BACKTESTING MY FOREX HEDGING STRATEGY | Forex Hedging Strategy

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  • @slim_to_none
    @slim_to_none Рік тому +12

    We all know there's no holy grail. However, this strategy does have it's positives. The first is psychological: hedging (instead of exiting) allows the trader to stay engaged and feel they're still in the market even tho you're net flat. Second is structure: a defined PT and SL (hedge) cutting loses while letting winners run 2x. Third is discipline: it forces you to cut size during big moves. Fourth is patience: waiting for a pullback within the trend to work the inside.
    So you're correct...there's no magic. But there is structure here which is beneficial to newer traders.
    I agree with you regarding balance/equity dispersion. Booking winners and hedging losers widens the curves out, which can be a problem when trading with prop firms using balanced based drawdown. You can get around this by exiting instead of hedging and then squeezing.
    I use this strat and like what Chad has put out here for us. It's not for everyone, but it works for him and he's willing to share, so big ups to him.
    Lastly, all his videos are still up. (playlists)

  • @authamail6599
    @authamail6599 Рік тому +9

    Yes, I understand your stress. It seems your comments reflect how high your stress levels are related to UA-cam.Keep up the amazing and innovative research you're doing, but remember that dealing with nonsensical questions in UA-cam comments can disrupt your peace. Stay focused on your video work don't edit just post, sir, and thank you for the valuable free content you provide.
    One last question from my side: How did you come up with the strategy of offsetting losses with profits? What inspired this idea, and what studies or experiences led you to develop it, sir?

    • @tradingedge2600
      @tradingedge2600 Рік тому +2

      yess my question also same how he know about this strategy in world of trading no one shared this kind of things seems we don't have to squeez at all because once market hit your tp in inside you just take new hedge trimming is enough to profitable any comments on it ?

    • @cartoonlife8239
      @cartoonlife8239 Рік тому +1

      @@tradingedge2600 yess if immediate hedge will give good dd because we alwasy looking for trim if we wait for squeezing it will make new risk trade no point in that taking that new for offsetting older lossing my brain also saying same is right chad ?

    • @letsseebythirdeye9553
      @letsseebythirdeye9553 Рік тому

      your right and same question do really squeezing is need without squeezing does it work ?

  • @youness4271
    @youness4271 Рік тому +14

    Hi Chad, using 20/40 got you flat really quick. I noticed that too in my trading, trades churn quite faster, and probably ended up making more money since the margin gets freed up faster, which helps to put size on the next inside trade. Keep up the good work.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +6

      I think your right!! all the credit for that goes to you!!! seems like a small adjustment, but I think it might have big results!!

    • @xankiiza
      @xankiiza Рік тому

      Don't you think it's a 1 to 2 risk to reward generally which gets you flat real quick?

    • @Panos.athens
      @Panos.athens Рік тому +2

      Isn't 20p hedge too close? Of course it is great for the hedge part but you reduce your chances of winning clean trades. Perhaps the opening trade should be protected at 30p and if hedging fires in you gap at 20p. The next backtesting will tell us I suppose.
      Chad I have a question, I assume 40% of your opening trades are winners (very fair). If you take 10 clean trades in a month you win 4x40x10=$1600. The other 6 trades you hedge (-6x20x10=-$1200) and let's assume you close them at -$600 (very fair as well) if not at zero. You make $1000, 10% return or more. Am I wrong? The 3-5% return is not counting the winners?
      Is it easy to add indicators on FXreplay?

    • @yaboi_dyl
      @yaboi_dyl Рік тому +1

      Saw your comment on the other video and started using 10/30. You’re a godsend my man.

    • @stevezm100
      @stevezm100 Рік тому +4

      @@Panos.athens hey there, I get the impression that the only chance to get a clean trade is after you are flat and I think chad always trys to stay in the hedge or at least in market. So maybe this is a rare occurrence for the opportunity to get a clean win. but I understand what you are saying. jees guys we all need to be in a discord for this! lol

  • @xankiiza
    @xankiiza Рік тому +7

    Hey Chad, we, your disciples are always here waiting for content. You have no idea how excited when youtube notifies me you uploaded a new video. Thanks Chad. May God bless you with life always.

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому

      Ive been checking his channel everyday in the past few days and i was worried that he's gone

    • @theodevraj3864
      @theodevraj3864 Рік тому +1

      Lol I wait for his videos too.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      you are too kind!!!

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      I really appreciate it!!!

    • @candoit123
      @candoit123 Рік тому +1

      Would be cool to chat with fellow traders in-between Chads videos. Share notes, trades, experience etc.

  • @alejandrodiaz5793
    @alejandrodiaz5793 Рік тому +5

    Your content is really useful and educational. You have helped me a lot to better understand trading and the ways in which we can operate in it. With this hedging system I have greatly improved my personal strategy and the results have been very positive. I really appreciate the content you make, I noticed that you deleted the video series and I hope the channel doesn't disappear, you have been very helpful to me and I know I'm not the only one. Keep up the good content!

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +2

      I appreciate the kind words. Yea, trying to find the happy medium between sharing my strategy and not breaking any rules. Hoping to keep it around, its fun to hear from everyone!

    • @alejandrodiaz5793
      @alejandrodiaz5793 Рік тому

      I just finished watching the new video and it was great, excited to see more content like this!I just finished watching the new video and it was great, excited to see more content like this!

