osu! Complete Stream Guide or "How a 4 digit had to relearn streams from scratch"
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2022
- ENG/RUS subtitles available!
Discord: / discord
Twitch: / toxic664osu
Twitter: / toxic664
Osu profile: osu.ppy.sh/users/12305683
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:48 The story
04:42 Hand position and tapping technique
06:34 Warmup
07:02 "Stamina" practice
09:18 Improving
10:03 Mindset
11:14 Switching your tapping style
12:35 Outro
Maps for practicing:
(Mixed)
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/556206...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/154113...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/495283...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/291517...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/129478...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/801337...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/513294...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/119852...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/133325...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/106384...
(Streams and stamina)
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/103685...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/147917...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/20949#...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/117449...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/257793...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/153776...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/48979#...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/347719...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/102271...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/357487...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/20125#...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/133693...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/134342...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/139092...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/121197...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/694464...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/144596...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/131466...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/403427...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/761593...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/336471...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/133545...
(Pure fingercontrol)
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/89799#...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/125315...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/52853#...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/140944...
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/508947...
Any 200+ bpm nomod burst/stream maps with HT can also work really well!
osutrainer: github.com/FunOrange/osu-trai... - Ігри
Maybe the real stamina was the friends we made along the way
Except i have no friends
What friends
The painful thing about learning streams is that its very inconsistent once you have learnt it once, there are times you will be really good and after a while you suddenly lose it, i experienced this kind of tilt before too and i accepted that i will never be able to get back my consistent tapping, and the only way i was able to fix it is just by learning streams by scratch and just learn consistent finger control over again, but i think this kind of inconsistencies helps you learn to be more consistent at streams.
Just goes to show how important it is to always practice the basic forms of Aiming and Tapping in osu. Some pople get so used to playing high star maps that they lose the ability to play low ar, low star maps and cant even even a FC a 3 star map, which ends up hurting their overall gameplay and making them inconsistent since they end up forgetting some of the basics of the game
Warming up is by far the most important thing. Fuck a practice regime, if you dont warm up you wont improve. At least thats what its like for me. Also osu trainer is the best thing that happened to me. Sometimes im literally 1% too slow to play a catchy song and thats where it saves me and makes osu more fun.
Yea I agree my saying with this is “ if you don’t warm up and just try to improve at the game from the moment ur session starts by the end you would of only warmed up bc obviously you wouldn’t play as long bc ur not doing well or by time ur doing well u have to leave or something. Furthermore your not pushing any skills caps like being able to tap longer during higher speed jumps or tapping faster for streams aim movement etc. you also don’t learn a lot bc obviously you don’t warm up so u don’t know what ur good at for the session which is what I am able to learn during my warm up time, through this it guides my session and what I’ll be doing during it. Let’s say I go into the session knowing I want to do speed and warm up but your doing extremely well on aim it’ll give you an idea of what maps you can do during the session and maybe even what to do for pushing skill cap no matter what skill u do it’ll help push ur other skills up this also helps ur mental especially
@@Toragiiiyes but how to warm up lmfao
this video is really helpful! i decided to swap from index ring to index middle because of my streaming skill plateauing (and frankly because my ring finger kept falling off the keycap) and your tips & maps are helping alot with the switch! I already feel a lot faster, just have to improve my stamina and I'll be set :D
underrated video good job making it bro
I swear i didn't know about the 60 degree thing. Literally an instant improvement. Thanks!
Very good video Bratan, it helped me a lot
Good informatical video, gj, see u next time!
If I am honest I didnt watch the video but all of the maps in the description helped me a lot and all were banger. Thank!!!
Tysm! this helped a lot!
Amazing video!
Наконец-то что-то полноценное нашел по этой теме. Спасибо за ролик, кста, хороший английский, даже без субтитров я довольно много слов на слух воспринимал)
Compare yourself to your current self. !!!Never forget!!! Great vid, thanks men!
Крутое видео с историей и советами, молодец )
This video helped me a lot! This usually wouldn't be enough to make me comment (I would just like the video), but I'm here just to say I'm loving the Girls' Last Tour OST in the background :)
i didn't really know what to put there, so just went with my favourite anime :D
I am currently in the same situation with your friend, I can't feel my middle finger whenever I do bursts on low BPM. Very informative video, will try these and hope I can improve thanks dude.
