Why Phil Foden Is Not The Problem
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Finally some actual analysis rather than people spouting something they’ve heard on TalkSport. Great work mate - I agree, Foden was doing all the right things in the first half hour! And let’s be honest, nobody had a good 2nd half!
I concur 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
But he's not right at all. Foden was misplacing passes and wasn't on the right wavelength in the first half at all. Sometimes your eyes can tell you what you need to know, you don't need an analyst trying to construct a different narrative by saying things like "nobody passed to him" etc.
England has a progression problem, yes, but when Foden DID have the ball, he was making some puzzling choices. For example. trying give and goes where he drifts into a position that's impossible for the player to reach him with a pass. Demanding the ball when he's not open etc
they had 1shot on target
In 1st half he had angreat chances to score when he was found by Bellingham cheeky low pass but his close control and first touch was awful and the ball was cleared by Serbian defender.
Playing in a tournament any player that play in advance role have to be decisive and never missed any chances when given and also have to be effective as well. Tournament football is not the same with league football, in league football draw is okay and every player that play bad in tournament football have to be benched because tournament football is ruthless, no mistake were allowed.
@@matthewbaxter-bm8yv they had a lot of chances that should've been on target and England had 1 more
I think he lacked the support of an overlapping left back. I really dont like Trippier in that role because he always takes that extra touch to use his right foot and slows down that side. It meant Foden had no-one to play those fast 1-2s that hes so good at.
i though this could be remedied by moving Saka to LWB but again he is very effective on the right and it would be a waste but overall the team would be more balanced. this could be done until Shaw can comeback.
@@Whyalwaysm3 Saka last played LWB over 3 years ago, it's just not going to happen. The only way I can see it happening is if every single defender is injured and we have to create a back line out of forwards and midfielders.
@@Whyalwaysm3 But why move Saka from his position out on the right, where he always perfroms for England, just to accomodate Foden who never seems to play well for England. Seems quite backwards changing positions of our best players to fit one player, when we could just bench Foden and play Gordon down the left instead.
@@dylxn0613you simply don’t bench Foden… you play him in the middle where he is class!
@@ace12brown what about when he was the worst player on the pitch vs Iceland, and what do you do about Bellingham. You can’t seriously say foden is a better 10 than Bellingham. You can’t switch up the whole tactical dynamic for one player.
Runners, no one was running beyond Kane not even little give-and-goes. The fact players are still so one-footed is amazing to me. And not brave enough on the ball. We play not to lose instead of trying to win and when we go one up we stop playing
I know they are multi millionaire and not remotely disciplined to get competent on both feet. Madness. Not only English players. 99% of players
First part definitely right - no runners when we have TAA on the pitch was a missed opportunity. But they ended up defending because they froze as soon as Serbia put some pressure on. Southgate doesn’t tactically change when we score, it’s the players that suddenly freeze and panic and lose the confidence
I cannot fathom how poor the effort levels are. So little running, such passive approach no energy no intensity.
Saka was consistenly beyond Kane. I'm confused by this. Foden didn't. But Saka and Bellingham were consistently beyond him. Kane was drifting out left to fill in that left wing that TAA was looking to play the ball into.
One footed... Saka crossed the ball with his weaker foot to which Jude scored 🤦🏿♂️
With no natural left back we should be playing Gordon who will do a lot to cover that area defensively as well as put some energy into the forward half- not to mention the press
The problem is truly highlighted in this video. I rarely disagree with you Jim. But to sit there and say "does Gordon work, yes, probably but I want worldclass Foden in the team" is exactly why so many teams and generations have failed. Shoehorning great players into the team in positions they don't excel at. What is wrong with having worldclass Foden on the bench to come in for either Saka or Bellingham to make a difference?
Play a LW on the LW.
"If anyone was playing left wing, then it's Trippier..." isn't that the problem, mate? The reason Trippier is being a non-effective 'LW' is because Foden is not playing LW, and I genuinely don't believe he impacted the team enough to justify "Trippier playing as our LW" given how unnatural it is for Trippier to take those positions up (and that is forced upon due to injury).
I wonder if Saka/Jude/TAA would get the same defence
You said so much but it was a whole basket of nothing
@@BiggestBirdonMars I'll send it again for a second look, mate.
The problem is truly highlighted in this video. I rarely disagree with you Jim. But to sit there and say "does Gordon work, yes, probably but I want worldclass Foden in the team" is exactly why so many teams and generations have failed. Shoehorning great players into the team in positions they don't excel at. What is wrong with having worldclass Foden on the bench to come in for either Saka or Bellingham to make a difference?
Play a LW on the LW.
"If anyone was playing left wing, then it's Trippier..." isn't that the problem, mate? The reason Trippier is being a non-effective 'LW' is because Foden is not playing LW, and I genuinely don't believe he impacted the team enough to justify "Trippier playing as our LW" given how unnatural it is for Trippier to take those positions up (and that is forced upon due to injury).
@@BiggestBirdonMarsWdym? He’s just saying play players in areas that they excel in…it’s kinda like when we had Gerard/Lampard/Scholes in midfield and we had to sacrifice parts of their game and it clearly didn’t work for various reasons.
