@MosesIsrael-e6r Whites use more drugs and overdose at 8xs the rate of blacks. Blacks are policed differently. Need proof? 56% of the exonerated are black and we are only 13% of the population.
While attending a New York university during the 90s, I experienced first hand their disdain of Foundational Black Americans. In addition, they made it a point to delineate themselves from us. Initially, I was caught of guard because I subscribed to flat Blackness. This was my first mistake and an eye opener concerning their jealously and disrespect of FBAs. From Puerto Ricans to Caribbeans, FBAs constantly lived in their dreams. Don’t get me wrong, a few were allies, but the vast majority wanted nothing to do with FBAs. Fortunately, I was usually considered to be a Dominican, so I was able to infiltrate their conversations and take notes. Colon epitomes the true meaning of a culture vulture. He’s not a Hip Hop scholar, nor does he represent the culture in any capacity.
@@DAndreCalloway is why you blocked me because y'all fascist thinking nobody ever finna call you out but other Nations and Cultures are paying close attention bc y'all safe White man protects y'all is why y'all so disrespectful 💯
I have to say this..Although alot of our music comes from Down South, from what I heard and read from our old heads is that NYC has been partying and calling shots in music. Let's not forget the Apollo or Bepop Jazz, right here in Harlem. So, it should not be a surprise that we came with hip hop. NYC is a party city, even now. It's cool to dance. I've been other places, and although yall do Hip Hop, the is a party culture behind it, yall don't do. I'm FBA. I read Duke Ellington say, that he would goto a tenement building in Harlem and each house had a party going on, this was in the 40's! Fuck what the Puerto Ricans is talking about. But, don't try to take Hip Hop culture and spread it to everyone in the USA, cause that's not really TRUTH. It's NY FBA all day. Colon don't know WTF he talking about, cause we still are partying NOW, RIGHT NOW. They closed down our clubs, we rent venues...NOTHING is gonaa stop our Party culture. It's not just the music. It's the clothes, the dress, it's the slang...It's a life style, it's anight life..The city that never sleeps..Cause we are somewhere..After hour spot. This Puerto Ricans didn't even have style. We you to say that to each other if you did not match, "You look like a pueto rican" Now, all of a sudden, they had something to do with Hip Hop. Truth is, the BX did not invent DJing. It came out of FBA Brooklyn and Queens. That's why we always sold the most records than ANY BOROUGH. It was our way of LIFE. You cannot name one Hip Hop clothing item that came from outside NYC...Nike, Adidas, Puma ALL came out of NYC. Even now! Balenciaga and all that other shit. Yall our FBA brothers and cousins, but never say Hip Hop comes from outside NYC cause that's LIES! These dudes cannot come amongst us in our club scene. Only one or two of the Black Looking Puerto Ricans.. Not this BS Mfers. What yall should of asked them is, What clubs are you in NOW. He would not know. Hip Hop is FBA culture of NYC going back to the 20's
Colon also wanted to interview me, cuz he knows that I was 'there' and know these Pioneers! I would be a damn fool, to give him my facts and knowledge of it, so he can twist my words or edit out what I say, then turn around and use my info acting as if he knew those things, all along! He has been known to do all of those things, when the truth doesn't fit his narrative!
this narrative is a disrespect to the funk bands, soul bands, rhythm bands, and motown bands, especially James brown, so we don't need nobody's help creating music every music we created is by ourselves, wow such disrespectful words coming out of his mouth, foundational black Americans creation 100% we also created rap and hip-hop and the five elements.
James Brown originally started as a Rock n Roll artist which is inspired by BLUES not Jazz so his whole Jazz back story was irrelevant. He just switched to Soul when the other people made Rock corny and changed the sound.
@@robluv4592 Why y'all still won't answer me about all those Hispanic gangs that was starting fires in the Bronx back when hip-hop was being created that killed many blk women, men & kids tho don't sound like no 50/50 unity to me
37:29 this Third World, Mexican, immigrant from Puerto Rico really said Latinos inspired James Brown. There’s hardly any Latino Mexicans in Georgia today. Let alone 1940. 😂
Here's with Colon . He doesn't stick to strictly Puerto Ricans influences. He's all over the place. One minute he's talking about Cubans the next it's Jamaicans and then it's Africans. He can't stick to what his people have done. I have no problem with other groups in hip-hop, but it's a problem when the misinformation starts.
They need to stop with the history lesson about Puerto Ricans! Most of them like to say that they are 'Taino ', but when the Hip Hop conversation comes up ..... they say they are Black! Meanwhile, we know that they also have European ancestry, hence the color of some of their skin tone!
@salsero3982 Colorism is worldwide! It occurs within the Asian community, the Caribbean community , the Latin community, etc, etc.....and don't forget the Puerto Rican community!
Colon is a liar most of the words he speaks are not historically documented. All of FBAs music has a history. As I said before fat Joe was born 1970, Colon was born 1968. Rhymes wasn't born when HH was created, do the math of their age.
@@DAndreCalloway Man, you're spot on. I've noticed this stuff in hip-hop. For example, look at Royce da 5'9" in Detroit. As talented as Royce is he rather play 2nd fiddle to Eminem and imo Royce is better than Eminem . He just never got the backing and resources from the higher-ups. Derrick Colon has no credibility. Dude dismisses some of the pioneers that don't agree with his narrative. He's also be caught choppin up footage to fit his narrative.
Foundational Black Americans created all the genre's that have become mainstream in the last 140 yrs. This includes The Blues, Country, Gospel, Jazz & Ragtime, Rock & Roll, R & B, Soul, Funk, Disco and Hip Hop by ourselves.
These people needs to STOP! They haven’t mentioned one name in terms of a Puerto Rican individual being a founder of a portion of Hip Hop. PLEASE SIT DOWN! 🪑
He is not a hip hop founder he is not anyone of importance to anything Black Americans culture which is hip hop rap jazz funk r&b rock n roll I mean hell if you name a genre it is our culture the problem is we have allowed them to come into our communities and amongst us and we welcomed them in only for them to try and take our culture and make their own we are being destroyed from within!
A lot of Puerto Ricans keep saying that Tariq Nasheed was not ' there' so he cant speak on Hip Hop , but Colon wasn't there either! The only "go- to" that these liars have, is living in The Bronx! Colon was not at one of these jams, and only knows some of the people in Hip Hop, because he needed to learn about it himself!!
I was at alot of the jams from !977 on up alot of hispanics were participating in hiphop.Alot of black hispanics helped create hiphop from 1972 on up.Most people did not find out about hiphop till 1976,it was a underground scene before that.
@@chinablack9790 Hey china doll i already said on another video,Tex,dancing doug,and dj smoke are the ones i know about,so stop lying on the prs,they was kool with us in the south bronx in the 1980s.
@AlleKat First off, DO NOT CALL ME CHINA DOLL! Tex was with Mario, and breakdancing was not started in The Bronx! Black Americans have been doing it for DECADES! There are plenty of videos on youtube for you to see as proof! Iam Bronx born and raised! Yall are the ones lying about Black Americans and Puerto Ricans ALL, or even ALWAYS being cool with each other! Some of the gangs are proof of that!!! You are talking about the ' Hip Hop ' scene in the 80s!!! You definitely have NO KNOWLEDGE about the relationship between ALL BLACK AMERICANS AND PUERTO RICANS STARTING IN THE 60S/ EARLY 70S( WHEN HIP HOP STARTED) THROUGHOUT THE BRONX! Of course if you are into Hip Hop BY THE 80S , you will see both at the party, IN THE 80S, if they are both into Hip Hop. BUT LIKE I SAID, BLACK AMERICANS AND PUERTO RICANS ARE NOT AND HAVE NOT ALWAYS BEEN COOL WITH EACH OTHER....SO STOP YOUR LYING!!! BRINGING IT BACK BEFORE HIP HOP, AND EVEN NOW!
FBA Hip Hop culture haters over the decades are in dire strait. From so-called ghetto music to the 2024 Olympics. I have had Puerto Rican friends all my life. Back in the 1990's, I would attend the Puerto Rican day parades with them. The younger Puerto Ricans were cool with Hip Hop. The older Puerto Ricans in their families would call Hip Hop ghetto music. They would attack younger Puerto Ricans even for wearing FBA style hair cuts. Blocks and fades back in the 1990's. I even saw younger Puerto Ricans getting attacked for wearing Malcolm X shirts. The older Puerto Ricans would also boo at the Puerto Rican day parade trucks that were playing Hip Hip music. When Tariq's film hits the theater, it's going to put people in their place. If they're going that crazy over a two minute trailer, wait until the two hour film drops. Any FBA who grew up in the 1980's, 1990's and were around the Puerto Ricans will tell you that the older peoples in their families, always wanted to keep a distance from FBA people, music and culture. The younger Puerto Rican would rock with us.. The younger Puerto Rican would tell us how their older family members were.
