I'm glad he stopped cheating out of his own conscience. This is what makes him different from Schmooey and Ian. They both cheated shamelessly and only "felt bad" about it after they were caught. That being said it's a real bummer that Ornej speedhacked his FCs. This will tarnish his reputation forever.
Man I thought ornej was sick. Those (fake) FCs were really inspiring to me and made me work harder. It's a shame. Thanks for making these videos. They make me feel much better about my skill knowing that I haven't cheated.
Or nej was a victim of trying to keep up with the absolutely genetic players that become popular around that time (Ian and Schmoo being the big two i can think of). Before that time, Or nej was just a really good, clean tapper, but nothing crazy. He clearly felt washed up and wanted to show people that he was fast too. While unsurprising, its a shame he was cheating, because in my opinion is is a top 3 tapper. Him, Drowsee and frif are the only OG hyper-good tappers still playing today, and its a shame that he resorted to cheating to show how good he is. In my **Opinion** , this is the result of the community over valuing fast, messy, slide spammy play, and undervaluing good clean tapping. I guess that would be disproved when we see some non-tappy players caught cheating
agreed, with the 3 main cheaters caught (schmoo, ian and ornej) all being known as "messy but fast" tappers it makes sense. still can't believe that we live in an era where leafgreen of all people is one of the cleanest players
@@ThinkAboutVic But ornej isn't one of those. Hes actually insanely clean and always has been, but started slide spamming because of the trends. Schmoo was clean too. Just look at the ghost inputs in or nej and thonks runs of any song like archWks hell and drunken 2, the difference is unreal. I do also love that leafgreen is one of the clean players now though lol no one saw that coming
@@conjae "a victim of (insert something)" Is a pretty common phrase. I'm not saying that we should pity him, I'm sharing my thoughts on why I think he cheated
@@mtlcatgrl obviously feel free to disagree, but for me it means that he isn't just "sorry he was caught", it means he's legitimately sorry he didn't really hide it either, having mentioned it several times in different places, even literally shouting it in jaredcord vc at some point not his fault no one took him seriously and chose to believe him still lol i do agree it could've done in a better manner, however
@@GoulartGH I don't why cheaters apologizing all of a sudden makes you think that they should be forgiven and 99.9% of the time it was after they were exposed anyway so it was most likely not a real apology and even if they do apologize before it probably isn't geniune
the comedown from the adrenaline high of this bandwagon is gonna suck hard when all the people clowning him remember that a lot of the FCs he didn’t fake are still infinitely better than a lot of them could ever hope to achieve crabs love the barrel that is the CH scene
don't think there's something ornej could've done to prevent the effect described in the video, it's just the nature of speeding up footages whilst retaining the frame rate i'm glad there's a consistent way to catch that though
@@GoulartGH it's incredibly easy to prevent once you're aware of the cause of the problem though. It's only consistent if other cheaters repeat the same mistake
@@GoulartGH There absolutely are ways to combat the issues he was having. I'm not going to describe them here, but anyone with basic video editing knowledge past simply wanting to splice would be able to
@@Zackuloid _via editing_? i know it's possible to change the framerate on OBS to ensure it becomes a perfect 60FPS video once sped up, but (and I might be wrong) i don't think it's possible to do it on the video editing software after having a 60FPS footage to play with
I kinda figured this was the case when I saw all the videos unlisted a while back. Was trying to find some kind of confirmation on twitter or something, thought it may have been another Ian situation where he was just nuking his channel again, but glad I know what happened, and I gotta say, I'm not really surprised. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times? Nah, not happening. Wouldn't be shocked if it turned out Thonk or another top player was a cheater
Non cheating players who looked up to these schmooey type players and practice everyday to eventually be on that level stand up plz 🐐 we’ll get there one day. #illnevercheat
@@Dimmlix he already was banned before (hence queefch existing), apparently because his scores from the screenshot era of scorespy were unverifiable (but i'm not sure, it's just hearsay)
@@GoulartGH iirc the issue with QueefCH isn't just that it was a Schmooey alt, but that it was a Schmooey/CarnyJared shared account, with both of them submitting scores through it. (at least it's what I heard from back when that broke out)
I like how you used a cheater who removed all of his videos to talk about another cheater who removed all of his videos And both now plague other peoples channels with uploads
I always had a thought that Ornej was a cheater, sometimes even just assuming it was common knowledge because of the whole overtapping shit, but the fact that he was speedhacking is the most shocking to me. Always love when cheaters get called out and helping make the community as natural and clean as possible. Thank you for this exposal!