Personally I think they can play together if they make direct passes to Foden and it’s obvious a fit Shaw would help…but what this lads saying isn’t that hard to understand…
trippier should be dropped, trent on the left as an inverted fullback cause hes just not good enough as a cm. bellingham can play deeper, foden 10 and gordon comes on at lw
There was no threat at all from the left wing, where Foden was supposed to be.
Gordon wouid have been a much better option , and Kane would have got more service.
The second half was very poor, with England defending deeper and deeper, against a mediocre team.
Southgate said the players were tired, in which case why didnt he bring on subs earlier ?
He seems tactically inept to me.
You missed a big explanation for KT only passing backwards, you showed multiple times that Foden is usually inside in that halfspace area, his heatmap shows it too. Compare that to Saka’s, and you see how high and wide he is, often infront of Walker giving him the opportunity to play those forward balls in behind or at feet that you highlighted (the goal came from one as well). If Gordon is LW I guarantee he gets alot more forward passes.
Foden has a habit of playing with Rodri. Rodri in City at pivot takes the ball from defenders and play it forward to the False Wingers City have (Foden and Silva). We don’t have a similar player to Rodri. Rice’s strengths are Defending and Progression. Bellingham’s are Build Up Play and Crashing the Box. But we have an 8 in Trent with a very good passing range but Foden tends to drift inside and this gives Trent no option. Foden should be told to run behind the lines vs Denmark. If he does good then he can play but if he doesn’t, he has to benched and Gordon should play.
Some facts for you James to help you make the right choices moving forward.
Gordon has world class pace, tenacity, movement, mentality. Ask any Newcastle fan, there is no lw we would rather have. Barely any players do what he does on both sides of the ball. He is very close to becoming a world class player himself. Southgate must give him the opportunity to shine; he instantly fixes all the issues this team had vs Serbia
Eze wants it into feet, and won't stretch the game. Gordon is the answer
Given that Bellingham is a better 8 than TAA and Gordon is a better winger than Foden. Shouldn't we just play Foden as the 10, have Gordon and Shaw on the left and let Bellingham and Rice get familiar before we face serious opposition, which would likely mean TAA vacating midfield anyway?
I’ve been saying this. Rice and Bellingham together, and make use of Foden as the 10, which is actually his position
Moving around our best player for a guy who has zero good performances for England
Why should we move Bellingham to accommodate Foden?
No, Foden can sit on the bench
@@lewiscoates1691Foden doesn’t have the mentality for the 10 the way Jude does. Never in a million years could he do what Jude does
I dont think Foden played bad offensively, but I think defensively he was poor, wasnt pressing nearly as hard as the other front 4, which was leading to breakdowns, and instead of subbing him off for a Gordon we adjusted by just getting 11 behind the ball
Foden was the hardest presser of anyone.
foden pressed more than anyone why are you lying lmao
@@ivanmijacika7230 how am I lying? I'm just going off the eye test, if you have stats please go ahead, but I couldn't find any for this game, but from what I saw Foden was having to run the furthest to his defender when England decided to press, this may look Foden is trying bc he is running hard but actually means he was in a poor defensive position. Bellingham and Saka were great in the press, and Kane was good until he got tired.
The mental gymnastics ppl go through making excuses for Foden is insane.
You watch that game yesterday and tell us that the other players on the pitch, especially Declan rice, where not completely ignoring him when he was begging for the ball multiple times in great positions in the pockets.
Ffs the guy was literally on an island for the majority of the game. Even tripper gave up on giving width in the game after 20 minutes
@@Nobody15534 this is just more mental gymnastics. Has Foden been ignored in an England shirt for 2-3 years now? He's done zilch
@@nichobee idc what has been going on for the last 2-3 years I’m talking about what is going on now in this match and the England setup. You bringing up fodens past perfomances is not refuting anything I said.
@@Nobody15534 it entirely refutes what you said, because you can't just ignore two to three year pattern to suit your narrative and make excuses for Foden. This is not a one off game.
He needs to play through the middle so badly. Our system is obviously wingers that can beat a man and go to the bi line (like saka can) that’s not what Phil does.
Worked vs Iceland didn't it
Last time he did that he stunk it out too
and start him over bellingham at 10? you’re insane he just needs dropping
@@deejaystan3413judging off one game where everyone else was also terrible? Come on, you’re a grown man. Engage your brain
@@jakethompson7452he’s not wrong
Southgate's unwillingness to sub Harry Kane is the worst thing about this England side. That second half was crying out for Watkins and Gordon.
Tbf to Kane he spent 90 mins wrestling with a 6'5" Brick house Serb lmao. I thought we needed to take Kane off 15 mins into the second half. I think fresh legs would have hurt Serbia with them all being long legged, It takes its toll over 90mins
It was made for Watkins to come, like how Jim implies. I feel like it's madness to have Kane be run into the ground when we've barely even started this tournament. I feel like in previous tournaments its the same thing where he's played too many minutes and ended up looking dead on his feet
@@timbrown3560 Watkins would have had the same treatment. The role of a striker is sometimes to take pressure off of the 10 so they can do the scoring, which actually worked in this game. The only reason to bring Watkins in would be to save Kane's fitness, though I'd add that the coach/players/backroom staff will know more about the intricacies of a player's health than fans watching at home. They'll be acutely aware of what players can take and when they've had enough, because it's in their best interests to preserve fitness for later games.
with the way Pickford was hoofing the ball... should have played Toney instead. That's all Toney did when Raya was still at Brentford...
