Thumbs up for simplifying hedging. Usually every where one can see closing down profitable position and doubling down loosing one and average out. This is opposite and reduces risk significantly. End to End example where gap increases significantly like 200-300 plus pips will be helpful in addition to V shape reversal.
Yes! I’m so glad you see the reduction of risk. This is my main priority. Video coming soon with more explanation on trading from the inside!!! Thanks for the comment, really appreciate it!!
Ironically, you're such a "Chad" for coming up with and sharing this. It's truly brilliant. I really appreciate it, you're a pleasure to listen to, thank you. There's one thing I'm not understanding, about unrealized loss. If the hedge position is 30 pips away, and your take profit is 40 pips away, the drawdown would be 70 pips. But then you add another 30 pip buffer for a chance to get a clean trade. But if it triggers then your next take profit would be another 40 pips away. Each trade essentially would add another 70 pips. If you're able to reduce it by 50% the first time, the distance has doubled and left your unrealized loss the same as it was. In this case, is the unrealized loss only addressed by Inside trades? Either by using a portion of what you'd pocket, or by clean inside trades (or squeezing inside trades). But with less units on the inside, it seems like it would be a long grind to offset the unrealized loss. Then that inside hedge may eventually become as wide as the outside one, with less shares at your disposal to do another inside hedge inside of the inside hedge, lol. I get that it's unrealistic for the chart to trade within your hedge that long, but trying to understand. Thank you again. Best regards.
Maybe consider hedging at the market or say 10 pips. For your style this may work better. The bones of the strategy are to take profits and trim losses. You can totally change the spread to fit your style!!!
@@theforexhedge already moved it to 10:30 before I began. Was going to mention it to you, but later saw you were experimenting with 10:30 also. Btw, how is that going? I know you do the CAD, personally I’m doing it on the EUR/USD … but wondering if the lower volatility of the CAD, makes it more likely to get a clean trade even with 10:30. Trading aside, hope all is great. Genuinely.
Hi again!! I have some questions for you that might also help you as well. 1. At 6:50 mark, why don't you just enter the short hedge immediately? Why add additional 30 pips? Your long position is already in drawdown. So, if you add 30 pips to its down side, isn't this working against you? 2. Is there a difference if you use a larger pip size as your take profits? I see you typically use 40 pips. But, would the end result look the same if you used, say 100 pips for TP? Or would that actually negatively impact the initial long position by creating a huge disparity between the two hedged positions? Thanks!!
Great Questions!!!! 1. I like to let them breathe in hope of being able to squeeze them. Trimming and squeezing is a great combination to make some profit, reduce some risk, and narrow the hedge!! 2. I love it when the market moves way beyond my 40 pip target. This is a range....my favorite is when it spikes and you get 80, 90 or more pips in profit. really trims the hedge!!!
I've also been hedging and this looks great. It's a great way to trade as long as you're not chasing gigantic profits. But now with prop firms, you can get big accounts and stick to making ~2% month low risk. Game changing! Slow and steady is the way.
Sir, Your wisdom is great--my question is how to slow down too many orders on volatile pairs eg-- gbp/aud, gbp/jpy, eur/nzd where reversal/hedge order has to be about 50 pips out and so profit has to be around 100 pips otherwise commissions eat up any edge/profit. Volatile pairs run & run in front of your eyes & hedge orders keep on getting hit & process becomes big project in itself. We need your wisdom.
I trade volatile pairs like euraud, gbpjpy and xauusd From my personal experience, If you want a smaller buy/sell stop, you can set your buy stop at the consolidation above your sell trade using the 5 minutes chart, or you can set your sell stop at the consolidation below your buy trade using the 5 minutes chart Note that they can still be easily triggered How you release the hedge depends on your interpretation of the charts
Can finally hedge with knowledge of an exit strategy, thank you very much. Great video and the first content provider too not ask for the thumbs up or subscribe and that was the first thing I did. Thanks again.!
In this example when you are inside the hedge your position goes straight to the take profit so you can trim the outside long position, but i wonder what would you do if that position gets hedged too, how do you decide which ones you will trim in this case? Keep up with these nice videos!!
You saved my life, this video is EXACTLY what I needed. I spend countess hours trying to find it something about it. Man, I can't thank you enough. I hope you the best, thank you very much for the knowledge. God Bless. Subbed
thanks for your videos. I have been a fan of Grid, hedge, and martingale for a decade and lost a lot in this so far. You have a genius idea but still need clarification on the edge of your strategy.
Thanks for the video, I`m currently trading a good strategy and hedging but didn`t know how to trim the hedge until I saw your video, thank you so much for the information, I`m now starting to apply it in my account to bring back my liquidity.
Allow me to clarify traders who operate outside the USA, it is a completely constructive comment and I think it will help many traders. As far as I know, there is a big difference (or advantage) in hedging outside the USA (correct me if I'm wrong): I operate with an Australian broker with 1:500 and when opening two opposing positions in the same pair and same account , the margin returns to zero (free margin). If the price moves away, for example, 3k or 10kpips, I can continue to open new positions with the entire balance available (- the difference between the two positions which will be negative) to operate, that is, there is no blocked margin reducing my equity and % margin. In my case, it pays more to keep the positions open for as long as necessary until the price returns to breakeven and then make decisions (or close or manage price reversal). In the USA, I think there is no way to reset the margin by opening a contrarian position and then it makes a lot of sense to trim the lots that were left behind, in order to open up more margin for new operations. I hope this help some of you. By the way, thank you for your videos and attitude!
Thanks a lot for the wonderful content. I am still trying to get my head around your strategy. I have watched some of your videos multiple times now. Quick question - At the end of the video you added a 11,275 unit position in order to bring the two outer positions in balance. How do you trade from that point onwards? Do you assume the outer orders are perfectly hedged and start trimming from the inside? But isn't that bringing you back to where you started when you had two outer positions of 29k units each? They will never get closed as they keep get balanced?
Very nice video and well explained. I liked you calculator too. however you didn't take into consideration broker fees/commission. Most brokers take commissions on close and open of any trade and it is also related to the size of your trade. I would be curious to know how did you manage that and will this method still works?
Hello Sir. I wish to thank you so much for this very interesting strategy. I was looking for a low risk hedging strategy for quite a long time but i found it today. Just one question. What currency pairs you had the most success using this strategy?
Great question!!!! All of them work. But I have found the USD/CAD and the GBP/USD seem to be my favorite. I like a little faster movement. The EUR/USD works really well, it just moves less pips each day.
vary similar to what i was doing ...but i had no history or guidance so i cut the experiment short but i have to say that its a great cash flow solution ...because your making cash as you wait for the trend to change in your favor... so if i made 4000 and was losing 4700 ...not so bad as its a matter of time before it goes my way ....HIT and MISS BABY HIT AND MISS sometimes we get a hit
I've only started hedging this week, thankfully very successfully so far. I think this will add an extra layer of security for me so thanks very much for sharing :)
Nice video. good job. I have a question. when we do build from inside, what if the price goest to a range market and takes both orders and continue ranging? what should we do then?
I'm using hedging strategy to but one thing that didn't come into my mind is to trim the lossing side as win you on other the side and I was like OMG!! that strategy really makes sense I was mind blown dude ahahahaha. Anyway thanks for this and will continue to support your channel I may learn more about hedging.
@@theforexhedgesame here, I just lost of money while hedging, because I didn’t know how to get out. Immediately I saw this video it was the last missing puzzle. The idea is genius.
This the most awesome technique of earning money by hedging and squeezing the hedge. But how to calculate the squeezing? Plz provide the formula. It will be really helpful for your subscribers.
