Machining quieter and more user user friendly handles for a milling machine. Related links & information can be found in the associated blog post here: www.dans-hobbies.com/2017/11/...
I changed all my handles out to be walnut. The wood gives the same advantages you mentioned, & looks really nice next to the stainless hand wheels. Plus, gives a retro look to my machines.
Good job. They look good and look like they work well. If you find the bushings don't hold up you could make them out of brass. I use it often and find that it holds up well.
Where there is a squeak, there is unwanted friction. What are you using as a power feed on your compound. You just answered my question. Very inventive. Cheap handles is one way they hold down the price on the mill. What would you have to charge for a set of handles like you made? Like the man said about good whiskey, smooootthhh. Good to see young men in the machining business.
I'm nut sure what I would charge, because I've been declining making stuff for people. I don't have enough tooling yet to allow me to make stuff at a reasonable price while still making a decent hourly rate. I do post drawings/blueprints for almost all my projects, so people can make them if they want. For example at the bottom of this page are drawings for the handles. www.dans-hobbies.com/2017/11/07/better-mill-handles/
hi Dan. Great video again. Question. What brand and model of lathe do you use? I’m looking for a good garage home shop lathe that is not to small and can Handel small to medium jobs in all metals.
Hi Dale, my lathe is an early 00's version of the Harbor Freight 8x12 (really it's 8x14, HF doesn't know how to measure the distance between centers). www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-x-12-inch-precision-benchtop-lathe-44859.html If you want something bigger than that, I'd probably go with a Precision Mathews 10 or 11" model. www.precisionmatthews.com/ MrPragmaticLee owns an 11x27 if you want to take a look at that. ua-cam.com/channels/8ASbdCWJOQoNijT9wjsBSg.html
A friend of mine has this same lathe collecting dust in his shop. He has a 10x Craftsman Atlas that he uses most often. The 8x14 doesn't feel like as much of a toy as my 7x12 mini lathe. It has a decently powerful motor and metal gears, good dials/handles and generally feels "good" to use. So if you can find one of these I would recommend it.
Hi Bobby, It's a 5" 5C collet chuck that I purchased from a company called "Lathemaster" a few years back. Unfortunately, Lathemaster is no longer in business. Bison and Gator make similar chucks, but they are more expensive.
No doubt they are great looking and working handles, but a drop of oil on the bolt to stop the squeak and a suitably sized O ring between the shaft of the bolt (or maybe under the bolt head) and the inside of the handle would stop the rattle. :-) Those "nylon" bushings (depending on the actual material) will probably outlast the machine. :-)
Jeesus.. for handles.. to me this just feels like having 24 carrot tire valve caps or something.. like a remote controlled rear view mirror.. just too much for what it is.. tolerance that tight for a handle.. sorry.. nice work but just thinking the work going into it is too too much.. for me however. I just used some pex tubing i had laying around and copper tubing which pex is slightly smaller than copper so bushings, bam, took the copper pipe and braised a taper bearing housing to the outside, put the rollers back in the bearing, took a longer screw and tightened her down.. smooth like butter.. 5 mins of work, 2$ materials.. got bearings out of a copy machine paper feed motor..
I changed all my handles out to be walnut. The wood gives the same advantages you mentioned, & looks really nice next to the stainless hand wheels. Plus, gives a retro look to my machines.
Black Walnut is one of my favorite woods. How is it holding up to cutting oils and the like?
It is going extremely well. I also like that it doesn't seem to get slippery when my hands are oily (as they always are when using my metal lathe).
Pure genius using the T handle to spin the compound handle. Why didn't I think of that.
Very nice video. Watching that HSS bit roll of aluminum strings is almost mesmerizing.
Nice! You have motivated / inspired me to upgrade my handles. Thanks for the video.
Good job. They look good and look like they work well. If you find the bushings don't hold up you could make them out of brass. I use it often and find that it holds up well.