The fact that Kane is record goalscorer overall and in tournaments for England is insane given the chronic lack of supply. You could see he wasn't pressing the defenders playing it around the back, which looks bad, but it's the first game in a tournament so he's trying to conserve energy. There should be minutes for Watkins/Toney but not because Kane is playing badly. As soon as he gets proper service he's making chances, as with the crossbar incident.
Foden should be dropped and used as a bench option for Jude, he looked dreadful in the friendly where he was played in his best position and he just doesn't work on the left.
Finally someone who sees that foden on the left makes trent in the middle useless because he doesnt make those runs that gordon does
There was people that was saying that way before the game and also that trent is useless in middle, also can't recive and carrry out a ball from the back
@@xaltotunacheron7544 he can tho he did it all game people seem to only remember the one mistake
@@kyedell99 How many times, when and against who? it's Euros and being lucky twice in a row seems unlikely. Same thing the next match and expect different result?
Foden is obviously very talented but is he really Englands most talented player? Yes he has a silky touch and scores great goals but are people not just wowed by aesthetics here?
In an ideal world with a tactically superior coach, Foden and Bellingham could play as duel 10s. But that isnt the case with England. Foden doesn't hold width, he is not an outlet in behind, he doesn't go 1v1, he isn't a deep phase buildip midfielder and he isn't an elite unstoppable creator. At City, he isn't any of those things either - Rodri, Bernardo, Haaland, KDB do that work.
What Foden excels at is playinhg in a free role centrally, from where he can accelerate the attacking movement with quick interplay --- which he can't do for England because the chemistry/passing patterns aren't there. So all he is for England is a second striker, with elite shooting ability.
If you play him on either wing, you are basically playing without a winger on one side. If you play him at 10, you have to drop Bellingham deep. Maybe there's a case for that -- but do you want to take Bellingham away from that area, after he won England the match, scoring a goal which Foden 100% wouldn't have?
England's chance creaton in open play is likely going to be dependant on Saka+whoever he is combining with on the right, hopefully Trent, maling something happen, getting a good ball in the box --- so England need Bellinghams box crashing.
In knockout matches against better teams, you need runners in behind to stretch the opposition and keep thwir defensive line honest. That's Gordon, not Foden.
Maybe the chemistry will work itself out in two games, maybe Shaw comes back fit and changes everything. Big maybes. Or maybe England accept that Foden is a very talented player who can affect games off the bench, but ultimately just doesn't fit tactically. Pep or a Nagalsmen can make this sort of thing work, Southgate can't, certainly not now.
I really do rate Foden but it's frustrating for people to look for excuses for England's "most talented" player when other players like Saka, who are performing in spite of the shite tactics, would NEVER get such excuses made for them. If Saka has that game, everyone is saying to bench him.
France won the world cup with Benzema at home. Play the players who can perform in the conditions that exist, and play the system that actually works. Again you could play Bellingham deeper, just depends on if you think that's really worth it for a player who has never really performed for England.
I think you make a lot of excellent points. The most annoying thing for me is simply that whenever we talk about a midfield of Bellingham, Rice and Foden, we have to hypothesise because for whatever reason, Southgate has NEVER tried it, not even in a friendly. I’m of the belief that it would work, I think Bellingham makes that box crashing run even if his starting position is as an 8. Until we see it fail, I’m always going to argue that playing those 3 together is the solution. However the unfortunate truth is that Southgate will never play them together, and I would agree with you that the next best thing to do would be drop Foden for Gordon. I would rather Southgate had the balls to do this, rather then sort of compromise and play Foden in a position where he isn’t suited.
@edenholt4394 reason he doesn't try bellingham as an 8 is because it didn't work England's worst results under southgate have come with rice and bellingham in a pivot
@@esseffsee please tell me games where they tried this cos I honestly don’t remember
@@edenholt4394 Well yeah. Southgate has been handed the Premier League POTS, the best player in La Liga last season, and the most prolific striker in Europe last season. And Saka was arguably Arsenal's best player too. If Southgate can't set those players up to get more than 5 shots on goal in 90 minutes, then I'd say that's more a failure of the system. Foden is better in the centre, but it's not as if he doesn't regularly play wide for City, interchanging with KDB, Bernardo Silva and Doku.
@@joepiekl I think the reason Foden works as a left winger for City and not for England is because England seem to be a far more counter-attacking side. We struggle to keep possession for long periods of time and we struggle to quickly win it back high up the pitch. In a team like City where the ball hardly leaves the final third, Foden doesn't need to keep width and make runs, he can focus on what he does best which is playing nice one twos and shooting screamers.
Not sure why no analysts or media are mentioning the physical aspect to it. The whole Serbia team looked like men mountains who were all over 6 ft 2 or 6 ft 3. Even the fullbacks looked like massive units. Same thing today in the Slovakia game. The only players for England that done well were those with a physical presence ( Walker, Rice, Kane, Bellingham etc & Saka with pace). Rest of them were getting bullied around the pitch. Foden looked like a first year playing with the senior lads in high school where all he had was technical ability. That's fine and dandy when your playing at club level and have man city's passing team around you. But at stripped down international level against these physical teams you need to have that physical presence or pace and he had neither in that game. Also the lack of overlap from Trippier did not help. But Trippier gets a pass as he's playing out of position on his wrong foot.
