Your electronic knowledge is actually quite intricate. Major respect for you man. I guess there's a good reason behind the slower video production. Thanks for the great video.
Nice video and very informative. Its refreshing to hear a scripted audio commentary instead of hearing someone drone on about what a terrible day they are having. Please do more of these but keep it the same way, and no cats.
Wow, it looks like Siglent is moving out of the "plastic toy" business into the world of real test gear. I wonder if they will put a 2.4GHz notch filter on the output after your review. Subscribed.
Afrotechmods+ I thought maybe you discharged a super capacitor on your tongue, welcome back! Good assessment on this Siglent SDG6000X Arbitrary Waveform Generator.
Have you considered doing a build video and review of those super cheap, 30-ish dollar DIY oscilloscope kits on ebay? They seem like a fun build, but it'd be interesting to know if they're actually worth a damn for any purpose at all.
They're fun, but not very useful. If you want an actual oscilloscope, save your money and get something better. It's what I would have done in hindsight.
i understand these are generally audio frequency generators, but what about the higher frequencies? like 15mhz, 100mhz etc. does it turn into an rf signal generator? i want one but im confused on their purpose as far as the higher non audio frequencies. help!!!
I liked this channel much better when there were tutorials instead of product reviews. And for basically a hobbyist channel I can't imagine someone paying the $6K price (low side) for one of these.
I hope that you please want to answer this question: You are using a RG316 cable, I am trying to choose between RG316 and RG142 for usage like you did in this test, up to 3GHz. I do not know if the RG142 is as bendable - nice to work with as the RG316?
@Siglent / Afrotechmods Thanks for the info. I see value in product reviews from content creators like Afrotechmods and others that insist on honest, unbiased reviews. I am Jake, a simple electronics hobbyist that was motivated to start tinkering with circuits 4 years ago largely due to the efforts put into this channel and a few others. I've learned quite a bit from goofing around on my own. Personally, I have a very limited budget. I became partially disabled 2/26/14 and this was the main reason I took an interest in electronics. I am sharing this because I believe I am typical of an untaped marketing demographic that companies like Siglent would benefit from targeting using higher quality and trusted channels like Afrotechmods, EEVBlog, GreatScott, BigClive, Andreas Spiess, and Julien Lett. I'm interested in what tools I should really invest in. I have a Rigol DS1052 scope and a few good DMMs along with lots of little project testers and homemade tools. I still don't have a quality bench meter, and I am just reaching the point where I feel like I need one, and will need a few other bench test tools to see what's going on with different circuits. I am currently limited to purchases less than $500 and I'm not able to mobilize more than $100-$200 easily. I have a current need for a more reliable LCR than the open source project tools I have built. My point in writing this is to say that top notch companies like Siglent are not on my radar. I don't know how or when I should transition to my first purchases of better quality equipment. There is a wall of information that I will eventually need to tackle in order to learn about the tools and options available on the market. Ultimately this delays my interest in different companies and products much longer and probably means I will not make the best informed first purchase at some point. This probably sounds very basic, but I imagine there are a lot of people that have taken an interest in electronics because of the accessibility of information on the subject through nontraditional sources. Places like UA-cam have lots of information about the most basic beginner electronics. There are also lots of great sources for advanced information and product reviews. Personally I feel like there is a lack of information about intermediate level electronics, which coincides with entry level metrology equipment. This is the demographics point that I believe companies like Siglent would benefit from actively persuing. I need to understand what entry level products are available, and the practical side of what they can do. I need to feel like the price points are accessible, and I need to be marketed to in a way that doesn't assume I have an engineering degree or overly 'dumbed down' where it comes across as degrading. This is way out of the box marketing, but as a suggestion, look at the common open source hardware on the internet and the cost of popular entry level products on the market and help me understand why a Siglent product is a benefit and good investment for me if I were to purchase your x, y, or z. No one targets this demographic that I am aware of. Since around 2010 when the Arduino project really took off, entry level electronics have become popular with a lot more people. I'm sure there are lots of negative stigmas associated with such amateur hobbyists, but if a traditional supplier were to try to exploit this market I believe there is a lot of room for expansion, especially if a company were to also look at designing products around this audiance and it's specific needs. There are lots of potential approaches to this audiance. I think the best approach would be to get practical. Get some common hardware like an ESP32, 32bit ARM MCU, or Raspberry Pi and demonstrate the problem solving capabilities of your products using things hobbyists relate to. There are lots of advanced projects using this open source hardware. I'm sure there are opertunities to demonstrate tools for everything from ultra high frequency radio circuit design and communication to simple analogue signal and measurement issues. If the demonstrations of such things were to contribute to the community's knowledge on these popular platforms a company could also earn a lot of interest from people like myself that appreciate these types of contributions to the community. If your demonstrations highlight products competitive to both my needs and all of my available options you would certainly gain my patronage. Note: This is not intended as self promotion of any kind. This is just an observation from someone that was inspired by this channel and has stuck with that interest for several years. Sincerely, -Jake
Upcycle Electronics take a look on ebay. There're a lot of old meter and other stuff for sales up there. I would recomment HP or Advantest (Japanese brand, same if not higher quality than HP or Fluke), take a look around. I have a bunch of spare bench DMM, unfortunatelly I'm too far away (vietnam) or else I would give you a spare one for cheap. Just try your luck out there. Maybe craiglist is good too
I really found your information interesting, and I’m sure this channel will benefit from this type of honest input. I am very appreciative of people like you who find the time to enlighten us creators.