Очень информативное видео!
I started using your method of practicing very low bpm, it's actually helping me have finger control my my damn middle finger :D! Thank you! I'll update.
thanks for the maps
nice vid
I never realized my tapping technique was bad. My fingers were angled too high so it caused some finger lock and higher unstable rate. Decreasing that angle helped a lot.
По кайфу карт накидал)) Прям то что нужно, думал самому искать лезть, но видимо не придётся какое то время)))
video good
ik it doesnt have anything to do w the vid, but recognized the glt ost directly, W
oh wow i couldn't stream because my finger was too tense. thanks for reminding me not to tense!
It worked for me
Recongnizing twilight skies from only the patterns shows how many retrys i have on it lol
dude, you have the exact same issue i have (or did have)
i got a 500 on sidetracked and then after that my tapping just disappeared, i can only deathstream 175 atm when i used to be able to deathstream 190-200bpm, it sucks cause streams are my main skillset
👍👍👍
Honestly the most important part of starting to learn consistency is to get your ego out of the way and start playing maps that are a LOT lower star than you'd usually play and not retry spam them, just playing casually while trying to FC but not getting tilted from it since its just training
I switched from mouse to pen not even a week ago and started playing 1, 2 and 3 star maps at first and now im arleady able to 1 miss/choke maps i got like 7 misses on before. Tablet feels 100x more consistent than mouse im not gonna lie
mouse drift
Tip for learning how to keep your fingers on the keypad, Use a membrane laptop keyboard, the buttons are tiny asf aswell so it helps with the consistency, I was stuck in a hospital for 2 weeks and all i had was my tab and laptop, really made a big difference when i went back to my mechanical keyboard at home.
As a 6 digit who can comfortably stream 150-180 (maybe 190 if my fingers feel light) bpm, what made me get better was not consciously thinking about tapping, and instead, focusing on rhythm and the aim. For some reason, it made me able to stream like a robot. The only thing that keeps me from FCing is because aiming on mouse is hell.
3:41 twilight sky 180bpm 6.5 stars (I think) enjoy it’s a gud map
Im on the cusp of consistenly tapping 190-270, but theres one final thing im missing and its driving me crazy
3:00 twilight sky btw
I'm having issues with sudden fingerlocking, I was able to stream comfy to 220 and burst 250-260 no problems with great stamina on 180-200 and when i woke up and started playing my fingers would give up after 3seconds and it would lock in place, My speed decreased to a point I can't hit 200bpm streams and my stamina is gone... (note. This started happening a few days ago only and i've been playing for over 2y and all my practise vanished) someboy help xD
im basically in the same situation,
was able to stream close to 250 bpm
and now I'm struggling streaming 160 properly without missing or just getting very unstable hits
Just imagine that you're auto and don't consciously think about tapping.
Imma need the burst formula
Hope that ur tips will help me at streaming, im 300k and struggling at 130bpm stream... it might sound crazy but literally my single tapping is faster than alternating at full long practice streams 😭
Решил значит активно играть стрим карты и даже получалось стабильно жать (проблемы только с контролем при переходе от стримов к слайдерам или просто джампам каким нибудь, думаю с опытом наработается). Но я решил поэксперементировать "раз жму 180, а топы так вообще под 300 могут жать, то может сократить время нажатий, нажимая неотрывно", но как то плоховато выходит из-за клавы... Если я допустим сильно жму на клавиши, то все нормально, но вот если плавненько жмакать, то моя мембранка уже чуть ли не со скрипом еле нажиматься (ощущение будто прикладывая одинаковые усилия, в каких то моментах клавишу заедает на пару миллисекунд, что приводит к 100, 50 из стороны в сторону потому что пытаюсь сбалансировать после как раз таки таких вот моментов с "заеданиями"). В итоге щас опять подсел на фармо карты с джампами и заказал новую клаву. Надеюсь механика оправдает ожидания, а то около 10 лет на мембранках и думал норм, но после начала игры в осу понял что обязан купить механику... Кто сталкивался с подобной проблемой, хотелось бы знать ваше мнение, а то вдруг я что то не так делаю и мне даже механика не поможет xd
"to slowly getting my skill back*
literally only 4 100s, everything else was perfecto
A few weeks ago, I was able to stream really well but after I changed my tapping back I have trouble with streaming and pain.