I think you have a point but kane didn't do well. He wasn't terrible simply for that header he nearly scored but otherwise he was bullied by the centre halves all game.
Absolutely fair point they tried to bully everyone
There was nobody there for trippier to overlap if he wanted to. foden had abandoned that wing in the first few minutes
I bet you Gordon or Eze would have performed better
Size isn’t everything. See Spain’s WC winning squad. But that being said, that was a one off freak team. Usually, the best teams have a combination of technical superiority and physical superiority-France, Brazil, Germany come to mind. Also it’s possible to fit a few small players onto a team. France started Kante, who is probably 5’6” (he has legs like tree trunks though). But they make up for it with other imposing midfielders and back line. Some of the GOATs are small statured: maradona, Messi come instantly to mind.
Foden goal via Trent assist, through Schmeichels legs. Scrappy 1-0 win.
The lack of chemistry you talked about is why I’m always baffled that we don’t play our strongest XI every game in the lead up to a tournament. We shouldn’t be tinkering with the team. I was hardly difficult to see that Kane, Foden, Saka, Bellingham and Rice were going to play. They should have been constantly playing together
For me, they haven’t played with a double pivot in any of the build up and then suddenly, Trent and rice were sitting back (after 20ish minutes) trying to protect the back line while Bellingham was running everywhere across the pitch doing his thing.
I understand he’s incredible but it felt like they were sacrificing a lot of players to serve a role that suited him. And from what Southgate said in his post match interview, that was the plan all along. He wanted Trent to sit back along with rice. And foden to do what he did.
And it just felt like we need to be getting the most out of multiple players, not just one.
They’ve been playing for months with 4-3-3 so why switch it all of a sudden to 4-2-3-1
Loved this - What I'd say with Trippier always passing backwards was also partly down to Foden's positioning, not being wide. Not that it has to be, but in this predicament without Shaw, providing Tripper with simple passing lanes helps. Foden makes good moves but these passes aren't simple to pull off, especially for a right-footed left-back. Personally, I'd stick with the system but ask both Foden and Trippier to combine staying wide and converting. There can absolutely be times Foden sticks wide momentarily, allowing Trippier to invert. Trippier will also have a better passing angle should he receive in more central areas
It’s despicable to say that ‘Rice let Foden down’ when Rice was the reason England didn’t lose or draw that game by breaking down attacks.
Foden was the one who was breaking down England attacks the majority of the game with a miss placed pass or running into some player expecting a foul. He was piss poor against Serbia and no amount of analysis can say otherwise
People are just glazing him at this point. “Foden didn’t play good because Kane, Jude, Saka, Rice didn’t do anything for him.” It’s just weird that Foden (a World Class player) needs other players to feed him. “Oh he is playing out of position.” Whole season when they compared Foden and Saka, Foden was very versatile and was able to play LW, now he is out of position? “Oh he will be able to play great at the 10.” Vs Iceland, where he played at 10, he ghosted. So why do we put a settled player out of the team? “He has no experience.” He has more caps under Southgate for England than Saka and Jude, they don’t seem to have a problem. Just face it, he plays for City under Pep (who can make anybody look World Class), he is a system player who will never be World Class until he does good for both club and country. Needs to be on the bench until he becomes really versatile and play any role he is asked to.
@@NorthLondonForeverCOYG absolutely spot on! I’d much rather Gordon or Eze out on the left tbh, there would be more desire from them, cause they’ll have a point to prove.
Have said it before, I’m yet to be 100% convinced on Foden, he’s had moments where he’s been brilliant for city this season, but he needs to step it up for England.
Rice was good defensively but he didn't offer much offensively. I think that's the issue there. At City, the pivot must be great at both role. Fernandinho, Rodri was amazing defensively but also contributed a lot in City offense, making line breaking passes as a 6. Gundo, Kovacic and Bernardo also did the same when they fill in for the 6 role. Just look at Rice pass map that game. All his passes are safe sideway passe but one (which he missed, hilarious).
@@ammarbaagu this is international football, it’s completely different, can’t really compare it to club football.
Also, rice doesn’t play this 6 role at Arsenal so hardly fair to criticise him for doing essentially what 90% of the country want him to do which is protect the back 4.
But fine if you want your narrative you can have it mate 👍
Our whole midfield was the problem. Bellingham was pushing too far forward when the keeper/defense had the ball, and TAA can't turn in the middle of the park for shit. That meant we had to play it long and lost it EVERY SINGLE TIME.
The first 30 minutes were good because I think Serbia just assumed our midfield would be good. Then they realised it wasn't and dominated the area, which is when we struggled.
I agree we need a world class Foden in the team, but for that to work he needs to be in the 10 role with 2 decent midfielders behind him. Rice and Bellingham are undoubtedly good enough for that, but it does mean that Bellingham will need to accept that it's not all about him.
We shouldn't be talking about developing chemistry when we're already one game into a tournament that only lasts a maximum seven games. Should have been worked out already
did you not watch the video? foden was there for the pass SO many times
That’s just not a realistic expectation for a team that has had a few changes in personnel and limited time together. It’ll come
@@CMJames I think the point is that it didnt have to be limited. We should already have chemistry. There have been games but southgate decided at the last minute to finally pick the right players.
