearly didn't understand why it would hurt Lucy. The whole keeping important things from Lucy and then having her find out through a third party is clearly very triggering, and then the reminder of Cara probably didn't help. But Whistler seems to have trouble understanding that for Lucy, a relationship is founded on openness. I'd imagine that as a former intelligence officer and also just a rather closed off seeming person in general, Whistler is used to compartmentalizing everything, including relationships. And while it's clearly she's working on being better at being open and improving her communication, she unsurprisingly is still learning.
I think it's pretty easy for people to sort of side with Whistler here, and that's (imo) because she's just looks so sad all the time! With Lucy, we get to see her in plenty of interactions unrelated to Whistler, and we also see her having friendships with the rest of the team and trying to move on romantically as well. On the other hand, we more often see Whistler just looking sad and getting yelled at by Lucy, without any of the cool confidence that she had in earlier episodes. So it's definitely easy to sympathize with her.
But I do like how long this is taking to resolve. I know that it feels frustrating, but shows so often just brush over cheating storylines and leave you feeling like things weren't properly resolved (oftentimes I end up never forgiving the character who cheated). This one not only actually gives an appropriate amount of time to how you'd actually deal with something like this, but also actually is showing the problems in the relationship that led up to the break up (Lucy's stubbornness, unwillingness to listen, Whistler's poor communication, lack of openness).
Ik this was very long but honestly it's just because I'm really enjoying this slow development and it kinda makes me sad that people seem to be writing it off so much! But I do agree that it's frustrating.
Thanks for post. I agree with your sentiments
Great points. I hope they get back together.
Well said. Thanks for the analysis. I guess I find it hard to watch when it has gone on so long with what the writers choose to show us. Which unfortunately looks very similar each episode. Either the elevator doors shut or Whistler gets the sharp end of Lucy’s stick.
Terrific analysis.
Gah dayum what’s with the essay 😩
The way Kate has been trying to respect Lucy's wishes and been holding back all of her emotions to put what Lucy wants first is making me love her even more. Woman is loving Lucy the best way she knows how, even if Lucy can't see it.
I still have my fingers crossed for these two fifteen the road.
I love how they went from ignoring each other to goin back to flirting with each other I’m ready for next week episode with them talking and being back together for once and for all
that'll be two weeks unfortunately
@@Nicho213007 do yk what date exactly?
Lucy is obviously scared even after dropping the L word. A healthy relationship/ conversation would allow for Kate to reply. Especially because Lucy asked her about DC. I think Whistler would have responded in a positive manner. Lucy being her own blocker. 😂😭❤️😜
O q será q a lucy quer, caramba.
I agree!! 😡. I’m disappointed in the series, you think they’re finally getting closer again….,then stubborn Lucey gets them back to square 1… or square 0, zilch, nada, kaput!! Damn it. Move on Whistler… you deserve better..
Do you think Kate and Lucy will back together before season finale for NCIS Hawaii
@@ruthmelo168 I think Lucy is just afraid to give it a try. Hehe
@@sampiboon3532 that depends on Kate(and the writers)..PLEASE….hear Whistler out!!!! Please,
I think they will, the series won’t survive if this cast doesn’t stay together!!
"Because I loved you Kate".... The words that pierced our hearts. Let's hope #Kacy has grown and their communication is 90% better.
I think people fail to see how Lucy is acting in order to protect herself. I think she’s been hurt in the past based on her black and white thinking, maybe something happened with family dynamics. No one acts like this out of the blue, I don’t think Whistler brought this on. She’s upset finding out about Kate staying in Hawaii because that confirms that she truly was in it, that she wasn’t just a fling for her or that Lucy was the other woman. I think this proves it to her that Kate, in her own way, is showing she loves her. And I can see that Lucy is upset with herself for being mad. I’ve been mad at myself for being so upset at a situation and grasp at something to be mad about, and this is another thing for Lucy. She’s trying to find a reason to stay mad, to justify it. It’s sad because it shows how deep her hurt goes. If Kate explains herself, which I’m sure Lucy knows deep down what she’ll say, there’s no more running, no more reasons to stay mad. Yes she’s acting childish and it’s frustrating to see but I can tell that it comes from a place of deep hurt that is prior to Kate, and I want to see what that is. We don’t know much of either of the two and they both carry something. Kate is terrible at communicating and charges head first into things without thinking, Lucy seems to think too much about things. They balance eachother out in this regard. Both have their flaws and it’s difficult to choose a side, I see both sides having their own part in this.
