Fixing an Atari 2600 Vader: Replacing a Faulty Inductor and Discovering a TIA Chip Issue

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2024

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  • @PCBWay
    @PCBWay Рік тому +7

    Thx a ton for your SPECIAL recommendation here! Super excited to see more of our boards come into handy with your ideas 🥳

  • @granitepenguin
    @granitepenguin Рік тому +5

    Your narration delivery is brilliant. Just the right mix of foreshadowing and humor.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +2

      Thank you GP! That has put a big smile on my face :D

    • @CurtisOvard
      @CurtisOvard Рік тому +5

      His humor is so fun. I like how he makes fun of himself.

  • @8bitsinthebasement
    @8bitsinthebasement Рік тому +6

    Nice job on the A/V mod. I really love the "invisible" bracket that you've designed for the 3.5MM barrel jack, that was a really genius idea. Good job ;)

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      I honestly can't remember where I got the idea, but it's unlikely it was an original idea. I probably saw someone hot glue a socket in that gap and decided I could improve on it. Who knows? 😆

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel Рік тому +3

    It fixed itself! YAY! No it didn’t! BOO! What an emotional roller coaster.

  • @ShamrockParticle
    @ShamrockParticle Рік тому +1

    Thats cool how you keep the metal shield in. The hot glue to prevent cracking is brilliant. Great tips, thank you much!
    I wish that Vader had pulled through with that sound problem.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      It's just waiting for a suitable donor. I promise it will live again. 😁

  • @MrFixiit
    @MrFixiit Рік тому +4

    reminds me of that classic film Ferris Beads day off

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +3

      You know when your brain knows the word? But your mouth just wants to do its own thing?

  • @RavenWolfRetroTech
    @RavenWolfRetroTech Рік тому +3

    Nice video, I will forever more think of the multimeter as the beepy beepyness or, perhaps, the machine that goes Bing

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! Funny I got this comment at the exact time I was watching one of your videos 😆

  • @WhatHoSnorkers
    @WhatHoSnorkers Рік тому +2

    That bracket is clever... and so so close fo making it work!

  • @Rockythefishman
    @Rockythefishman Рік тому +2

    So case and yet so far. I really like the look of the Vader, the all black thing is just very cool. Its a shame that the one faulty chip is the expensive one. Just like a 48k ULA or a TED chip. Hopefully someone will find a way of making cheap replacements for these chips

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      I really hope they do. I bet it will be some time though. There are still a lot of spares around and a modern solution would probably be more expensive with current prices. Fingers crossed that changes soon and we might see a lot of these custom chips crossed off the list.

  • @RudysRetroIntel
    @RudysRetroIntel Рік тому +2

    Awww, you could have used the TinyComp and have both composite and TV out. Great work and video. Thanks for sharing

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +2

      Cheers Rudy! I'll look that up and maybe use that in a future one. 😁

    • @ShamrockParticle
      @ShamrockParticle Рік тому

      People still really want TV out/RF? 🫨 after dealing with an Atari 5200 and "The RF of Death"™️, I always do composite or s-video modifications and put RF into the bin where it belongs. RF is positively horrid, YUCK!

  • @leesmithsworkshop
    @leesmithsworkshop Рік тому +4

    when you asked for inductors the other day I assumed it was for an atari computer not a 2600, I have a Vader board some ware so should have that part you needed. I will look and see if it has a TIA chip, but I am sure you had the last spare one before.

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder Рік тому +1

    I was looking at the mod schematics. It's just two amplifiers this can be done even smaller with a TLC072 opamp, and since that has pretty much linear amplification you only need one amplifier circuit and three resistors. That could make it very small and you could just highjack the signals from the board with some wires, without having to remove the components. So you have both RF and composit. I always feel a bit bad taking original stuff out when modding. Ah @9:05 you gave your reasons for this type of mod :D You do you do ;) Awesome clean way to mount the "port hole" with that bracket!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      My electronics knowledge only goes so far as recognising which bits are on a schematic for fault finding. Creating circuits is way beyond me!
      Sounds interesting though. Would be nice to leave the modulator in place.

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder Рік тому +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt You could have fooled me Lee! I think you are under selling your skills. I love your channel and you and my channels sort of have the same cheeky edge. My content is a bit more outspoken and vulgar but hey, I am a kid of the 70s... We don't know what self censorship and political correctness is. Mommy and Daddy weren't home to teach us ;) (although unlike most GenX kids, I do not have that excuse :D) Have a great day Lee and keep up the brilliant work!

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      I will have to check your channel out! Thank you for the kind words 😁

  • @retrobitstv
    @retrobitstv Рік тому +4

    Good info, but I'm a bit unclear on one point: are you sponsored by PCBWay?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      I'm totally for sale. I just don't think they can afford me 🤣

  • @CurtisOvard
    @CurtisOvard Рік тому +1

    Another great video.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      Bit of a rush job this one. Been a bit busy this week!

  • @primokarma9841
    @primokarma9841 Рік тому +1

    Vader..
    He's a real Masterba... youtube won't let me finish that

  • @RetroSegaDev
    @RetroSegaDev Рік тому +2

    I wonder if PCBway would like to give you some nice retrospective sponsorship 😂

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +2

      I let them know and they said thank you. Thats all I needed :D

  • @ghost-retro3733
    @ghost-retro3733 Рік тому +1

    Good Video, as allways!

