PREDATORS (2010) Retrospective / Review
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Arnold didn’t want to “repeat himself” yet here he is stuck in the Terminator loop
He is stuck in the Terminator loop cause Terminator is HIS franchise....Meanwhile Predator has moved on with Arnold
True, @@nicklander3301, about Terminator being his franchise. It would be fantastic for a sequel to Predators (2010) to include Arnold's character even briefly.
yes and Terminator Dark Fate was an ABOMINATION! seriously what a piece of SHIT.....sooooo incredibly cringy to watch i actually skipped through half-way just to see the ending! utterly forgettable
Translation: "They won't pay me what I want".
@@nicklander3301 Yet Predator is HIS best film ever. Also, one of the best films EVER!
Fishburne's character is hinted that he was abducted in Vietnam.
He claims he is Air Cavalry, wears Tiger Stripe combat (a stable of US Special Forces in Vietnam), he also hums Ride of the Valkyries a clear nod to Apocalypse Now which featured a teenage Fishburne
Great observation
I thought the movie was finally going to get interesting when they brought him in, only to immediately kill him and forget about his character, this movie disappointing me in so many ways.
is it true that they offered the role to danny glover?
@@seeingeyegod that just suck for you. Because i love this film.
@@seeingeyegod Yeah, I'd wish they had done more with him
Totally underrated film, they should have a made a sequel to this and not made The Predator.
They should've went ahead & made this after the 1987 version instead of the one with Danny Glover or just made #2 the 3rd sequel😉
Predator , Predator 2 & Predators are all great but the rest are dire.
I disagree! Only AVP2 and the 2018 one were worse.. But this too is awful!
I still can’t fucking believe anyone thought “Let’s have the Predator want to absorb a kids autism to make itself stronger” was a good idea. Generally all the decisions surrounding the use of autism in the film were god-awful.
Agreed
"The recent Predator film by Shane Black going in a different direction" is the most generous thing I've ever heard said about that film 😅
I'm so shocked that this movie is already 10 years old, its crazy.
Same :/
we're getting old, dude.
I was 8 when it came out
Hard to believe it’s been a decade! Also, does anyone else feel this movie is better with time on its side?
@@vincentheslin9636 agreed
The sword fight with Hanzo sent chills down my spine. I loved Predators
Heavy anime vibes loved it.
Fun Fact. The alien that the group encounters and kills mid way into the film is the original predator design that was supposed to be in the first Predator movie originally played by Jean Claude Van Dam.
Dude I really should have noticed that!!!!
You sure? I thought the OG Predator design before Stan Winston came on board had a longer snout, whereas that thing in _Predators_ was a bit more flat-faced.
I actually really enjoyed this movie and thought it had some great chilling moments to it. It was a bit different, but I think they handled the Predators themselves very well. And after The Predator, I think it's aged even better. No predators using disembodied arms to give people a thumb's up. And I'm definitely in the minority, but I liked that they used Brody as the main character instead of a huge body builder as the soldier-type. He felt more natural, and just an interesting change of pace.
100% Agree. I really like it when you take a solid actor from prestige films and give them a chance to go Rambo. Brody was great!
A lot of soldiers (including special forces) aren't massive muscle bound dudes.
@@fredfredburger5150 There's heavy emphasis on running for PT over lifting, yeah. Brody is a far more realistic socom soldier than Arnold
Yeah, Brody being more of a lean type was great.
But I have to admit, as much as The Predator was a mess, the thumbs up scene was genuinely funny and had me laughing. I still think the comedic tone was not the problem with The Predator. It was just a shitty and cluttered script.
@@wjzav1971 Yeah, good point. I think a lot of the things that bugged me about that movie could have been less important with a better script and story. My biggest issue with that movie was that studio interference feeling of, "if we do another movie, the predator is so familiar and boring, how can you make him bigger and meaner than before? Can we just make a super mutant predator? Now THAT would be scary!" Granted the berserker tribe in Predators is pretty much that, too, but they still function like normal predators for the most part and still get killed about as easily. They ended up just being another type of Predator species, so it was easier to fly with.
You know, watching the montage at the end makes me realize just how awesome this movie actually is, goddamn
This movie is so underrated, i have seen movies try and fail miserably to do what this movie did.
May I ask you what this movie did? Do you mean the bad CGI or the boring characters? ;)
@@zimmer1019 This movie was one of the few Battle Royale ripoffs that didn't suck.