Good morning ! I have watched this video several times and have tried to do the calculations myself as the video progressed, and finally I understand every bit of your strategy, along with how much risk is involved , etc... and after all of that I still think this is an unreal strategy lol!!! Now, I know that you have gone a long way to find out the best combination of the elements in your strategy, meaning, trading specifically the USDCAD, leaving 30 pips buffer zone before you hedge, risking $10 per pip, keeping the buy and sell orders balanced all the time, banking only 1/1000 of the winning position and applying the rest to reduce risk, reducing the outer positions first... etc... Having said all this, have you done the exercise of not leaving the 30 pip buffer to wait for entry, but instead entering immediately after you close the winning position? .... this will eliminate the squeezing and will give you more "hedge trims" which is what ultimately makes you money. I would love to hear your thoughts on that. Thanks again for sharing your experience. TZ.
How do you trim the hedge and how do you also put some money in your pocket, where do you go to make these adjustments on your chart. I'm new to this style of trading
Also, a follow up question. Would it perhaps be more profitable to not get some profits along the way, but to use all of the hedge profits to close up the opened position in drawdown. Here is my logic. Say you have a long position that's in heavy drawdown of $3000 so you open hedges, squeeze them, work them, etc. And you keep exiting at profits on those hedges but you keep some money and you use the rest to close the drawdown. However, you increase the number of needed trades to close the drawdown because you aren't using all hedge profits to close it, so more trades requires more commissions, swap fees, etc. On the other hand, if you used all of the hedge profits to close the drawdawn, you would get all of the profits anyway at the last hedge that has higher profits than what remains of the drawdown. For example, if you are $3000 in drawdawn and you close it with say 3 hedges. First hedge 1700, second 800, third 1000, totaling $3500. You anyway get all of the hedges profits above the initial drawdown value with less trades. I don't know if what I am saying makes sense. But, I would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks!
Great question, I love that you're thinking of ways that you can apply it. I agree, you can wait and take profit later, or take some along the way. I prefer along the way. For one big reason, no pressure to get flat. Getting flat is not my goal.... If you have not watched this video it might help out on this concept... ua-cam.com/video/IlFnjHJRCOo/v-deo.html
Hi thanks for the great and concise videos. Not to long videos works great and you are clean in explanations thanks. I have 2 questions if I may. 1- I was wondering if you ever tried not to close the hedged position when you reach the TP area, but let it run and still trim the value of the outside hedge as it goes in favor, only close if it starts to reverse? 2 - Why do you reopen at a 30 pip distance from previous position, why not closer or even at the closing price from the top ?
Hey. Great questions!!!! 1-I will let the position work beyond 40 pips if it’s moving. But I never trim without closing. This is a hard rule for me. 2-I always have a stop order in at 30pips. Closet thank 30 it seems to be to right and gets picked up to fast. I don’t want it at the closing price because I want to squeeze as much as I can. Hope this helps!!!
@@theforexhedge thanks for the feedback. I havent seen all the videos im still trying to fully understand the hedging from the inside, sometimes i get a bit lost with the meaning of the terms because english is not my language . I like these videos better then Nick Shawn, keeping them short is key. Thanks
Thank you!! I agree, shorter videos for the win!!! here is a "longer video" on working the inside. you dont have to watch the whole thing, but it may help you understand working the inside!! ua-cam.com/video/IlFnjHJRCOo/v-deo.html
Hi, really enjoyed this video. I am thinking of implementing this strategy. Just want your guidance on sizing. If you have a £30k account , what would your initial size be on a trade and what was the worst drawdown % of your total account size you have experienced? Have you ever blown an account using this system before mastering it? Thanks
Amazing job! Finally someone covering hedging :) a video that covers managing multiple inside hedges would be awesome. What percentage of your account would you allocate to your opening position since you are essentially locking in drawdown?
Hey, great question. I think around 20% per side needs to be allocated. This may be different for everyone though. we all have different leverage. in the states I have 50:1 or 20:1 depending on the chain. that makes a big difference on how big your position can be
trimming the hedge solve a lot of things on my strategy. but I think your strategy will be worthless for the small accounts (less than 1000$), am I right? can you make a video to explain how exactly to use this strategy, because it seem impossible to me to trim the position and open another one in the same time without bots. what trading platform you use?
Nobody is making you use a full lot size for your trades. The strategy is the same regardless of trade size. You just have to adjust your expectations a bit. For instance, if you're going to use a mini lot as a starting point, you can't realistically expect to trim 100 bucks out of a single trade when hedged unless you're trading on a very large timeframe or a currency pair that easily ranges for 200 pips a day.
I'm a programmer and have once attempted to code a similar logic but there were scenarios that were very tricky... funny enough you've left out those scenarios in your video as well. Like you said this is a lot of wok when done manually. If you're 100% sure about your strategy please reach out or leave your contact details and we'll automate it. you'll test every iteration until we get it right. not looking to sell it. just automate it to make my trading life easier... (just a passion, I automate everything). let me know if you're keen. it's gonna be fun.
Great video. I like the trimming method, had not thought about that. It sure seems a lot of work though to try and get back to a smaller loss/small profit rather than having a tight stop loss and decent RR in each trade. What is your average monthly profit and RR using this method? cheers
Great question. I get around 3-5% return each month. I agree, if you could call the market correctly all the time, and only have an occasional loss. Traditional trading is the way to go. I am not that good at call the market. So, this allows me to NOT be correct. I just have to manage the hedge. And you are 100% correct, it is a lot of work!!!
Great video! I'm now trying this in a demo account for the first time, and have just completed my first trim. Could you please make a video that talks about how you chose 30 pips as the entry distance for the hedge and 40 pips as the target profit, and also maybe some basic fundamentals like sensible capital amounts for the volumes used and typical returns to expect. Also, aside from getting the trim wrong (as in your other video), what other things can go wrong in the hedge that beginners should look out for? Thanks!
Hey Thanks!! appreciate the comment. the 30 pip hedge and 40 pip profit came from trial and error. Feel free to play with that on your own, make sure you find something that works for you. This is where I found the most success! As far as other traps and/or mistakes. Well, you saw it live and thats about the only one I have found. Capital is hard to recommend, so many variables. ie. leverage, where you live, what chain you are trading....etc.
I prefer the EURO and the CAD. But I think you could use this on the pair of your choice...you just might have to adjust the 30/40 pip and/or your margin to work with that pair!!!@@chint8215
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on this. If managed correctly, why would you need to call it quits? If you have a scenario, or a timeframe on a market. Please share it with me, I'd love to backtest it. @@chint8215
Thank you very much for your valuable information. Quick question, can i still make money if i don't trade from the inside and I only focus only trimming?
Hi again. Your technique is amazing . just asking what if there is original long position and the market goes down then the hedging short position start.. what if the market continues to drop down and down and down lets say up to 2000 points .. in this case i think there must be a solution in which we must do another hedging outside the original hedge.. do u agree?
So my main issue is what do you do when you set a hedge order, and then the hedge just gets caught on a wick, and price starts going back towards the original entry? Just close in the middle for a small loss?
@@archiebrymah7891 It is not done yet. I have not done anything new, so no new video. I was hoping to trim it today, but it just did not get far enough in the money. So, we wait. Patience!!!! As soon as there is new activity, I'll get a new video out! Stay tuned!
Hello. Thanks for the great video. May I ask which broker do you choose and what is your lot size. In my place there is only micro lot size, 1 pip equal 0.1 USD which makes the hedge strategy only available for account large enough like 1000$ or 10000$.