@@DAndreCalloway Thanks for this video. Many things from FBA's have been taken or someone tried erase from history. They thought FBA's were going to take erasing us from Hip Hop laying down. They were dead wrong. Tariq's film isn't going to have receipts, he's going to have notarized invoices. 😁
Hopefully HipHop Will now Changed That. Everybody has been a particapent that isnt Blk But the ones who rode with you in the begining Were them NyRicanz out of all us latinos. But one knows a Culture By The language Food Art Dance Fasion..... None Of this Is Peruvian.... We have our own Culture Which Is Native Indians Not The culture of Spain......
Man im Puerto Rican and we didn't invent no hip hop.i dont know why they being culture vultures smh embarrassing.and thats the Ny Ricans us Ricans from the island the true Ricans we proud of our culture.this are the White Ricans,i consider myself from the black side of Ricans since my dad is a Black Puerto Rican and my mom is white skinned.Brother not all Puerto Ricans are the same dont say thats how they be thinking.cause in 1980 when we came here blacks treated Puerto Ricans like crap in New Jersey and were very disrespectful to our people.im not gonna say they all bad cause that would be ignorant.Black people have opened the doors and supported everyone non white, expecting for those groups to unify with them to fight this oppressors but they turned on them and sided with the enemy.i see how Hispanics are with black people and is wrong.im glad black people are waking up and defending there culture "Bravo".But one thing i can say to black people Ricans are the people that stick with ya out of everyone.God Bless our people in both sides.
Man you are lying they will not stick with us never have and never will there are no matches where they matched with us fought with us stood by us all they ever did was copy us everything we did they went and created their own version of it instead of respecting our culture like we allow them to have theirs! Nobody will stand with us we are all we have I can show you Latino after Latino that hate us and even the darker skin Ricins don’t even love themselves let alone be willing to stand with us you can’t name ONE THING THAT THEY EVER STOOD WITH US ON LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WITH OUR CULTURE AND IF YOU CALL THAT STANDING WITH US SOME ODY GOT TO BE OUT OF THEIR MINDS! THIS RACIST COLON AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF LATINOS ARE JUST THAT RACIST TO US AND HATE THEMSELVES SO IF THEY DONT EVEN LOVE THEMSELVES HOW THEY HELL CAN THEY STICK WITH US AND SHOW ME WHEN AND WHERE THAT THEY EVER STOOD WITH US!
@@mr.jabbar6443 but FBA’s need help reading, doing math, keeping a job, taking care of your kids, not being on drugs or drunk. So yall FBA’s can keep dancing and wearing nice clothes. Real drug addict behavior.
My family told me years ago Puerto ricans did not deal with Black people they thought they were above wouldn't be caught dead with us fact so a hard no they did not create hip hop
Alot of blacks were racist as well towards Puerto Ricans so let’s cut the bullshit victim nonsense. I’m born and raised in nyc and I don’t hear about any damm Puerto complaining about hip hop. Maybe people in the industry or who want to be in the industry are complaining but that has nothing to do with the rest of Puerto Ricans.
Harlems center for research in black culture is named after a Puerto Rican. Literally hundreds of millions more black latinos than black Americans.. travel , learn and get rid of that simple minded thinking.. youre only holding yourself back
@@Sowhat-b7estraight up this shit is crazy I'm from across the bridge in jersey and born raised with black people and don't here any of this shit myself my hood is black and latinos ant no beefs with this vaya mi hermano para lante 🇵🇷🇵🇷💯🇵🇷🇵🇷
@@DAndreCalloway Now ask that same Question! What is Hip Hop Without Latin America? And there is your Answer!!!! Why? Bc one can clearly exist without the other!!!!
Whenever I hear Lietino's saying it was 50/50 or they helped create the "Culture" I just ask em, what part of Hip Hop is Lietino "Culture" they never seem to have an "Answer" and that's all the proof I need they had nothing to do with it...smh
7:00 mark. Them not having their stuff together is Our FBA Ancestors at work disrupting their "incorrect information" that they are about to spew out of their mouths.
THEY MISTAKE WAS NOT WAITING UNTIL MY GENERATION WAS GONE .😂😂 MOST OF US THAT PARTYED IN THE 70s80s 90S. I WAS THERE !!!. ARE STILL HERE PRs JAMAICANS, MEXICANS, ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF FBA1. HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CREATING RAP OR HIP HOP FUNK NOTHING DUMMYS A LOT OF US ARE STILL HERE. WE CAN DISPUTE AND DISPROVE ANYTHING LIETINOS AND NON DEODORANT WARING JAMAICANS SAY. BACK THEN JAMAICANS DIDN'T WARE DEODORANT AND PRs HAD SWASTIKAS ON THE JACKETS THEY WORE!!! AND DAM SURE COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH HOW DID THEY CREATE OUR SHIT WHEN FBA COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YALL WAS SAYING. HOW CAN YOU MC A PARTY!!??? STAY OUT OF BLACK PEOPLE BIZZ. WE GONNA START GATE KEEPING EVERYTHING FBA FROM YALL MIMICS OF BLACK CULTURE AND THE MEXICANS THAT'S JUST HILARIOUS 😂😂😂. WE DONT LIKE SOMBREROS OR MARICHI BANDS.😂 PRs AND JAMAICANS CORNEY ASS CLOTHING BACK THEN. WE LIKED TO PUT ON DEODORANT AND COLOGNE BE FRESH DRESS BACK THEN. BACK THEN JAMAICANS STANK THEY TALKING ABOUT SOME NATURAL MAN BS.SO BUSTA THANK FBA FOR TEACHING YALL HYGIENE. FAT F JOE CUBANS VOTED TRUMP ALL YALL LIETINOS ARE S THE SAME UNTIL WE HERE YALL SPEAK UP TO YOUR PEOPLE ABOUT YALL LIES! ALL OF U WERE!!! GUEST IN FBA CULTURE. GET TO STEPPIN YALL NOT WELCOME NO MORE.
I wasn’t there when YT people claimed to discover America but I ain’t stupid enough to fall for it either, hip hop, rap, breaking etc would have had a Spanish original creative name if it was theirs
Wow this dude Colon is delusional! James Browns started out singing Gospel. He started out singing in a Gospel Quartet. His greatest influence was Black Preachers.
Hip hop was created by Black people to try to strip its origins is ANTI-BLACK. No one other than Black people created all the elements of Hip-Hop what others add is not creation it’s expansion
@@prayerworks6598 Actually, he was born in North Augusta/Aiken, SC. That’s literally like crossing the bridge from Elizabeth, NJ into Staten Island, NY.
Augusta native here. James Brown was born in Barnwell sc. (50 minutes south of Augusta.) Moved to and grew up in Augusta Georgia as a child. As an adult he lived in Beech Island, sc which is right over the bridge from Augusta ga.
Thank You for your video! We need 10s of millions of guys like you ( and Tariq Nasheed) to make aware of and/or correct this hip hop issue and to also look at the Bigger issue we're facing other than hip hop! From 44:48 - to the end of your video, I agree 💯% about what you said!! I truly pray that this hip hop issue rest and become finalized that WE( native black americans) created hip hop!! For the life of me, I do not understand why Dr. Colon is going on deep into nothing about this! In many videos i see him in, I notice he always go in deep into the stratosphere where there's nothing to find regarding Latinos being a part of creating hip hop. Nothing! He want this be this way so badly because Latinos "contributed" in part during no later than the late 70s/ early 80s. This is pretty much when their contribution started🤷♀️! Although I am not from the Bronx, I am from NYC/NJ metro area and in my 50s and I am a distant witness that during the 70s, I CLEARLY remember do Not seeing, hearing much involvement of Latinos creating or being involved in early hip-hop! Like the quote from Mark Twain states: "A lie can travel around the world, while the truth is still putting on his shoes!" This is what is happening now.