  • @fredericogf908
    @fredericogf908 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for continuing to upload videos whenever you can. Cheers

  • @raduciopraga2752
    @raduciopraga2752 Рік тому +2

    Beautiful video man! Keep it up I’ll be here. I was worried there for a second. But thank god for the new upload.

  • @fencestainingpro9124
    @fencestainingpro9124 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for your time to show us your strategy. It has helped me. I sleep well knowing I have insurance (hedging) on my trading positions. Keep it up. Did you mention you have an email for further communications?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      you can find my email through the youtube channel.. under "about"

  • @michaelpaz1816
    @michaelpaz1816 Рік тому +1

    Hi Chad. We miss you brother. You cant imagine how good is your channel for us
    Thanks keep doint it plesse

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      sure appreciate the comment. Not sure the UA-cam thing is for me......

  • @mohammadabazari9001
    @mohammadabazari9001 Рік тому +2

    i backtested and i noticed your balance will be increased 100 percent but the real problem is that your equity is going lower and this gap will be a headache.

  • @khano2212
    @khano2212 Рік тому +1

    wooo Chad's back! 🥳 great clip as always, looking forward to see how you navigate through the 2008 chaos 😃

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      2008 was a wild ride. should be a fun backtest!!

  • @dimatistrading
    @dimatistrading 10 місяців тому

    Amazing how it played out. I will rewatch this video as many times as needed. Thanks a lot.

  • @Yibanathi
    @Yibanathi Рік тому +4

    Thanks Chad. Im just worried once shady forex mentors find out your strategy they gonna start selling it for thousand of dollars. I just hope people can find your channel so they dont fall victims

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +4

      i'll be honest, this keeps me up at night. I want more than anything to share this. But, its the wild west out there! Sure do appreciate your insight. I'm impressed at how well you seem to understand the big picture.

  • @MrTraderMike
    @MrTraderMike Рік тому +1

    Hi Chad, Awesome back testing segment. Real Value here. Lets throw everything and the kitchen sink at the strategy to see if it holds up. I'm excited to see the next instalment.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +2

      this has got to be one of the wildest markets in the last 20 years. Might as well see what we are made of!!

  • @sagrazoom
    @sagrazoom Рік тому +2

    1. That was too smooth) Waiting for toughest "work inside"!
    2. What % of an account would you recommend to foredging? In my testing more than 20% seems risky.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      way to smooth, I'm pretty sure the rest of 2007 and 2008 will be a bit more rocky. excited to backtest and show you guys.

    • @toms8879
      @toms8879 Рік тому +1

      use smaller initial risk. in place of 5 lots do 2 lot. i know less profit but also les risk for you.

  • @elhamwaziry466
    @elhamwaziry466 Рік тому +1

    Oohh finally you are back I was scared that you will stop uploading videos. Outstanding content 🎉

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      Hahah. I’m glad you’re like the videos!!

  • @traderjannie
    @traderjannie Рік тому +1

    Hi Chad, we are missing your frequent videos.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +2

      I appreciate it....I'll get some more out!

  • @jeevajeeva2481
    @jeevajeeva2481 Рік тому +1

    exactly we all wait for this hight quality content like back testing Thank you very keep upload backtesting strategy sir

  • @zentox6396
    @zentox6396 Рік тому +2

    I have another video Idea. In your livestream you mentioned that one could hedge instantly when trimming the hedge. Maybe thats one thing you could try to do in a video. I myself have found some success doing so, because when doing a 20/40 split, my average squeeze amount is less than 20 pips, which means I get to „squeeze more“ by instantly hedging.
    Edit: But don’t hedge directly when inside the hedge, there I usually go for a 30 pip win with a 20 pip buy/sell stop.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      Hey there, I'm a squeezer. I see some wisdom in the instant hedge, but I love the chance of a clean trade

  • @adamhopkins8155
    @adamhopkins8155 Рік тому +1

    What will really help is if you can break this down only in only money. The units thing is killing us. Just add and subtract money and everything will click overnight

  • @pauldrossinos2269
    @pauldrossinos2269 Рік тому +1

    Where are you brother. Loved your videos. Miss you Chad . When is the next one?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      ha man! thanks for the comment. I'm not sure the whole UA-cam thing is for me......

  • @AnthonysTradingChannel
    @AnthonysTradingChannel Рік тому

    I just wanted to thank you for uploading this video. I found it help.

  • @ginza1422
    @ginza1422 2 місяці тому

    Some questions: (1) can you do the hedge on same account or need another account? (2) when you trim, it is at a loss on that account, it will incur a wash Sale since you have a position on same. after multiple trims through the year, wash sale calculations will be a mess, or you need to be mark to market trader status?

  • @kamranhussain5376
    @kamranhussain5376 Рік тому

    Hi, hope you are doing well, missing your videos, I am using ur strategy and in profit from last 30 days.... Thank you

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      heck yes!! These comments make me so happy! love seeing others have success!!!

  • @TA-et8mv
    @TA-et8mv Рік тому +1

    Not sure if my previous comment got posted or not. What you will do with the increasing draw down . Running on 2 pairs but the draw down keep increasing even after internal hedges. Following 40/20 rule. Need some suggestion on it.