Wow totally agree with you
love it!!!! ❤
I am with your analysis.✨
What a deep analysis
I agree with that 💯
Lucy is such a cutie and I love how expressive she is. Thanks for putting these together showing the relationship between Lucy and Kate...
I mean, of course they're keeping the angst going, they have 2 more episodes? They'd have no overarching plot if they just resolved it here. And Lucy's reaction is understandable--it's not healthy, but it's human. She still needs time to figure things out, and we know already that she sees things in black and white. It's hard to grow out of that mind-set.
And thanks again for the fast upload!!
well said!
This is Lucy literally running away from her feelings and she is overwhelmed by everything “Whistler”. Given the circumstances, Kate deserves so much better. Not fair. Just hear Kate out for once, Lucy! This time it’s you breaking her heart. The writers better reunite these two by the season finale.
It's so annoying, like her initial reaction was understandable, but emotionally destroying kate every episode is too far.
@@martinmorles1 Yes! Lucy needs to grow up a bit. I understand she had to say what she did but why do this to Kate today leaving her more of a wreck than she already is.
She is always like: why didn’t you tell me but at the same time saying: don’t say anything
Ñeee
@@Poln4 maybe she just super sad and disappointed bcs she already dating someone then she knew whistler turned down the promotion to stay close to her.
@@umminasaruddin4468 yeah, but i hope she realizes that she has been the one closing the door in Kate’s face. Since the day the Cara situation happened at least.
I don’t blame her completely. She is hurt and it’s a defense mechanism. But in fact, both of them are suffering.
They evidently have chemistry. They shut themselves out avoiding to get trap in the good feeling ~~
I just hope they can be happy. Yes, they are fictional characters, but I live through 2d and 3d characters’ love~~
OMG..this kills me, you know Lucy's feeling for Kate and then she drop the Loved word there but she doesn't want to give Kate a chance to say it back. Because she know she'll give in. And getting back to dating someone knowing you haven't get over yet and still in love with somebody is wrong. It's like Kate's mistake not breaking up with Cara even she's already dating and having feelings for Lucy. But anyway they're not over yet, they'll realize and stop running from their own feelings❤️.
Lucy stopping Kate from replying because she's afraid kate did/does reciprocate and that would make what they lost hurt so much more. She won't let Kate say it because she knows she'll be a goner, and it's so much easier to hate someone who broke your heart than have to confront that you're still in love with them.
Guys guys...Lucy just masking her "distorted" feeling for kate by date other people in short times but as you guys can see not just Lucy "Loved" Kate but She IS IN LOVE with her!! Like Lucy herself said Feelings is like wave..everytime she saw Whistler that Feelings always gonna come like High tides to Lucy!!!
Totally agree with you!!✋
like the time she went find her at the beach.. so funny lucy was all tongue twisted
then when kate got hurt lucy kept insisting she keep the icepak on her chin
THEN when lucy was puncing the hitLady .. iwas thinking (that she was thinking) " this is for hurting her"
I am on your side!!🫶High tides is cutest description!
I knew that promotion was offered back before she joined the FBI! That's exactly how I wanted this to play out. Sure it's still messy but it proves that despite her massive stupid mistake, Whistler was as committed to Lucy as Lucy was to her.
I say it every week but I think this relationship is being extremely well written, despite the fact they've been broken up maybe longer than they were together 😄
It's so refreshing to see them acknowledge the emotional fallout from the Cara reveal, especially for Lucy. Usually a show will throw something like that in, break a couple up, then they don't interact for half a season, before circumstances force them to work together and they still have feeling and BAM! they're back together without ever having talked about what happened, acknowledged mistakes, feelings etc. etc.