DIZZY DON'T AGREE HE WAS NO AFRICAN. BLACK MEN DIDN'T TALK LIKE THAT THEN. 🤣 HE IS A PROVEN LIAR WE BROUGHT JAZZ TO CUBA LOOK IT UP. HE TRYNA ACT LIKE THEY HAD JAZZ IN THEIR OWN.
Youre the first channel I see to make the connection between the mass immigration raplacement in our neighborhoods and the narrative they are pushing about origins of hip hop - i have thought the same thing, and it comes down to making money in 20 years, "THIS IS YOUR MUSIC TOO, PRS ARE CO CREATORS" -- you were on it 6 months ago even
The whole world knows HIPHOP ROOTS IS BLK NY CULTURE and its Tools Come From Everywhere Like the music Not the slane Or the fasion Or the other Elements. Phily has its Own movement There are pictures where graffiti is on walls in 1963 So to say ny Copied philly No way It was the gangs That started the tagging Look up new york gangs. They even rocked and dance to soul music as early as 73
Respect to this topic!! Just want to point out that Roberto Clemente' came from Puerto Rico who played major league baseball for Pittsburgh Pirates was treated like a so call Negro because his skin complexion was dark brown. He was not excepted by the so call black ppl in the states and damn sure not from the so called whyte ppl.
There is no evidence to support the claim you made but you are welcome to keep up the false narrative. Clemente spent most of his time on the baseball team playing 160* games and he spent the offseason in Puerto Rico and Latin America. He rarely interacted with black Americans besides a few players on the team.
I don’t know what Puerto Ricans you guys are talking because out here in NY ain’t no one talking about this topic. Maybe Puerto Ricans that are involved in music are complaining because the rest of us ain’t thinking about this bullshit. We have other things to worry about. Trust me Puerto Ricans ain’t claiming hip hop.
How come they aren’t the majority in hip hop or what are they creating today cause all I see is black Americans creating and everyone else following and I mean everybody…
If your Afro-Cuban or Puerto Rican, do you not posses African in you? The problem lies in whether or not, you consider yourself African. Am I right or wrong?!?
Bx n az … it’s sad we blks have to do this in such short time history has to be checked im born. Raised the Bronx my Cuzzo lived n fat joes building and trust fat joe knows he’s lying in fact fat joes 1 st demo he got his damn deal was done @ jazzyjays studio which was all blk hmm why he ain’t record it with sum latins hmmm my dj in the mid 80s was pr and he got mad heat for doing Moreno music as it was called by Latinos In The 80s and 90s also they were tryna stop rap by house music hmmm go back to the early 90s most rappers had to have at least 1 hip house record on there album.. kid capri nice n smooth slick rick camp lo rock steady breakers nyc breakers is from my hood in the bx .. i grew up n. Rap been around mad rappers DJs
This is sick...this dude is talking about the growth of James Brown...James was him before he was him...before we heard of him. There was no influence out side of his environment.
How you gonna believe him over the pioneers who we're there ? He talking about he was there and saw everthing going on in the streets . Just because your from the bronx doesnt mean you were in the mix . Sounds just like everyone martched with Dr king because they were around in the 60ies . Wasnt he 8 years old at the time talking like he was in the mix at teen parties with black people who his culture did not want their kids even around our culture at the time . Give credit where credit is due .... I knew they were gonna pull this in the 80 ies the stealing of Hip Hop just like Rock N Roll when it blew up .
Let me tell you how sick this is...Now i see why they saying hes anti black. To say that the drums used in the breaks was played by latinos is why he feels they helped create hip hop is crazy. Thats no different then saying Chinese created turn tables so they created hip hop. How we used these sounds and equipment within our culture is what created hip hop. See, hes missing the mark bad. The culture created hip hop the environment. We werent listening to latino songs. So who cares who james hired to play the drums and where he was from. What are you talking about...the only reason we knew it was because our parents listen to james...thats all we knew. So how could something we didnt even know about influence us to do anything. This is crszy and yhall letting him get away with it.
FBA must now create their own non-U.S-Based labels and Non-U.S-based Distribution channels, leave the U.S and continue being the creator's people and doing great things in parts of the world where people understand this about us.
@@DAndreCalloway Yup. America is inherently anti-black. As soon as we get out of here, the creator will punish it. They know this and it is why they dont want us leaving the U.S.
FUBU---Hip Hop was created for us ,by us because it spoke to the conditions that the FBA family could relate to in this country.Hip Hop is now watered down, diluted and polluted.
SEE! That's the whole argument against yall, and the reason why he blocked me. Just because yall from outside of NYC, he's trying to pull rank. He can't do that to me. They HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Hip Hop accept copy. Just like everyone else did and do. The fact is, we still do it. He's Trolling at this point!
Jazz is a music genre like hip-hop that takes elements from other cultures that did not originate in FPA America, such as Caribbean, European and African elements all other forms of FPA created music are all considered derivatives of European music that’s what separates those other genres from jazz. simply taking elements from another piece of music, such as a rhythm that does not belong to any single genre does not mean that the creation comes from its ingredients that similar to saying that the man who invented the sandwich could not have invented the sandwich, considering he didn’t invent any of the ingredients, or any author of a book cannot claim ownership of the book, since they did not invent the words in the dictionary, nor the ideas, phrases and articles that may be used in the book. This is why the argument that hip-hop is the evolution of brake selection from old record is an argument, especially considering that some of the records use the early days. . This is why the argument that hip-hop is the evolution of brake selection from older record is a week argument, especially considering that some of the records use the early days such as the sample from jump on it were not of African-American music. Because the drummer was actually Bohemian. I’ve heard the same drum rhythms on Mexican ballad music from back in the 60s. That funk break poly rhythm that is in the James Brown funky drummer track is the definitive factor of rhythm that you can hear modern day, hip-hop production, which is not bound by melodic structures as it’s only the rhythm that is carried over into the production, which means you cannot say that is strictly, a product of jazz, blues, funk, etc. which are defined by melodic structures not rhythms. We never defined all those African-American genres by their rhythms, that is something that only started when hip-hop Reggaeton Neo, Dancehall house and techno became popular. Each one of those genres are either separated by their drum selection, or rhythmic patterns, not their melodic structures, as opposed to the blues and R&B, which have clear, harmonic and melodic elements that are integral to defining the genre. I can put trap drums over meringue music for example and it’ll still be hip-hop. Therefore, we have to give cool her credit for creating something new out of something old because us as producers are copying his brake selection we are not simply copying a full record. Some of those records, such as the funky drummer record, have many rhythms that change the whole feel of the track from moment to moment. Capra is a Latino Afro invention, and it came out of Brazil and that is the main anatomical movement component of breakdancing. Cornbread is not from New York and did not inspire any New York graffiti artist. Therefore, he is not the father of hip-hop graffiti it is Julio and Julio was a Puerto Rican, who was doing graffiti back in the 60s. It’s interesting how Tariq Nashid goes all the way to a whole Nother city that has nothing to do with the movement that was going to be here without cornbread seems to me like it was more about him being fba. DJ was invented by white people as they were the first party radio and even operating DJ considering Thomas Addison was its inventor. Wrapping could be observed as far as West Africa meaning you cannot claim one single person created wrapping because it’s a vocal skill and nobody invented singing. I say that to say this, just because you did not invent any of the elements does not mean that you cannot be a part of the cultivation of a culture which is what we mean when we say create or help create and that has solely to do with the local population it is 100% proximity and participation based it has nothing to do with where the elements come from . Everybody knows why people did not help cultivate hip-hop in the early days. Insignificant numbers at the very least, that’s why you don’t see them included in these kinds of topics despite the fact they created one of the main elements. All Tariq Nash arguments are weak, and they can easily be deconstructed and proven wrong.
@@DAndreCalloway how come Puerto Ricans sample James Brow instead of Tito Frente or Willie Colon? They fresh from the Island but wanna sample James Brown lol?
@@andrewebb3283 kool herc is black that wasnt the point of my comment though it was to disprove what tariq is claiming. Black doesnt mean FBA. and wats funny is that 100 percent of all the facts fba beleavers present NEVER HELP YPUR ARGUNMENT NEBER> make one about dj culture show me a video that proves the creator isnt white. how about capoera ... prove to me that is not latino. instead of making statement and showing pointless videos mabe try PROVING your point. no one said it isnt black we said afro carribeans created it and puerto ricans helped cultivate it.