  • @youssefelbasraoui355
    @youssefelbasraoui355 Рік тому +1

    Can you please make a video or explain how this strategy can be used with prop firms accounts? Is it possible, maybe by changing the number of pips for TP or for hedge, to not have to keep positions open overnight and during weekends?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +3

      I would not be any help there. I dont trade with prop firms.

  • @stevezm100
    @stevezm100 Рік тому

    I understand about 20% of this but that is on me and not you! I will keep re watching this and your other videos, thanks for the great content. I do also feel emotionally hedging is nicer.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      you might want to check out the video that explains the whole strategy. ua-cam.com/video/Fzh4dNhYga0/v-deo.html

  • @lomo8660
    @lomo8660 Рік тому

    Chad, glad you are back! I would like to share a critical view on this kind of backtesting. As you do not have a defined set of rules for entries and exits the results of your backtests are random and not repeatable. E.g. if you pick your entries slightly differently you will end up with a complete different result. I think you pick your entries with your experience and discretion you have learned over the years. For many new traders this will not be replicable. It would so great to apply your approach to a strategy with strict rules, which you then can play over and over in different market situations. I am still trying to find this application though... ;-)

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому +3

      You are asking for a lot. Entries doesnot really matter on this strategy as long as you follow the rules strickly you will be good. This strategy is developed based on that the entries are much likely to be incorrect thats why we hedge. If the entries are correct then there is no need to hedge.

    • @lomo8660
      @lomo8660 Рік тому

      @@Yibanathi Do you think you can evade the Trader´s equation with this strategy? In the end you will need high hit rate with low profit or a low hit rate with high profit. I do not think that hedging changes that.

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому +1

      Go backtest this strategy and come here to tell us what did you find out. Go as far as you can. Because now clearly you haven't tested it

    • @lomo8660
      @lomo8660 Рік тому

      @@Yibanathi Behave. I share some insights and suggestions. If you are not able to take it, leave it. Bye.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +6

      I appreciate the comment. The entry its based 100% off of chart reading. This is a skill learned over time. but, the hedge helps you when you are wrong. I would say for me, the entry is less important than managing the hedge. Trim, squeeze and work the inside.

  • @candoit123
    @candoit123 Рік тому +1

    Even though its simple, logical and rule based. Its important to practice practice practice. Im staying on demo until i can smash it.

  • @tradinglabvix
    @tradinglabvix 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the info

  • @alkasmash
    @alkasmash Рік тому +2

    Wow you really decided to take your time before posting😂💫

  • @ForexStoryteller
    @ForexStoryteller Рік тому

    I'm curious to see what else you test it through. I use about 50% your strategy /20% someone else/30% math, though I haven't finished out the calculator yet because I've been punishing my own strategy. Drawdown and size determines what i do at each level and only trade at levels, because those are also calculated from. Math nerd side of me lead me to something that so far I can't break, and the only way it has failed so far is by starting too big 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @tajender_singh
    @tajender_singh Рік тому

    Would love to see this strategy applied to US30

  • @joseneto2525.
    @joseneto2525. Рік тому

    keep up the good work..!

  • @PakFan786
    @PakFan786 Рік тому

    Hi Whats happened to the channel, no new videos, and previous video's have been removed ?

  • @3952simonbro
    @3952simonbro Рік тому

    I've really enjoyed all your videos and valuable information on hedging. I've just checked your UA-cam profile and a lot of your videos have disappeared. Hope everything is OK and that you'll be back to making extremely useful videos again soon. 👍😁

  • @johnny--dollar
    @johnny--dollar Рік тому +2

    Hello Chad! Just wanted to say Hi, I noticed you are saying maybe youtube is not for you. I hope not, but I'm sure you are getting overwhelmed by the number of people who want you to "Make them money" instead of just learning what is being taught. I have watched this same group of people flock from one Guru to another. Please don't get discouraged, just post when you want to. It would be a loss to the platform to loose you. But if you decide to pull your channel give us a farewell. Best regards to you my friend!

  • @qasimmohamedyuusuf6959
    @qasimmohamedyuusuf6959 Рік тому

    Hello
    It's been a while since your last video.
    When are you planning to upload some new contents?
    Thanks

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      I'm not sure the whole UA-cam thing is for me......hahaha

  • @SachinPatil-no4oq
    @SachinPatil-no4oq 9 місяців тому

    Hayy my question is wich broker give a facility to trade in forex with Unit position size
    And wich broker you use plz clear my doubt🙏🙏🙏

  • @biguchungusu292
    @biguchungusu292 Рік тому +2

    how could this strategy fail? I mean in your back testing has there ever been a situation where the price just takes off in one direction for a long time and you would have been margin called? I'm really curious because from what I can see it just seems like nothing ever goes wrong. I know you've mentioned before that it could fail due to user error but I mean other than that.

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому +2

      I have tested the strategy it doesnt fail. Just make sure you dont overlevarage. Its best to use what he recommends, budget a total of 600 pips of out of money even if it goes one direction for long time you will still be profitable. Even though in the backtest ive never seen a situation where the market just go 600 pips one direction without doing any pullbacks, that never happened

    • @shonisony8321
      @shonisony8321 Рік тому

      ​@@YibanathiThanks dear

    • @shonisony8321
      @shonisony8321 Рік тому

      ​@@YibanathiThanks dear

  • @Richie_Rich80
    @Richie_Rich80 Рік тому

    Chad I'm wracking my brain with something. When you hit your 40pip profit it seems to work out that you keep 25% of the profit and use the rest to trim but if you are further into profit you still keep the same amount as you would have at 40pips and apply the rest. Is it safe to say no matter what currency pair you trade you should use 40pips take profit as the benchmark and whatever profit you make from that trade you would keep 25% of that and apply the rest? and as a side note people like you are a rarity these days, I appreciate you!

