What You Can Learn From The Best WTA Serves
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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Who has a stronger serve ATP or WTA players?
The ATP players serve faster. But the best WTA serves are pretty close when it comes to speed. Just think of Madison Keys, Sabine Lisicki, or Venus Williams. So how are they generating so much power?
I wanted to know the answer so I studied the best WTA serves of all time and found very interesting similarities between them. The WTA players don't have the same strength as the ATP players so they rely on more natural ways to deliver this power. You as a recreational player should utilize these technical elements on your serve since they require very little effort. Find out what you can learn from the best WTA serves.
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Why are you able to do all of these variations so effortlessly and I'm working hard to get just one solid? :( Great content, thank you! :)
Thank you for doing this!! None of the other channels ever cover WTA serves.
Using the lag has helped me a lot to improve my ball toss - however, at the end of a set my arm always got tired. Thanks for the fix! Will try it next time :)
You have no idea how much your serve videos have helped me. I feel I owe you money for that.. thanks! =)
Glad to hear that Jon 🙏🙏
Jon, I felt the same way. Then I did Nik's video analysis service, and brother, you ain't seen nothing yet. I still credit him with a major breakthrough on my forehand which was good but something was off... he nailed it. If you want that personal touch, do the vid analysis, it's awesome. No, I'm not a paid spokeperson :)
@@andrewhwang8951 I'm positive he is the real deal. For the past 9 years I've been watching various tennis channels on YT and very few channels have the quality content we see here. If I could I'd pay for In-person lessons with him. I'm in Brazil right now but will see what happens in the future. Cheers
Great insights! Did never notice that lag would help the serve. Interesting that all players improve their serve dramatically during their 20s. so this only shows how difficult the shot is. You can always improve your serve!
Could you do a STEP-By-STEP video with slow motions included on how do a WTA serve? Looking forward to seeing this video. Thank you
Excellent discussion of technique as always from you! Thanks.
Look so nice there. Wish we could play tennis here. Keep up the good work!
Brilliant video as usual
Thanks Vijay
Good comments ,we now this 10 year ago !it's good!!!! Thanks.coach
Great analysis and technical advice as we have come to expect. I would only add that some players are very tense when they start their service motion. They squeeze the racquet handle with a death grip. This tension tightens the muscles in the arm which doesn’t allow a smooth fluid motion. Try relaxing the grip when in the ready position. As you allow the racquet to lag you will increase the grip gradually as you swing up. I like to start with my thumb and forefinger gripping the handle and other fingers very relaxed. I wiggle them before I start my motion to place the ball up and increase hand tension as racquet moves from lag up,to strike the ball.
In the important serve stretch phase. The momentum developed with the legs has already been transferred to the body (no ground contact).
Impressive video, I really like your way of teaching. Thanks!
Switched to platform serve at age 57 and increased my consistency has improved because the upward thrust is more balanced . Not convinced about the benifits of pinpoint serve . I feel that Venus inconsistency on pressure points hurt her, otherwise she is the greatest server
0. Julia Goerges (lag)(-a-rama!)
I think I'll live to be 100 yo and will never understand Julia's serve mechanics..but it works for her!
Please give lag drills , bend drills, leg drive drills 🙏
Great insight!
Could you argue that Djokovic has a slight lag?
@1:41 motion reminds me of his
Djokovic definitely has a lag
Interesting video! What is your take on why ATP players like Ivanisevic and Krajicek, both monstrous servers, utilized the lag along with a low toss, if indeed a lower toss results in a loss of power? Was this not even known back in the 90s?
A loss of power from a low toss for most players. Tanner, Ivanisevic, Kyrgios have incredible power with a low toss because they possess the right genetic predispositions to be able to execute it.
Doesn’t Medvedev also have a WTA style serve? And is his serve semi abbreviated?
Definitely has characteristics of it
He has full lag btw
I use a platform stance and a low ball toss…. Please do a video about this style..
Vandeweghe has one of the best first and second serve. Also Madison Keys. Shame they can't capitalize on it. We can mention Stosur who has the best second serve ever on wta.
Thank you so much, great video. Can you tell me please, what leg is used to push up and off the ground as the ball is hit.the upward forward momentum?
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Damn you're good!!! 👍
Nikola,
I’m a senior with a quick service motion, low toss and platform stance. Are there some pros who serve like this? And can I still produce an effective serve? I believe I have a lag even with this quick service motion.
You got my mind scrambling with this one. Usually quick rhythm servers use pin point.
Dolgopolov is the only one I can think of with platform and quick rhythm, but I’m sure there are more
doesn’t ivanisevic have low toss and no lag. In fact I think ivanisevic tanner and curren similar. All with very low ball toss and the toss arm actually lags behind the serve arm. They are almost bring both arms up at same time and the toss barely goes out a few seconds prior to the swing. I find this helps better for first serves. My second serve I still toss low but maybe an inch or so higher as I swing slightly slower and work more on brushing with a slice or kick
Andy Roddick serve seems have no lag.
It’s very abbreviated
Your so tall tho… I’m a short woman (5’2)…. So we need a video on clearing the net!
If the "vast majority of ATP serves have these elements in common" with WTA serves, why single out the women? Why not just concentrate on the fact that these are "natural ways to create power?" If, indeed, they are natural ways to create power (not disputing that), why not just consider the techniques and forget about the modest (minor? insignificant?) gender difference in their use?
As for that difference, it is not likely attributable to a differential in strength. If these are "natural ways to create power," then they benefit anyone, no matter what their strength or gender, and both men and women, in equal degree, would use them. After all, in every aspect of the game both men and women look for ways to generate pace naturally, with less effort, regardless of strength. If strength were the determining factor in the techniques' differential use, then the less powerful men would make more use of them, while the more powerful women would make less use of them. Have you noticed that this is the case? I haven't. If there is a meaningful gender distinction in the use of these techniques, attributing it to a difference in strength is, at best, speculative.
While the techniques are well worth demonstrating, you have inserted an unnecessary gender distinction. Why?
Because 100% of the best WTA serves have these technical elements in common while there are some different characteristics among the top ATP serves.
It makes sense because most regular players can relate more to the WTA players than the ATP players. The average height for a man is probably pretty close to, or just above, the average height on the WTA tour. And most men are probably just as strong physically as WTA players, whereas that likely not the case with ATP players. If Ash Barty can serve the way she does with her physical characteristics, we can learn a lot from her, while trying to serve like Isner or Kyrgios (or even Federer) is pointless for the vast majority of regular players. Think about it...
@@robertorolfo Roberto, appreciate your comment. It's nice to know someone reads these things.
there is no such thing as a "WTA serve", I'm guessing you ran out of video ideas so you made up this junk lol