It feels like they're really allowing Lucy to work through her heartbreak in quite a healthy way, and for a believable amount of time. They've also managed to undercut the Cara thing with cold, hard proof that career driven Kate Whistler turned down a big promotion to stay with Lucy.
I do think we need to give Whistler a chance to express some feelings now though. And then, hopefully, if/when they get back together, it's been done in a really mature way, that still allows the audience to care and root for them as a couple, despite a sort of cheating storyline.
All that is to say, it's very rare to see a show use a kind of cheating storyline to actually add depth to a relationship and make it stronger in a very believable and grown up way.
jajaja es muy cierto lo de que han estado más tiempo sin relación amorosa que lo que han estado juntas.... (inserten aquí la conversación de Ernie y Lucy diciendo... "it's been a few weeks, on and off, mostly off and always FRUSTRATING" justo así me siento, pero bueno, se aproxima final de temporada y la sorpresa que tienen 🎉❤)
I think we will get that expression from Kate in the last two episodes of the season. I love the way they've written them. Time heals all wounds they say.
Well said!!!
I know everyone is disappointed right now. But I like where this is going. It means that there is more to their story. it will become much more deeper and longer. Not immediate happy ending and then less screen time for the two. So I am being positive here that this is just the writers way for us to be more INTO the series. They will get back together eventually. we will just have to be patient. 💚☺️
Fingers crossed 🤞
I agree. They built this up all season. Still anxious in my tiny shipper heart. 😬
Wow they really be dragging this angst.
You can see throughout the whole season that Kate is an introvert and someone who thinks a lot before she speaks - she doesn't say much, and that's why whenever Lucy keeps shutting her up, she doesn't fight it. She never gets frazzled with her words like Lucy does, and she's also very guarded and doesn't talk a lot about her feeling. I think as an extrovert, chatty, sharer, Lucy needs to recognise that and at the very least, LET. THE. WOMAN. SPEAK.
ep7?.. i'm trying to do it your way.. be all expressive and smiley.. with lucy's reply, i know you are.. what happened to that?
Maybe that will be the „grand gesture“ in the finale: Kate finally snapping and going all, „Lucy, I love you too, but shut the hell up and let me talk for once.“ 😂😂😂
We would not want to miss that ..... 😂😂
That would be awesome!!!!!!
It’s time! Lol
Everyone saying Lucy doesn’t allow Kate to speak. I do understand but at the same time Lucy is trying to protect herself. She’s already been very hurt by Kate and she doesn’t want her to hurt her more. It is frustrating but at the same time I understand her point of view.
Btw we all know Kate was gonna say it back, if only Lucy let her finish a damn sentence
They can still make it. There are still 2 episodes left.
Whistler's heart is broken too💔
And Lucy trying to see other people is just stupid
Yes or u just want kate to find out to make her jealous
Talk about miscommunication. Whistler just sadly limped away from Lucy when she heard her say she’s seeing someone. Whistler then smiled while answering Lucy’s question with a yes, just to be yelled at and accused of ruining everything. Heartbroken for sure. Mean Whistler might come back
Omg i love the way she shuttered when she saw kate surfing but i hate the way lucy wont let kate talk and try’s to escape from her feelings
“because we had something so good and you broke my heart into a million pieces” holy crap im balling
Damn Lucy…the girl is literally broken you could’ve saved this until the ribs around her heart were healed. They are both in love everybody sees it just go with it.
Please let Kate talk Lucy..