For all the people who have been exposed for cheating in under a year, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the big bois like Acai, Randy or UKOG get exposed next. (Not for cheating of course, but for other reasons) (BTW i'm kidding)
bro cheated cheating
LEAN
@@fyighfreak hi bambam
most delicious polish food
Wheres the gif
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The fuck?
doomwrldgh
@@DoomWrldGH i miss u .;-;
But polish 😢
Damn this sucks to hear, Ornej has been around for a very long time it’s a shame he would throw all of that history away for what?
im not surprised he cheated. im just surprised that he speedhacked and how far back it went.
I'm glad he stopped cheating out of his own conscience. This is what makes him different from Schmooey and Ian. They both cheated shamelessly and only "felt bad" about it after they were caught.
That being said it's a real bummer that Ornej speedhacked his FCs. This will tarnish his reputation forever.
Man I thought ornej was sick. Those (fake) FCs were really inspiring to me and made me work harder. It's a shame. Thanks for making these videos. They make me feel much better about my skill knowing that I haven't cheated.
not shocking in the slightest given how open he is with abusing overtap software and distributing it in private discords. Thanks for calling this out!
bro used to be super public about using tinfoil too but stopped when ppl figured out what it was, every score done on his silicone kramer has foil 💀
Cry about it
@@wonky3033 bro is sitting here defending a cheater because he's too big of a hater to admit when he's wrong
keep at it bro
@@Zackuloidstop riding ur bfs hot diggity dog
@@Zackuloid who says I'm defending, I'm laughing at both ornej and frif cause both funny as hell 💀
Man’s blamed no fc ring cos of adhd 😅
Or nej was a victim of trying to keep up with the absolutely genetic players that become popular around that time (Ian and Schmoo being the big two i can think of). Before that time, Or nej was just a really good, clean tapper, but nothing crazy. He clearly felt washed up and wanted to show people that he was fast too. While unsurprising, its a shame he was cheating, because in my opinion is is a top 3 tapper. Him, Drowsee and frif are the only OG hyper-good tappers still playing today, and its a shame that he resorted to cheating to show how good he is.
In my **Opinion** , this is the result of the community over valuing fast, messy, slide spammy play, and undervaluing good clean tapping. I guess that would be disproved when we see some non-tappy players caught cheating
agreed, with the 3 main cheaters caught (schmoo, ian and ornej) all being known as "messy but fast" tappers it makes sense. still can't believe that we live in an era where leafgreen of all people is one of the cleanest players
@@ThinkAboutVic But ornej isn't one of those. Hes actually insanely clean and always has been, but started slide spamming because of the trends. Schmoo was clean too. Just look at the ghost inputs in or nej and thonks runs of any song like archWks hell and drunken 2, the difference is unreal.
I do also love that leafgreen is one of the clean players now though lol no one saw that coming
@@FalconerCH ornej aint no victim bru keep the same energy with every other cheater
@@conjae "a victim of (insert something)" Is a pretty common phrase. I'm not saying that we should pity him, I'm sharing my thoughts on why I think he cheated
@@conjae well how the tables have turned
props to ornej for admitting it _before_ being caught rather than after
means nothing if he doesnt admit publicly
@@mtlcatgrl🤓
@@mtlcatgrl obviously feel free to disagree, but for me it means that he isn't just "sorry he was caught", it means he's legitimately sorry
he didn't really hide it either, having mentioned it several times in different places, even literally shouting it in jaredcord vc at some point
not his fault no one took him seriously and chose to believe him still lol
i do agree it could've done in a better manner, however
@@GoulartGH I don't why cheaters apologizing all of a sudden makes you think that they should be forgiven and 99.9% of the time it was after they were exposed anyway so it was most likely not a real apology and even if they do apologize before it probably isn't geniune
y'all are way too forgiving to cheaters lmao
the comedown from the adrenaline high of this bandwagon is gonna suck hard when all the people clowning him remember that a lot of the FCs he didn’t fake are still infinitely better than a lot of them could ever hope to achieve
crabs love the barrel that is the CH scene
Time to go back to Guitar Flash
Agree (as a former guitar flash mobile player)
@@k4l3b04 Guitar Flash mobile is literally easy. PC is the real challenge
Most normal clone hero player
I love this video.