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      I keep a fixed profit based off of my unit/lot size. For example if I have 100,000 units I keep 100.00. If I have 150,000 units i would keep 150.00. So if I have a profit of 500.00 on a 100,000 unit position I would keep 100.00 and apply 400.00 to the trim. If that same position had a profit of 900.00 I would still only keep 100.00 and apply the remaining 800.00 to the trim. The further the position is in the money, the bigger the trim, but not a bigger profit. Hope this helps!!!!

    • @Dreamboyer
      @Dreamboyer 9 місяців тому

      You can also use a 15/30 ratio or whatever you like. The drawdown will be equally smaller than the 20/40 l. As long as you keep the same ratio (1:2), and you only keep 25% of the profit you can use whatever works best for you.

  • @tradezinger1065
    @tradezinger1065 Рік тому

    Hi Chad , I also noticed that you were advancing the market 4H at a time, and squeezing the hedge every 4h, instead of squeezing it in much smaller increments of time like in the other previous videos.
    I think that looking at the charts every 4H's is very beneficial, because
    1- it allows us to get bigger profits further than 40 pips (as it was the case), and
    2- it cuts down the time we spend on the charts every day.
    Do you agree on that? or are you going to keep on looking at the charts every 5min to move the stop orders to squeeze the hedge?
    Thanks!

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      yes, I agree. I generally trade off of a 4h chart. I was using daily to maybe speed up the backtest process.

  • @alkasmash
    @alkasmash Рік тому +1

    Y'all this strategy is really working I've been trading indices for a week now and started with 100usd. Current balance 250usd equity 150.NB : I have not made a clean trade so far

    • @JuanManguerra
      @JuanManguerra Рік тому +1

      Your just going to slowly increase your drawdown, this guy is just trolling you guys.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      Haha. This cracked me up.

    • @alkasmash
      @alkasmash Рік тому

      @@JuanManguerra why would i troll you,,, there is a pull back after hitting tp and I open 2trades once. Also indices work even on weekends

    • @alkasmash
      @alkasmash Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge 20 : 40 is really doing wonders

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому

      ​@alkasmash congratulations, can you please share how you navigate through indices, are you using 400 and 200 pips?

  • @konstantinalexandermueller1921

    First of all, thank you very much for your work.Could you tell me how to set up the trading platform so that you see each separate order. ( For ex. when you are trading from the inside ) All the brokers I am talking to only give you average prices, meaning that you can not specifically trim from the outside, but you are only trimming the cumulative position. Maybe you can help me out here thanks

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      I use Oanda....it was nothing I did to set it up.

  • @ilanizn
    @ilanizn Рік тому

    Thank you!

  • @samuelkurniawan1773
    @samuelkurniawan1773 Місяць тому

    Hedging is a very good strategy as long don't use it on XAU or BTC & their friends that cost high margin. it just works only on currency pair w/ the largest leverage setting. 1: unlimited if possible.😊

  • @vinaypandit7779
    @vinaypandit7779 Рік тому

    Thanks for the great content again. I'm still testing on a demo account. I've noticed the amount I'm losing with open trades, seems to increase each time I close trades and trim etc. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, or maybe its the time 5 min time frame I'm using? Maybe I should just stuck to the 4 hrs time frame and use the 20 40 approach?

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому +2

      Time frame doesn't affect the strategy as long as you are following rules strictly. You must never close a position if it is not in profit for atleast 40 pips. Keep trimming and be patient this strategy doesnot chase huge profits. Patience is the key

    • @vinaypandit7779
      @vinaypandit7779 Рік тому

      Thanks for your advice. The amount that I'm losing should be coming down with every trum though, right? So issue is that I'm not trimming 40 pips?

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому +4

      Triming helps but have it in mind that the strategy is much efficient when you consider all of its factors meaning after you have trimmed and now you have margin back also consider working from the inside. If your initial lot was 1 lot and after a couple of trims you are left with 0.3 lots you may consider opening an inside position up to a maximum of 0.7 lot to make sure you dont over leverage

  • @max3518
    @max3518 Рік тому

    Thanks alot for the content, I am starting to get it but I have one silly question
    how much of a starting balance do I need to start implementing this strategy? and what about comissions? how can I include them in my calculations?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      I would start small, or on a paper account to figure out your personal margin needs. Commission are different for everyone, but something you need to take into consideration!!!

    • @max3518
      @max3518 Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge Thanks alot

  • @raduciopraga2752
    @raduciopraga2752 Рік тому

    Hi bro look you don’t need to answer questions if you feel you did it in the past let other people figure it out it’s not your job. Don’t let ignorant people get to you. Sadly that’s most of the demographic in the UA-cam trading community. But trust me we are some here that really want to see you here because you have a fresh perspective on this and you are chill dude who is not flexing McLaren’s haha. So at least be here for entertainment and not for answering stupid repetitive questions from the comment sections. Hope you will change your mind if not thanks for the time here. All love

  • @ivan-g6r2l
    @ivan-g6r2l 8 місяців тому

    if the market gose 20 pip up ,before you put yor buy stop above the market price, so now you are 30 pip above the market price, you put another 20 pip above buy stop(50 pip) , or you just get in a buy ?????