I'm crying now.😭😭😭
I totally feel for Kate here. Yes she did commit a mistake, but her feelings for Lucy is genuine and problem with Kate is that she is never expressive about her feelings. Kate is there all alone hoping to get back to Lucy. I can feel here, the pain of loving some one and being ignored / feeling so lonely and alone with emptiness ...kinda sailed that ship.
espero que esa sorpresa que tienen preparada para el último capítulo sea de verdad JODIDAMENTE EXTRAORDINARIA!!!! Porque ya sufro mucho con mi vida personal como para todavía sufrir con Lucy y Kate! 😢
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I think she Should've let her reply to her and I think she told her She loved her
al fin alguien escribe en español 🙏.. por favor comentame que se dijeron estas mujeres..
jajajaja x2
😪😪😪Ya somos dos sufriendo por kate y la dura de lucy
And here we are again... lucy running away!
But aww... she told her she loved her (loves her, i think)
The most powerful and loving scene. Both start to understand each other.
Why is Lucy even mad about 🥺 she is already seeing someone else
She wanted apologies ,Kate apologized
Am just hoping that that second date with that girl goes side ways so that Lucy can know that not everyone can keep up with her childish emotions but Kate
Lucy is mad because she now knows what they could've have been by now if the Cara thing didn't happen, she knows now that Kate is serious as hell with her like she is with her from the very start, but yeah that thing happened, and right now Lucy is being irrational because she's still madly inlove with Kate given her reaction at the beach and when Kate got hurt.Kate just needs a lil more persistence and she'll gonna crack
Right!!! I know Kate is confused as hell. Like what did I do this time 😀😀😀
For real Lucy need to chill. She never intend to hurt her in the first place, it was an honest mistake, and she have apologized. Then why all this back and forth.
No way, Kate is not going to lose Lucy. And I am sure abt it because the synopsis says that in the last episode she is gonna try to have Lucy back.
And I think Lucy needed to say what she felt, and how broken she was when everything happened.
try doesn't necessarily mean she'll succeed.. another false flag.. more likely the final end
What if the "big gesture" in the finale is Kate getting in the way of a bullet to save Lucy? And then they leave us with Kate bleeding and Lucy next to her saying she love her while in the ambulance? 😱
@@iatinom22 OMG! I wouldn't never thought abt something like that, but like things are going and how these writers seems to like so much drama it can be possible. But I hope that it isn't the great gesture. It would destroy me But I guess that the way they said that the Great gesture was to kate have lucy back, I think is more realeted to their releashionship on how kate was trying to keep it in secret, and how lucy thought she wasn't kace's priority. Something in that way
@@slokim9102 yeah, but i am with a big hope waiting for this great gesture. 😂
@@marianarodriguesnakano7248 Following the logic of the relationship and how much Kate has struggled with keeping things a secret, I'm also pretty sure the "big gesture" is possibly expressing her feelings for Lucy in front of everyone.
Anyway, I'm not going to deny that I would like something more dramatic, like risking her life for Lucy, mostly because Lucy has spent half a season reproaching Kate for her mistake.
Ugh! I’m tired of Kate never being able to talk. I hope the show doesn’t drag us along about this relationship until next season. It’s extremely frustrating
Pls.... lucy don"t be scared to express the love the one you love.😍😍😍pls... let kate make up for the love for the both of you. i'm really in love with the chemistry that you hv.❤and thank you for making me updating to this two wonderful lady.
That hurt worse than the 11th episode.
Yeah right 😥
oh for sure
idought there was any dry tears from us fans .watching THAT scene
The way this episode ended was just cruel. Lucy definitely frightened of her feelings. I get where she's coming from, but now Kate is having her heart broken as well. Why? Because they love each other!! P&S.
Que vuelvan Lucy y Kate❤tienen una química increible ❤❤
I must say Tori's facial expressions are so damn dead-on everytime. Her face says it all. 😍😍😍
The look on Kate face when Lucy started to tell her that she was seeing someone she was hurt
I don't want Lucy with someone else I want them Kate getting back together 😭😭😭
This is so frustrating!! Come on Lucy, get over yourself... Stop playing the victim now.... I really feel sorry for Kate, because she clearly loves Lucy. Does anyone else also feel bad for the "other girl", because she is the one that's going to get hurt at the end of the day. Lucy and Kate WILL get back together, because they are meant to be. That being said, the other girl is going to be left standing .... 😢😢
Exactly, Lucy will make her feel like a side piece as she felt.