pain is not good at all
@@Toxic664 a little pain in my finger and wrist,
@@neonuser2345 if you feel pain take a couple day/week break; it's not worth fucking up your hands because of a circle game
When I play stream maps, my middle finger taps more. It’s strange because my index is stronger since it’s the one I use to singletap ( copied from someone who has the same problem ). I did long stream practice maps from 140 bpm to 190 bpm. It got really hard on the 190bpm i'm tensing fingers after 300notes so i went to 185bpm instead now it's 2/3 days and only yesterday i got my first 85% acc fc 185bpm but today no any fcs, also the tensing today was random after 240notes i was tensing to the end of the map am I improving or no? any tips any technique idk
i have a really bad overstreaming habit for like the past year. i can play 190 with decent acc and rly good stanina but its still very hard to not overstream and takes way too much focus.. shouldnt have played burst speed as a low 6 digit
I started osu able to stream 170 BPM until I couldn't do higher than 140
Im kinda new into the game (well in 2months at 440k global) but I don’t really know like how to hit streams, like it feels that I get the rhythm but my fingers just sometimes stop just freeze for a second and comeback normal.
Then you are definitely not used to the motion and likely fingerlocking.
My suggestion to you is don't immediately start learning streams. You aren't ready for that yet.
I would suggest finding maps with a lot of triples first. Once you get used to triples, look for maps with bursts (5-11 note bursts).
Once you get used to the motion, you can start learning on short streams.
thank you for the advice... im a 230k player and i can stream 220 on average but recently ive noticed that ive been finger locking too often and i need to change my habit of killing my fingers everytime i play
Are you really streaming 220 BPM or are you doing 8 notes bursts that are 220 BPM?
@@procrastinates I’m really streaming I have to start doing bursts when I’m doing 235bpm I have a clip from my twitch showing that I’m not new to high bpm ever since I started playing osu I always out bpmed my friends and we all started around the same time my stamina is very good as well you can look my up in twitch (AntaunYT) I have a clip of me doing a 235 map…I haven’t been playing as much but I’ve gotten faster overtime and that’s that my keyboard isn’t that good. Even upgrading my kbm would help me improve even more.
@@procrastinates here’s the link to the clip
www.twitch.tv/videos/1689213054
And I actually beat my Combo and acc a few days ago too lol
Me as a 5k who has never had stamina or speed: ✍️
I fucking hate practicing streaming I never know whats going on or what im doing wrong and I am the same amount of bad at streaming from 120-200
1:14
But toxic, what if those 5 star maps are stream maps?
This is not a question that some random would ask, this is a question that I 'am' asking right now. I can play any maps that doesn't have more than 10 notes in a stream, and I can't even B rank the Ascension to Heaven 5 star diff. I need help
I was talking more about low to mid 5 stars because in general it's the starting point where bursts turn into streams. If you can't consistently FC regular 5.5 star maps there's just no point in trying to learn streams because you lack fundamentals. There are barely any real stream maps below 5.5, the only one I can think of is Tower of Heaven. If you can play 10 note streams that's a great start but you can't just jump from that expecting to play Ascension to Heaven well (I assume you're talking about Shiirn's mapset because streaming 10 notes is enough for most low 5 star stream maps). Judging from your top plays, you have only one 5 star FC and it's a hard diff with DT, so being able to stream for 10 notes should be more than enough for you at this point. Also you shouldn't be taking one map as a measure of your skill especially one that you can't even B rank, if we take Shiirn's AtH and compare it to Tynamo's extra difficulty, the latter is way easier for most players despite them both being high 5 stars. So don't rush and set more realistic goals to yourself
Worms guide, finally
What is the song that plays at 1:26 ?
a_hisa - logical stimulus
im trying to keep my fingers on the keycaps however i end up fingerlocking a lot more and losing like 20bpm worth of speed, how would i train this?