Tripps and Gordon already have it. Clear as day Gordon should start LW
Gordon will take his place in a few games, like Saka did at the last euros
Yep. I hope so, I don’t want to see him against Denmark
@@CMJames he'll start against Denmark but not Slovenia. We've done it with him at a few tournaments now
Gordon plays in a way that is simple to integrate and makes the most of Kane. I feel like it’s an obvious solution that makes so much sense
@SweptDust5340 like I say, much how Saka took Fodens place in the last euros we'll give Foden one more start then start Gordon I reckon
I’m not against starting foden despite his poor performance. I’m against him being placed on the wing. He abdicated that position right away and we lost one of our 3 attacking areas completely
He’s wasted out on the left.
Play him in the 10 then he can go both ways and cut onto his left to shoot
Jude is a better player 10 clearly
Yes move the best player in the world for an underperforming international. Genius.
Let me get my England-branded shoehorn out of storage, because it's time to put all of our big stars in the team and ignore balance, again. If England had 11 world-class 10s, we'd be playing an entire lineup of them.
@@KailamiMwiingaHow? foden has more ga and has 2x his chances created clearly foden is better at 10 clearly jude is better at 8 clearly u never watched the game if u thought jude was the 10
@@gr3saeyend Is that in an England shirt?
Finally someone who actually understands football instead of robots on twitter trying to bring down a player by scapegoating him because he ran rings around their clubs during the season
It was bizarre that even when Bellingham was subbed off Foden wasn't moved to the middle to try an actual LW on the left.
Weren’t box midfields all the rage not long ago? Why can’t we play a box midfield with Rice and someone else (probably Gallagher or Mainoo) at the base as the 6s and Bellingham and Foden as 10s.
Gordon/Eze on the left and Saka on the right, Kane up top.
Back 3 of Guehi, Stones, Walker.
I think another thing about Foden was his confidence. At the start was playing v well but then he had a bad touch in the box that he'd normally score from. Then he lost his confidence, had less dynamic movement, less directness.
Couldn't get it back cos of Serbia's fouling - whenever he went past someone he got took out.
Next game should get confidence back, will be fouled less and hopefully plays better.
The touch is at 11:50
Serbia's tactical fouling was first class. An under reported aspect of England's struggles in the second half IMO
He crumbled mentally, I was surprised tbh
@@CMJames I'd say crumbled is a bit harsh.
But it is a common theme imo. After he's scored in a game his confidence goes up a lot. Like against Everton at the end he just started to demand the ball in the defensive 3rd in order to glide past players.
Also might be why he is capable at playing at different tempos but still only plays at one in a given game/half.
Definitely a lack of confidence throughout. When we’re under pressure, our players freeze. That’s not Southgate, just like the Euro final v Italy. Foden looked like a rabbit in headlights, as did lots of our players.
If Foden's going to drift into the middle then we need a left footed left-back and potentially an out an out winger on the left too. Jude showed he can play as a number 8 and get stuck in defensively
Foden is a man city product, taught to play fast short passes to open up defense. Whole game through we did not even saw a one two played between any players. He is not Messi, he is also been careful not to lose possession as he knows England can't win it back as there is not enough cover behind.
Foden lost possession 11 times in that game you mug
The chemistry is simply lacking, especially on the left side. That’s what you get when you’ve got a number of players who’ve had very limited time playing together. It’ll come with time (hopefully). What I want to see is Bellingham always looking for Foden the same way a Foden looks for him. If those two can link up successfully then we stand a much better chance
@@edenholt4394 actually, I don't see them playing in the same team at all. Unless there are no other options.
did you not watch the video? foden was there for the pass SO many times
@@helloitsme_omer look, those kind of passes ANY players can make. If he cannot beat ONE defender or create any chance and did not win any ball back. That's useless.
For me England most talented player against Serbia is Declan Rice watch his position and body movement in the game.
His passing wasn't great, that's the only thing I'd hold against him.
I dont wanna talk about foden cuz im tired of it but i wanna beg everyone in the comment section to actually pay attention to what Bellingham does as a 10 which is supposed to be his role
His performance yesterday was more of an 8 not a 10
He was crashing the box
Controlling from deep, winning his defensive duels
But he wasnt crating chances he barely spent anytime behind kane
Didnt bother creating a single chance yesterday he spent more time on the left yesterday than in the middle
Hes doing way too much for england
He should play the 8 and stop forcing this idea that he's a 10 when hes not
At madrid the real creator is Kroos not even Jude
The last thing i will say is JUDE IS AN #8
JUDE IS AN#8
JUDE IS AN #8
JUDE IS AN #8
LETS BE SMART
Your right that jude didn't create chances and spend time behind Kane. However, my issue with this comment is that it assumes that a 10 has to create chances and be behind the striker. I disagree. In my opinion, the number 10 shouldn't have a role and instead should be allowed to do what he wants within a game. You don't get that with an 8 or a 6 as they have defined roles. He might not be a conventional 10, but he needs to be played at #10
People moaning that he isnt on the touchline like a traditional winger just dont understand his role, he is usually much more effective in central areas and the half spaces that James mentions.
The absence of Luke Shaw’s overlapping runs denied England the width they needed on the left. Its difficult for Trippier to make these runs and be effective because as we all know, he is a right back.