But yeah the characters could've done with a little more depth.
A really underrated movie. It had awesome cast, memorable characters, entertaining set pieces and fun twist to the franchise's formula. It has its flaws, but it is easily the best Predator sequel (and my personal favorite of the series, although the original is overall better movie).
Yeah I think this was a good fun movie. It is an easy watch and although it remixes a lot of elements from the original it's a damn fine ride.
Personally Predator, Predator 2 & Predators!!! Like I've said Previously after Black's Fuck Up!!! They should go back in Time & where there's Endless Ideas for A Movie!!! Or just do A Predator Movie with NO HUMANS! On ther Planet and then going off to other Planets to kill other Aliens ect!!!
It makes the biggest silliest mistake of all. Introducing the "Super predator". Like that skit from Family guy about bigger jaws.
@@daveruda Eh, personally, I think this movie downplays the "Super" part of Super Predators enough to not be too distracting. They are just slightly bigger and stronger than classic Predators, and look almost identical otherwise. Now The Predator, on the other hand, really jumped the shark when it came to their take on the concept.
predator 2 has a more interesting and developed predator and better action. the action on Predators is clunky
15:34, that scene gave me chills as she was describing Dutch and his encounter with the Jungle Hunter.
I was always curious how exactly she had so many details of something that happened so long ago. I mean hearing a story is one thing, but in this detail?!
the only thing that lets it down is that she says there was only one survivor when there were two.... you could claim classified info but then she wouldn't know about it in the first place if that was the case.
The "adventures" in the Bible are from oral tradition writen by men by God divine intervention!! So how can you trust what is said in the book?? How do they know with so mutch detail what happened a million years ago!!
Braga meant one survivor from the covert ops team. Didn't mention the rebel woman for "reasons". @@SA80TAGE
I hope Oliver never gets tired of doing these retrospectives. Fantastic as always.
Arnold: 1 predator movie
Also arnold: 6 Terminator.
Me: okay Arnold.
Sad thing is more that the Predator franchise has less shitty sequels than the Terminator.
Predator Two and Predators are decent movies. And I would even argue that AVP and The Predator have more dignity than Terminator Genysis or Dark Fate. Requiem is probably the only truly shitty movie with Predators in it.
@@wjzav1971 Terminator 1 and 2 are the only ones that happened. Nothing after '91 exists.
When he said "I'll be back", nobody knew that's what he meant
@@wjzav1971 if the Terminator franchise would just freaking commit to a sequel sequence! The next film will probably just be another direct sequel to Terminator 2 again... Possibly with a CGI'd young Arnold, because why not at this point?!
@@KonElKent Yeah, commit, but honestly, do you want to see a sequel to Genysis or Dark Fate?
Salvation is pretty much the only one where you could have made a sequel.
I saw it in the theater and I really loved it. It feels like an actual Predator movie.
This movie sucked big time and big nose Brody's acting is cringe as fuck. Hahahaha
I downloaded the movie, and I was floored how good it is.
MUCH better than AVP.
I like that the original unused predator design is in the film briefly.
And got killed like a bitch.
It isn't the original Predator design, it's actually a very different looking creature with minor similarities at best.
It's not the same creature. Not even a close design. The only similarity is that it's tall and has a thin body.
original design was much more insect like and had pincer hands.... what you see in this movie was not based on that design.
@@DarthWall275 It's clearly an Imp from Doom 3
Predators is my second favorite. Loved Adrien Brody as the lead.
Nonono
I never understood why the mercs/soldiers didnt assume the "non killer" guy wasnt put there to be their medic, seemed like a realistic assumption, given as he was a surgeon.
i was wondering that to, prolly something cut...for me watching i figured he was either a medic for them or a serial killer.....we know from this vid royce at least thought he might have been a killer.
Actual combat medics are built, though. They're expected to carry a weapon like any other soldier in addition to their CLS bag. They also oftentimes have to, in the event of a wounded soldier on the battlefield, drag said soldier to a covered position in order to perform triage on them. Take it from experience: dragging a 200+ pound dude in full battle-rattle is not an easy thing to do, especially when your adrenaline is pumping after a firefight.
@@chesterstevens8870 yes predator movies are known for how realistic and combat accurate they are.
Exactly, and it would have been so much better, the twist was so cringe ("But here, among the monsters, I'm normal. I like it here. I wanna stay.") ...