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder Рік тому +2

    Is it just my 80s upbringing who thought about Murdoch from the A-Team each time the word: "Thrashbag" was uttered?
    I vividly see him in his jail cell shout TRRRRAAAAASHHHBAG and the guards gave him a new trashbag that he cuddled and again....Traaaaaaashbaaaaag! *Spoiler alert* they filled the trashbags with helium to escape over the prison walls :D

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +2

      I must have missed that episode 🤣
      But I did always sympathise with Murdoch 😜

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder Рік тому +2

      @@MoreFunMakingIt I still have a little Murdoch action figure sitting on my desk, now on my Atari ST.
      Murdoch was the driving force of the A-Team, the wat they always caught him out of the psych ward, brilliant!

  • @renilddavidesisrivero2491
    @renilddavidesisrivero2491 Рік тому +1

    Greetings, friend, one question, it is possible that an atari junior board comes from the factory with a jumper on the back of the board, it is a little cable soldered to one of the pins of the cpu processor, middle chip and the The other end of the little cable is soldered to another pin of the graphics chip or TIA chip. Oh and the atari in question turns on, but it doesn't give video, that is, the red led turns on, but it doesn't even give the colored stripes, nor can the game be seen on the screen, much less, but how curious the atari turns on. It's a short rainbow atari junior, REVISION 2. That may be a friend, it will have something to do with the bridge so that the game cannot be seen on the screen. That bridge seems strange to me, what do you think friend?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      Ive never worked on a junior so far. I have one to do soon so maybe keep an eye out for that. Sorry I cant help more.

  • @Earths1stgamer
    @Earths1stgamer Рік тому +1

    I think its missing the channel selector on top right is the modulator 3 or 5 pin?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      I've never noticed a channel selector in one of these. I'll have to pay more attention.
      I'll check but I think it was 3 pin

    • @Earths1stgamer
      @Earths1stgamer Рік тому +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt The very top right is the NTSC channel selector if your PAL it may not loop power anyway 3 pin is the no channel selector modulator they are rare to see over here only came on heavy 6'ers and early 2600's before a channel select was introduced to avoid a broadcast channel.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      I'll put some pictures up on twitter a bit later

  • @renilddavidesisrivero2491
    @renilddavidesisrivero2491 Рік тому

    Greetings, friend here again, this time I dusted off my six lever VCS, light sixer, the atari in question turns on, gives video on the screen, but after three minutes of seeing the game on the screen, it loses the image, they seem as if it were blurred, the pixels of the figures in the game are dropped until the game is completely unviewable. I uncover it, check the voltage regulator and it shows me 5.1 volts on the output pin. I understand that it has to show 5 volts on the output pin, but in my atari it shows 5.1 volts on the output. I ask you, is this regulator good or bad, will this be the cause of the problem with my atari that the video of the game goes off the screen as I explained above. Please, what answer do you give me?
    Or rather the problem of my atari will be a malfunction of the chips, for example one of these, RIOT, CPU or TIA.

  • @pcm2012
    @pcm2012 Рік тому +1

    Why does the image in the Atari console look so dark? is that normal?

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      It's hard to say. The console was designed to display on 1970's TVs and I'm capturing an analogue signal it was never meant to output.
      I could probably tweak my display settings and make the picture brighter.

    • @pcm2012
      @pcm2012 Рік тому +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt I think you could also amplify the signal a bit with a transistor as some composite video mods for the Spectrum do. It fixed a dark screen on some Spectrum models like the Investronica clone of the ZX Spectrum +

  • @TheGunnarRoxen
    @TheGunnarRoxen 3 місяці тому +1

    *FERRITE! 😂😂😂

  • @projectfanboy
    @projectfanboy Рік тому +2

    Nothing worse than a job you think will be easy turning into a job your going to have to spend all day on.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      I was so sure of myself...

    • @projectfanboy
      @projectfanboy Рік тому +2

      @@MoreFunMakingIt You had me after the outro and then you said it fixed its self I was confused.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      Not as confused as I was! 😆

  • @KeonAureii
    @KeonAureii Рік тому +1

    Don't follow TFW8B's instructions on what parts to remove for the AV Mod. I had to revert on certain parts I shouldn't had to remove.

    • @KeonAureii
      @KeonAureii Рік тому +1

      I saw TFW8B (The future was 8 Bit) instructions on the 2600 Vader PAL and it doesn't say anywhere to remove the big brown inductor, I think you called it L205. In any case you should try to reinstall it and see what happens.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому +1

      I'm not sure if you watched the whole thing, but the big brown inductor was not part of the TFW8B's instructions. That was the part that was originally faulty.
      I followed their instructions exactly and it works perfectly. Maybe you had a slightly different revision?

    • @KeonAureii
      @KeonAureii Рік тому +1

      @@MoreFunMakingIt Oh okay. Still, I had an issue with my Atari 7800 by following their instructions and removed parts, and now I got a very weird video artifacting I hadn't in earlier tests. Also they didn't explained why removing resistors that are responsible for filtering audio signals, even one person in the comments there recommended to leave those resistors back in their place for that reason.

    • @MoreFunMakingIt
      @MoreFunMakingIt  Рік тому

      @@KeonAureii interesting. I have a 7800 to look at soon. I'll bear that mind

  • @kittyztigerz
    @kittyztigerz Рік тому +2

    you have me laughing when heard trash bag lol them later hear uh oh went on laughing lol ahh haahaha you brok trash bag lol