@@onm9957 Let's hope Lucy comes to her senses before that girl can even become a side piece ...... Oh my goodness, the drama, the drama, the drama .... 😂😂😂
Skylar
@@slokim9102 Thanx for helping me right .... I just realized it sounds so disrespectful just to talk about "the other girl". I must have missed her name somehow. 😄👍👍
honestly, i am watching the series basically because of Lucy and Whistler story. but the series is great. love the plot. it’s just that the lucy/kate story is dragging already 🥺
I’m SCREAMING!!! Loved!!?? Lucy no 😭
Edit: okay I think I got a hold of myself. It started out so good but y’all are right in a way. Lucy is emotionally hurting her own self for not allowing Kate to express her own sorrows and brokenness. Yes Kate made a mistake but it wasn’t to hurt Lucy. Kate thought it was over because after nine months of not hearing from someone you are supposedly dating, it’s obviously you were ghosted and that was the end. Kate would of eventually told Lucy (yet we would never know since Cara came to ruin everything because she didn’t take the ghosting as an end to a relationship that was already on the rocks). Kate deserves to have a chance to say her side because what else can come from turning down a job where her supposed gf is. If Kate was really going to play Lucy she would of taken the job but she stayed. She loves Lucy as much as Luc “loved” her. Lucy needs to give Kate a chance. One chance to show Lucy that she does love her more than she’ll ever know. 😩 please.
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well sayd
I love kate 😍
I miss the whistler who strode into the bull pen in the early episodes and demanded to see Tennant in her office over Lucy reading the report. Kate just looks like a beat down person who can’t even look Lucy in the eyes for a minute. Kate needs to defend herself instead of Lucy shutting her up. The look on Kate’s face after the “ because I loved you Kate” was the perfect display of can’t believe into fully realizing what she lost. Waiting on the next episode is excruciating
People always act softly around there lovers compared to workmates
I guess the deeper she fell for Lucy the softer she became, plus she still was professional and badass while working with Tennant. I guess the feels apologetic towards Lucy bc she knows she messed up and she’s sad she lost her. But she definitely needs to speak up more and tell her side of the story/declaring her feelings
Not that i dont want kacy to get back together ASAP but tell me why lucy doesnt deserve to feel this way because kate did hide the fact she was already in another relationship when she was going in deep with lucy, then wanted to keep everything a secret and made lucy feel she was an embarrassment. Both of them got communication issues but yall are so quick to just forgive kate on lucy’s behalf when lucy should have her own process.
Btw the writing is whack, the way they were chatting in the beginning of the scene and how earlier scenes went, i just dont understand why the writers insist on inflicting pain on them and us
Lucy please just let Kate talk 😭 She's too afraid that she would let Kate in her life again but she doesn't realize she still LOVES her. Just get back already 😭
I think Lucy's reaction is understandable though it's dragged.
I mean, Cara seemed to be very comfortable calling herself Kate's gf. So, it's normal that in Lucy's mind she believes that Kate kept the relationship with Cara going while they were dating. So, she "cheated".
Now, The problem Is: she doesn't let Kate talk so, we won't have her pov.
Couldn’t agree more …
Exactly. she probably has all these ideas in her mind of her not mening much to kate bc she was with Cara, but we know it's not true at all. She just needs to hear Kate telling her that she was all she cared about and she loves her too, and so she could start healing and then get back together
I love seeing them smile to each other but i"m sad that they won"t express the feellings that they hv for each other, i'm hoping that one day they will be bck to their each other arms.❤
What if Kates Grand gesture is she will leave Lucy alone so she can be happy and decides to leave for DC to take that job even though she denied it the first time! That way Lucy realize she doesn’t want her to leave and takes her back.
That line "don't say anything else please"......ugh .....just rips your heart out.
Lucy keeps telling Kate not to say anything because she knows if she does she will. forgive her, and I guess she is scared of forgiving her. But she will, eventually, because she obviously still loves her, my guess is that they will get back together at the end of the last episode.