This is a great video - I’ve just signed up to a hedging strategy course but find your explanations really easy to follow and reinforce my current knowledge. Great content. Can I ask what your name is??? Thanks
What about a case where it hits the first sell stop but then reverses and continues upwards. Or say a much more ranging market than the strong trends you showcases
Are you waiting for price cross? If so then false break will enter position which is not confirmed by closed candle. Or if you wait for price close then you can't limit the 30/40 pips .theoretically it is working but running EA won't work.
Hi, thanks for all of your videos. I was just wondering, I have a hedge on with an 80 spread between buy and sell orders, I know I must be able to trim this, do I need to wait till one side is 80 pips in profit before trimming or is it possible to start trimming from 30 pips in profit?
Great video series mate, looking forward to further videos. Ive been using hedging in my trading instead of a stop loss for about 4 weeks now, but in a slightly different way. I had a quick look on forex tester today on some old GU data using your approach, this was a buy trade, sell hedge was triggered, price kept dropping and every 40 pips I closed the hedge, trimmed the buy and reset the hedge, but tbh it just kept capitulating over several days, to the point where my original buy was down to micro-lots with big drawdown so couldnt really trim any more off, and not much inside opportunity, although im guessing there will be a way round this. Would be good if you could elaborate more on the different scenarios that may play out, especially when your inside trade hedges are activated. Maybe even an FX Replay video showing the flow would be amazing. Cheers mate 👍
I thought about this too. The thing is, I think if you use supply and demand or any strategy to be honest and only hedge losing trades,you would be in profit.i mean if the price tanked like that it showed that it was trending and you possibly had an entry in the direction it was going to... I know some of my good supply and demand setups were killed by stop losses
Hey! I’m so excited you are diving into the strategy!!! Remember, you don’t have to trim at 40pips. That’s when I start to look for a trim. If the market is moving hard let it move. When it pulls back, don’t forget to squeeze it back as much as possible. Every pip counts on the squeeze. And finally, you don’t have to wait for the market to get exactly in the middle to trade from the inside. Once your lot size is down and you have margin you can open a trade anywhere in between the two outside positions. Good luck and keep me posted on your journey!
I remember you said monthly return is 5%. What is your initial lot size to begin with. For example if I have 10K usd account what will be initial lot size to target 5% return on investement.
There is no cut and dry answer for this. so many variables, where you live, what your leverage is, etc. I would just recommend starting over very small!!! you can always scale up
@@theforexhedge I agree but if I trade 0.1 lot (1:1) leverage on 10K account I am not going to get 3-5% returns. I am just trying to understand optimum size per account which you have tested for consistent 3-5% returns
I have 50:1 leverage trading with Oanda in the US. For a 10k account I personally would trade 100,000 units. And trim down from there. This is just how I do it with my leverage. Please, make sure you test this for you and all the variables in your situation. @@samirorange83
Thanks much for sharing your method, I have learned much from your videos! Any thoughts on daily financing when positions are held past 5pm EST and how this works in your trading and strategy? EDIT: Looks like trading the Loonie you pay a bit on either side (I read it incorrectly the first time).
I see your video. It's very impressive, COngrats. But whats your strategy if the price, after reaching the first step (100 units long, 100 units short, so full hedging), go long upon the buy? Thank you
Hey, Great question!!! The strategy is the same...Trim, Squeeze and finally trade from the inside. This video might help to clarify that. ua-cam.com/video/IlFnjHJRCOo/v-deo.html
Great video! Makes sense. You're a really good communicator and come across as genuine. So thank you! I can see how this can turn anyone into a profitable trader. Because if you know how to work yourself out of your losses, you could quite literally toss a coin for a entry strategy and if you win, you win. If you lose, you just implement your hedge protocol. Your rules are pretty simple and clear. It seems like you could automate this process with an EA. This would also allow you to test the long term viability of it. Have you attempted an automated approach yet?
@@theforexhedge Well that's encouraging! I'll practice this on my simulator and see if I can get it down. Thanks for contributing your time and energy. Blessings!
yes, trim the hedge down to get margin back and then when you open a position on the inside you are not increasing your original risk exposure! Great question!!!
I am wondering why you prefer USD/CAD instead of GBP/USD even though GU moves pretty fast. Do you prefer range bound pairs like EUR/GBP, AUD/NZD or high volatile like GBP/JPY which most often moves 1000 pips without retracement.
Great question. I don’t generally trade the cable (GBP/USD) because it’s 20:1 leverage. That just stinks!!! The CAD moves and I like big moves! I’m playing with the GBP/JPY, no reason not to trade it. I just like the CAD. after a while trading the same chain, I think it’s easy to get comfortable with it.
I would like to draw your attention to your narration between 15:25 and 15:45 in the video. Shouldn't you have opened the hedge of the short position side by the size of the short position? which according to the video should be 29137 units. But you opened 11275 units, is that correct?
Great video. Thanks for your really amazing information. Only one question , i am in the middle east and when you say 100,000 units or pips the only way it is in my understanding equal to 10 lot ?because I didn't understand the 100,000 .
Very Useful Video .Thanks for sharing. Im going to watch this many times as its still a little unclear at the moment. However I can see the value of hedging.
Just on Question. What if the inside Hedge puts up the Buy and the Sell Order... do you have to trimm and squeez the inside trade now until its gone and then come back to the outside? or how to do this?
So the hedging system here is holding you out of the losses, im trading high leverage like 100x, but never got to the formula like this. Its very intresting. And ill try to use that on a cross margin. That could be the nr. 1 mathematical formula to get out safe on your stucked trade. Will check that and will count. Like how much money is safe to hold and hedge the stucked position to not be liquidated by using this method. Thank you for that video. Im imprest.
@@theforexhedge Im allready tested that, and it took me from 1k to a 1.5k in 3.5 hours. And its not the point, that like you making 500$ from a 1k$. But the point is that it took me 3.5 hours all that hedge process till positions was compleyely closed. Its like anyone whos trade - knows the power when you scalping the trend direction. But 93% blowing up the wallets because of stucked positions on where they dont want to close in a loss. So Im 40 years old, and my trading expirience is 5 years. And from this year, I stop my normal job and living from the trades. My mathematical knowledge its like on the level lets say where i dont need to have a sheet wich you using on the video. I count that fast and in my head.
I dont have 100 thousand dollars can you do the same video with the amount of 1 thousand please? im wondering how much money will i save... instead of the 100$, Thank you a lot for this video too
Thank you for your video... I am beginner... I am quite lost... may you recommend me a book or document to start learning hedging step by step? Thank you
Sorry. I don’t have a recommendation. This is my personal strategy that took me years to develop. I just decided it would be fun to share. Your welcome to watch these videos as many times as you want.
You explanation was very good but may be little confusing for novice like me. If you don't mind can you elaborate more clearly from 6Min video and ahead. From There i was lost. A bit confusing. May be make another vidoe for us new commers.
Hi there ,Im slowly understanding your strategy which is the best I've seen out there. Would there be any chance of sharing your excel calculator as Im having troubles working out how many units to trim and the conversions. I'll completely understand if you'd prefer to keep that private. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the compliment. I hope the strategy helps you out a bunch. I'm going to look into how to share the calculator. I'll keep you posted on that. Seems like everyone could use it!!
Say you get hedged again on an inside trade. Do you follow the same trimming steps every 40 pips? At what point do I open another inside or close the basket of trades?
Great question. Yes, you follow the same steps trimming at 40 pips or more. I just made a video on how to work from the inside. Should be up later tonight!!!