Maybe the solution is to bring in gordon, maybe we stick to it and hope that the chemistry and confidence builds with these players.. its up to southgate ultimately but taking out foden in my opinion holds back this teams potential.
We need to stop panicking and listening to these clowns on talk sport who exaggerate for engagement, we got the 3 points and i’m sure as the tournament progresses the team will improve.
I think the formation needs to change to fit the players, not the players changing to fit the formation. I'd like to see a 4-1-4-1 with Rice in front of Stones and Guéhi. Foden and Bellingham more central and interchange the No. 10 position and then you can have Eze / Gordon and Saka / Bowen out wide.
I like James and his analysis 90% of the time but I cannot agree with him on this. Foden just does not perform in an England shirt and he’s had countless opportunities to impress in various positions. Even simple things like 5 yard passes yesterday were a couple of yards behind other players. He was slow & very sloppy when he had the ball. He is a great player no doubt but we need to stop this shoehorning of players because of their name. France had numerous great attacking players but they won the World Cup with Matuidi basically playing on the left because it helped balance the team. You cannot play foden and trippier on the left it kills the entire flank.
Also why is it his teammates letting him down & not him letting the team down. He needs to do more for country
did you not watch the video? foden was there for the pass SO many times. He's demanding it and not getting it
@@helloitsme_omer he was poor on the ball all night & the broader point of his issues for England being across more than just that game still stand.
@@branohiwerei290when Foden plays for City the more touches he gets, even as a bounce pass 1 2 back to the passer the more likely he is to do something to affect the game, whether a goal or an assist. When Rice and Trippier refuse to play the ball into him he loses efficiency because he’s out of rhythm with the team. I absolutely agree that Foden needed to be better but he actually needs to be passed to when he wants to be passed to as well. Foden’s grown up learning from David Silva about what to do receiving the ball on the half turn and Rice plays like he’d have a nosebleed if he had to pass forward into Jude or Phil which is why Jorginho or Partey play in the 6 at Arsenal.
@@karmaascendant3936I did notice they froze him out at times, I’m wondering why
This sounds like blame everyone else for Foden’s faults, I love Phil Foden but we have to be truthful sometimes, we should persist with him but he needs to show a bit of spark that he’s been showing all season but I don’t think he has the confidence to take it on like he does for city, he scored so many out of the box goals this season but he didn’t take a single one on
Day 1 of asking James to find a way to show the actual clips and not just stills… your analysis is too good to be hampered by copyright…
I think kane's performance is being underrated, especially in the second half. He was one of the only forward players who actually held up play effectively, and won a ton of free kicks
everyone playing for themselves, keeping their own stats in mind, playing the safe game, top analysis
Most important players had a goal and an assist, respectively.
A lot of foden haters but against a better team that’s tight, Bellingham will fade because he’s only got his physical presence that’s working right now. Foden actually excels against teams that sit back and are tight. We need to get used to him at 10 soon before the big matches
Fade to a brighter stardom?
Serbia are a big team that are tight lol Bellingham has great close quarter control so this makes no sense
@@HEADIE1 sorry I should’ve said a better team not bigger. Against a bigger team like Serbia, Bellingham will do well as he’s physical
Shoutout James for being in Germany yesterday, having a few beers and dropping this excellent analysis before teatime back at base the next day. Great work ethic
Yeah right... like such hard work, man
I really think you should swap foden and saka since trent likes those crosses to the left wing where saka can use his pace and cross with the left foot and foden can cuts inside and shoot or pass to kane or an overlapping walkeer
100%
Englands most talented player is clearly Jude mate
Robotic opinion
He’s really not
maybe but it just makes for a good title, dont think it was that deep
Wrong
@@MCFC399definitely not biased
I was shouting yhis at the tv all the 1st half no one knws the pitch in progression like phil hes on a different level bellingham is fantastic but foden is next level
I was waiting for THIS analysis to come out
Tripps knows Gordon’s game inside out. That’s why they’d work better on the left than Foden and Tripps.
Foden is a better player than Gordon. But in no universe is Phil Foden a better LW than Anthony Gordon. And that’s absolutely clear and obvious.
Kane needs a runner beyond as well. Pace beyond
no offence to foden but we've been making excuses for the geezer for going missing for years not saying he's a bad player but getting to a stage where just gotta admit he's one of those players who go missing for England
I wish he would quit playing for England so that y'all would lose again and id love to see y'all try and slander or blame him
@@BiggestBirdonMars Never did he got blamed for England playing poor. Even vs Iceland, where he ghosted, Saka and Mainoo got the criticism. We can win without him.
Great analysis and so much better than just Foden and Trent are crap.
Shaw is really missed and hope he gets fit. Shaw can play left of a 3 and allow Trent to play left back or Foden to play as a 10 and Shaw bomb up the wing. Trippier did a good job but it's a problem atm.
Trent barely got the ball and Foden kept occupying the same space as Kane and Bellingham. That front 5 need to start clicking.
As always Southgate needs to be braver and use his subs more/faster. But Southgate once again has snuck a win from a lesser side so I won't get grumpy.
Foden cant hold the width on the left and neither can trippier. Shaw can to an extent but Gordon is easily the best in that regard. He has to start for me.