talent
big talent
4:20 realest real
overtap on top of speed hacking lmao
looks like 5 game inputs per physical input in some sections
it's been a blessing in disguise none of these people care to do the work to actually edit the splices and speedup properly LOL
nice job man
don't think there's something ornej could've done to prevent the effect described in the video, it's just the nature of speeding up footages whilst retaining the frame rate
i'm glad there's a consistent way to catch that though
Demons 2 wah wah
@@GoulartGH it's incredibly easy to prevent once you're aware of the cause of the problem though. It's only consistent if other cheaters repeat the same mistake
@@GoulartGH There absolutely are ways to combat the issues he was having. I'm not going to describe them here, but anyone with basic video editing knowledge past simply wanting to splice would be able to
@@Zackuloid _via editing_? i know it's possible to change the framerate on OBS to ensure it becomes a perfect 60FPS video once sped up, but (and I might be wrong) i don't think it's possible to do it on the video editing software after having a 60FPS footage to play with
dayum
We already know he's polish
Polish ppl have genetic overtap they cant controll it 😢😢😢😢
As a polish person, i am amazed, and happy
video link of the scorespy jenny wife fc?
ua-cam.com/video/uYW9RAof6gU/v-deo.html
Dang, im pretty sure he already said his mechs overtapped a bit (and its on one of his fcs on leaf greens channel)
3:08 I was suspicious of this when I saw orntage cause the webcam in solo e and f looked and sounded sped up
any first evers that need to be reclaimed?
Infinite ammo overchart
and a bunch of schmootage clips
probably other stuff I’m forgetting
sadge. iirc there have been multiple 90% speed fcs but 100% is fake ._.
Uh oh...
KNEW IT !!!!!!
🇵🇱
I kinda figured this was the case when I saw all the videos unlisted a while back. Was trying to find some kind of confirmation on twitter or something, thought it may have been another Ian situation where he was just nuking his channel again, but glad I know what happened, and I gotta say, I'm not really surprised.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times? Nah, not happening. Wouldn't be shocked if it turned out Thonk or another top player was a cheater
i thought people knew he hacked
Man
smh my head
lol. lmao.
pretty odvious from the start of orntage. Real?
and this is why I have trust issues with the community.
Yeah seems about right
at least archwk's hell hard is real
not surprising
Clone Hero.
Non cheating players who looked up to these schmooey type players and practice everyday to eventually be on that level stand up plz 🐐 we’ll get there one day. #illnevercheat
kind of says a lot when a cheating player knows more methods than you
You will never succeed
i wish the Pokemon community cared as much about exposing cheaters as every single other gaming community
You really are everywhere aren't you
bruh get tf out of here 😂
I’m so sick of cheaters in this fkin game
On the topic of the external input viewer, that's the exact same thing Schmooey's been doing in his videos on KristenFatty...
thats cuz hes banned from scorespy altho hes prob cheating too
ornej is just hiding overtap lol hes on scorespy
Cause hes banned on scorespy for the whole queefch thing, the account sharing
@@Dimmlix he already was banned before (hence queefch existing), apparently because his scores from the screenshot era of scorespy were unverifiable (but i'm not sure, it's just hearsay)
@@GoulartGH iirc the issue with QueefCH isn't just that it was a Schmooey alt, but that it was a Schmooey/CarnyJared shared account, with both of them submitting scores through it.
(at least it's what I heard from back when that broke out)
@@BlackPawn14 they was already banned, so it was ban evasion, it was also a shared account with like 4 people on it
i’m getting real bored of seeing cheaters in the clone hero community man
if you suck enough to cheat, maybe go do something else
F
where him
nah cuz when i first saw ornej, i was like, Nah that dude aint using scorespy, he a cheater, then i trusted him. For nothing
I like how you used a cheater who removed all of his videos to talk about another cheater who removed all of his videos
And both now plague other peoples channels with uploads
not that surprising tbh
well shit... who's next?
me
I mean what?
I always had a thought that Ornej was a cheater, sometimes even just assuming it was common knowledge because of the whole overtapping shit, but the fact that he was speedhacking is the most shocking to me. Always love when cheaters get called out and helping make the community as natural and clean as possible. Thank you for this exposal!
ok but he's polish
I guess infinite is unfcd 🤔 Maybe...
how hard is it to just play the game normally bruh
average poland
Human race
I had noticed the skipping effect but i thought it was a problem with the recording, i guess it becomes more sus when you already know its fake
Not surprised, just disappointed.
🤓
Same
Man this guy always told me I sux ):
bruh u have cheated too 💀
@@MLGolivia ?
@@MLGolivia i cheat everything. i splice scorespy. i use built in aimbot on my guitar.
still goated
axiom
For all the people who have been exposed for cheating in under a year, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the big bois like Acai, Randy or UKOG get exposed next.
(Not for cheating of course, but for other reasons)
(BTW i'm kidding)
whoops
@@kingleanie wait what
talent
No hax just poland