He made it Universal Letting everyone in and being part of HipHop Culture Univesal Zulu Nation. But now today Every country has its own HipHop. Yes once again Hip Hop is A Blk NyCulture Becouse thats where it was formed. And spreaded all over the usa. The music is soul The dances are soul The language is Blk amercian street ny slang And the fasion Is Blk to the bone out of new york. Back in the early 80s Mad cities hatted on ny And when they did that they Ragged on the Culture. Everyone that moves to ny Converts to a new Yorker..... End of story. South America Thanks you For Hip Hop. Now we have our own Latin HipHop But we give you the credit becouse it comes from you's Soul Train Is where we all saw the begining
Wrong here's why, you don't copy people you think you're better than. You cosplay and copy people you feel inferior to. Get it? Freedom Blacks drive American Culture which influences World Culture. And Puerto Ricans & Caribbeans know this. They know the number #1 money making Blk Music culture in the World is FBA not Caribbean or Latino. This is why they're upset with Tariq.
8 yrs old being in the streets of ny in 1970 through 75 you had to be in a gang if you was eight yrs old 13 and up yes But 8 No way...... No adult wanted to be near you Specially at night. Serious trouble.
YA'LL LATINOS WAS JUST LIKE TONY MONTANA STRAIGHT OUT OF A CONCENTRATION CAMP, A POLITICAL PRISONER. YA'LL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HIP HOP WAS UNTIL YOU MET FRANK.
They just affirming early involvement, not hijacking it's history. *There's probably some kernels of truth to Latino contribution* with the demographics of Bronx. You had Carlos Mendez, Charlie Chase...however FBA in origins. *Facts that can't be obfuscated in FBA founding on all components of hip hop. This stuff is timestamped and recorded* 1 Herc never said he transplanted hip hop from his homeland of Jamaica to NY. In fact, the opposite was said on a 1989 recorded interview. He notes that people weren't feeling his native music at the time, so funk and soul was played...and James Brown was the main one. 2 Ken Swift and Crazy Legs both allude to the African American origins of the dance. Legs says in like the latter 70s, they would call it that Morano style whenever the moves from early 70s Zulu Kings was noticed (encapsulated in FrostyFreeze). Morano denotes black and original in this context. He says this is the original style (tho played out by the latter 70s - very very early 80s). Puerto Rican youth added much to that. The earliest b-boy crew people can recall by name and memory has consistantly been the Zulu Kings (circa 1973) in interviews over time. The b-boys were African American youth at the time like Sasa, Trixie, PeeWee Dance, CharlieRock, N....Twins, Beaver, Lil Boy Keith and more 3 In a interview circa 1984, Mele Mel was asked where do you guys get names like Grand Master Flash. Long before Ytb and Internet, Mel tells us...we were influenced by people like Grand Master Flowers (African American) of 60s Brooklyn. Keep in mind that Flowers opened up for James Brown in 1968 at Yankee Stadium in Bronx, NY. 4 Coke la Rock (African American), the first rapper and best friend of Kool Herc, going back to the 1960s (middle school). He says that it wasn't a music genre back then, but it's just the way he talked when on the mic giving announcements...and the people loved it. This is a very important detail because specifically African American announcers and performers have always rhyme talked to beats in this mann
Caribbean people migrated to US since the 50s. What are we talking about here? And your mixing Mexicans to caribbean hispanic people. We got to do better here
We don't think we better than anyone especially our African American brothers and sisters, you shouldn't be talking because you wasn't there and the people who where there where Puerto Ricans and FBA's , actually if you check the census it was 1/3 black and 2/3 Puerto Ricans at the time late '60s The Young Lords and the Black Panthers were helping each other in their struggles, you know why because we all had the same enemy in common, poverty and the government and for your information we are very in tune with our African ancestry but we don't think we're white you must be talking about some other Latin country, stop the hate your lies will only go so far....peace....BX194..💯
I dont where that came from we want to be white i dont even have white friends lol And im a light skin Rican..😂 This is crazy.Maybe out side of inner cities Hmmmmmmmmm
You wrong Brother Puerto Rican Acknowledged there Blackness it’s all in our music. Ain’t you from Detroit. Cause I’m from the South Bronx. What do you know about Hip Hop. We not other people. Stop the division we are one Black and Brown.
Foundational Black America✊🏾😤WE ARE THE CULTURE
Facts
They really thought they had this sowed up. Now look at them, punching air. 😂😂 We are not allowing the bull shit. #FBA
Who’s Big Shirley?
Yep. Drug and jail culture.
@MosesIsrael-e6r Whites use more drugs and overdose at 8xs the rate of blacks. Blacks are policed differently. Need proof? 56% of the exonerated are black and we are only 13% of the population.
While attending a New York university during the 90s, I experienced first hand their disdain of Foundational Black Americans. In addition, they made it a point to delineate themselves from us. Initially, I was caught of guard because I subscribed to flat Blackness. This was my first mistake and an eye opener concerning their jealously and disrespect of FBAs. From Puerto Ricans to Caribbeans, FBAs constantly lived in their dreams. Don’t get me wrong, a few were allies, but the vast majority wanted nothing to do with FBAs. Fortunately, I was usually considered to be a Dominican, so I was able to infiltrate their conversations and take notes.
Colon epitomes the true meaning of a culture vulture. He’s not a Hip Hop scholar, nor does he represent the culture in any capacity.
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@@DAndreCalloway is why you blocked me because y'all fascist thinking nobody ever finna call you out but other Nations and Cultures are paying close attention bc y'all safe White man protects y'all is why y'all so disrespectful 💯
Its all envy on their part .. in my experience .. they aren't racist .. its just flat out hater shid.. and swag envy..
I have to say this..Although alot of our music comes from Down South, from what I heard and read from our old heads is that NYC has been partying and calling shots in music. Let's not forget the Apollo or Bepop Jazz, right here in Harlem. So, it should not be a surprise that we came with hip hop. NYC is a party city, even now. It's cool to dance. I've been other places, and although yall do Hip Hop, the is a party culture behind it, yall don't do. I'm FBA. I read Duke Ellington say, that he would goto a tenement building in Harlem and each house had a party going on, this was in the 40's! Fuck what the Puerto Ricans is talking about. But, don't try to take Hip Hop culture and spread it to everyone in the USA, cause that's not really TRUTH. It's NY FBA all day. Colon don't know WTF he talking about, cause we still are partying NOW, RIGHT NOW. They closed down our clubs, we rent venues...NOTHING is gonaa stop our Party culture. It's not just the music. It's the clothes, the dress, it's the slang...It's a life style, it's anight life..The city that never sleeps..Cause we are somewhere..After hour spot. This Puerto Ricans didn't even have style. We you to say that to each other if you did not match, "You look like a pueto rican" Now, all of a sudden, they had something to do with Hip Hop. Truth is, the BX did not invent DJing. It came out of FBA Brooklyn and Queens. That's why we always sold the most records than ANY BOROUGH. It was our way of LIFE. You cannot name one Hip Hop clothing item that came from outside NYC...Nike, Adidas, Puma ALL came out of NYC. Even now! Balenciaga and all that other shit. Yall our FBA brothers and cousins, but never say Hip Hop comes from outside NYC cause that's LIES! These dudes cannot come amongst us in our club scene. Only one or two of the Black Looking Puerto Ricans.. Not this BS Mfers. What yall should of asked them is, What clubs are you in NOW. He would not know. Hip Hop is FBA culture of NYC going back to the 20's
@@GuyRBrewer109 fba fbi fascist agent begging victimhood wannabe indigenous people SMH
B1 BLACK FBA Revolution Sovereignty👑 ⚔️🔥
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Colon also wanted to interview me, cuz he knows that I was 'there' and know these Pioneers! I would be a damn fool, to give him my facts and knowledge of it, so he can twist my words or edit out what I say, then turn around and use my info acting as if he knew those things, all along! He has been known to do all of those things, when the truth doesn't fit his narrative!
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He had no idea who the Mercedes Ladies were until I told him. Then he claims he knew them all alone
That dude is a pathological liar
this narrative is a disrespect to the funk bands, soul bands, rhythm bands, and motown bands, especially James brown, so we don't need nobody's help creating music every music we created is by ourselves, wow such disrespectful words coming out of his mouth, foundational black Americans creation 100% we also created rap and hip-hop and the five elements.
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James Brown originally started as a Rock n Roll artist which is inspired by BLUES not Jazz so his whole Jazz back story was irrelevant. He just switched to Soul when the other people made Rock corny and changed the sound.