  • @randomlyshorts321
    @randomlyshorts321 Рік тому

    Amazing ❤❤

  • @korngeny1229
    @korngeny1229 3 місяці тому

    Can anyone help me how he calculates the lots to close? Anyone please

  • @fan_hamadi
    @fan_hamadi Рік тому

    Question if you don't mind: when do you decide to close all positions (go flat)? Is it when the sum of the money you get to keep on trims is higher than the current money floating or what? Thanks a lot!! 🙏

    • @trippitaka102
      @trippitaka102 Рік тому +1

      You would go flat when you trim your only live position and the amount of units to trim exceeds the amount of units on the opposite hedge position.

    • @Tradefy
      @Tradefy Рік тому

      @@trippitaka102 Which will go on infinitely, excepy you get a clean trade. Be aware that trimming a hedge always causing you a loss. Its an illusion that you can make money with such a system and to be profitable clean trades would be required.

  • @mansourshah8854
    @mansourshah8854 Рік тому

    Thank you chad
    I have two questions
    1 what if price goes in uptrend and your trim reach about 1000 unit, I mean how do you deal with that ?
    2 can we do this strategy with start of 20000 unit trade or minimum unit advice for this strategy ?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      1- eventually there will be a pull back, even if it is small. This is where I would start working the inside
      2-Concept is the same no matter the position size

  • @T4yo_1
    @T4yo_1 Рік тому

    Chad, would it be okay to work from the inside just after the first trim and squeeze, instead of multiple trim from the outside before working the inside

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      absolutely. Working the inside has more to do with available margin than how many times you have trimmed. that being said, I try to trim 50%ish before I start working the inside. Just so I can go in with a decent size position. Instead of having a bunch of little positions.

  • @T4yo_1
    @T4yo_1 Рік тому

    Hi chad, I was hedged over night with 0.50 lot, i woke up and was exactly 40 pips in the money +$184, I closed full and wanted to trim the one out of the money but I realized the position in the money which i closed showed as a loss instead of a win -$184, don’t know jf its the problem with my broker or what

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      yea, that does not make sense to me. I'm not sure I have an answer as to why

  • @muhammadfatih6881
    @muhammadfatih6881 Рік тому

    been waiting for your next video Chad ❤
    correct me if i'm wrong, for your risk management you are using 1:50 leverage and only trade 40% of your total capital (20% for long, 20% for short)
    do you have any reason for doing that risk management? why not for example using 1:100 leverage and trade 50% of your total capital (25% for longs, 25% for shorts)
    thank you Chad!

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому

      You are correct he uses 1:50 leverage but in terms of risking, he uses 20% of his capital as a margin requirement to open trades and doesnot exceed that. He calculates and make sure that he can go out of money for 600 pips in total meaning 300 pips long and 300 pips short. The 80% of the capital is to manage trades. He does this so that he doesn't over leverage and to survive heavy drawdowns but lets wait for his answer.

    • @Dil-ka-music
      @Dil-ka-music Рік тому

      ​@@Yibanathi So if i have a 500 leverage account i would just use 1000$ account for doing the same with 1 standard lot on each side? Am i right? I do use a 500 leverage account at the moment

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому +1

      No. 1 standard lot with leverage of 1:500 cost about $200 to open. To open both sides it cost around $400 meaning you are left with only $600 to manage positions to be out of money for 600 pips and that is not good since 1 lot for 600 pips can cost around $6000. In your case 0.13 maximum lot size is recommended. 0.13 x 600 pips ×10 = $780. And the rest of the capital you use to open trades which is 0.13 lot size. If you are using 1 lot on $1000 usd accound you will have a massive drawdown that is hard to manage

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      I'm really impressed with your comments. i get the feeling you have this down. I appreciate your imput!!! thanks!!!

    • @decrypt2088
      @decrypt2088 Рік тому

      @Yibanathi
      Can you pls explain how you came to the conclusion of 0.13 lots as max for $1k on 1:500 lev?
      What about $1k on 1:100 or $2k on 1:50? What would be max lot recommend according to your calc?
      And thank you so much for answering our questions. Have learnt a lot reading your replies here.

  • @DSTRADINGACADEMY1
    @DSTRADINGACADEMY1 Рік тому

    Hello , is it mandatory to make inside hedge?

  • @jensn5909
    @jensn5909 Рік тому

    I am doing more backtesting and I am into the 3rd month without even getting close to going flat. And I am feeling that it might never happen. I am trading the inside, trimming the outside, getting a few clean trades - all that good stuff. Does anybody else have a similar experience?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +2

      so let me ask you this...It sounds like you are running the strategy, are you profitable? I think of my hedge as a factory. Always running, 24 hours a day. I only make money if steam is coming from the stacks. If you go flat, your essentially shutting the factory down. I think I have said, going flat is fun, but ultimately I get right back in.