Well brody did suspect that he stood out
i remember being really pissed watching this film because of the lie in the trailer that shows Adrien Brody with dozens of Predators targeting lasers on him, on the bright side it wasn't the greatest Predator movie it was at least way better than The Predator.
You’re right about that. ;)
Not sure why some film studios would still sometimes do that.
I was actually glad that scene was not in the movie, sure it looks great in the trailer, but for a movie it would be too cheese with dozens of predators aiming at him it doesn't make much sense because he would be dead right away if that happened.
@@se4586 Agreed. Also, a small group of humans would have no believable chance against that many predators, so what's the point of showing so many laser beams. Doesn't suggest a better movie to me.
The script had a few gaps but the film played out quite good.
I enjoyed this movie a lot. It had style, good acting and great practical effects.
Plus the Kurosawa style sword fight is beautiful.
The Predator makes Predators look like The Godfather 2 in comparison.
The Predator is one of the very rare films that was so bad it made me angry watching it. I think RLM were right when they said Shane Black decided to deliberately make it as bad as possible.
That is a very confusing metaphor for any number of reasons.....😉
Legend.. Looool
30 minute retrospect on Predators? What a great start to the day
It was never gonna beat the original Predator, but a competent and enjoyable movie
Really loved this film. Loved how the old samurai sword revealed how long the predators have been hunting humans. Just has so many great moments I appreciated.
Such an underrated movie. I was so much looking forward for a sequel.This was much better than the recent Predator movie.
Laurence Fishburne: "These Predators took people from anywhere. They took me from the Matrix."
'Oh, wait. No, I think they took me from Metropolis. I remember Batman and Superman. No, wait. I remember...... Ant-Man was there, I think?'
"They took me from The Matrix."
Wait, so if they plucked him out of a simulation and into the real world, does that mean Predator is a massive Star Ocean prequel?
@@NeoConnor1nah the aliens abuducted him from FBI's behaviorle division
I always think that when the pod opens at the end of The Predator - inside should have been Royce.
That would have made the most sense over anything else and tied things in nicely.
Rumors were it was going to be Arnold but he read the script and refused
I watched this at the cinema in 2010 and really enjoyed it. I felt it got the Predator franchise back on track and would serve as a great jumping off point for future films. The Predator completely undid all that good work.
I'm grateful for your fair estimation of this movie. I liked it and thought Adrian Brody's being cast and his being 'Fast' was an interesting addition. The fact that there's a discussion between this and Predator 2 being a worthy sequel justifies its craftsmanship in my eyes.
Like this film and it is underrated but I personally prefer Predator 2.
same
Yeah I agree. The first is by far the best, but Predator 2 was still a really good movie.
Same. I'm not a huge fan of repeating scenarios and locations, and Predators to me is a straight up remake. Just instead of an elite team of soldiers, it's a group of professional killers. Whereas Predator 2 was flawed, but adding things like a bigger arsenal and crazy Gary Busey was great. I also liked King Willie, and that scene of it walking away with his head frozen in a scream gave me chills the first time I saw it.
@@ShamblesMD I have to agree!!! I also hate the fact that alot of people praise the shit out of "Predators", but completely shits all over "Predator 2". In fact, there was a rumor going around when this film was in production (or just about to be released), and Robert Rodriguez reportedly held a Q&A session about the movie. But when someone asked him a legitimate question about what his thoughts were on "Predator 2", he (Robert) supposedly refused to answer and basically skipped over the audience member.
My thoughts exactly..I enjoy this film every time I watch it but I have a soft spot for Predator 2..I grew up watching it and always loved it.
Scary that this is ten years old.
I don't understand why people are so hard on Predator 2 I really enjoyed it a lot,I really like the fact that they took it out of the jungle and put it in the city aka concrete jungle and Danny Glover was terrific..
Glover an overweight and elderly cop taking on a predator.. Hmmm.. Premise however was sound
Predator 2 took more risks than Predators and it has great looking action set pieces and the SFX still look good even today, and it really expands on the mythology, but theres just something about the storytelling, the setting and the characters that feels off.
@@connormcleod9595 actually pal, Glover was pretty ripped in this movie, as you see him without his shirt for a brief few seconds. it's only during the opening shootout in "Lethal Weapon 4" where you really see how ripped he was in the film (especially for someone in their mid-50's
@@TheThingKing probably because the dickheaded studio executives ordered the director to cut or trim scenes down to avoid being slapped with an NC-17 rating
@@connormcleod9595 he looked fit then and not elderly.