All that u said is black music just not hip hop
@@robluv4592 lol
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Why y'all still won't answer me about all those Hispanic gangs that was
starting fires in the Bronx back when hip-hop was being created
that killed many blk women, men & kids tho
don't sound like no 50/50 unity to me
37:29 this Third World, Mexican, immigrant from Puerto Rico really said Latinos inspired James Brown. There’s hardly any Latino Mexicans in Georgia today. Let alone 1940. 😂
Facts
Exactly the only major Latinos were Puerto Ricans because their citizens and Mexicans because it’s close to the U.S
Keep Georgia that way!!!! If they come there it will only cause racism
That is some Blasphemous B.S. They did not influence James Brown!! My Goodness!!
Who said Mexicans? We never said shit like that. Puerto Ricans maybe, not us. Don’t spew false info.
Here's with Colon . He doesn't stick to strictly Puerto Ricans influences. He's all over the place. One minute he's talking about Cubans the next it's Jamaicans and then it's Africans. He can't stick to what his people have done. I have no problem with other groups in hip-hop, but it's a problem when the misinformation starts.
He has been in the comments
@@DAndreCalloway I know . He saw me in your comment section and replied.
Colon was on Red Supreme TV w/ Tariq Nasheed telling major lies then back pedaling
dude a habitual line stepper😂
@@grandkhanonizegypt Yeah. I checked it out a little over a week ago. Colon is embarrassing himself.
Exactly
We as FBA must now master the art of group economics
I agree
@@Ste-jf8bs master the art of keeping a job and staying out of jail first.
They need to stop with the history lesson about Puerto Ricans! Most of them like to say that they are 'Taino ', but when the Hip Hop conversation comes up ..... they say they are Black! Meanwhile, we know that they also have European ancestry, hence the color of some of their skin tone!
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Yes but there are very light skin Black Americans and African American were racist towards their own people.
@salsero3982 Colorism is worldwide! It occurs within the Asian community, the Caribbean community , the Latin community, etc, etc.....and don't forget the Puerto Rican community!
@@salsero3982We cleared that up during the Creole days we just joke about it now
@@jayjohnson7708 still
Colon is a liar most of the words he speaks are not historically documented. All of FBAs music has a history. As I said before fat Joe was born 1970, Colon was born 1968. Rhymes wasn't born when HH was created, do the math of their age.
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First rap song wasn’t till mid to late eighties. Early DJS played DIsco music that was heavy influenced by the gay scene!
@@FRESHDON.Sugar Hill gang rappers delight 1979
They just joined in. They did not help create nothing
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@@DAndreCalloway Man, you're spot on. I've noticed this stuff in hip-hop. For example, look at Royce da 5'9" in Detroit. As talented as Royce is he rather play 2nd fiddle to Eminem and imo Royce is better than Eminem . He just never got the backing and resources from the higher-ups. Derrick Colon has no credibility. Dude dismisses some of the pioneers that don't agree with his narrative. He's also be caught choppin up footage to fit his narrative.
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Colon & other Latinos been making a 💰off these lies 4 yrs
they gone be selling oranges on the freeway when Mic Check come out 😂
Foundational Black Americans created all the genre's that have become mainstream in the last 140 yrs. This includes The Blues, Country, Gospel, Jazz & Ragtime, Rock & Roll, R & B, Soul, Funk, Disco and Hip Hop by ourselves.
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Techno House music
@@johnlucius1665 FBA’s created crack too. But yall pretend yall didnt
These people needs to STOP! They haven’t mentioned one name in terms of a Puerto Rican individual being a founder of a portion of Hip Hop. PLEASE SIT DOWN! 🪑
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@@DAndreCalloway Peace bruh! 😎✌🏾👈🏾
Dj Rodrigo UruguayaN
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the guy wit 4 followers on sound cloud
He is not a hip hop founder he is not anyone of importance to anything Black Americans culture which is hip hop rap jazz funk r&b rock n roll I mean hell if you name a genre it is our culture the problem is we have allowed them to come into our communities and amongst us and we welcomed them in only for them to try and take our culture and make their own we are being destroyed from within!
A lot of Puerto Ricans keep saying that Tariq Nasheed was not ' there' so he cant speak on Hip Hop , but Colon wasn't there either! The only "go- to" that these liars have, is living in The Bronx! Colon was not at one of these jams, and only knows some of the people in Hip Hop, because he needed to learn about it himself!!
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I was at alot of the jams from !977 on up alot of hispanics were participating in hiphop.Alot of black hispanics helped create hiphop from 1972 on up.Most people did not find out about hiphop till 1976,it was a underground scene before that.
@AlleKat If you were there in 1977, that was not the beginning!!!!!! Which 'Black Hispanics ' helped CREATE HIP HOP in 1972, like you claim????????
@@chinablack9790 Hey china doll i already said on another video,Tex,dancing doug,and dj smoke are the ones i know about,so stop lying on the prs,they was kool with us in the south bronx in the 1980s.
@AlleKat First off, DO NOT CALL ME CHINA DOLL! Tex was with Mario, and breakdancing was not started in The Bronx! Black Americans have been doing it for DECADES! There are plenty of videos on youtube for you to see as proof! Iam Bronx born and raised! Yall are the ones lying about Black Americans and Puerto Ricans ALL, or even ALWAYS being cool with each other! Some of the gangs are proof of that!!! You are talking about the ' Hip Hop ' scene in the 80s!!! You definitely have NO KNOWLEDGE about the relationship between ALL BLACK AMERICANS AND PUERTO RICANS STARTING IN THE 60S/ EARLY 70S( WHEN HIP HOP STARTED) THROUGHOUT THE BRONX! Of course if you are into Hip Hop BY THE 80S , you will see both at the party, IN THE 80S, if they are both into Hip Hop. BUT LIKE I SAID, BLACK AMERICANS AND PUERTO RICANS ARE NOT AND HAVE NOT ALWAYS BEEN COOL WITH EACH OTHER....SO STOP YOUR LYING!!! BRINGING IT BACK BEFORE HIP HOP, AND EVEN NOW!
I have always wondered about him
He’s another GEORGE LOPES that’s his true state of mind
Peace and Blessings
Peace and blessings to you
FBA Hip Hop culture haters over the decades are in dire strait. From so-called ghetto music to the 2024 Olympics.
I have had Puerto Rican friends all my life. Back in the 1990's, I would attend the Puerto Rican day parades with them. The younger Puerto Ricans were cool with Hip Hop. The older Puerto Ricans in their families would call Hip Hop ghetto music. They would attack younger Puerto Ricans even for wearing FBA style hair cuts. Blocks and fades back in the 1990's. I even saw younger Puerto Ricans getting attacked for wearing Malcolm X shirts. The older Puerto Ricans would also boo at the Puerto Rican day parade trucks that were playing Hip Hip music. When Tariq's film hits the theater, it's going to put people in their place. If they're going that crazy over a two minute trailer, wait until the two hour film drops. Any FBA who grew up in the 1980's, 1990's and were around the Puerto Ricans will tell you that the older peoples in their families, always wanted to keep a distance from FBA people, music and culture. The younger Puerto Rican would rock with us.. The younger Puerto Rican would tell us how their older family members were.
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@@DAndreCalloway Thanks for this video. Many things from FBA's have been taken or someone tried erase from history. They thought FBA's were going to take erasing us from Hip Hop laying down. They were dead wrong. Tariq's film isn't going to have receipts, he's going to have notarized invoices. 😁
Hopefully
HipHop
Will now
Changed
That.
Everybody has been a particapent that isnt Blk
But the ones who rode with you in the begining
Were them
NyRicanz out of all us latinos.
But one knows a
Culture
By
The language
Food
Art
Dance
Fasion.....
None
Of this
Is
Peruvian....
We have our own
Culture
Which
Is Native Indians
Not
The culture of
Spain......
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My pops (Pr) moved to Nyc in late 50's, dj'd and listened to hip hop
Man im Puerto Rican and we didn't invent no hip hop.i dont know why they being culture vultures smh embarrassing.and thats the Ny Ricans us Ricans from the island the true Ricans we proud of our culture.this are the White Ricans,i consider myself from the black side of Ricans since my dad is a Black Puerto Rican and my mom is white skinned.Brother not all Puerto Ricans are the same dont say thats how they be thinking.cause in 1980 when we came here blacks treated Puerto Ricans like crap in New Jersey and were very disrespectful to our people.im not gonna say they all bad cause that would be ignorant.Black people have opened the doors and supported everyone non white, expecting for those groups to unify with them to fight this oppressors but they turned on them and sided with the enemy.i see how Hispanics are with black people and is wrong.im glad black people are waking up and defending there culture "Bravo".But one thing i can say to black people Ricans are the people that stick with ya out of everyone.God Bless our people in both sides.