    • @jensn5909
      @jensn5909 Рік тому +1

      @@theforexhedge Thank you for the reply. Yes, the strategy is profitable and it seems 3-5% per month should be achievable. I was thinking of going flat, as a time to review and refocus, before getting back in the market. But, you are right, we need steam coming from the stacks. Hammer down!

    • @RattlesnakeJ85
      @RattlesnakeJ85 Рік тому

      I have a similar experience. What I am finding is I am profiting but for my drawdown is increasing at an increasing rate. For example, I'll make 2% a week and drawdown will increase by 4%. I should also mention I had some positions that were 300 pips apart to start. My equity drops each week so far (a month in).

    • @jensn5909
      @jensn5909 Рік тому

      @@RattlesnakeJ85 I haven't paid much attention to the drawdown during backtesting.
      On my live account, on the other hand, I trimmed yesterday so the position is smaller. But, the drawdown is up. But, I guess that is why we trim and squeeze from the inside.
      I just backtested March 2023 on USDCAD (20/40 rule) and was flat by the end of the month. So, I was happy with that.

    • @robertmileage
      @robertmileage 3 місяці тому

      @@jensn5909 ​ @RattlesnakeJ85 I have been doing this recently, my equity is going down but the balance on my account is up. So even if I made no more money but was able to get out of the trades I am in at Break even, I would have made money.

  • @XanderRooi-iy4cr
    @XanderRooi-iy4cr Рік тому

    Hi Chad, for us that's using Lots sometimes we end up with "close 0.00" so we won't be able to trim the losing trade but do we still close the opposite profit trade thats in profit?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      I would wait until you can trim .01. You might have to go more than 40 pips. But I try to always trim!!!

    • @XanderRooi-iy4cr
      @XanderRooi-iy4cr Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge thanks for your response I appreciate it.

  • @johnny--dollar
    @johnny--dollar Рік тому

    Have you changed the strategy from 30 pips spread to 20 pips? Is the TP still 40pips? Did I Miss A Video? Thanks ahead of time.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +3

      I am backtesting 20 pips for the hedge. Still the TP is 40 pips. This is reducing some margin requirements and giving a little bigger profits quicker for the TP. But, I have had great success with a 30 pip hedge and squeezing it. Seems like more times then not they get moved up to 20 pips... So, this is something to consider.

    • @johnny--dollar
      @johnny--dollar Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge thanks!

  • @zabihullahsadat4139
    @zabihullahsadat4139 Рік тому

    Atleast howmuch time (stage) we hedge , buy & sell , to be safe our capitl.
    i mean can i have 3 stage buy and 3 stage sell total 6stage

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      I'm not sure I understand this question.....

  • @shonisony8321
    @shonisony8321 Рік тому

    Hi Chad, while backtesting this strategy on FX reply I noticed an issue which is as follows:
    An outside sell position(65000 units) is In the money (403$) as per the calculator I kept 65$ and applied 338$ which is more than the opposite side outer buy position(5000 units, with OTM:-284$) , as I went on to close both 100% only left with an inner buy position (60000 units at OTM: -1026$) suddenly, my account balance got reduced from 10000$ to 5105$ with a realised pnl of -4894$.
    Could you please help me understand why it's happening like this, even though I followed the entire process correctly.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      FXReplay uses an average on the close for their calculation vs a trim. So, I actually keep track of my profits seperatly. I have reached out to FXReplay and let them know, hopefully they come up with a solution. But, to answer you quesiton. Keep track of your profits as you trim them. Vs using their account balance at the bottom. hope this helps....

    • @shonisony8321
      @shonisony8321 Рік тому

      ​@@theforexhedge Thanks for the quick response. Was pondering if I did any mistake or something. Lots of love & respect.

  • @sharkeu8758
    @sharkeu8758 9 місяців тому

    Hi, I have seen comments talking about 30 and 20/40 strategy. Can someone briefly explain it. I am guessing that its hedge stop pip values but how does 20/40 work?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  9 місяців тому +1

      the 20/40 is your stop order at 20 pips and your take profit at 40 pips. This is totally up to you though. Each trader seams to find what works for him

  • @samueloluwashinayoogundana4954
    @samueloluwashinayoogundana4954 11 місяців тому

    New to hedging and i don't understand where to start.

    • @robertmileage
      @robertmileage 3 місяці тому

      Backtest on fxreplay until you understand a basic concept.
      Just go to a random date, look at the chart and decide if you think price is going to go up or down. Place a trade based on that decision and protect it as shown. Then pocket the wins if immediate or start working the process of trimming the hedge as shown here as well as other videos

  • @azazaelmaher6468
    @azazaelmaher6468 Рік тому +1

    did you invent this strategy? I have been studying forex for a while now and haven't come across anything like this before.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      Yup. I did invent it. At least I had not seen it before either.