Hedging is for protecting a position that is difficult to get out of (quickly) (or difficult to get out of and back in later), e.g., owning some physical property, house, metal, and so on. Then, to hedge the value through a quicker mechanism makes sense. But hedging forex with forex? Seems unnecessarily bloated. It's just as easy or even better to close a forex position, which goes against you, as it is to additionally buy a position in the opposite direction. The hedging in forex also ties up more capital. The steps through the hedging algorithm can be replicated in a lean way without hedging, by net positions. After sell at stop loss, follow up with new positions to achieve exactly the same as is achieved with hedging w.r.t. profit and loss. Can someone explain why they think that hedging in forex is better than net positions? Is it a psycological effect? Is it a reminder to follow up with an algorithm? Those are valid points, but not on a technical level.
I would start small. I would also recommend using 1:50 leverage until you nail down how much margin you need. You can always size up once you get the hang of it!
How did you do the calculation of first lot substation. You have made $730. You put $100 as profit. Then you give $630 back to the outside -$1030. How did you calculate the 1.0 lot to reduced to . Lot to close to be 0.6165？ What is the calculation and can we download the sheet
Hey great question!!! Check out this video. FOREX HEDGE CALCULATOR | Forex Hedging Strategy ua-cam.com/video/JEggTWy1lLk/v-deo.html The links to download the spreadsheet are in the description!! Hope it helps!!!
I’m interested in this but have no understanding of what you mean by ‘trimming’ or ‘applying’. Are you saying that by trimming you are just closing x amount of your open losing position? And ‘applying’ makes absolutely no sense to me. Could anyone direct me to a video where they explain these terms and processes?
I'm confused. Aren't you losing exactly the same amount of money as you are making when you are fully hedged? So how do you make money without opening a position that doesn't go into another full hedge?
Hey there, I dont use lots, but the overall strategy would be the same. As far as the XAU, there is no difference between it or any other forex chain. Here is the video on the Trim the Hedge calculator. You can download the calculator in lots, and that might help you!!!
I know I've tried hedging before but unless you have a broker that allows hedging or live in a country that allows hedging, it won't work... my platform will not allow me to place a hedge trade.... so what world be another alternative???
Hi, nice video i just have a doubt , is it posible to do this in Perpetual Futures in cryptos? the problem or maybe i havent found how, its that there is only 1 long and 1 short. Prices are averaged
hi, how do you choose the correct lot size for your account to be able to hedge like this? something like a prop firm account at 200k that is 1:30 and make margin calls at 10k, i cant wrap my head around how to calculate this, when not looking at how many pips drawdown 1 trade can have to one side 😅
Yes I saw ALL your videos and sincerely love it sooooo much, they are woo awesome and waiting till Monday for the next one!! But at the end apart from that one that is closing the outside trade, which would be the worst scenario, it have huge drawdown?? Also you think if I made a bot for not having any mistake it could function? And last why you always when foreging the inside put diferente amounts like some 2 times the units, 3 times , 2.5 times, you always put different amounts, why that? Which is the best amount to always put for a beginner?
. Great questions. I love trading and the thrill of deciding when to trim and when to enter a trade. So for me, a bot does not make much sense. As far as units or lots, just don’t trade more than what you have margin for. I had some positions close on another pair and used that margin that freed up!!
Beside of closing the part that you can’t close and the margin, what else could lead to a lost? The problem with me I always try to look for the worst scenario possible or something not so good so I don’t be super emotional, but since last week I have been looking for something that can lead to a lost and haven’t find it apart from the mistake and margin. Am so glad I saw your videos , this is my second time watching all your videos!!
using my strategy + replacing my stop loss with your idea = a game changer for me thanks aloooooot......you got my respect and a new subscriber
can you share your setup?
Yess plz
I have been experimenting with hedging for a few months now and this trimming idea is genius. May be the last piece of the puzzle for me. Thx!
Heck yea!!! This made my day. Make sure you let me know how it is going for you down the road!!
i do like it 2. inplace of loss you end up with some profit,if you got the direction wrong.
@@toms8879 Exactly!!!!
Me too
Thumbs up for simplifying hedging. Usually every where one can see closing down profitable position and doubling down loosing one and average out. This is opposite and reduces risk significantly.
End to End example where gap increases significantly like 200-300 plus pips will be helpful in addition to V shape reversal.
Yes! I’m so glad you see the reduction of risk. This is my main priority. Video coming soon with more explanation on trading from the inside!!! Thanks for the comment, really appreciate it!!
i can call this one of the best trading videos ever. best strategy
Oh wow!!!!! Thank you for the compliment!! Totally made my day!!!!
I use hedging pretty much as a replacement of a stop loss but I always have trouble getting of the hedge, your video helped a lot. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Ironically, you're such a "Chad" for coming up with and sharing this. It's truly brilliant. I really appreciate it, you're a pleasure to listen to, thank you.
There's one thing I'm not understanding, about unrealized loss. If the hedge position is 30 pips away, and your take profit is 40 pips away, the drawdown would be 70 pips. But then you add another 30 pip buffer for a chance to get a clean trade. But if it triggers then your next take profit would be another 40 pips away. Each trade essentially would add another 70 pips. If you're able to reduce it by 50% the first time, the distance has doubled and left your unrealized loss the same as it was.
In this case, is the unrealized loss only addressed by Inside trades? Either by using a portion of what you'd pocket, or by clean inside trades (or squeezing inside trades). But with less units on the inside, it seems like it would be a long grind to offset the unrealized loss. Then that inside hedge may eventually become as wide as the outside one, with less shares at your disposal to do another inside hedge inside of the inside hedge, lol.
I get that it's unrealistic for the chart to trade within your hedge that long, but trying to understand. Thank you again. Best regards.
same thought I had
Maybe consider hedging at the market or say 10 pips. For your style this may work better. The bones of the strategy are to take profits and trim losses. You can totally change the spread to fit your style!!!
@@theforexhedge already moved it to 10:30 before I began. Was going to mention it to you, but later saw you were experimenting with 10:30 also. Btw, how is that going? I know you do the CAD, personally I’m doing it on the EUR/USD … but wondering if the lower volatility of the CAD, makes it more likely to get a clean trade even with 10:30.
Trading aside, hope all is great. Genuinely.
i am watching this for the 4th time now and have every-time went....why is this simply making so much sense.
Hi again!! I have some questions for you that might also help you as well.
1. At 6:50 mark, why don't you just enter the short hedge immediately? Why add additional 30 pips? Your long position is already in drawdown. So, if you add 30 pips to its down side, isn't this working against you?
2. Is there a difference if you use a larger pip size as your take profits? I see you typically use 40 pips. But, would the end result look the same if you used, say 100 pips for TP? Or would that actually negatively impact the initial long position by creating a huge disparity between the two hedged positions?
Thanks!!
Great Questions!!!!
1. I like to let them breathe in hope of being able to squeeze them. Trimming and squeezing is a great combination to make some profit, reduce some risk, and narrow the hedge!!
2. I love it when the market moves way beyond my 40 pip target. This is a range....my favorite is when it spikes and you get 80, 90 or more pips in profit. really trims the hedge!!!
I've also been hedging and this looks great.
It's a great way to trade as long as you're not chasing gigantic profits. But now with prop firms, you can get big accounts and stick to making ~2% month low risk. Game changing! Slow and steady is the way.
I totally agree. Slow and steady!!!!
it's against the rules in most of prop firms
Sir, Your wisdom is great--my question is how to slow down too many orders on volatile pairs eg-- gbp/aud, gbp/jpy, eur/nzd where reversal/hedge order has to be about 50 pips out and so profit has to be around 100 pips otherwise commissions eat up any edge/profit. Volatile pairs run & run in front of your eyes & hedge orders keep on getting hit & process becomes big project in itself. We need your wisdom.