The team is far too slow, the only player offering any pace was Saka and even he isn't the quickest. That left side needs a complete rework, going from Shaw and Rashford to Trippier and Foden is a monumental downgrade
This video is as long as a half of the football he was analysing
Move Bellingham next to Rice; Put Foden in the centre and Gordon on the left.
Bellingham was absolutely everywhere getting into other players way.
Also Foden's 'bad touch', nobody dares question Bellingham but let's be honest the pass is behind him.
No mate, he can take it on the turn - he's done that time and time again. It was a bad touch.
Not a perfect ball, not a perfect touch
@@ironheade22 agreed, but at this level I want my POTY to deal with that. Ball could've been better but was definitely manageable.
@@cogitoy7692we also want our other POTY to not make a pass behind right? Or only one player need to do better?
One of the issues i had with foden in that particular game was that he was losing the ball a lot with sloppy passes. Hr wasnt the only one either, but it was very uncharacteristic of him.
No pressing
I find the analysis of trippier being a bit lazy. There's no context thrown in there that he is the one that has to hold the width on the left and that he doesn't have anyone in front of him to pass too. Walker is obviously going to have more passes forward as he has an actual winger there. I believe we need to have gomez Lb and trent Rb with Gordon on the left and rice, foden and Bellingham in the middle
Trent is clearly the droppable player, with Gordon brought in to stretch the play.
No idea why the discussion you're having is Bellingham or Foden. Just play Bellingham box to box, like he's played consistently before this season, you even highlighted his work tracking back!
Interesting analysis.
One observation is that foden’s good moments came from when Serbia were very passive. But as you say he’s doing the right things and the chemistry is not quite there.
However, it makes me think about your Trent comment regarding mid range passing. I think Wharton would be ideal on the left of midfield too play those sort of passing and would unlock foden and Jude in that half space.
If you want Trent the you need the pace behind the defenders. So Gordon and Watkins might be a better combo.
Thought this might have been a 40min video of just ‘it’s not going away’😂
I think an important point that was raised is how often Pickford goes long and he takes so long to release the ball which closes off passing lanes to play through the press. Any team that opts to press high will force this England team to lose possession. Pickford won't be dropped and this will have a major impact on the team's ability to retain possession and progress the ball. It is a critical limitation of the team.
You would be as quick to blame him if he played it short and we lost possession. Much bigger issues than Pickford.
The strange obsession with playing Bellingham further forward causes two of the biggest issues in the team - shoehorning Foden into the side on the left which means we have absolutely no width and are unbalanced, and the absolute nonsense Trent experiment in midfield.
Just play Bellingham in his *actual* position and play someone like Gordon on the left, it’s not rocket science.
Loved you on happy hour mate
Jude had plenty of impact
I can’t help but feel that without Shaw, we’re going to need to sacrifice one of Foden, Trent or Bellingham to get Gordon on the pitch for more width, Foden drifting across just crowded the area Trent was trying to operate in and also resulted in there being no width on the left
Drop Foden, frees up TAA, Jude and Saka
Drop Trent and play Jude deeper
I 100% agree. Shaw solves a lot of problems. That overlap was sorely missing.
Bit late to this video but I see confirmation of my belief that Jude should play next to Rice and be allowed to roam. Tell him to look for Foden for those short passes or take people on because he has Rice as cover. Put Foden in the central CAM role and play an actual LW on the LW. That will the runners to assist Kane. If Foden isn’t getting joy swap him with Palmer etc etc
England's most talented player did have an impact, he got the assist. Foden propaganda is unreal
James, whats your thoughts on simply swapping saka and foden. Saka was the highest player on your pass map of our team. Trent can then play that long ball to saka in same way we are thinking he would for gordan. Then foden and walker can link up. I'm not 100% it would work, but is it worth trying during game. Also kane needs a rest / wake up call. Swap, swap back, opposition can't settle? BTW, big fan, love your depth of analysis! I watch this over pundits all day..
What we haven’t done for years is picking the best team not the best players.
i love how this game highlighted pretty much every reason why Rashford should’ve been called up
For real, those Trent to Rashford passes would have been devastating
@@adeyemiblessingexactly. Trent had no one to switch it to.
btw the fact of the matter remains that we can’t have a whole flank not being used. That’s why i don’t want him in the team
I think one of the issues that caused so much backwards passing from Trippier was Foden's positioning. If Gordon or Eze had been ahead of him there would be many more forward passes. Instead Foden kept drifting inside and back looking for those half-turns and runs that you highlighted meaning Trippier was forced into playing safe.
Saka and Bellingham clear
Great vid. I was thinking Gallagher or Wharton instead of Trent before watching this but agree, let’s build up the cohesion and stay the same again with the line up. I will say though it’s a big game for Trent, he looked nervy defensively at times so coming through the game with a win will hopefully build up his confidence.
Kane though, I can’t see him being subbed by Southgate, he’s his golden boy.
Side point: Anyone notice England had almost the exact same tactical setup in the first half as the Italy team that won the Euros? Italy's left back was better and more attacking however.
Gordon at left back for fun?
Does anyone know what that pitch thing is and if I can get it
Team is crying out for Marcus Rashford. Big mistake leaving him out.
I think we need to give the whole squad minutes, even 20 minutes during the group. Make every player feel like they are contributing, build the squad mentality.
This is the bonus of both an opening win, the other 2 teams in the group drawing and the format of the competition. We're essentially already through if we avoid defeat in the next game.