At this point if Kate ever wants a shot at getting Lucy back she needs to go to her and talk first because if she waits on Lucy it’ll never happen.😂Lucy stay not giving her a chance to reply. She still has a slight window of opportunity to win her back and she better do it fast after this weeks ending
Okay now this scene is making it impossible for me to wait for the next episode
I was heart broken in this episode. Whistler needs to tell Lucy how she feels and Lucy needs to stop being so bossy
I'm the happiest person in the world to be wrong about the ending. thanks writers.❤️
when whistler already moved on... you'll regret it LUCY😔
Hay no Lucy siempre se echa, le partió el corazón en 4 😖💔😭... Kate la sigue amandola.
I'm sorry but clearly Lucy is being so ridiculous now. She loves Whistler and she knows now that Whistler does too, but she keep resisting to really forgive Whistler. No relationship is perfect, and I don't think what Whistler did is that bad. And now she choose to try with that "some girl". This time, I'm kind of tired with Lucy's whiny attitude, although it breaks my heart seeing her crying like that.
All I've got to say is that Ernie has done more to save this relationship than Lucy...
It's about time to change. Kate need to be brave.
Yeah, Kate needs to take some actions!
Will be crushed if they do not get back together. These two have such chemistry. The way they look at each other melts your heart.
They definitely have their own previous issues and it would help a lot to know what they are. They both have been back and forth on being openly together. Even though Kate should have told Lucy about Cara, I can understand after being gone from DC that long her thinking it wasn't necessary and figured it had fizzled out. And can understand Lucy being hurt, but there is no indication Kate cheated on Lucy. The communication skills for both are sorely missing. Lucy gets mad and shuts Kate down and Kate is at a loss on how to respond. I agree Lucy getting mad about Kate's job decision is just an excuse. She is terrified to give Kate a chance, because she will see just how much Kate loves her. Putting Lucy above any career advancement. It will be an interesting 2 episodes to finish the season. Though I get what the writers are doing, they do need to get it resolved. I don't know that I can watch next season if they aren't back together or totally split. But would hope that decision will be made after both get a chance to open up about their feelings once and for all. Because if one moves forward, I want both to be able to and they can't truly do that until they deal with their feelings. Right now Kate's heart is the one being trampled on. Lucy must have been cheated on in the past and I think the secrecy thing with Kate is from not being comfortable coming out as a lesbian for career reasons or even family. I'm not expecting a full blown get make up, but just want them both to recognize their love for each other and that their relationship is definitely worth saving.
Wow!!!!! Well said !!
Found this😉
Whistler takes Ernie’s advice and makes a grand gesture in the hope of winning Lucy back, on the conclusion of the two-part season finale.
Erie is probably the only one who will be willing to talk to Kate about Lucy anyway , let's see how it goes
Maybe they'll address it in one of the last episodes but I wonder is that why Cara showed up when she did? Like Whistler casually mentioned she wasn't coming back to DC, and Cara was like "isn't that something you should discuss with your girlfriend?" and Whistler was like "how do you know my girlfriend?" 😄
Obviously it didn't play out quite like that, but it would be interesting if that is why Cara ended up coming to visit, and literally how Whistler realised she accidentally had 2 girlfriends.
This woman is showing us self respect and not to settle for someone who lies to you regardless of how you feel.. thannkyouu Lucy,💛
An interviewer asked a creator news on Kate and Lucy storyline and the creator said I am hearing that the last three episodes of the season really lean into the Kacy story line as the exes will be forced to face their feelings for each other - as well as face the risk of losing each other. By all accounts one sequence in particular in the May 23 finale will have shippers talking
YES!!!! Looking forward to the rest of season1❤️
mondays ca *not* come FAST enough
Ok
oh thats good.. im so excited... hope that it will be a happy ending for kate ang lucy...😜
Is it good or bad because, from what we've had ever since even in every other show well, the talk wasn't good at all. 😖
Kate just talk to her even if she asks you not to say anything, just SPEAK and tell her how you feel too!!