I trade volatile pairs like euraud, gbpjpy and xauusd
From my personal experience,
If you want a smaller buy/sell stop,
you can set your buy stop at the consolidation above your sell trade using the 5 minutes chart,
or you can set your sell stop at the consolidation below your buy trade using the 5 minutes chart
Note that they can still be easily triggered
How you release the hedge depends on your interpretation of the charts
You have saved my life by giving out this genuinely working strategy it goes with my trading style as well…. You r a life saver….love from india ✌️
Can finally hedge with knowledge of an exit strategy, thank you very much. Great video and the first content provider too not ask for the thumbs up or subscribe and that was the first thing I did. Thanks again.!
Ha. Thanks! Glad you found it helpful
In this example when you are inside the hedge your position goes straight to the take profit so you can trim the outside long position, but i wonder what would you do if that position gets hedged too, how do you decide which ones you will trim in this case? Keep up with these nice videos!!
That's exactly why he isn't a billionaire yet
You saved my life, this video is EXACTLY what I needed. I spend countess hours trying to find it something about it. Man, I can't thank you enough. I hope you the best, thank you very much for the knowledge. God Bless. Subbed
Really saved 😂
thanks for your videos. I have been a fan of Grid, hedge, and martingale for a decade and lost a lot in this so far. You have a genius idea but still need clarification on the edge of your strategy.
right on, hope this might help out!! Can you explain more on what you mean by "edge" of your strategy?
Thanks for the video, I`m currently trading a good strategy and hedging but didn`t know how to trim the hedge until I saw your video, thank you so much for the information, I`m now starting to apply it in my account to bring back my liquidity.
Right on!!! So glad I could help!
Allow me to clarify traders who operate outside the USA, it is a completely constructive comment and I think it will help many traders. As far as I know, there is a big difference (or advantage) in hedging outside the USA (correct me if I'm wrong): I operate with an Australian broker with 1:500 and when opening two opposing positions in the same pair and same account , the margin returns to zero (free margin). If the price moves away, for example, 3k or 10kpips, I can continue to open new positions with the entire balance available (- the difference between the two positions which will be negative) to operate, that is, there is no blocked margin reducing my equity and % margin. In my case, it pays more to keep the positions open for as long as necessary until the price returns to breakeven and then make decisions (or close or manage price reversal). In the USA, I think there is no way to reset the margin by opening a contrarian position and then it makes a lot of sense to trim the lots that were left behind, in order to open up more margin for new operations. I hope this help some of you. By the way, thank you for your videos and attitude!
Same here
Which Australian broker offers 500:1 leverage?
Hedging is expensive on a 30:1 account.
@@Calagat icmarkets
Thanks a lot for the wonderful content. I am still trying to get my head around your strategy. I have watched some of your videos multiple times now. Quick question - At the end of the video you added a 11,275 unit position in order to bring the two outer positions in balance. How do you trade from that point onwards? Do you assume the outer orders are perfectly hedged and start trimming from the inside? But isn't that bringing you back to where you started when you had two outer positions of 29k units each? They will never get closed as they keep get balanced?
Thank you so much for your knowledge. Can't wait your next video for further explanation.❤❤
Stay tuned. Planning to do some live trades. So you can see it in action!!!
Very nice video and well explained. I liked you calculator too. however you didn't take into consideration broker fees/commission. Most brokers take commissions on close and open of any trade and it is also related to the size of your trade. I would be curious to know how did you manage that and will this method still works?
Hello Sir. I wish to thank you so much for this very interesting strategy. I was looking for a low risk hedging strategy for quite a long time but i found it today. Just one question.
What currency pairs you had the most success using this strategy?
Great question!!!! All of them work. But I have found the USD/CAD and the GBP/USD seem to be my favorite. I like a little faster movement. The EUR/USD works really well, it just moves less pips each day.
vary similar to what i was doing ...but i had no history or guidance so i cut the experiment short but i have to say that its a great cash flow solution ...because your making cash as you wait for the trend to change in your favor... so if i made 4000 and was losing 4700 ...not so bad as its a matter of time before it goes my way ....HIT and MISS BABY HIT AND MISS sometimes we get a hit
Yea. Exactly!!! Great way to look at it!!
I've only started hedging this week, thankfully very successfully so far. I think this will add an extra layer of security for me so thanks very much for sharing :)
Now going to have a go at coding this as an EA. This would basically be a licence to print money!
How’s it goin now brother?
Nice video. good job. I have a question. when we do build from inside, what if the price goest to a range market and takes both orders and continue ranging? what should we do then?
Thank you, very helpful. Been looking for a way to do this which is consistent for a while now. 🤙
My question here is at 13:00 how much is the size of lot you gonna open if the buy stop is triggered ? thank you . youre very helpful to us.
I'm using hedging strategy to but one thing that didn't come into my mind is to trim the lossing side as win you on other the side and I was like OMG!! that strategy really makes sense I was mind blown dude ahahahaha. Anyway thanks for this and will continue to support your channel I may learn more about hedging.
Right on!!! I love seeing comments like this!!!!
@@theforexhedgesame here, I just lost of money while hedging, because I didn’t know how to get out. Immediately I saw this video it was the last missing puzzle. The idea is genius.
This the most awesome technique of earning money by hedging and squeezing the hedge. But how to calculate the squeezing? Plz provide the formula. It will be really helpful for your subscribers.
Good morning !
I have watched this video several times and have tried to do the calculations myself as the video progressed, and finally I understand every bit of your strategy, along with how much risk is involved , etc... and after all of that I still think this is an unreal strategy lol!!!
Now,
I know that you have gone a long way to find out the best combination of the elements in your strategy, meaning, trading specifically the USDCAD, leaving 30 pips buffer zone before you hedge, risking $10 per pip, keeping the buy and sell orders balanced all the time, banking only 1/1000 of the winning position and applying the rest to reduce risk, reducing the outer positions first... etc...
Having said all this, have you done the exercise of not leaving the 30 pip buffer to wait for entry, but instead entering immediately after you close the winning position? .... this will eliminate the squeezing and will give you more "hedge trims" which is what ultimately makes you money.
I would love to hear your thoughts on that.
Thanks again for sharing your experience.
TZ.
yes, I have done it immediately and had a buffer up to 30 pips. I have started using a 20 pip hedge. I think this totally up to you!
Thank you for your response 🙏🏻
Were you able to reach to the conclusion which one option makes the most money?
Trims I think are important to catch such pull backs. Remember it's aim is to reduce the hedge gap
In one of the comments, you talked about sharing this XLS calculator... Is there a way to get that...
Wow. Trimming Down is what I don't have in this strategy, I will try this.
thats the secret sauce!!! you gotta trim that hedge!!!
How do you trim the hedge and how do you also put some money in your pocket, where do you go to make these adjustments on your chart. I'm new to this style of trading
Hello, I love this technique It really is my last piece in puzzle...I just have one question. What is max risk we should take for this.
Welcome, thank's for the information. Clear and concise.
Thanks!!! Sure appreciate the feedback! Glad you stopped by!
Great video! Question: How do you calculate the units to close when trimming the hedge?
This seems awesome. Very technical....will need to watch it again. Any chance you can show this on a chart..??
Thank you
Thanks!!! You can watch the live trading and see it live. I may look into a decided as well!!! Thanks for the feedback
Also, a follow up question. Would it perhaps be more profitable to not get some profits along the way, but to use all of the hedge profits to close up the opened position in drawdown.
Here is my logic.