Great video Dan. It's always nice when your problems make for good videos! 🙂
Great work as always, Dan! I need to do the same for my baby mill, it has exactly the same problem.
Excellent work Sir!
jster1963 thank you!
Nice handles. Those on my PM have the same issue, so I may be copying your design one day.
Making new handles is bit of an overkill, a 2 min fix would be just putting some plastic shavings (with low friction) and maybe tad of oil in handle.
@@pektorijs Really not overkill,for someone like me that those small handles cause pain in my finger joints. To each his own.
what a great idea! My handles drive me crazy.
Good video made Handel’s with closer tolerance for my lathe cuts the noise down noticeably
Great vídeo.
Where there is a squeak, there is unwanted friction. What are you using as a power feed on your compound. You just answered my question. Very inventive. Cheap handles is one way they hold down the price on the mill. What would you have to charge for a set of handles like you made? Like the man said about good whiskey, smooootthhh. Good to see young men in the machining business.
I'm nut sure what I would charge, because I've been declining making stuff for people. I don't have enough tooling yet to allow me to make stuff at a reasonable price while still making a decent hourly rate.
I do post drawings/blueprints for almost all my projects, so people can make them if they want. For example at the bottom of this page are drawings for the handles.
www.dans-hobbies.com/2017/11/07/better-mill-handles/
I was just making the point of how they keep the price down on machines. Thanks for the link.
Those nylon bushings should last forever
That's the hope!
Nicely done. The design and finish are looking great. How are they holding up?
So far so good. I think it will take a while before i can say if the design was a good idea or not.
hi Dan. Great video again. Question. What brand and model of lathe do you use? I’m looking for a good garage home shop lathe that is not to small and can Handel small to medium jobs in all metals.
Hi Dale,
my lathe is an early 00's version of the Harbor Freight 8x12 (really it's 8x14, HF doesn't know how to measure the distance between centers).
www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-x-12-inch-precision-benchtop-lathe-44859.html
If you want something bigger than that, I'd probably go with a Precision Mathews 10 or 11" model.
www.precisionmatthews.com/
MrPragmaticLee owns an 11x27 if you want to take a look at that.
ua-cam.com/channels/8ASbdCWJOQoNijT9wjsBSg.html
A friend of mine has this same lathe collecting dust in his shop. He has a 10x Craftsman Atlas that he uses most often. The 8x14 doesn't feel like as much of a toy as my 7x12 mini lathe. It has a decently powerful motor and metal gears, good dials/handles and generally feels "good" to use. So if you can find one of these I would recommend it.
A lot of work to solve a small problem.
Hello Sir. Is that a 5C Colet chuck on your lathe ?. If so what brand and Size back plate ?. Thank you for sharing.
Bobby
Hi Bobby,
It's a 5" 5C collet chuck that I purchased from a company called "Lathemaster" a few years back. Unfortunately, Lathemaster is no longer in business. Bison and Gator make similar chucks, but they are more expensive.
@@Dans-hobbies Thank you for the fast reply Sir. I hope to find one like that in the future. Love your channel.
All my best.
Bobby
maybe to add some knurling?
No doubt they are great looking and working handles, but a drop of oil on the bolt to stop the squeak and a suitably sized O ring between the shaft of the bolt (or maybe under the bolt head) and the inside of the handle would stop the rattle. :-)
Those "nylon" bushings (depending on the actual material) will probably outlast the machine. :-)
Jeesus.. for handles.. to me this just feels like having 24 carrot tire valve caps or something.. like a remote controlled rear view mirror.. just too much for what it is.. tolerance that tight for a handle.. sorry.. nice work but just thinking the work going into it is too too much.. for me however. I just used some pex tubing i had laying around and copper tubing which pex is slightly smaller than copper so bushings, bam, took the copper pipe and braised a taper bearing housing to the outside, put the rollers back in the bearing, took a longer screw and tightened her down.. smooth like butter.. 5 mins of work, 2$ materials.. got bearings out of a copy machine paper feed motor..