I feel like if Lucy haven’t told Kate “don’t say anything else” she would have said I love you back… 🙁
What if the tables are turned and Lucy is the one finding out that Kate is already seeing someone else , would she have reacted calmly like Kate did🤔
@@seanicephanice4184 I mean she would be sad, but she’ll be calm
@@seanicephanice4184 ok but they aren't together she rlly can't do anything
Pourquoi on nous torture 😭😭. Merci pour ton travail
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I'm just really getting tired of the fact that Lucy is not giving Kate the right to speak at all. I know that Kate made a mistake but in all honesty, she was so sure that everything was over between her and Cara and that she did not want to hurt Lucy at all. I am just so hurt for both of them. The acting is just too real. 😭😭😭
I REALLY REALLY WANT LUCY AND KATE TO BE TOGETHER AGAIN,PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucy just love Kate again! Not how I expect this episode to end.
That's how we all expected this episode to end 😔
Roller coaster🤦♀️ I was just smiling and then..🙄So Lucy continue seeing the cute girl and then when somebody will appear for Kates love interest, Lucy will realize that she still love and want Kate in her life.. oh my.. can I have an endgame here.lol
I really need these two back together but they really need to talk, like seriously talk. I feel that when they do finally talk Lucy really needs to hear Whistler out. I know Lucy is still hurt & her walls are up but give Whistler a chance to explain.
writers/producers doing this on purpose
If only Lucy listen to what Kate have to say that rain check with that woman won't even be valid. I think I'm gonna stop here until more episodes come out cause waiting for one one episode is torture 😭 😩
Every episode I'm getting angrier. Come on Lucy, either break it off for good or get back together. That hot and cold is tiring
Please Lucy forgive Kate. She love you too. ❤️❤️❤️
I appreciate the show giving Lucy time to process and knowing her worth! It is starting to feel like the narrative is going in circles bc Kate has not explained herself atp, but I’m glad they didn’t gloss over her cheating. I don’t think Kate is malicious, I just think she’s horrible at communicating and playing things close to her chest comes off as selfish.
I imagine a lot of it is Kate’s own past as DIA, losing her brother, etc, she seems to have problems letting ppl in. She was very mean girl, closed-off, hot & cold with Lucy at the start of the show. I enjoy the growth that she is slowly changing and opening up from that, but it won’t happen all at once.
I think the biggest thing for Lucy this ep was finding out Kate kept ANOTHER secret from her. We already know Lucy values openness, that it’s a need she put aside to be with Whistler at the pace Whistler was comfortable with, & that it bit her in the ass when she found out Whistler had a whole girlfriend she never mentioned.
So yet another secret after Whistler finally apologized for the first hit hard. She was offered a promotion, weighed it, ultimately declined it, but for Lucy hearing this from a stranger for the first time?? Prolly felt like another betrayal. What if Kate had decided to take the promotion?? Lucy would’ve been blindsided, in love with a woman who left and didn’t even tell her that her leaving was a possibility. All this after almost losing Whistler and almost being killed herself. She’s got a lot to process! I hope reconciliation happens by the end of the season, but I don’t blame her for any of her reactions.
I do wish the show would give us some Kate scenes of what Kate is thinking thru all this, what the hell she was thinking w the cara situation, what that entire situation actually entailed (how involved was she w cara once she and Lucy started dating?? We know in the rock’n’bowl scene where she snapped at Lucy that that was probably cara on the phone so clearly she had been communicating w her the entire time?? Which makes the betrayal worse?? Explain urself Kate Whistler! But given her billing, I don’t think we will find much out about that.
Idk how we’ll get from this point to reconciliation but am still hopeful that’s the goal, bc 12 eps for a breakup of a relationship that lasted 4-5 eps makes no narrative sense.
oh my, why is it that when it seems everything is going to be okay with Lucy and Kate, something comes up. i believe this Lucy’s feeling betrayed is dragging already. it’s about time they get back together again or just, move on as Ernie has “suggested” before. but i would love to see them together
Whistler just hanging around Lucy’s desk like a nerd.