    • @azazaelmaher6468
      @azazaelmaher6468 Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge so what is the flaw of this strategy. I couldn't figure it out. but it can't be flawless, right?
      in what scenario do you actually lose with this?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      haha, if you find it let me know!!! I have countless hours testing it...countless trades live money. and so far we have 90k views on this channel and still no one has come up with a flaw. other than not following the strategy....but that should go without saying!! @@azazaelmaher6468

    • @stevezm100
      @stevezm100 Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge hi chad, I come from a crypto world where all sorts of stuff happens, one thing known to happen on rare occasions is the crypto exchange/broker to close your position for maintenance or what have you. Is there a possibility for a forex broker to do the same even one that is regulated ? cos this would be bad wouldnt it?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      I have never had that happen nor heard of it in forex. That would super suck if it did. That would be real bad!!@@stevezm100

  • @susicrust
    @susicrust Рік тому

    HI, I have been trying to backtest this strategy for a while on the 4h and sometimes i go flat but other times the hedge keeps growing wider and wider and my margin vaporises, after a point equity starts to decrease, is this normal or am I doing something wrong. I'm thinking i dont trade the inside quick enough or with a big enough lot size? using 20 pips gap my stops are lmost always hit so inside trading becomes complex. Sometimes i have an inside trade in an inside trade in a big hedge and i can never get out. Hope im making sense.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      It sounds to me like you might be able to work the inside a little faster.

  • @biguchungusu292
    @biguchungusu292 Рік тому

    how much are swap fees an issue for you when holding these positions for multiple days?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      swap fees can sure add up. gota keep your eye on them

  • @roberttaylor664
    @roberttaylor664 Рік тому +2

    Miss you Buddy! The only guy who trims hedges better than you is Edward SH.

    • @valicojo5291
      @valicojo5291 Рік тому

      Who is Edward SH?

    • @roberttaylor664
      @roberttaylor664 Рік тому

      @@valicojo5291 "Edward ScissorHands" 😄

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      hahah. just saw this. Edward SH cracked me up. That was clever and funny!!!!

    • @robertmileage
      @robertmileage 3 місяці тому

      @@valicojo5291 Edward Scissor Hands. Old Tim Burton movie with Johnny Depp

  • @decrypt2088
    @decrypt2088 Рік тому

    I have been in a hedge for 2 weeks, price keeps hovering out of the money then sometimes in the money by 20-30 pips then back out again. so not enough to TP. both sides of hedge is even and it is the first trade so there is 30 pips between buy/sell (this is before the 20/40 strat). you would not trade the inside with a 30 pip gap would you? What do you suggest I do? just wait it out? and the swap fees are adding up as well.

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому +3

      Which currency pair are you using? Because in the past two weeks you are mentioning usdcad,eurusd and gbpusd have made moves of more than 140 pips you would have easily got 40 pips takes profit several times. Either way On this strategy you cant really run away from swaps as this is not a scalping strategy, you will be in a market often times than not so you need to take swap fees into consideration when you do your risk management. You just need to be patient untill the rules are met eventually the price will break out.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +2

      the 30 pip hedge is still valid....if the pair you are trading is not moving a full 40 pips in the money, you could consider trimming early and catching the pull back in the corridor your trading and giving the position a good squeeze.

    • @decrypt2088
      @decrypt2088 Рік тому

      @@Yibanathi EURGBP which has one of the lowest swap fees pair my broker has.

    • @decrypt2088
      @decrypt2088 Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge I may try trimming early

    • @decrypt2088
      @decrypt2088 Рік тому

      Does lower leverage also lower swap rates? I know commission fees would be lower but is it the same for swaps?

  • @aschmidt17
    @aschmidt17 Рік тому

    Hi. Why have you changed from 30/40 to 20/40?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      there is nothing wrong with 30/40. 20/40 lowers your draw down just a bit, and gives you a bigger trim. It does put you in a hedge a big quicker. I would encourage you to test it. YOu might like it. I have been playing with a 10/40 and kind like it as well. hope this helps!

  • @biguchungusu292
    @biguchungusu292 Рік тому

    do you always keep a profit of 0.1% of your position size?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +2

      yes, always!

    • @biguchungusu292
      @biguchungusu292 Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge what would you suggest doing if I can only trade in .01 lot increments?

  • @decrypt2088
    @decrypt2088 Рік тому

    man that was satisfying to watch. thanks Chad for another great video. was starting to get worried as I haven't seen you post a new video for about a week. glad you are back. I agree I think the new 20/40 is a keeper. thanks @youness4271.

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому

      I also found the 20/40 performing very well

  • @FundedinaWeek
    @FundedinaWeek Рік тому

    Is it possible to apply your hedge trimming strategy on a smaller time frames, like 5m tf for day trading?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      Sure. You can use any timeframe you want

    • @FundedinaWeek
      @FundedinaWeek Рік тому

      @@theforexhedgeThanks :)

    • @robertmileage
      @robertmileage 3 місяці тому

      @@FundedinaWeek How did the hedging go for you on the smaller TFs? I am at the 4H but wanting to go lower....didnt know if you have any advice if you went that way.

    • @FundedinaWeek
      @FundedinaWeek 3 місяці тому

      @@robertmileage I tried it, it worked, helpfully (even though one cannot hedge gold sucessfully when the price action gets wild, as it often does) but I realized that the serious drawdown is a necesary the result of any such hedging, so it doesn't suit for my purpose of passing prop firm challenges.

    • @robertmileage
      @robertmileage 3 місяці тому

      @@FundedinaWeek That is good.....gives me some hope as I try with GBPJPY on the 5. So when you did it, you just kept everything the same as you would on the higher TF? Did spreads play a big factor, if so, how much?

  • @franciz1010
    @franciz1010 Рік тому

    hello. what happened to the videos?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      I'm not sure the whole UA-cam thing is for me......hahaha

  • @Alpacabowl98
    @Alpacabowl98 7 місяців тому

    farrr out mannn.

