Another great video. I have 3 ST's and am trying not to get a fourth! Although I do want a STE model though. These are a cheaper alternate to an Amiga, although not as good. All 3 of mine have knackered floppy disk drives & I believe this is a common problem. You got yours for £20, one of mine cost me £28 it was upgraded to 1 meg & had an external working hard drive, an external hard drive, mono chrome monitor and some games. Wish I could find bargains like this more often.
That was a cracking bargain! With all the extras even better than mine! I've had a few comments saying "this isn't a realistic price" so I will pin your comment as evidence!
@@MoreFunMakingIt Yea, it was a good bargain. Probably the best bargain I had was a working Amiga 1200 with about 20 original boxed games and some joysticks which cost me £50.
Nice to see this video doing numbers, it's definitely one of your best - and not just because I'm in it 😉 So good to see this channel going from strength to strength!
I've a restored Atari ST waiting for exactly that upgrade. I have the parts and it's been on my job list for ages but it's nice to see someone else actually do it first. Particularly the solder removal method to use. I liked the style of that video, great job. 👍
Amazing video. Thanks for making and sharing this masterpiece of content! I bought my 520 STFM at the age of 15 in 1990. It was a very memorable and precious piece of computer for me. I remember the pride I felt when I upgraded the RAM on my own. I was lucky to get the chips on a sale and the sales man was so confused that I didn't buy two more for parity as the IBM PC compatibles wouldn't work without it. He warned me that the amount I asked for wouldn't be sufficient for a working RAM upgrade and I replied with a smile that I wouldn't put those into an IBM compatible but an Atari ST I was a proud owner of. I saw he had no Idea what I was talking about and he was sure I was wrong that I didn't buy the extra for parity. I loved so many things about the ST. The only thing I didn't like was the audio chip that made some games sound inferior compared to an Amiga. But hey at least I used a nice Motorola 68000 based machine and not a PC compatible we as kids despised at that time. :)
Great content! I came here via viewing Adrians Digital Basement-I'm a huge fan of retro computer content. Back in the day (at various times) I actually had a couple of machines on your wishlist-I'm raging that I disposed of them! Hindsight being 20/20 etc.
Thank you! I'm a huge Adrian fan. Instant watch everything he releases. Don't feel too bad about selling things. It's just part of the natural progression through the different machines. I wouldn't have been able to afford half the things I ended up buying if I hadn't made some easy cash from the previous ones.
Years ago I saved a Mega STE that was being retired as a register at a hobby shop. It was headed to the dump I was able to get two keyboards and a mouse all for $25. Still have it.
A few years ago I got an Atari 1040 STe from a charity shop for £2, looked a bit further and found a mouse, manual and Prince of Persia for an extra £1......Got it home, plugged it in, switched it on and to my amazement it worked perfectly. I was and still a happy bunny for that buy.
BARGAIN! They are out there! Even now. It's just a smaller pond and there's a lot of competing fish. I love my STE. I bought it for£40 from faceberk muppetplace year before last. Came with 2 pink Zipsticks worth the £40 on their own. Lovely machine!
First time seeing a video of yours and I'm sold! SUBBED! 55 year old CANADIAN who also loves old tech though I've nowhere near your skills I get the gist of what your doing and I appreciate your fun presentation and excellent presentation.
I saw your video and obviously you did a great work with the Atari! This machine ( and similar ones ) aren't still part of my collection... I've used them many years ago when there was a big big movement with Atari 520/1040St and Cubase. My wanted list it's still huge and very similar to yours and in the past i sold out some precious hardware i want to have back but without wasting TONS of money. Thanks to Brexit now it's very hard to get "cheap" stuff from UK ( i am in Italy).. in the past before all that, i was able to get a £9.99 untested Zx Spectrum 128 +2A that at the end worked perfectly so i agree with you, sometime it's very good to get working or almost working cheap stuff 🙂
Very very nice! I had a similar good fortune, I took the dogs for a walk around the neighborhood and came back to find the neighbor had placed out an entire C64 system including 1541, MPS802, 1702 monitor, and C2N data-sette. Just all placed out at the end of the driveway, took me about 25 seconds to trot it all inside the door! Thanks Joyce :)
Excellent! Its not too difficult. Removing solder from unpopulated holes is a lot less risky than removing chips. But go steady and dont rush, you'll be fine.
'Well their's your problem!' never gets old, we had a pile of these machines donated to our store a few years a go now and i really grew an appreciation for their capabilities and aesthetics.
A little distinction, if I may. What you have is "vintage" tech - Which is much more impressive. Although the definition is a bit blurry, the name "Retro" can mean both vintage and newly made to look like vintage- and to me, this would be considered "retro". However, nothing newly built to made to look old can be called "vintage". This is why I only call old machines "vintage" and newly built to look old, "retro". To be clear, you're not wrong for calling it "retro". I just think you have something worthy of a better title.