🤣🤣 cute nerd
Listen it’s never straight forward 😉otherwise why would we watch it, we love the angst and drama right.
can't hold back the tears my heart hurts 😭
Ah not the some girl at the end 😩🤣 I want Kate and Lucy to get together already
OMG just look at Kate's face...she looks like sad puppy with broken heart. I'm just annoyed by Lucy's behaviour at this point. Like I basiclly think that whole case with Kara was just one big misunderstanding and Lucy made it look like something trully unforgivable. Now she's the one who broke Kate's heart many times. Writer making it so dirty rn that it's hard to watch...
I hope that Lucy let Kate explain herself....and a big NOOO...to that other women 🙂
De lo que si estoy segura, que si estas dos no arregla las cosas, definitivamente dejo de ver la serie
Ok Random theory here: Kate was offered position, turns it down and tell Cara so she knows she's not coming back. Cara tells her she's coming to Hawaii to talk. Kate planned to tell Lucy after talking to Cara since it was a immediate change for her and Cara but Lucy went to the door and found out
That's proper to the story, I'll follow this one for my own sake! 👌
Makes total sense! 👌
But Kate said she didn't know Cara was coming.
@@cattypurry8023 she didn't know for long but that day when they were having breakfast, she received a text. It was surely from Cara.
@@onm9957 True, but she didn't know until she arrived, and was surprised by Cara showing up. After all, it had been over a year since they were physically together. She never expected Cara to come to Hawaii.
Whistler!!!!! Say something, don't let her walk away!!!! Tell her that you're in love with her and that's she everything!!!! Tell her you won't stop until she realizes you are the one!!!!
Poor thing got her bell rung earlier in the day! Maybe she’s slower on the uptake because she’s concussed!
I want to see Kate and Lucy back together very soon 🤔🤔🤔
They should be ‘horizontal’ together 😂✌🏼
😂😂😂
I loved Kacy but at this point Kate seems like she’s the only one growing and actually dealing with her emotional issues. Lucy’s just running scared and making Kate pay over and over again while she gets to start dating someone else. She’s not even mature enough to give Kate the respect of hearing her out. I’m Team Kate and until Lucy grows up I hope they give Kate a better love interest and more screen time with a love interest and more Tenstler screen time.
I would really like for the writers to bring Kate and Lucy together
That is unfair. Kate did lie.to Lucy and was too guarded, but both are changing and they are back in season 1 last epi.
I love Lucy, but I'm siding towards Kate. Yes she it was her fault, but Kate is trying and giving Lucy the space she needs. But Lucy needs to realize she's not the only one hurting.
I love this Channel. Thank you.
Thank you ♥️
I sure hope as hell dat Lucy didn't just choose to surf the "some girl" wave coz dat ryt there will break my lil heart into pieces fr!
OMG!!!!!!! 😱😱😱😱SE LO DIJO SE LO DIJO SE LO DIJOOOOOOO, Grita y se desmaya... 😍😍😍😍
Que le dijo? 😔😔😔
@@flormariamendozarengifo7541 en resumen, le preguntó si era cierto que había rechazado la promoción en DC y Kate se lo confirmó, Lucy le preguntó que porque no se lo dijo y Kate le contestó que iba hacerlo pero fue cuando pasó todo el despapaye de la ex tons Lucy le dijo que ya no iba a dejar que la siguiera lastimando que porque arruinaba todo, que tenían algo especial y que rompió su corazón en un millón de pedazos😭😭 porque la amaba💔 y Lucy de plano se cerró y ya no dejó que Kate le dijera nada más 😔😔
@@aglaemoya4849 Mil gracias 😪😪que triste que con tanto amor sea mas importante el orgullo
Esperemos que wisler la vuelva a conquistar🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@flormariamendozarengifo7541 esa es la esperanza 🤞🏼🙏 y es lo último que muere 😊