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Victor, thanks for your honesty brother! ✌🏾✌🏾👈🏾
stuck with blacks Until WT and the Money Started to Change their Perception
@@VirgilRelford-w3c what do you mean
Man you are lying they will not stick with us never have and never will there are no matches where they matched with us fought with us stood by us all they ever did was copy us everything we did they went and created their own version of it instead of respecting our culture like we allow them to have theirs! Nobody will stand with us we are all we have I can show you Latino after Latino that hate us and even the darker skin Ricins don’t even love themselves let alone be willing to stand with us you can’t name ONE THING THAT THEY EVER STOOD WITH US ON LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WITH OUR CULTURE AND IF YOU CALL THAT STANDING WITH US SOME ODY GOT TO BE OUT OF THEIR MINDS! THIS RACIST COLON AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF LATINOS ARE JUST THAT RACIST TO US AND HATE THEMSELVES SO IF THEY DONT EVEN LOVE THEMSELVES HOW THEY HELL CAN THEY STICK WITH US AND SHOW ME WHEN AND WHERE THAT THEY EVER STOOD WITH US!
We have never needed help with music dances and dressing fly
Exactly
We are not people of color. Colon is fos
@@mr.jabbar6443 but FBA’s need help reading, doing math, keeping a job, taking care of your kids, not being on drugs or drunk. So yall FBA’s can keep dancing and wearing nice clothes. Real drug addict behavior.
My family told me years ago Puerto ricans did not deal with Black people they thought they were above wouldn't be caught dead with us fact so a hard no they did not create hip hop
They want to beat us doing something
Alot of blacks were racist as well towards Puerto Ricans so let’s cut the bullshit victim nonsense. I’m born and raised in nyc and I don’t hear about any damm Puerto complaining about hip hop.
Maybe people in the industry or who want to be in the industry are complaining but that has nothing to do with the rest of Puerto Ricans.
That was probably the 1st generation Pr, the ones raised or born in Nyc grew up and was cool with blacks
Harlems center for research in black culture is named after a Puerto Rican. Literally hundreds of millions more black latinos than black Americans.. travel , learn and get rid of that simple minded thinking.. youre only holding yourself back
@@Sowhat-b7estraight up this shit is crazy I'm from across the bridge in jersey and born raised with black people and don't here any of this shit myself my hood is black and latinos ant no beefs with this vaya mi hermano para lante 🇵🇷🇵🇷💯🇵🇷🇵🇷
The real Question is! What is Hip Hop without Black America?
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@@DAndreCalloway Now ask that same Question! What is Hip Hop Without Latin America? And there is your Answer!!!! Why? Bc one can clearly exist without the other!!!!
@@narmar9mm Hip Hop would be what it is without "Latin America." FOH
@@nevetsnonnac3330 Exactly my point!!!!
@@narmar9mmExactly, lol
Whenever I hear Lietino's saying it was 50/50 or they helped create the "Culture" I just ask em, what part of Hip Hop is Lietino "Culture" they never seem to have an "Answer" and that's all the proof I need they had nothing to do with it...smh
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They don't think they're better.. they just jealous.
That is what I think
Motha fudga we are the culture!!! FBA👍🏾💪🏾👊🏾👋🏾✊🏾
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No black or brown alliance that's dead💯
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No they didn't, they not like us💯🖤🖤🖤🖤
Not at all
HBCUs had marching bands with drums going back to the 1870s.
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They weren’t even Participants right from the start, they came later!
Exactly
7:00 mark. Them not having their stuff together is Our FBA Ancestors at work disrupting their "incorrect information" that they are about to spew out of their mouths.
They trying to usurp
THEY MISTAKE WAS NOT WAITING UNTIL MY GENERATION WAS GONE .😂😂 MOST OF US THAT PARTYED IN THE 70s80s 90S. I WAS THERE !!!. ARE STILL HERE PRs JAMAICANS, MEXICANS, ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF FBA1. HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CREATING RAP OR HIP HOP FUNK NOTHING DUMMYS A LOT OF US ARE STILL HERE. WE CAN DISPUTE AND DISPROVE ANYTHING LIETINOS AND NON DEODORANT WARING JAMAICANS SAY. BACK THEN JAMAICANS DIDN'T WARE DEODORANT AND PRs HAD SWASTIKAS ON THE JACKETS THEY WORE!!! AND DAM SURE COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH
HOW DID THEY CREATE OUR SHIT WHEN FBA COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YALL WAS SAYING. HOW CAN YOU MC A PARTY!!??? STAY OUT OF BLACK PEOPLE BIZZ. WE GONNA START GATE KEEPING EVERYTHING FBA FROM YALL MIMICS OF BLACK CULTURE AND THE MEXICANS THAT'S JUST HILARIOUS 😂😂😂. WE DONT LIKE SOMBREROS OR MARICHI BANDS.😂 PRs AND JAMAICANS CORNEY ASS CLOTHING BACK THEN. WE LIKED TO PUT ON DEODORANT AND COLOGNE BE FRESH DRESS BACK THEN. BACK THEN JAMAICANS STANK THEY TALKING ABOUT SOME NATURAL MAN BS.SO BUSTA THANK FBA FOR TEACHING YALL HYGIENE. FAT F JOE CUBANS VOTED TRUMP ALL YALL LIETINOS ARE S THE SAME UNTIL WE HERE YALL SPEAK UP TO YOUR PEOPLE ABOUT YALL LIES! ALL OF U WERE!!! GUEST IN FBA CULTURE. GET TO STEPPIN YALL NOT WELCOME NO MORE.
Thanks for bringing this to light, I can't listen to anymore of this miss info
Me neither
I wasn’t there when YT people claimed to discover America but I ain’t stupid enough to fall for it either, hip hop, rap, breaking etc would have had a Spanish original creative name if it was theirs
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Sure would have
Wow this dude Colon is delusional! James Browns started out singing Gospel. He started out singing in a Gospel Quartet. His greatest influence was Black Preachers.
Right
Sweet daddy grace
we dont need yall for nothing, stop it!!!!
Who?
The conversation is not about being anti-black. It's about Hip Hop ❗️
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It's about all that!!
Hip hop was created by Black people to try to strip its origins is ANTI-BLACK. No one other than Black people created all the elements of Hip-Hop what others add is not creation it’s expansion
Correction James Brown. Is from South Carolina
AUGUSTA , GEORGIA JAMES BROWN
James Brown was born in Agusta Georgia
@@prayerworks6598
Actually, he was born in North Augusta/Aiken, SC. That’s literally like crossing the bridge from Elizabeth, NJ into Staten Island, NY.
Augusta native here. James Brown was born in Barnwell sc. (50 minutes south of Augusta.) Moved to and grew up in Augusta Georgia as a child. As an adult he lived in Beech Island, sc which is right over the bridge from Augusta ga.
Beech Island is a part of aiken County.
Great video. Tariq did a good job of removing the Cuban inspiring James Brown myth. Dr Colon was trying to push. Doc had to tape out.
Thank you
Thank You for your video! We need 10s of millions of guys like you ( and Tariq Nasheed) to make aware of and/or correct this hip hop issue and to also look at the Bigger issue we're facing other than hip hop! From 44:48 - to the end of your video, I agree 💯% about what you said!! I truly pray that this hip hop issue rest and become finalized that WE( native black americans) created hip hop!! For the life of me, I do not understand why Dr. Colon is going on deep into nothing about this! In many videos i see him in, I notice he always go in deep into the stratosphere where there's nothing to find regarding Latinos being a part of creating hip hop. Nothing! He want this be this way so badly because Latinos "contributed" in part during no later than the late 70s/ early 80s. This is pretty much when their contribution started🤷♀️!
Although I am not from the Bronx, I am from NYC/NJ metro area and in my 50s and I am a distant witness that during the 70s, I CLEARLY remember do Not seeing, hearing much involvement of Latinos creating or being involved in early hip-hop!
Like the quote from Mark Twain states: "A lie can travel around the world, while the truth is still putting on his shoes!" This is what is happening now.