I like your dry wit! The Zoidberg animation was one of many nice bits added too. A couple jump zooms took me off guard, but I really did enjoy the presentation overall! 😊 Prices for ST computers in America are through the roof due to rarity. $500 and more with ease. Just for the main computer. Thet's arguably 40~50% too much for a tested operable unit, but rarity is the ultimate variable. Never seen a 6-socket ST with only 2 chips, usually the 6ers had 6 chips and 2 for the 2ers, of course. Nice socketing job and describing, and tips! Desolder pumps are a nightmare. Those vacuums can be better but I had some of the same problems. As with for you, adding new lead solder then vacuuming took care of it. But, wow, the ST had a more robust motherboard than the XE line, which are insanely fragile and the circuit traces can come off. I've been lucky so far, but - zoiks... I'd rather burn a finger than a trace.
Thank you for the nice comment! I've had the dubious pleasure of working on boards similar to the fragile one you describe. This one was a walk in the park in comparison. The normal price of an ST over here is much higher than I paid, around £75-150 for a good one. I got ridiculously lucky this time. But saying that I'm a patient man and only buy things if they're a bargain. My other Atari STe only cost me £40 and came with 2 pristine Zipsticks! Just takes a lot of work to keep checking the ads.
Great video. Very odd about those games, I don't remember any that wouldn't run in 512k. Maybe it's a TOS version compatibility issue requiring more RAM (my ST had 1.02 which played nicely with most games and demos).
I really like your channel! Happy to get in on the ground floor of what I expect will be a growing channel... and let me come over to yours and play all your games plz.... I'll bring the beers!
@@MoreFunMakingIt 😂... thanks... I will be retrieving it this week & firing up some old games & see if it still works, i remember many yrs ago i upgraded the memory on but an external h/d would have been a cool thing too. Dungeon master... here we come.
It's an ASCI2SD which is a very simple board that just uses a blue pill and a couple of other components. There are a few different versions. Ill dm you a link to the github
Love the video, heck I love all the videos, but I just picked up an Atari ST 1040STe for similar reasons so this one really hit. In the video you said you would put a link to the eBay seller for the chip tester, can't see it in the description? Would you be able to whack it on a pinned comment, or maybe edit the description?
Well bargains like that don't happen here in New Zealand. You'd have to strike the garage or estate sale lottery. An old ZX81 will be $150 minimum. An old spectrum closer to $250. Commodore 64s around $300 minimum. Amstrad or Atari 400 or 800 ditto.
Well, if it is so cheap in the UK... I'll buy it from you for double (40). Unless you get it from a neighbor. Of course on e-b-ay pages in the UK, they are expensive, like in Spain. Greetings from spain and good work.
I’ve always had somewhat of a retro tech addiction going back to my teenage years but it ramped up in 2017 and then REALLY ramped up in 2020 during lockdown. I’ve probably tripled my collection since then. Send help!
I had a 1040 STE till I got my first Mac in 1998. Wish I’d kept it because the emulators available are garbage and don’t even allow customisation of input devices so you can end up having to use the select button as the fire button in games. Also had a Neo Geo (home arcade system not handheld), a SNES and a PS2. Got rid of all of them and regret it.
That was me for a while. During lockdowns all I had to keep me going was ebay and its crazy prices. That being said I've still had some cracking bargains from ebay. From memory - 2x 48k spectrums in unknown condition for £20 buy it now. I snapped that up! Both of them worked too! Like anything, to get the bargains you have to be both persistent and very lucky.
@@MoreFunMakingIt I bought most of my stuff between 1995-2010 sort of time frame but I wouldn't want to buy all this gear now. I was looking at the price of CDTV units the other day on ebay, totally crazy sold for prices never mind some of the optimistic buy it now prices. I suppose I could sell two of mine and use that to buy an Amiga 3000 to complete my Commodore collection but I'd rather sell half my collection and buy a mint condition 1990 BMW 325i and drive around in it :) It was fun when it was cheap, it's not fun now when all the things I forgot to buy a decade ago, like OutRun for the PC Engine, are going to cost me £100+ Most of my hobby is finding ways to get emulator files running on base spec hardware (a500, 520ST, amstrad 464, speccy +2 etc). and Gotek and cassette adaptors are great for that. Once yous start looking for flashcarts for the consoles then the price ramps up again and ebay is one of the few places I trust with my card number so I gave up on that too. It is great having just about everything ever made BUT the expenses are never ending it seems and there are other things I can spend my money on that will go up in value even more reliably than my Atari 260ST or Amiga 4000/040 etc, like said classic 1990s BMW.
I don't know what kind of bullsh*t collection you got for the machine, but MOST of the games were designed to run on 512K. That actually became a problem later on, when good features were scrapped in favor of less memory. Most of the games run on 512K.