2.4GHz seems very suspicious. At a guess it's probably WiFi or Bluetooth picked up in the signal path before the output buffer/amplifier but could be just an artefact due to test setup.
That display... seems like a Chinese compatible replacement of the one used on the Sony PSP, a staple of cheap pocket video players from a few years ago.
Rigol 350 MHz => $14000, Siglent 500 MHz => $5300. Either Rigol is overpricing their equipment, or Siglent is underselling at a loss to beat competitors. Maybe a little of both ?
if you didn't buy it with your own money and expectations than there is no way your review isn't biased. if i pay $5k my expectations are really high, if someone sent it to me for free (even if i had to send it back), i would feel a lot more lenient towards it.
Your electronic knowledge is actually quite intricate. Major respect for you man. I guess there's a good reason behind the slower video production. Thanks for the great video.
HES BACK AGAIN AAAAAHH
5 years later and I have just become an electronic engineer.
Nice video and very informative. Its refreshing to hear a scripted audio commentary instead of hearing someone drone on about what a terrible day they are having. Please do more of these but keep it the same way, and no cats.
Really wish you would come back :'-(
Wow, it looks like Siglent is moving out of the "plastic toy" business into the world of real test gear. I wonder if they will put a 2.4GHz notch filter on the output after your review. Subscribed.
At $5300 USD, it's too cheap. Sorry, but I don't have any change to buy this!
1milliamp= hehe dat tickles
2milliamps= hmm...
4milliamps= ouch
8milliamps= hey! stop dat
20milliamps= yeeoouch!
50milliamps= *passes out*
100milliamps= *seizure*
1000milliamps= *dies*
>2000milliamps= *explodes*
Your back! excellent.
Also, when you are done with your review, can you send it to me for my review?
I'll promise to keep it and never send it back.
Afrotechmods+ I thought maybe you discharged a super capacitor on your tongue, welcome back! Good assessment on this Siglent SDG6000X Arbitrary Waveform Generator.
Great to see you back!
Cant go higher than 500mhz. Goes to 499mhz. #livingontheedge
:)
I have a question.what we have to do with that wave form..And frequency
HES BACK AGAIN AAAAAHH
I found this fascinating even though I don't have any use for it.
Me too!
Please do a video on signal harmonics you described in this video.
thanks
Welcome Back!
Have you considered doing a build video and review of those super cheap, 30-ish dollar DIY oscilloscope kits on ebay? They seem like a fun build, but it'd be interesting to know if they're actually worth a damn for any purpose at all.
They're fun, but not very useful. If you want an actual oscilloscope, save your money and get something better. It's what I would have done in hindsight.
Excellent content Thank you!!!
i understand these are generally audio frequency generators, but what about the higher frequencies? like 15mhz, 100mhz etc. does it turn into an rf signal generator? i want one but im confused on their purpose as far as the higher non audio frequencies. help!!!
Can you produce a TETRA signal?
I liked this channel much better when there were tutorials instead of product reviews. And for basically a hobbyist channel I can't imagine someone paying the $6K price (low side) for one of these.
Great review! Thanks!
Excellent video, very thorough.
I hope that you please want to answer this question:
You are using a RG316 cable, I am trying to choose between RG316 and RG142 for usage like you did in this test, up to 3GHz.
I do not know if the RG142 is as bendable - nice to work with as the RG316?
@Siglent / Afrotechmods
Thanks for the info. I see value in product reviews from content creators like Afrotechmods and others that insist on honest, unbiased reviews.
I am Jake, a simple electronics hobbyist that was motivated to start tinkering with circuits 4 years ago largely due to the efforts put into this channel and a few others. I've learned quite a bit from goofing around on my own.
Personally, I have a very limited budget. I became partially disabled 2/26/14 and this was the main reason I took an interest in electronics. I am sharing this because I believe I am typical of an untaped marketing demographic that companies like Siglent would benefit from targeting using higher quality and trusted channels like Afrotechmods, EEVBlog, GreatScott, BigClive, Andreas Spiess, and Julien Lett.