Apart from gaining 25lbs of muscle, Adrien Brody chose to reside and train in the wilderness during the film’s production in Hawaii to better get into character as Royce.
after the first two predators this is realy underrated
This was a fantastic movie. I'd vote 1st predator movie , this one and then predator 2.
when this movie came out i wasnt too keen on it. i didnt hate it but.... just didnt do it for me overall... then The Predator came out and i look back on this like a masterpiece in comparison.
I thought it was a documentary about the BBC
Hahahahaha
Sadly an entire quadrilogy or even 9 film saga would be required for that shitshow
I hate to ask it, but can you explain that joke?
Jimmy Saville.
I still love predator 2!
Me too.
I've always loved this film and thought the ambiguous story telling worked really well in its favour to create mystery and add to the Predator lore without going too far in any wrong direction. Something that has always stuck with me however, is the fact that it's almost a beat for beat copy of the movie Cube. A bunch of strangers find themselves in an alien landscape and have to work together to essentially solve the puzzle they've been placed in - it even goes as far as to have the good guy - turn bad guy twist at the end, which is the one thing about both movies I really don't like.
Really wish this got a sequel, that final shot is just perfection. It has a very similar feeling that Lost had in its mystery sci-fi storytelling.
7:52, Mahershala Ali. That man has won 2 Oscars and will play the role of Blade in a new Blade reboot, despite being 47 years old.
@Shaine White
I was going to comment on that.
A lot has changed since the film's release.
I did a double take watching it years ago during the time of Luke Cage and shocked me. Cottonmouth.
Yeah but vampire's are immortal or something.
I didn't realize the guy from Alita was in Predators until watching this video...that's good acting.
Litshttam lotion
I never thought brody could pull off a bad ass special forces type and boy was I wrong. He buffed up big time for this role. And that samurai showdown was awesome. This was like a comic to film adaptation and it was done well.
I think this is the best sequel to the Predator franchise. Cannot wait for Prey next week. Based on the trailer it may give this a run for its second spot. Thanks for video!
I’ve always thought the part of Nolan should have actually been Danny Glover reprising his role as Mike Harrigan.
Nah, he earned his right to live by the end of Predator 2 :) Would have been funny to see him with that musket, though.
And at the end of The Predator it should have been Royce comming out of the Pod instead of the flying Suitkindathing...
So, the hero cop from Predator 2 becomes a wretched bad guy in this movie? That would be a big downer
After Predator 2 when Glover gets the Gun!!! They could've gone back in the past & shown The Predators fighting The Spanish or Other timeliness!!?? Instead of The Predator!!!
@@eddysandland58 It's a story from the comics. It shows a Predator going to the 17th Century and having to team up with a Pirate who gives him the pistol.
I liked Pred 2 n i think this makes a decent pred 3. It keeps the spirit of ultimate badasses v hunter.
I felt they did a really good job with this movie, I enjoyed it a lot in 2010 and still do now. I liked the cast, especially Brody. It's a good sign of how successful many of them have gone on to be, some of the best acting talent seen in these movies. It's well cast although possibly not the Vietnam burnout Fishburne. A really good sequel which made the most of its budget. We should have had these people make another with a higher budget rather than the Shane Black disaster The Predator.
I think people complain a lot about everything, this is a good movie and a great sequel.
Your absolutely right
Yep.
I think too many people complain about people complaining
Ironic that Arnold said no to another Predator movie while a few years later reprised his role as a Terminator in an awful movie.
Also, Predator 2 is an underrated movie...the last good Predator film.
You need to rewatch Predator 2. It's pretty awful, it just happens to have some cool stuff in it. Danny Glover's character is the only one that gels and even then he's just a carbon copy of the gung-ho cop trope, Paxton is a parody of every character he'd portrayed up to that point, the Keyes subplot overburdens a weak script and takes it into pure hokey territory, the dialogue is utter nonsense delivered with flaccid conviction, the attempts at humor are cringey as all hell, and the pace is wildly uneven.
Agree!
Predator 2 is legit. I wasn't that fond of it initially back when it came out but it's easily the best sequel and the only one that does something different.
Terminator 3 is really not that bad. As a sequel to a masterpiece, it's a disappointment to say the least but it's far better than the terrible Terminator Genisys and Terminator Dark Fate catastrophes.