then don't focus on keeping fingers on keycaps, relax your hand more
Cool vids, funnily i have problem with speed, i cant do stream above 180 then i found out that my single tap speed is corelate with my stream speed, so i just single tap alt maps and single tap triplets and voila i can do 210-220 rn eventho its only been 1 week after i start my practice hope this might help with people with speed problem, i have a good low bpm finger control but lack in speed if anyone have same problem with me you might aswell try this method
when you alt 💀
@@Toxic664 yeah i never learn to single tap until recently 😅
ya got any tips on getting comfortable in tapping cuz when i like tap and try to stream my hand gets a stroke then suddenly lags and then goes back to normal in the middle of streaming
or is it that my hand is too tense
@@noone-iq4ne thats likely the case, you gradually tense up, then start getting 100s and your brain tells you to relax your hand. Practice longer streams with comfortable bpm (maybe a bit lower than that) and try to keep the rhythm. But that's just my assumption from your comments
When I play stream maps, my middle finger taps more. It’s strange because my index is stronger since it’s the one I use to singletap. Should I switch to ring + index or just play more? I did long stream practice maps 140 bpm around 3 times a day. I saw improvement for the first month but I’m basically at square one, 60% accuracy at long stream practice map 140 bpm. It’s my most played map yet i see no improvement.
60% accuracy will get you nowhere, I can suggest you try to play alt on some 3* high bpm dt maps without bursts so you can gain some control with alternating. As well as some mid bpm bursts
Right now I’m at a spot in the game where I’m 300k rn but I don’t farm much and for around 6 months or so I straight played stream maps because from early on I knew that I wanted to focus on streaming but that’s where I made a mistake because while I was just recently able to fc a 5 star when I couldn’t before my aim is not very good but that’s not the issue the issue is my streaming speed I used to be able to stream 215 lowish ur decent acc but now I feel like my max is 200 and I have been watching countless videos and looking at osu! forums on how to improve none of it is really helping me so I am just gonna take a 2 week break or so do you think I will lose all of my skill or will I come back better?
Also on the stream maps I used to play that are 215 bpm now I can’t stream it without 50s and a bunch of 100s
i think you will lose some of it, but streaming is a really inconsistent skill so you will have to practice it anyway
@@Toxic664 oh ok apppreciate the reply
what about galloping?
can someone help me?
need some tips on how to consistently tap alternate. I just notice that I always tense my fingers when a streams start
If you usually singletap, the simplest way to learn alt is to literally just play every map and pattern with alternating your fingers. Just like any other skill, start from easy stuff and slowly move up to harder maps
i have problems to lower my tapping speed so i can't get good acc and hit everything random
i don't think i can say anything to that other than "practice" :P
tap much harder
listen to the beat of the song it means u dont have good rhythm sense thats just it
@@noone-iq4ne a lot of people cant just understand how to alternate lowbpm, not because of rhythm sense
@@Toxic664 well then they should start at the very basic of things to gain finger control but rhythm sense is still important tho one of the fundamentals in osu
У меня видимо такая же проблема как и у друга твоего. 4200пп а стримы хоть убей. Сколько не практикуй, и техника правильная, но всё равно сасат. Реально, у меня видимо со средним пальцем анатомия какая то не такая. Тоже начал практиковать, и контроля больше и всё остальное. Кайффы. Я пробовал но не думал пересесть на эту технику полностью. Сейчас понимаю, что затупил
no idea if you'll respond but for bpms higher than 180 do you leave your fingers on the keycap and vice versa?
yeah
@@Toxic664 thanks, after trying this out my finger control is completely gone compared to lifting my fingers but my speed and stamina is def higher and i could def build it with practice
any advice if i forgot how to aim is it like reading
yeah, basically reading, i usually look at approach circles to help me with timings
if you forgot how to aim, you're either in a burnout or rusty, i think is only a reading issue if it happens in a specific AR
Whats the map that ended on 6:05
osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1016145#osu/2126752
Bro i don't get, how do you guys can stream 230 bpm, but 170 may be very inconvenient for you? I can do maximum 170, and i also can play well every bpm lower than 170. But my speed is completely shit, my fingers just can't tap faster than 170, that's the point. And i find out that my other hand is way faster
I'm personally in the same boat, it's likely technique issue where you tap hard on streams like you're alternating. Playing 240-270 bpm DT maps might help you with that. Not necessarily speed maps, a couple of bursts throughout the map is fine. And of course pushing your speed on 200-210 burst/stream maps nomod
What is this skin?