Thank you
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So if a Puerto Ricans doing right by his family is he trying to act white 😂😂😂
Nope
Facts
James Brown??😮Wowwww!! They are reaching now. Stop inviting everyone to the barbecue. Once they have the recipe, they don’t need you anymore
Exactly
"We can see everybody eles ethnic cleanse but our own because we are in it"...Mann, i felt this in my SOUL💯💯!🔥🔥
Thank you 🙏🏿
This is mad sick...
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DIZZY DON'T AGREE HE WAS NO AFRICAN. BLACK MEN DIDN'T TALK LIKE THAT THEN. 🤣 HE IS A PROVEN LIAR
WE BROUGHT JAZZ TO CUBA LOOK IT UP. HE TRYNA ACT LIKE THEY HAD JAZZ IN THEIR OWN.
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They were followers of hip-hop
Yep
BLACK LOVE Vs. BROTHERLY LOVE . TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS.
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WHAT THE F.....?
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Great video brotha
Thank you
Thanks for your input
This Dude makes no Sense❗️. Reaching and Scratching🎈
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Youre the first channel I see to make the connection between the mass immigration raplacement in our neighborhoods and the narrative they are pushing about origins of hip hop - i have thought the same thing, and it comes down to making money in 20 years, "THIS IS YOUR MUSIC TOO, PRS ARE CO CREATORS" -- you were on it 6 months ago even
Yep, thank you 🙏🏿, check out the channel
The whole world knows
HIPHOP
ROOTS
IS BLK NY CULTURE
and its
Tools
Come
From
Everywhere
Like the music
Not the slane
Or the fasion
Or the other
Elements.
Phily has its
Own movement
There are pictures where graffiti is on walls in 1963
So to say ny
Copied philly
No way
It was the gangs
That started the tagging
Look up new york gangs.
They even rocked and dance to soul music as early as 73
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It was black djs rapping over music at parties in the 70s in St. Louis.
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Stupid lol stop it you must be FBA as well
If they created our music, why aren't they continuing to create the music as we continue to make good music. So they just stopped evolving musically?
They have no origins in it
Yessir 💯
He didn't say drums, he said percusion instruments. It's more than just drums.
Right
@johnnym9483 what about them?
Respect to this topic!! Just want to point out that Roberto Clemente' came from Puerto Rico who played major league baseball for Pittsburgh Pirates was treated like a so call Negro because his skin complexion was dark brown. He was not excepted by the so call black ppl in the states and damn sure not from the so called whyte ppl.
I believe that, it be based on complexion
he look just like Jackie Robinson
blk Americans r very accepting
I can't believe he wasn't accepted
in blk society 🇺🇸
There is no evidence to support the claim you made but you are welcome to keep up the false narrative. Clemente spent most of his time on the baseball team playing 160* games and he spent the offseason in Puerto Rico and Latin America. He rarely interacted with black Americans besides a few players on the team.
AND THAT MEANS WHAT .WERE HIS PANRENTS SLAVES IN AMERIKKKA 😂😂😂
That is a whole lie... He was accepted by black Americans and treated the same as us bc he's was black
I don’t know what Puerto Ricans you guys are talking because out here in NY ain’t no one talking about this topic.
Maybe Puerto Ricans that are involved in music are complaining because the rest of us ain’t thinking about this bullshit. We have other things to worry about. Trust me Puerto Ricans ain’t claiming hip hop.
Good 👍🏿
Exactly!! Real Puerto Ricans are focusing on things that actually matter like creating jobs and getting educated not use things such as job music.
The woman is leading Dr. C and getting off topic.
Who cares about those comments.
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These Folks got off the Topic of Conversation They Have Not Said Anything About That
Right
How come they aren’t the majority in hip hop or what are they creating today cause all I see is black Americans creating and everyone else following and I mean everybody…
Good points
This whole thing about who created rap and hip hop is just crazy. Everyone knows who created rap music.
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The man with the Nike hat does not know what the hell he is talkingabout
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Speak! 💯👍🏾
If your Afro-Cuban or Puerto Rican, do you not posses African in you? The problem lies in whether or not, you consider yourself African. Am I right or wrong?!?
Do you consider yourself a black American is more the case
Hip hop is Frankenstein 1980. It came together.
Ok
Frankenstien did not need any Help to be Built ! He was ALREADY MADE.. BY BLAQUE GREATNESS...
Bx n az … it’s sad we blks have to do this in such short time history has to be checked im born. Raised the Bronx my Cuzzo lived n fat joes building and trust fat joe knows he’s lying in fact fat joes 1 st demo he got his damn deal was done @ jazzyjays studio which was all blk hmm why he ain’t record it with sum latins hmmm my dj in the mid 80s was pr and he got mad heat for doing Moreno music as it was called by Latinos In The 80s and 90s also they were tryna stop rap by house music hmmm go back to the early 90s most rappers had to have at least 1 hip house record on there album.. kid capri nice n smooth slick rick camp lo rock steady breakers nyc breakers is from my hood in the bx .. i grew up n. Rap been around mad rappers DJs
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This is sick...this dude is talking about the growth of James Brown...James was him before he was him...before we heard of him. There was no influence out side of his environment.
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Thanks
How you gonna believe him over the pioneers who we're there ? He talking about he was there and saw everthing going on in the streets . Just because your from the bronx doesnt mean you were in the mix . Sounds just like everyone martched with Dr king because they were around in the 60ies . Wasnt he 8 years old at the time talking like he was in the mix at teen parties with black people who his culture did not want their kids even around our culture at the time . Give credit where credit is due .... I knew they were gonna pull this in the 80 ies the stealing of Hip Hop just like Rock N Roll when it blew up .
Marched
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Nyc lingo and urban lingo from the neighborhood
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Puerto Rican’s are American. What is this guy talking about 😂
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@@DAndreCalloway PR is apart of the United States since 1917. Get your Facts str8 Papo 😂🇵🇷😎
Let me tell you how sick this is...Now i see why they saying hes anti black. To say that the drums used in the breaks was played by latinos is why he feels they helped create hip hop is crazy. Thats no different then saying Chinese created turn tables so they created hip hop. How we used these sounds and equipment within our culture is what created hip hop. See, hes missing the mark bad. The culture created hip hop the environment. We werent listening to latino songs. So who cares who james hired to play the drums and where he was from. What are you talking about...the only reason we knew it was because our parents listen to james...thats all we knew. So how could something we didnt even know about influence us to do anything. This is crszy and yhall letting him get away with it.
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FBA must now create their own non-U.S-Based labels and Non-U.S-based Distribution channels, leave the U.S and continue being the creator's people and doing great things in parts of the world where people understand this about us.
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@@DAndreCalloway Yup. America is inherently anti-black. As soon as we get out of here, the creator will punish it. They know this and it is why they dont want us leaving the U.S.
🫡313Detroit I’m from the Eastside FBA Allday 🔥✊🏾💯
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FUBU---Hip Hop was created for us ,by us because it spoke to the conditions that the FBA family could relate to in this country.Hip Hop is now watered down, diluted and polluted.
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Vote all these immigrants out!
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SEE! That's the whole argument against yall, and the reason why he blocked me. Just because yall from outside of NYC, he's trying to pull rank. He can't do that to me. They HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Hip Hop accept copy. Just like everyone else did and do. The fact is, we still do it. He's Trolling at this point!
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Now when Bam
Put the Name to the talents of the ghetto streets.
Named it
HIPHOP
and its
Elemements
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Bam didn't name hip-hop anything
Hip Hop was created by Urban Black Americans from the Bronx using different existing components.