Predator 2 was fantastic. It injected a bit of Robocop style urban grittiness to the franchise and I found it an incredibly entertaining film. It added much to the lore as well.
The Gilman nah. I see it every year in the TV still great movie. Works like a charm.
Honestly the original predator, predators and prey are a nice little trilogy!
underrated movie
I love how it's implied that the doctor was there to keep them all patched up, but then you realise how futile that is when people are getting ripped apart, and the concept of a hunter taking along a vet to patch up the animals that get away is absurd.
I've been a fan of the original 1987 film since its release. My friends and I rewatched heavily in the 1980s on VHS and made some of us join the military. When it came time to buy movies in blue ray, i only bought three anrold Schwarzenegger films: terminator. T2, and predator. I read the comics, and I was not impressed by predator 2. However, predators is a true sequel and a master work...save for the concept of the super predators. Always mega work mate
Royce was such a badass rocking that AA-12
Really good breakdown of the film, I did enjoy this sequel. I felt only the alien dogs were a major weak point...
Yes the alien dogs seemed silly.
Agree... hated those dogs. Over-designed CGI cartoons.
Joe- And Fishburn/Roland getting Killed TO EASILY PISSED ME RIGHT OFF!!! I mean He Had The Predator Cammo Gear, he new they would be coming & he didn't Wear any of it!!!!?? A film with good ideas but was let down with the execution!!! Gutted coz if did it would of been A Much Better Movie!!!
Eddy Sandland yes there were a few things that kept it at great fun, rather than super awesome. At least it wasn’t total pants.
I think I watched this 3 years after it came out and was surprised by how much I enjoyed myself.
As a huge Alien and Predator fan, I’ve still never been able to get myself to watch the AvP movies (one day..) and assumed this would be similar.
I must watch it again soon!
Thank you for your review. This is a criminally underrated film.
Nicely done Oliver, it’s been a number of years since I last watched Predators. I missed out seeing it in the cinema as I was a bit unsure about seeing it, but I would later pickup the DVD for £2.99 in HMV and it was far better than what I thought it would be.
Yes, a well fed Laurence Fishburne really took me out of the movie.
Predator meat is very high in carbs.
Reminds me of that line he says in Mission: Impossible 3 about how he's eaten far too much chocolate over the years.
I mean I could stand to see a three or five minutes scene of him arriving totally green maybe he’s a new guy but he spends 10 or 20 years on that fucking planet and becomes a battle hardened warrior but unfortunately suffers mentally and maybe even a line spoken even if it’s off camera about how he has found a way to eat comfortably etc. I just feel like his character wasn’t done properly from the word go
I loved his performance. I actually thought it was one of the best parts of the entire film
@@bsgtrekfan88 We don't know how long a "season" is on this planet so we don't know how long he was really there
Absolutely loved this movie and Brody being cast as the 'action hero' was a good decision imo👌
It was 'okay' and it's still 'okay'.
nah fam I'd upgrade that "okay" to "pretty decent"
@@ReverendMeat51 Yeah a few notches above ok for me.
i find it decent
This was an excellent, criminally underrated sci-fi thriller. The way you uncover what’s going on as the characters do drags you in. The action’s exciting and brutal. When it ends, you want to see what comes next because you honestly have no idea. I really like Predator (1987), but I feel this is the better movie on a lot of levels.
I'm scared what will happen now that Disney have the rights to Alien and Predator.
"Predators retrospective? But that was just in the cinemas the other day, wasn't it? What, a _decade_ ago...?"
Problems with this bunch of badasses in the jungle compared to the original badasses in the jungle, IMO, is these badasses take themselves just a wee bit too seriously. Just a wee bit. Also, Adrien Brody, yeah no. This ain't no Batman '89.
Was that some Guy Davis art I saw there? I'm gonna need that DVD for those features.
This is a great movie, Royce is a bad ass and Isabel is a kick ass character. Way underrated.
Only Predators I was able to see a theaters and had a great time. I remember critics like Angry Joe complaining that it wasn't like the first one since it lacked the comradery of the original team but this wasn't that 80's type of movie, the film shows the very worst and deadliest of humanity, hence they are not going to be friends or joke, they are stone cold assassins and not being muscle men sells it well in how people are deadly without looking like stereotypical army men, especially in the case of the serial killer doctor, and realistic.