  • @gfx7894
    @gfx7894 Рік тому

    Can you pass a funded account challenge with this strategy?

    • @Yibanathi
      @Yibanathi Рік тому +1

      You can but it would take time. You would need to know how much is the daily loss allowed by the prop firm. If its 5% and you are using a $100000 account you would only need to make calculations based on $5000 maximum drawdown. So your costs and out of position budget must not exceed $5000. This strategy utilises a lot of capital and prop firms dont want that so in prop firm utilising this strategy strictly you would average a monthly return of 0.0025% but if you can do your own optimisation you might find out what works.

    • @stevezm100
      @stevezm100 Рік тому

      I think you would have to find a prop that allows hedging, I dont think many of them do as they say its hard to copy the trades@@Yibanathi

    • @TypicalCrocGuy
      @TypicalCrocGuy Рік тому

      @@Yibanathihey you have instagram or whatsapp, i might wanna ask you a few questions regarding this strategy and maybe make a project together

    • @Ciocy4x
      @Ciocy4x 10 місяців тому

      @@Yibanathi hey man i have seen your comments all over the channel hahah, in one of your comment you said, you check this channel every dam day to see if Chad has posted anything, can kinda relate to you hahah, anyway, wanted to ask if you are still doing this strategy, and if yes how is it going to you? Also, Wanted to ask you few more questions as well around this topic, as seems like you grasped this very well =)

    • @robertmileage
      @robertmileage 3 місяці тому

      @@Ciocy4x I know this wasnt for me, but I am currently doing this strategy and it is been pretty good. I need to find a better way to keep up with my profits, but I know I am up in them.

  • @flamehands3416
    @flamehands3416 Рік тому

    What would be an ideal account size for trading 1 pair like usdcad 10000 units for every $1000?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      the ideal account size is tottally up to you!! Just start small and figure out your margin!!

  • @toms8879
    @toms8879 Рік тому

    did i miss something. have you taken a break with youtube videos.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      Yea, not sure the UA-cam thing is for me...it was a lot answering the same questions over and over....hahahha

    • @BrettBlack
      @BrettBlack Рік тому

      @@theforexhedgedo whatever is right for you, Chad! You’ve already provided enough content for people to fully learn the strategy. If you don’t want to answer the same questions over and over, one option, which quite a few trading channels do, is to turn comments off completely and just provide the content. But you did say that your original goal was to provide videos for your wife to trade from, and you’ve easily achieved that. Maybe you’ve already created your legacy here? If so, thank you for what you have posted!

    • @stevezm100
      @stevezm100 Рік тому

      we understand chad, thanks for all you've done@@theforexhedge

    • @biguchungusu292
      @biguchungusu292 Рік тому

      @@theforexhedge just keep making videos and answer less questions

  • @zam2050
    @zam2050 Рік тому

    Chad where are you

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      haha...like where's Waldo!!! I'm not sure the whole UA-cam thing is for me......

  • @theuntold2302
    @theuntold2302 Рік тому

    What is the minimum capital and leverage to play this strategy properly

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      totally up to you on capital. just manage the position size accordingly.

  • @johndeopaduaART
    @johndeopaduaART Рік тому

    Hi Chad, when do know its time go start trading with real money? I have been backtesting for a month every free time i get and also been trading prior to discovering your channel for 6-8 months but not consistently profitable.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      I think only you can answer this. but I would say being consistently profitable and very comfortable with your strategy would be a a good starting point.

  • @tareux
    @tareux Рік тому

    I think you did very well in hiding the videos because there are always other people who take advantage of new techniques and use them to sell on other channels and scam people.

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      yea, this UA-cam thing is pretty cut throat. Might not be for me. Crazy out there!!!

  • @johndeopaduaART
    @johndeopaduaART Рік тому

    What happened chad? Did you blow an account?

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому

      haha. this cracked me up...not sure you can blow an account doing this can you? nah, I'm just not sure the UA-cam thing is for me.....

    • @johndeopaduaART
      @johndeopaduaART Рік тому +3

      I was just trying to grab your attention haha😅. I do have faith with the strategy as i will be doing this even after i quit my high paying job this december and moving back home to live simple and stress free life. (Work burnt me out and work politics got worse as the company has been losing 25-30m every year).
      I did see you spend so much time on youtube and really tried your best to help. And I appreciate that a lot since i was in the verge of quitting trading before i saw your videos. AND you possibly left me with something that will sustain my lifestyle back home and will not force me to go back to work.
      Personally, you did more than enough to teach me the strategy. I just hope i can keep in touch with you as i would like to share my progress with the strategy in the future

    • @theforexhedge
      @theforexhedge  Рік тому +1

      oh heck yes!!! this is music to my ears!! Love hearing about everyone's success!!! Please keep in touch...my email is listed in the about section so you can always email me. Not sure how much time I want to commit to UA-cam. I kinda like trading and playing. UA-cam became a bit more of a job....without pay...haha. @@johndeopaduaART

  • @valicojo5291
    @valicojo5291 Рік тому

    Brilliant content as usual. Like this backtesting series 🫡.

  • @alkasmash
    @alkasmash Рік тому

    Usdjpy almost took my account but some how it doubled my account 😂🎉🎉