I'm interested in what tools I should really invest in. I have a Rigol DS1052 scope and a few good DMMs along with lots of little project testers and homemade tools. I still don't have a quality bench meter, and I am just reaching the point where I feel like I need one, and will need a few other bench test tools to see what's going on with different circuits. I am currently limited to purchases less than $500 and I'm not able to mobilize more than $100-$200 easily. I have a current need for a more reliable LCR than the open source project tools I have built. My point in writing this is to say that top notch companies like Siglent are not on my radar. I don't know how or when I should transition to my first purchases of better quality equipment. There is a wall of information that I will eventually need to tackle in order to learn about the tools and options available on the market. Ultimately this delays my interest in different companies and products much longer and probably means I will not make the best informed first purchase at some point.
This probably sounds very basic, but I imagine there are a lot of people that have taken an interest in electronics because of the accessibility of information on the subject through nontraditional sources. Places like UA-cam have lots of information about the most basic beginner electronics. There are also lots of great sources for advanced information and product reviews. Personally I feel like there is a lack of information about intermediate level electronics, which coincides with entry level metrology equipment. This is the demographics point that I believe companies like Siglent would benefit from actively persuing. I need to understand what entry level products are available, and the practical side of what they can do. I need to feel like the price points are accessible, and I need to be marketed to in a way that doesn't assume I have an engineering degree or overly 'dumbed down' where it comes across as degrading.
This is way out of the box marketing, but as a suggestion, look at the common open source hardware on the internet and the cost of popular entry level products on the market and help me understand why a Siglent product is a benefit and good investment for me if I were to purchase your x, y, or z. No one targets this demographic that I am aware of.
Since around 2010 when the Arduino project really took off, entry level electronics have become popular with a lot more people. I'm sure there are lots of negative stigmas associated with such amateur hobbyists, but if a traditional supplier were to try to exploit this market I believe there is a lot of room for expansion, especially if a company were to also look at designing products around this audiance and it's specific needs. There are lots of potential approaches to this audiance. I think the best approach would be to get practical. Get some common hardware like an ESP32, 32bit ARM MCU, or Raspberry Pi and demonstrate the problem solving capabilities of your products using things hobbyists relate to. There are lots of advanced projects using this open source hardware. I'm sure there are opertunities to demonstrate tools for everything from ultra high frequency radio circuit design and communication to simple analogue signal and measurement issues. If the demonstrations of such things were to contribute to the community's knowledge on these popular platforms a company could also earn a lot of interest from people like myself that appreciate these types of contributions to the community. If your demonstrations highlight products competitive to both my needs and all of my available options you would certainly gain my patronage.
Note:
This is not intended as self promotion of any kind. This is just an observation from someone that was inspired by this channel and has stuck with that interest for several years.
Sincerely,
-Jake
Upcycle Electronics take a look on ebay. There're a lot of old meter and other stuff for sales up there. I would recomment HP or Advantest (Japanese brand, same if not higher quality than HP or Fluke), take a look around. I have a bunch of spare bench DMM, unfortunatelly I'm too far away (vietnam) or else I would give you a spare one for cheap. Just try your luck out there. Maybe craiglist is good too
Rom Hunter Second HP on eBay.
I really found your information interesting, and I’m sure this channel will benefit from this type of honest input. I am very appreciative of people like you who find the time to enlighten us creators.
Upcycle Electronics look
Great review!
2.4GHz seems very suspicious. At a guess it's probably WiFi or Bluetooth picked up in the signal path before the output buffer/amplifier but could be just an artefact due to test setup.
Awesome test - THANK YOU Afrotechmods - but still to much coins for a hobbiest :-)
The signal at 2.4 GHz, could you be picking up wifi?
It's definitely not wifi. It's a sharp signal at exactly 2.4000GHz with virtually zero frequency deviation.
I thought Wifi too.
it's probably a clock signal , you know Cpu run at 2.4 GHz and more. and for the microwave oven. no, it's insulated from the outside.
Thought about that aswell, but with your further information, i am on your Side.
well, it is 2.4 GSa/s - so it would seem it is the clock for the DAC, or the 'sample' noise in the output.
*Hlep* [10:46] that's pretty funny.
good stuff man
Great review, that 2.4Ghz bleed through is really poor.
I would like to hear some of them ... too bad
Great
Can you review on oscilloscope
I love you
That display... seems like a Chinese compatible replacement of the one used on the Sony PSP, a staple of cheap pocket video players from a few years ago.
Rigol 350 MHz => $14000, Siglent 500 MHz => $5300. Either Rigol is overpricing their equipment, or Siglent is underselling at a loss to beat competitors. Maybe a little of both ?
if you didn't buy it with your own money and expectations than there is no way your review isn't biased. if i pay $5k my expectations are really high, if someone sent it to me for free (even if i had to send it back), i would feel a lot more lenient towards it.
480 by 272 TN panel on a 5300$ device. what in this? pixie dust? unicorn blood? what the heck makes it so expensive
nic
a PAWG
Whats an IQ-Signal?
W2AEW has some great videos on the subject ua-cam.com/video/h_7d-m1ehoY/v-deo.html
Afrotechmods Thanks.