Say you have a long position that's in heavy drawdown of $3000 so you open hedges, squeeze them, work them, etc. And you keep exiting at profits on those hedges but you keep some money and you use the rest to close the drawdown. However, you increase the number of needed trades to close the drawdown because you aren't using all hedge profits to close it, so more trades requires more commissions, swap fees, etc.
On the other hand, if you used all of the hedge profits to close the drawdawn, you would get all of the profits anyway at the last hedge that has higher profits than what remains of the drawdown. For example, if you are $3000 in drawdawn and you close it with say 3 hedges. First hedge 1700, second 800, third 1000, totaling $3500. You anyway get all of the hedges profits above the initial drawdown value with less trades. I don't know if what I am saying makes sense. But, I would love to hear your thoughts!
Thanks!
Great question, I love that you're thinking of ways that you can apply it. I agree, you can wait and take profit later, or take some along the way. I prefer along the way. For one big reason, no pressure to get flat. Getting flat is not my goal.... If you have not watched this video it might help out on this concept... ua-cam.com/video/IlFnjHJRCOo/v-deo.html
This method in the video is a safe net method. You keep getting small profits but u must get used to having negative balances running for a long time
Hi thanks for the great and concise videos. Not to long videos works great and you are clean in explanations thanks. I have 2 questions if I may.
1- I was wondering if you ever tried not to close the hedged position when you reach the TP area, but let it run and still trim the value of the outside hedge as it goes in favor, only close if it starts to reverse?
2 - Why do you reopen at a 30 pip distance from previous position, why not closer or even at the closing price from the top ?
Hey. Great questions!!!!
1-I will let the position work beyond 40 pips if it’s moving. But I never trim without closing. This is a hard rule for me.
2-I always have a stop order in at 30pips. Closet thank 30 it seems to be to right and gets picked up to fast. I don’t want it at the closing price because I want to squeeze as much as I can. Hope this helps!!!
@@theforexhedge thanks for the feedback. I havent seen all the videos im still trying to fully understand the hedging from the inside, sometimes i get a bit lost with the meaning of the terms because english is not my language . I like these videos better then Nick Shawn, keeping them short is key. Thanks
Thank you!! I agree, shorter videos for the win!!! here is a "longer video" on working the inside. you dont have to watch the whole thing, but it may help you understand working the inside!! ua-cam.com/video/IlFnjHJRCOo/v-deo.html
Really great explanation and the way to trim. Can I get the working excel sheet
Thanks found in the description 😂
Hi, really enjoyed this video. I am thinking of implementing this strategy. Just want your guidance on sizing. If you have a £30k account , what would your initial size be on a trade and what was the worst drawdown % of your total account size you have experienced? Have you ever blown an account using this system before mastering it? Thanks
Amazing job! Finally someone covering hedging :) a video that covers managing multiple inside hedges would be awesome. What percentage of your account would you allocate to your opening position since you are essentially locking in drawdown?
Hey, great question. I think around 20% per side needs to be allocated. This may be different for everyone though. we all have different leverage. in the states I have 50:1 or 20:1 depending on the chain. that makes a big difference on how big your position can be
use 20 % lots left over just in case
Can you please clarify? If you are in USDCAD hedge are you saying you use 40% of your margin?
@@voodster yes. This is the cost of the position. The rest is for draw down and managing the hedge. Hope this helps to clay!!!
@@theforexhedge thx so much
trimming the hedge solve a lot of things on my strategy.
but I think your strategy will be worthless for the small accounts (less than 1000$), am I right?
can you make a video to explain how exactly to use this strategy, because it seem impossible to me to trim the position and open another one in the same time without bots.
what trading platform you use?
Nobody is making you use a full lot size for your trades. The strategy is the same regardless of trade size. You just have to adjust your expectations a bit. For instance, if you're going to use a mini lot as a starting point, you can't realistically expect to trim 100 bucks out of a single trade when hedged unless you're trading on a very large timeframe or a currency pair that easily ranges for 200 pips a day.
I'm a programmer and have once attempted to code a similar logic but there were scenarios that were very tricky... funny enough you've left out those scenarios in your video as well. Like you said this is a lot of wok when done manually. If you're 100% sure about your strategy please reach out or leave your contact details and we'll automate it. you'll test every iteration until we get it right. not looking to sell it. just automate it to make my trading life easier... (just a passion, I automate everything). let me know if you're keen. it's gonna be fun.
Could you explain which scenarios you're talking about?
Did you get the chance to automate it?
Great video. I like the trimming method, had not thought about that. It sure seems a lot of work though to try and get back to a smaller loss/small profit rather than having a tight stop loss and decent RR in each trade. What is your average monthly profit and RR using this method? cheers
Great question. I get around 3-5% return each month. I agree, if you could call the market correctly all the time, and only have an occasional loss. Traditional trading is the way to go. I am not that good at call the market. So, this allows me to NOT be correct. I just have to manage the hedge. And you are 100% correct, it is a lot of work!!!
why not start with Buy Sell together and close the winning trade at 30 pips and hedge at the same time. So hedge will start at breakeven.
great question...once in a while you get a "clean" trade by not having to hedge. That gives you a nice profit!!!
@@theforexhedge do you have any entry criteria or you just open basen on instinct
@@malikkashifnawaz I use support and resistance levels. Use to use RSI...MACD....etc. etc. Now, I just look for support and/or resistance levels.
Great video! I'm now trying this in a demo account for the first time, and have just completed my first trim. Could you please make a video that talks about how you chose 30 pips as the entry distance for the hedge and 40 pips as the target profit, and also maybe some basic fundamentals like sensible capital amounts for the volumes used and typical returns to expect. Also, aside from getting the trim wrong (as in your other video), what other things can go wrong in the hedge that beginners should look out for? Thanks!
Hey Thanks!! appreciate the comment. the 30 pip hedge and 40 pip profit came from trial and error. Feel free to play with that on your own, make sure you find something that works for you. This is where I found the most success! As far as other traps and/or mistakes. Well, you saw it live and thats about the only one I have found. Capital is hard to recommend, so many variables. ie. leverage, where you live, what chain you are trading....etc.
@@theforexhedge Thats what I was wandering too. Just another question to ask is what forex pairs is that most effective with?
I prefer the EURO and the CAD. But I think you could use this on the pair of your choice...you just might have to adjust the 30/40 pip and/or your margin to work with that pair!!!@@chint8215
@@theforexhedge Thanks for sharing, only thing with hedging is when to call it quits!
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on this. If managed correctly, why would you need to call it quits? If you have a scenario, or a timeframe on a market. Please share it with me, I'd love to backtest it. @@chint8215
Thank you very much for your valuable information. Quick question, can i still make money if i don't trade from the inside and I only focus only trimming?
Yes. But eventually your trims will become very small.
Hi again. Your technique is amazing . just asking what if there is original long position and the market goes down then the hedging short position start.. what if the market continues to drop down and down and down lets say up to 2000 points .. in this case i think there must be a solution in which we must do another hedging outside the original hedge.. do u agree?
Hey, Great Question!!! I answered it question in today's vid!!! ua-cam.com/video/n-O4JZDRQpc/v-deo.html
i dl the calculator, but it dosnt look like this? top when i hit apply the top black squares dont do anything? they read - div/0
So my main issue is what do you do when you set a hedge order, and then the hedge just gets caught on a wick, and price starts going back towards the original entry? Just close in the middle for a small loss?
Really nice approach and explanation, will mesh it with my own hedging and see how it goes. Have a sub!
Awesome, thank you! Good luck in your trading!!!
How is your hedging done?
its a fun way to trade. check out the video, might help you get started!!!