The use of all three sub windows for just 3 subs was maddening yesterday.
The problem was tactical rather than to do with personnel… the system and players were great for the first third, then when Serbia changed things to counter us, we did nothing. Why Watkins and Gordon/Eze weren’t brought on early in the second half to pin them back a bit I have no idea…
A point that isn't talked about is Jude trying to go it alone too often - not playing in the likes of Foden.
It seems like he just got carried away a bit and needs to remember he's not the only one on the pitch.
I noticed a few times where Serbia stuck up to three players on Bellingham - if Jude had passed quickly, that's basically three Serbians out of the game, and that has to be good for England.
His man marked like Saka... What England need is Gordon, so TAA can change direction or thread passes through or start a counter attack
Love Bellingham but he drifted after his Goal.
I have to admit I feel way different from yesterday after watching France today. They were bang average but I still see them as favourites. Maybe we should be being less harsh on England.
Love your analysis but that first segment on Foden illustrated the opposite to what you were trying to show. Foden doesn't pass the ball quickly when Bellingham is free of his marker meaning Bellingham can only recycle the ball. Foden consistently played much more slowly than he should have (strangely Trent did the same) when he's normally an accelerator of the game.
I really like the way Crystal Palace play and the way they use two 10s. Do we really need a left footed left back or can we have Gordon and Saka just helping the back 3 when needed? The main thing against Serbia though, was everyone moving towards the ball wanting the ball to feet
I’ve always been more of a Southgate defender, but I am worried this tournament will pass us by. And the one thing that I just do not understand is his aversion to substitutions. It’s a group game, get fresh legs on, mix it up, rest players, what is worst that can happen?! I understand it more in a knockout game where you could find yourself in extra time, but in the groups, we’ve got to be using 5 subs, and most before 70 minutes as a matter of course. Otherwise we’re leaving one of our biggest advantages- squad depth - literally on the bench.
Holy thats its a long one today
Shaw holding the width is not the fix all issue people think it is. He's not that suited to receiving high and wide, plus he's brilliant in build up deep on the left
So… Bellingham put in a MOTM perfomance & scored a goal, but it’s his fault that Foden played shit? Wow.
Fodens situation reminds me a bit iof when Marco Reus debued in the german national team (if memory serves correctly, it was also a EURO). He did his (young) Reus-things and it had zero impact, because his team mates - in the national team - werent quick/witty enough to understand what he was actually trying to set up. He was simply playing too smart and fast for the rest of the team.
Foden has had his experience playing with the England squad and under Southgate. He is just a system player, who can’t do anything out of Pep’s City. He has more caps than Saka and Jude but they don’t seem to have any problem. It’s just excuses now for him.
@@NorthLondonForeverCOYG Well, Bellingham is the best english midfielder/player since ..uh..when? We are talking about a generational talent here.
And Saka, while undeniably a very good palyer, has a bit simpler "working orders" than Foden.
Is Foden more used to a system at City, than Bellingham in Real, where Carlo is known for doing basically the exact opposite of Pep? 100%.
Does that mean that the points made in this video are not valid? nope.
Not sure Trent worked. Not enough space to get over the top and really needed his position to be quick on the grass to capitalize in transitions. Would rather Gallagher vs the hardest teams. Maybe Trent vs Denmark thou
Groups for Trent, RB sub in knockouts
Trippier couldnt play the ball forward because Foden was allways in the middle.If you played Gordon, the pases firwatd would have happened.Allso Trente would find Gordon wide stretching the game
Listening to Fabregas on one of the channels the other day and I think he had it spot on. Foden has to find his place/role in the team, he needs to make it happen in the same way that Bellingham writes his own script. At City Foden plays in a system for England he needs to be brave and show his quality.
Great analysis James! Glad you've noticed that Rice and some of the other right footed players in the team never play balls down the left. Overrated players but i still think a top manager would win something with England. We've got good players with some frightening atributes
Bellingham had to play 10 for the Serbia game because Foden would not have dealt with the physicality. Kane has gotten off so lightly his work rate was so bad but we dont play aggressive enough to keep him in positions where he is effective. We need to trust in players like Gordon (over Foden on LW) and Mainoo/Wharton (over Trent). Just play the players who are best in those positions, this isn't the time to be playing Trent in his 4th midfield game ever, or putting Foden on LW when direct wingers are needed because most teams negate the centre of the pitch and we dont have the quality/bravery to ping a ball in to Bellingham's feet in the pocket.
you blame trippier but at the same time i feel he went further down the left flank than foden did
I wouldn't exactly call scoring the only goal and dominating the midfield as "no impact" though
Doesnt have to be the whole 90, but a few times in the game I'd like to see Foden and Saka swap wings. Trent and Walker provide the width for Foden to come inside and not get in the way of Bellingham, while Saka can stay wider and provide a genuine left foot. He'd also run in behind so Trent can find those diagonals he wants to play. Yes it slightly sacrifices Saka after he had a great game, but it seems a lot more balanced.
England are never going to play like Man City so how can we build a team around a player who has only ever been coached in one system and clearly shows a lack of versatility at this moment of time?
Thank you for not just joining the pile on. I'm glad someone out there recognises he wasn't getting the ball because Rice isn't as quick to spot the progressive ball as a Rodri or Gundogan who Foden has played with at City.