What I love even more about it is that is a slasher film but the victims are people who CAN fight back and also kill, making all of them formidable opponents for the Predator, who by this point in the series had already degraded to slashing teenagers in the awful AVP:Requiem. Really bummed out it didn't live up to Fox's expectations and didn't got a direct sequel to it.
Not only that, but why would Angry Joe even expect comradery? In the original movie it was there because they were a TEAM, they had trained and fought together. These guys in Predators just met each other.
The thing I can really give to this film is that it knew what made the original movie scary
My personal favorite Predator film - criminally underrated. Thanks, Oliver!
I like AVP. Especially Sanaa Lathan. And it has one of my favorite movie quotes.
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Comparing Condoms with Guns: "I'd rather have one and not need it, then need it and not have one."
🤣🤣🤣
I swear, the trailers you make for the beginning of your videos are better than the actual trailers for the movies.
I really liked the premise of the movie, there was bits I loved but overall it didn't hit the mark. Adrian's bat voice didn't work.
Agree.
As far as I'm concerned, this is the second best Predator film - behind the original of course. Yes, the lying trailer really pissed me off... but ultimately this was a satisfying and fun throwback to the original and I love that they did so much practical FX work. It's a pity this film wasn't the one followed up on and we got Shane Black's god-awful attempt a few years ago instead.
One would think that of all people, Shane Black would be able to deliver a solid Predator flick... but man, what a disappointment!
I vaguely remember the sequel comic being kind of interesting. I'll need to track it down online...
I honestly think Shane black was so pissed off at the studio he purposely made the film shit. It’s the only way I can fathom him making such a bad movie.
@@Bloodynine606 why was he pissed
@Toby Williams nonsense
For me personally Predator 2 is still a better sequel than Predators. I just love Predator 2, yeah it's not as good as the first film but its good in it own right, it gave as something new and a new character to root for and same cool design for the Predator, I didn't have many problems with Predator 2 I think it's highly Underrated to this day. The funny thing is , even tho Predator is overall a better film I think I have seen Predator 2 way more than Predator.
Predator 2 did something different while staying true to the original look and feel of the movie. While Predators seems more like an homage to the first movie and mostly just copy its formula. Also wasting Lawrence and up the stakes with a "super predator". How silly was that?
The throw back music at the end should have been the opening shot. With them falling from the sky. Would have been sick
I always assumed during a "season" there were drop offs every day. As apposed to the "off season" with no drop offs making it harder for nolan to scavenge...
I've never figured out what I thought about this picture over the years, but I'm glad you got around to covering it.
The heat vision of the original had a "scary" factor to it, the new feels clean and ummm, nothing.
Yeah. The original thermal vision and technology of the original felt very gritty and heavy with how clunky and glitchy it appeared. It felt very unnerving to think of what was watching our protagonists in the jungle. As time went on this advanced technology stopped feeling heavy. Now it feels like this clean marvel movie instead of horror experience.
Arnold 90s-00s: i dont want to repeat myself
Also Arnold since then: 3 more terminator movies
p.s anyone else get the feeling they tried to homage the red JCVD predator design via the "prey" creature re: 17:01, 25:08?
nah it wasn't the same design, the JCVD design had an insect like head that protruded forward, and had a pincer-like hand. The Prey creature looked nothing like that.
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Another great review!
I only saw Predators once on release, still feel like it sits behind Predator 2 but may give it another watch now.
Love John Debney, he turned in a wonderfully cinematic score for the (much-maligned, mostly underrated) PS3 game Lair.
Do The Predator! 😂
pretty underrated movie in my opinion also really liked adrien brody in this movie and he did a good job in my opinion, big fan of his movies and i think this is one of his best.
By the way, you should really check out Nimrod's movie Kontroll, if you have the chance. It's dark, it's funny, it has a powerful message about self-isolation, it has an atmosphere so strong I never seen anything like it since then, and the soundtrack is just brilliant. Really worth watching, no wonder Rodriguez was so impressed by it.
I really liked AVP1 quite a bit. I think I may be the only one. *sigh*
I actually love the first AVP. It isn't a masterpiece, but it's fun (unrated cut is my preferred version). As for AVPR, there is no AVPR. It never happened.
i dont know why people hate avp1. i personally love it as a fun monster vs monster film.