@@archiebrymah7891 It is not done yet. I have not done anything new, so no new video. I was hoping to trim it today, but it just did not get far enough in the money. So, we wait. Patience!!!! As soon as there is new activity, I'll get a new video out! Stay tuned!
You are a Genius
oh wow.....you totally made my day. Thanks for the kind words!!!!
Hello. Thanks for the great video. May I ask which broker do you choose and what is your lot size. In my place there is only micro lot size, 1 pip equal 0.1 USD which makes the hedge strategy only available for account large enough like 1000$ or 10000$.
I use Oanda and I trade in units!!!!
@@theforexhedge oh. So the problem comes from my location. Thanks again.
This is a great video - I’ve just signed up to a hedging strategy course but find your explanations really easy to follow and reinforce my current knowledge. Great content. Can I ask what your name is??? Thanks
Right on. Good luck on your journey, I’m grateful to play a part. My name is Chad. ;)
I have to watch this again.
awesome!!! let me know how it goes!
What about a case where it hits the first sell stop but then reverses and continues upwards. Or say a much more ranging market than the strong trends you showcases
Are you waiting for price cross? If so then false break will enter position which is not confirmed by closed candle. Or if you wait for price close then you can't limit the 30/40 pips .theoretically it is working but running EA won't work.
Hi, thanks for all of your videos. I was just wondering, I have a hedge on with an 80 spread between buy and sell orders, I know I must be able to trim this, do I need to wait till one side is 80 pips in profit before trimming or is it possible to start trimming from 30 pips in profit?
I usually start thinking about trimming at the 40 pip mark. But getting 80 pips is awesome!!! just a bigger trim!
Awesome informative video, please keep them coming !!
Thank you!!! I'll try to keep them coming!
Great video series mate, looking forward to further videos.
Ive been using hedging in my trading instead of a stop loss for about 4 weeks now, but in a slightly different way.
I had a quick look on forex tester today on some old GU data using your approach, this was a buy trade, sell hedge was triggered, price kept dropping and every 40 pips I closed the hedge, trimmed the buy and reset the hedge, but tbh it just kept capitulating over several days, to the point where my original buy was down to micro-lots with big drawdown so couldnt really trim any more off, and not much inside opportunity, although im guessing there will be a way round this.
Would be good if you could elaborate more on the different scenarios that may play out, especially when your inside trade hedges are activated. Maybe even an FX Replay video showing the flow would be amazing.
Cheers mate 👍
I thought about this too. The thing is, I think if you use supply and demand or any strategy to be honest and only hedge losing trades,you would be in profit.i mean if the price tanked like that it showed that it was trending and you possibly had an entry in the direction it was going to...
I know some of my good supply and demand setups were killed by stop losses
Hey! I’m so excited you are diving into the strategy!!! Remember, you don’t have to trim at 40pips. That’s when I start to look for a trim. If the market is moving hard let it move. When it pulls back, don’t forget to squeeze it back as much as possible. Every pip counts on the squeeze. And finally, you don’t have to wait for the market to get exactly in the middle to trade from the inside. Once your lot size is down and you have margin you can open a trade anywhere in between the two outside positions. Good luck and keep me posted on your journey!
I remember you said monthly return is 5%. What is your initial lot size to begin with. For example if I have 10K usd account what will be initial lot size to target 5% return on investement.
There is no cut and dry answer for this. so many variables, where you live, what your leverage is, etc. I would just recommend starting over very small!!! you can always scale up
@@theforexhedge I agree but if I trade 0.1 lot (1:1) leverage on 10K account I am not going to get 3-5% returns. I am just trying to understand optimum size per account which you have tested for consistent 3-5% returns
I have 50:1 leverage trading with Oanda in the US. For a 10k account I personally would trade 100,000 units. And trim down from there. This is just how I do it with my leverage. Please, make sure you test this for you and all the variables in your situation. @@samirorange83
Thanks much for sharing your method, I have learned much from your videos! Any thoughts on daily financing when positions are held past 5pm EST and how this works in your trading and strategy? EDIT: Looks like trading the Loonie you pay a bit on either side (I read it incorrectly the first time).
I do pay some swaps. But taking profits along the way more than offset swaps!!
Hello, when doing the calculations, do you include the amount of losing swap ? thank you@@theforexhedge
I see your video. It's very impressive, COngrats. But whats your strategy if the price, after reaching the first step (100 units long, 100 units short, so full hedging), go long upon the buy? Thank you
Hey, Great question!!! The strategy is the same...Trim, Squeeze and finally trade from the inside. This video might help to clarify that. ua-cam.com/video/IlFnjHJRCOo/v-deo.html
What an amazing strategy... I wish I could get a consultancy from you even if it is paid...😊
Could you please share with me the Hedge excel sheet as shown in video?
How much capital wee need to take trade please reply .
How much capital i need to start this statergy in 0.01 lot
0.1 lot
1 lot
Great video! Makes sense. You're a really good communicator and come across as genuine. So thank you! I can see how this can turn anyone into a profitable trader. Because if you know how to work yourself out of your losses, you could quite literally toss a coin for a entry strategy and if you win, you win. If you lose, you just implement your hedge protocol. Your rules are pretty simple and clear. It seems like you could automate this process with an EA. This would also allow you to test the long term viability of it. Have you attempted an automated approach yet?
I have backtested to 2004. I know a few guys on here have made an EA and tested it. As far as I have heard good results
@@theforexhedge Well that's encouraging! I'll practice this on my simulator and see if I can get it down. Thanks for contributing your time and energy. Blessings!
Just a clarification.......you need to do an outside trim first then you are able to do an inside hedge...?
yes, trim the hedge down to get margin back and then when you open a position on the inside you are not increasing your original risk exposure! Great question!!!
I am wondering why you prefer USD/CAD instead of GBP/USD even though GU moves pretty fast. Do you prefer range bound pairs like EUR/GBP, AUD/NZD or high volatile like GBP/JPY which most often moves 1000 pips without retracement.
Great question. I don’t generally trade the cable (GBP/USD) because it’s 20:1 leverage. That just stinks!!! The CAD moves and I like big moves! I’m playing with the GBP/JPY, no reason not to trade it. I just like the CAD. after a while trading the same chain, I think it’s easy to get comfortable with it.
@@theforexhedge if using like 30:1 leverage do we just need to use more of our account size for operating costs?
awesome strategy, i like the fact that statistically 50% of my trades can win clean, and the losers can be hedged back to BE or profit. Thanks
Hayy my question is wich broker give a facility to trade in forex with Unit position size
And wich broker you use plz clear my doubt
How do you avoid volatile moves that trigger your hedge and then pull back when you asleep?
I welcome volatile movement. It really does not matter the direction the market goes. Just go!!! Take some profits and trim the hedge!!!
I would like to draw your attention to your narration between 15:25 and 15:45 in the video. Shouldn't you have opened the hedge of the short position side by the size of the short position? which according to the video should be 29137 units. But you opened 11275 units, is that correct?
Great video. Thanks for your really amazing information. Only one question , i am in the middle east and when you say 100,000 units or pips the only way it is in my understanding equal to 10 lot ?because I didn't understand the 100,000 .
Hey there. 100,000 units is equal to 1.0 lots
❤ I love this strategy
wahooo. thank you so much!!!
Very Useful Video .Thanks for sharing. Im going to watch this many times as its still a little unclear at the moment. However I can see the value of hedging.
Good luck. Can’t wait to hear how your journey progresses!!
Just on Question. What if the inside Hedge puts up the Buy and the Sell Order... do you have to trimm and squeez the inside trade now until its gone and then come back to the outside? or how to do this?
Good video and thanks for sharing. What timeframe do you use for this?