my skin i made drive.google.com/file/d/1nFGyb28j2EsJkwb208P-uJlmOAkHGy8j
how is from under cover 240 bpm
bpm edit
не могу жать 120 бпм :/
skin?
drive.google.com/file/d/1adO0NKBymA1ae_kkNTyu_wdWj1hZC9Z5
5:43 хотелось спросить совет, а что делать если не получается ни в какую расслабить руку? У меня она автоматом напрягается, я не могу это контролировать.
На тройках на берстах на всем, я заставлял расслабить руку, но особо результатов это не дало.
Даже на 160 бпм у меня финшерлоки(((
У тебя изначально такая проблема или ты получал какую-нибудь травму руки?
@@egorov-js2zq я не помню из-за чего, последний раз я нормально играл где-то с мая по июль 2020-о года.
При этом в мае у меня сломался кап из-за этого я немного в тильт ушел и перестал контролить выше 200bpm.
дальше я попытался научится прожимать всё тем пальцем которым я синглю, а то тройки прожимал как четверки(синглил указательным и начинал прожимать средним + дополнительное нажатие указательного пальца) по моему с этого и началось моё фингерлочантье. А ещё я начал замечать что я очень слабо жму по кнопкам, и начал пытаться сильно нажить, и тогда же начал лонги играть, которые неправильно учился жать, сильно напрягаю руку в неправильном положении.
Не знаю зачем я всё это понаписал, но я бы хотел избавиться от этого всего, и поиграть как нормальный человек, а то уже второй год с фингерлоками не знаю что делать
@@NIMKAOriginal У меня беды начались с декабря 21 года. Ударился указательным и большим пальцем, но к врачу не пошел. Пытался тапать и у меня сильно болел большой палец, в итоге просто забил и не плеил. Когда перестал болеть большой палец, то начались дикие фингерлоки. Большой палец творит дикую херню(ua-cam.com/video/SRkmpfFCRNo/v-deo.html), к тому же я перестал совершенно чувствовать указательный палец. Заметил, что я пиздато чувствую правую руку(могу синглить, альтить и ноль фингерлоко). Тапаю я кистью, в отличие от левой, где я держал руку на вису и предплечьем как-то плеил(хз как объяснить). Я пытался траить простые мапы, но даже на них меня фингерлочит(предположительно из-за большого пальца) и совсем не чувствую тапы(рука деревянная). Мне грустно тож, потому что я плеил во все моды(и мания, и тайко, и кэтч, и стд), а щас только стд(уже как месяц аимлю левой). Я тож хз зачем это написал, чтобы поныть,наверное. Но лучше челиков с похожими проблемами найти, чтоб помочь друг другу🤡
@@egorov-js2zq ты типо левшой решил стать?)))
@@egorov-js2zq кстати а когда безымянным и указательным пальцем играешь тебе не мешает сердний палец?
у меня он всегда начинает мешать только через примерно неделю игры на этом плейстайле, уже второй раз пытаюсь перейти, но никак
4 digit in the title is a bit clickbait
i mean i got thrown back into 5 digits only 2 months ago due to not farming much
могу жать ~210 бпм бурсты стабильно, не могу жать нормально 20+ нот 160 бпм стримы, что я делаю не так...
жиза
И вот опять я слышу знакомый акцент) Да как же мы друг друга узнаём?
только я без понятия кто ты
@@Toxic664 Я имею в виду то как мы русскоговорящие друг друга замечаем говоря по английски
@@ivansanfilippo4043 а, ну я б сказал что так не всегда происходит, тут от акцента зависит
Э, раз уж сделал такое видео, и раз уж ты из России, то будь добр, сделай пожалуйста видео на русском :3
Хотя видео уже пол года ._.
субтитры для кого есть?)
@@Toxic664 Ну субритры скучно, хотя тут смотреть особо не на что, но всё же, бывает что я не успеваю читать ._.