Don't feel bad, I enjoyed Babylon A.D. With Vin Diesel. 😂
I love it :)
By far the best predator sequel
I always enjoy your videos Oliver
If they tweaked a few details it would have made for a more enjoyable movie -
Have Laurence Fishburne’s character come into the story earlier, acting as a mentor to the group and explaining the situation and the group initially disbelieving him.
Drop the explanation from Isabel about the first film. Seems so random her character would know this.
Have the group find out that there is a ship that will take them off the planet if they can make it though the preserve and the predators (sets up a ticking clock and gives the group a more specific goal while providing more tension).
Have Topher Grace’s character twist be at the midpoint - the team sets up a trap only for Topher’s character to kill one of the team and have the predators get the jump on them.
Also - HAVE THE PREDATORS USE THE DAMN TREES!!!!
It’s just dudes in rubber suits running around on the ground and slamming into each other. Wouldn’t it have been cool for the two predators to fight using stealth in the trees, all cloak and dagger?
Dude you should have produced this movie 👍
The broad is israeli.. israeli intelligence WOULD have this info..both due to their own networks and American Intel "sharing"
john murdoch so everyone in Israeli intel is briefed on a hostile alien threat that occurred in a Central American jungle in 1987 when its circa 2009/10? And this one sniper just happens to wind up on a planet run by this same hostile alien race?
It’s a bad exposition dump because the filmmakers have to somehow get Adrien Brody’s character in mud by the finale without repeating how it was done in Predator ‘87. If you just had Laurence Fishburne’s character deliver it, you know, the guy who’s BEEN ON THE PRESERVE for a while, and has observed these things, it would make more sense and flow better.
I have to admit, I wasn't a big fan of Adrian Brody in this movie, but he has kind a grown on me.
And the idea of having your action-stars be more tough and lean instead of hulking muscle monsters is a nice touch.
I actually really like this one. I think the whole thing is done really well as an homage to the first film
It's a lot less campy than Predator 2 (which I still enjoy)
Way better than both AVP flicks
And leagues above Predators
I think it's underrated.
Oliver, your retrospectives are always the highlight of my day when you put them out.
Predators, a mostly worthwhile sequel held back by its similarities to the original and wasted potential with characters. It's not on par with the original, but I would have taken a follow-up to this any day over 2018's The Predator. Massively disappointing direction for the franchise.
i think without Adrian Brody the movie itself would have suffered the same fate.
Predator 2 was better.
I actually liked the cast for the main character. He is still a bit of the stereotype via writing, but tuned down a bunch so he feels like a real person who has had a rough life with a rather particular occupation, and one that is capable of using his brains not just his body. The acting actually transmits that. Still on a more stoic kind, but one that doesn't shun using his brains. In a way, I think he works just as good as Arnold's character, who actually seemed like an actual person including using his brains, in spite of the cliches and stereotypes and "look at how big these guys' muscles are" gimmicks.
the predator 1 & 2 films are some of my all time favorites and this one was worthy of more praise when it was first released. I think now, with retrospectives like this, the film can get the respect it deserves. I'm ashamed of all the other Avp/ predator entries lol
The Predator was god awful.
I love the credits music, Oliver. I got nostalgic vibes for videogames in my youth, even though I don't recognise it! Great video as always
I find I return to Predator 2 more often than any of the rest even the O.G.
The first time I saw it I was an 8-9 year old kid, messed me up so bad and I loved it lol
Underrated and fantastic predator film! I wanted this to get a sequel!
Say what ever You want about it, that samurai showdawn was great
Seriously? That was the worst. Let's make a cheap Billy scene knock-off with Clumsy Predators and Samurai's
Samurai Shodown for Neo Geo is great..
i still rate that as one of the best opening scenes of all time. great movie -i love it- but i felt the whole of the rest of it struggled to match that opening shot.
Thank you for doing this retrospective, Oliver. You're the best. I love your videos. This is the best sequel to Predator (1987), in my opinion. It's very enjoyable. I have a little brother named Oliver, just like you. 😁
This movie is a gem, im so happy with this movie
I thought it was Underrated
Big agree
i thought it was undersexual
Excellent retrospective. Thank you Mr Harper.
I don’t think the action set pieces in this movie are too great. They are serviceable and entertaining enough. I still like the movie a good bit though. Not as much as the original two movies. I love Predator for being a masterpiece, and I love predator 2 for nostalgia reasons, knowing the movie has problems and is critically panned. It’s ok to love bad movies.
30:44 " HUNT MY SLICK RICK!!!" Classic 🤑