I agree
Jazz is a music genre like hip-hop that takes elements from other cultures that did not originate in FPA America, such as Caribbean, European and African elements all other forms of FPA created music are all considered derivatives of European music that’s what separates those other genres from jazz. simply taking elements from another piece of music, such as a rhythm that does not belong to any single genre does not mean that the creation comes from its ingredients that similar to saying that the man who invented the sandwich could not have invented the sandwich, considering he didn’t invent any of the ingredients, or any author of a book cannot claim ownership of the book, since they did not invent the words in the dictionary, nor the ideas, phrases and articles that may be used in the book. This is why the argument that hip-hop is the evolution of brake selection from old record is an argument, especially considering that some of the records use the early days. . This is why the argument that hip-hop is the evolution of brake selection from older record is a week argument, especially considering that some of the records use the early days such as the sample from jump on it were not of African-American music. Because the drummer was actually Bohemian. I’ve heard the same drum rhythms on Mexican ballad music from back in the 60s. That funk break poly rhythm that is in the James Brown funky drummer track is the definitive factor of rhythm that you can hear modern day, hip-hop production, which is not bound by melodic structures as it’s only the rhythm that is carried over into the production, which means you cannot say that is strictly, a product of jazz, blues, funk, etc. which are defined by melodic structures not rhythms. We never defined all those African-American genres by their rhythms, that is something that only started when hip-hop Reggaeton Neo, Dancehall house and techno became popular. Each one of those genres are either separated by their drum selection, or rhythmic patterns, not their melodic structures, as opposed to the blues and R&B, which have clear, harmonic and melodic elements that are integral to defining the genre. I can put trap drums over meringue music for example and it’ll still be hip-hop. Therefore, we have to give cool her credit for creating something new out of something old because us as producers are copying his brake selection we are not simply copying a full record.
Some of those records, such as the funky drummer record, have many rhythms that change the whole feel of the track from moment to moment. Capra is a Latino Afro invention, and it came out of Brazil and that is the main anatomical movement component of breakdancing. Cornbread is not from New York and did not inspire any New York graffiti artist. Therefore, he is not the father of hip-hop graffiti it is Julio and Julio was a Puerto Rican, who was doing graffiti back in the 60s. It’s interesting how Tariq Nashid goes all the way to a whole Nother city that has nothing to do with the movement that was going to be here without cornbread seems to me like it was more about him being fba. DJ was invented by white people as they were the first party radio and even operating DJ considering Thomas Addison was its inventor. Wrapping could be observed as far as West Africa meaning you cannot claim one single person created wrapping because it’s a vocal skill and nobody invented singing. I say that to say this, just because you did not invent any of the elements does not mean that you cannot be a part of the cultivation of a culture which is what we mean when we say create or help create and that has solely to do with the local population it is 100% proximity and participation based it has nothing to do with where the elements come from . Everybody knows why people did not help cultivate hip-hop in the early days. Insignificant numbers at the very least, that’s why you don’t see them included in these kinds of topics despite the fact they created one of the main elements. All Tariq Nash arguments are weak, and they can easily be deconstructed and proven wrong.
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Blah blah blah Blacks created Hip Hop. All that writing and you don't have ONE video or recording lol all that writing lol
@@andrewebb3283 you see all that writing? If they created it , they suck at it lol
@@DAndreCalloway how come Puerto Ricans sample James Brow instead of Tito Frente or Willie Colon? They fresh from the Island but wanna sample James Brown lol?
@@andrewebb3283 kool herc is black that wasnt the point of my comment though it was to disprove what tariq is claiming. Black doesnt mean FBA. and wats funny is that 100 percent of all the facts fba beleavers present NEVER HELP YPUR ARGUNMENT NEBER> make one about dj culture show me a video that proves the creator isnt white. how about capoera ... prove to me that is not latino. instead of making statement and showing pointless videos mabe try PROVING your point. no one said it isnt black we said afro carribeans created it and puerto ricans helped cultivate it.
He made it Universal
Letting everyone in and being part of HipHop Culture
Univesal Zulu Nation.
But now today
Every country has its own HipHop.
Yes once again
Hip Hop is
A Blk NyCulture
Becouse thats where it was formed.
And spreaded all over the usa.
The music is soul
The dances are soul
The language is
Blk amercian street ny slang
And the fasion
Is Blk to the bone out of new york.
Back in the early 80s
Mad cities hatted on ny
And when they did that they
Ragged on the Culture.
Everyone that moves to ny
Converts to a new Yorker.....
End of story.
South America
Thanks you
For Hip Hop.
Now we have our own
Latin
HipHop
But we give you the credit becouse it comes from you's
Soul Train
Is where we all saw the begining
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Fbas, we are the culture. Everyone else are students of our work , 🌎 Globally
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Fat joe started all this shihh 😂
Yea he did
This man is a LIAR!!!!
Who?
Wrong here's why, you don't copy people you think you're better than.
You cosplay and copy people you feel inferior to. Get it? Freedom
Blacks drive American Culture which influences World Culture.
And Puerto Ricans & Caribbeans know this.
They know the number #1 money making Blk Music culture in the World is FBA not Caribbean or Latino. This is why they're upset with Tariq.
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LORT !!!!!! THIS LIE-TINO !!!!
lol 😂
ADOS Family!!
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8 yrs old being in the streets of ny in 1970 through 75 you had to be in a gang if you was eight yrs old
13 and up yes
But 8
No way......
No adult wanted to be near you
Specially at night.
Serious trouble.
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YA'LL LATINOS WAS JUST LIKE TONY MONTANA STRAIGHT OUT OF A CONCENTRATION CAMP, A POLITICAL PRISONER. YA'LL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HIP HOP WAS UNTIL YOU MET FRANK.
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They just affirming early involvement, not hijacking it's history.
*There's probably some kernels of truth to Latino contribution* with the demographics of Bronx. You had Carlos Mendez, Charlie Chase...however FBA in origins.
*Facts that can't be obfuscated in FBA founding on all components of hip hop. This stuff is timestamped and recorded*
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Herc never said he transplanted hip hop from his homeland of Jamaica to NY. In fact, the opposite was said on a 1989 recorded interview. He notes that people weren't feeling his native music at the time, so funk and soul was played...and James Brown was the main one.
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Ken Swift and Crazy Legs both allude to the African American origins of the dance. Legs says in like the latter 70s, they would call it that Morano style whenever the moves from early 70s Zulu Kings was noticed (encapsulated in FrostyFreeze). Morano denotes black and original in this context. He says this is the original style (tho played out by the latter 70s - very very early 80s). Puerto Rican youth added much to that.
The earliest b-boy crew people can recall by name and memory has consistantly been the Zulu Kings (circa 1973) in interviews over time. The b-boys were African American youth at the time like Sasa, Trixie, PeeWee Dance, CharlieRock, N....Twins, Beaver, Lil Boy Keith and more
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In a interview circa 1984, Mele Mel was asked where do you guys get names like Grand Master Flash. Long before Ytb and Internet, Mel tells us...we were influenced by people like Grand Master Flowers (African American) of 60s Brooklyn. Keep in mind that Flowers opened up for James Brown in 1968 at Yankee Stadium in Bronx, NY.
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Coke la Rock (African American), the first rapper and best friend of Kool Herc, going back to the 1960s (middle school). He says that it wasn't a music genre back then, but it's just the way he talked when on the mic giving announcements...and the people loved it. This is a very important detail because specifically African American announcers and performers have always rhyme talked to beats in this mann
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Read: "The Birth of Breaking", by Serouj Aprahamian. Case closed. That las comment about the war is spot on, btw.
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Caribbean people migrated to US since the 50s. What are we talking about here? And your mixing Mexicans to caribbean hispanic people. We got to do better here
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Because he attacks our people, Jamaicans and Africans with lies.
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@@DAndreCalloway Tariq Nasheed OFC
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@@DAndreCalloway 👀 what we looking at?
Put the part when he opligize them too 😅
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U talking about Jho
Lol
We don't think we better than anyone especially our African American brothers and sisters, you shouldn't be talking because you wasn't there and the people who where there where Puerto Ricans and FBA's , actually if you check the census it was 1/3 black and 2/3 Puerto Ricans at the time late '60s The Young Lords and the Black Panthers were helping each other in their struggles, you know why because we all had the same enemy in common, poverty and the government and for your information we are very in tune with our African ancestry but we don't think we're white you must be talking about some other Latin country, stop the hate your lies will only go so far....peace....BX194..💯
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Sorry, but black Africans come in different shades of melanin… not just dark.
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I dont where that came from we want to be white i dont even have white friends lol And im a light skin Rican..😂 This is crazy.Maybe out side of inner cities Hmmmmmmmmm
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An outsider from Detroit speaking on Bronx politics😂😂….watch the Rubble Kings to understand the real, outsiders
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Bronx politics? Hmm
I give i cant watch the rest of it. I dont have time for all pause unpause shit. Let video run wtf
Go away
The real reason is because he does not know what he is talking about.
Who
Tariq@@DAndreCalloway
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You wrong Brother Puerto Rican Acknowledged there Blackness it’s all in our music. Ain’t you from Detroit. Cause I’m from the South Bronx. What do you know about Hip Hop. We not other people. Stop the division we are one Black and Brown.
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