Hey there!! I trade the 4 hour time frame.
@@theforexhedge ok awesome thanks man
@@Boostingcoach your welcome!!
So the hedging system here is holding you out of the losses, im trading high leverage like 100x, but never got to the formula like this. Its very intresting. And ill try to use that on a cross margin. That could be the nr. 1 mathematical formula to get out safe on your stucked trade. Will check that and will count. Like how much money is safe to hold and hedge the stucked position to not be liquidated by using this method. Thank you for that video. Im imprest.
What a great post!!! Thanks for taking the time. I love how you are finding ways to implement in your trading strategy!!!
@@theforexhedge Im allready tested that, and it took me from 1k to a 1.5k in 3.5 hours. And its not the point, that like you making 500$ from a 1k$. But the point is that it took me 3.5 hours all that hedge process till positions was compleyely closed. Its like anyone whos trade - knows the power when you scalping the trend direction. But 93% blowing up the wallets because of stucked positions on where they dont want to close in a loss. So Im 40 years old, and my trading expirience is 5 years. And from this year, I stop my normal job and living from the trades. My mathematical knowledge its like on the level lets say where i dont need to have a sheet wich you using on the video. I count that fast and in my head.
@@PolskiTrader AWESOME!!! Congrats, I love hearing success stories.
@@theforexhedge Ill be updating .. and ofcourse not missing any of your videos from now on... Thank You and keep that good work.!
sure do appreciate the support. mostly I hope you get real good at trading!!!
Can you do a second video on trimming?
Hey there!!, Here is a live trade of me trimming. ua-cam.com/video/tx1ByAwrZzQ/v-deo.html
I dont have 100 thousand dollars can you do the same video with the amount of 1 thousand please? im wondering how much money will i save... instead of the 100$, Thank you a lot for this video too
Divide by 100
Thank you for your video... I am beginner... I am quite lost... may you recommend me a book or document to start learning hedging step by step? Thank you
Sorry. I don’t have a recommendation. This is my personal strategy that took me years to develop. I just decided it would be fun to share. Your welcome to watch these videos as many times as you want.
@@theforexhedge Thank you
You explanation was very good but may be little confusing for novice like me. If you don't mind can you elaborate more clearly from 6Min video and ahead. From There i was lost. A bit confusing.
May be make another vidoe for us new commers.
Hi there ,Im slowly understanding your strategy which is the best I've seen out there. Would there be any chance of sharing your excel calculator as Im having troubles working out how many units to trim and the conversions. I'll completely understand if you'd prefer to keep that private. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the compliment. I hope the strategy helps you out a bunch. I'm going to look into how to share the calculator. I'll keep you posted on that. Seems like everyone could use it!!
Thank you , I'll stay tuned.@@theforexhedge
Say you get hedged again on an inside trade. Do you follow the same trimming steps every 40 pips? At what point do I open another inside or close the basket of trades?
Great question. Yes, you follow the same steps trimming at 40 pips or more. I just made a video on how to work from the inside. Should be up later tonight!!!
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Hedging is for protecting a position that is difficult to get out of (quickly) (or difficult to get out of and back in later), e.g., owning some physical property, house, metal, and so on. Then, to hedge the value through a quicker mechanism makes sense. But hedging forex with forex? Seems unnecessarily bloated. It's just as easy or even better to close a forex position, which goes against you, as it is to additionally buy a position in the opposite direction. The hedging in forex also ties up more capital. The steps through the hedging algorithm can be replicated in a lean way without hedging, by net positions. After sell at stop loss, follow up with new positions to achieve exactly the same as is achieved with hedging w.r.t. profit and loss. Can someone explain why they think that hedging in forex is better than net positions? Is it a psycological effect? Is it a reminder to follow up with an algorithm? Those are valid points, but not on a technical level.
Great strategy. What lot size would you suggest for $10000 account, 1:500 leverage and what pairs? Thanks in advance for your response
I would start small. I would also recommend using 1:50 leverage until you nail down how much margin you need. You can always size up once you get the hang of it!
How did you do the calculation of first lot substation. You have made $730. You put $100 as profit. Then you give $630 back to the outside -$1030. How did you calculate the 1.0 lot to reduced to . Lot to close to be 0.6165？
What is the calculation and can we download the sheet
Hey great question!!! Check out this video. FOREX HEDGE CALCULATOR | Forex Hedging Strategy
ua-cam.com/video/JEggTWy1lLk/v-deo.html
The links to download the spreadsheet are in the description!!
Hope it helps!!!
I’m interested in this but have no understanding of what you mean by ‘trimming’ or ‘applying’.
Are you saying that by trimming you are just closing x amount of your open losing position?
And ‘applying’ makes absolutely no sense to me. Could anyone direct me to a video where they explain these terms and processes?
Why don't you increase the lot size in Hedge account, so it will be covering first trade more strongly?
Thanks!🤑
I'm confused. Aren't you losing exactly the same amount of money as you are making when you are fully hedged? So how do you make money without opening a position that doesn't go into another full hedge?
Thank you SO MUCH, I was struggling with the math:D
Is it possible to give an example on xauusd with lot size instead of quantity.
Hey there, I dont use lots, but the overall strategy would be the same. As far as the XAU, there is no difference between it or any other forex chain. Here is the video on the Trim the Hedge calculator. You can download the calculator in lots, and that might help you!!!
I know I've tried hedging before but unless you have a broker that allows hedging or live in a country that allows hedging, it won't work... my platform will not allow me to place a hedge trade.... so what world be another alternative???
Can I get the excel file?
Mantap sekali, sangat jelas bro...
Bikin vidio lainya seperti nick Shawn, dengan real chart kalo bisa sih setiap hari❤
Thanks a ton!!! I plan to make videos of live trades!!! Stay tuned!!
Hi, nice video i just have a doubt , is it posible to do this in Perpetual Futures in cryptos? the problem or maybe i havent found how, its that there is only 1 long and 1 short. Prices are averaged
hi, how do you choose the correct lot size for your account to be able to hedge like this? something like a prop firm account at 200k that is 1:30 and make margin calls at 10k, i cant wrap my head around how to calculate this, when not looking at how many pips drawdown 1 trade can have to one side 😅
One question, I don’t know if someone asks it before, but which is the worst scenario?? And how are the stadiatics of it?
The worst is making a mistake!!! Like this…. LIVE TRADE Hedging Forex 1.5 | Forex Hedging Strategy
ua-cam.com/video/JhZSUxOo4WE/v-deo.html
Yes I saw ALL your videos and sincerely love it sooooo much, they are woo awesome and waiting till Monday for the next one!!
But at the end apart from that one that is closing the outside trade, which would be the worst scenario, it have huge drawdown?? Also you think if I made a bot for not having any mistake it could function?
And last why you always when foreging the inside put diferente amounts like some 2 times the units, 3 times , 2.5 times, you always put different amounts, why that? Which is the best amount to always put for a beginner?
. Great questions. I love trading and the thrill of deciding when to trim and when to enter a trade. So for me, a bot does not make much sense. As far as units or lots, just don’t trade more than what you have margin for. I had some positions close on another pair and used that margin that freed up!!
Beside of closing the part that you can’t close and the margin, what else could lead to a lost?
The problem with me I always try to look for the worst scenario possible or something not so good so I don’t be super emotional, but since last week I have been looking for something that can lead to a lost and haven’t find it apart from the mistake and margin.
Am so glad I saw your videos , this is my second time watching all your videos!!
Also I just saw all your answers in this video and I’m more clear now in my head that I was before.
How is possible to close a part of a position? For example halving the original position or like in this video close 61% of initial trade?