I originally purchased my first STFM in 1988, here in Canada. With a color monitor, it cost over $1000 CAD. Bringing the ram to one megabyte cost me almost $400 extra. 3 months later, I was introduced to an Amiga and 2 weeks after that, my savings were fully depleted and my ST love was replaced with an Amiga 500. Today though, I enjoy both machines.
Those of us that experienced these machines in the time they were current tech all had different things influencing how we would rate them. From the competition the machines had, to the peer group we had, and hundreds of other factors, like age and location. Its really interesting to hear other people's experiences. Too many people just write certain machines off because such and such machine was technically "better". Doesn't mean a thing now. If better is the only metric go buy a state of the art PC or latest games console.
@@MoreFunMakingIt Coming from an 8 bit 130xe to a 520STFM and stumbling onto a ground breaking title such as Dungeon Master in 1988, was simply magic. I do own current consoles, but still enjoy going back to the 80s and 90s. I still find the more simplistic, arcade-like experiences of those time period computers so rewarding.👍
I've been told by @galier2 that the problem loading all the games was the hard drive driver taking up too much memory. They probably would work fine off floppy.
This sounds right. Most Atari ST games were designed to work in 512K, some with enhancements for 1MB. Pirate copies or hard drive versions are often tweaked to require 1MB so they can load more (or all) of the game into RAM at once, so if you're using a hard drive/flash solution 1MB is probably a minimum.
I'm not keen on the camera jump cuts. They feel like a slap in the face designed to make people jump. I've seen this more and more and am tempted to just listen than look, even if it means missing some visual cues.
@@ShamrockParticle They're actually designed to hide the edges. Some people use them just to break up the flow, but I use them to hide the joints between sections of me talking and pausing. I cut the pause out and just leave the cut it looks nasty, put a little zoom in there and it makes it look more natural. Sorry if it doesn't suit you, but not much I can do about that! :D
The clip with Rees made it totally worth it! 🤣🤣🤣 There is fun to be had on the Atari. Mostly with the productivity programs in Hi Res modes. The lack of smooth scrolling on the ST versions of games makes my Commodore 64 laugh
Your videos get better and better. 👏 Love the parcel throwing out takes at the end. I'm just imagining the conversation, " can you come down the garage and throw a parcel at me" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
Very nice. Great bargain. I got a 1040 STf myself a while back also with a faulty disk drive; but I think it's a mechanical failure because I can't insert disks into it. I found it for €100 with shipping but had to pay custom charges and VAT which added around 50% to the price in total. Have since gotten a GoTek, a 2nd external drive, some disks, and also an ACSI to micro SD device. I now only need some newer ROMs (my machine has a German layout so I'm thinking why not German 1.04? (und ich brauche die Übung)), and to upgrade the memory from 1 MB to 4 MB. Buuuut... I will need some practice with a soldering iron first. But I do like the machine and it will sit nice next to my Amiga 500 and Commodore 128. Well until I find an STe that is. :) Great video, Lee.
My Atari mega st2 was 6 pounds in very good condition (20 years ago) , vectrex 12 pounds , spectrum with microspeech , interface one , two microdrives , datel plus interface + discdrive + printer 50 pounds
I have 2 amiga500 computer's in their original boxes and they rarely come out as i have an amiga emulator on my laptop...the atari ST shared the same motorola processor as the amiga and so in essence most amiga games were simply port overs of the st version...some software was amiga specific but overall the experience was the same...great stuff none the less.
That was pretty funny. I was imagining you in that guys house wanting to pay and get out of there haha. I don't know much about these line of computers. It was great to see it working, before and after the memory upgrade. Nice job!
Great find!! Video was entertaining and informative. Highly recommend replacing all the caps. Have a 520 here as well and haven't used it. It throws bombs so it probably needs a new shifter or MMU but I see a whole mobo with updated ROMS that is probably the best route.
Paul! First of all thank you for the lovely comment 😁 Secondly, I just had a nose around your own channel and that's some excellent content you've got there! I notice you're not on twitter, which is a pain as I have a need to talk to you. Is there a chance you could join my discord so I can pick your brain? Link is in the description 😉
Good memories. Did a lot of work on these when I was young. Even made a memory expansion using SIMMs you could get from Apple users for free, with a decoder and a huge amount of wires to where the RAM chips would be. I think I had 2.5MB in that ST. Didn't fit in its case by the way. There was also an 68020 upgrade board, piggybacked over the CPU. And a PC emulator that worked quite well, a daughterboard that also went over the 68000. The PC-Speed made by Sack (German company). I remember you had to cut 1 pin off the 68000 and wire it.. Installed quite a lot of these.
hi lee, great video.. what a great buy, i bought an ST last year.. 520stfm for 70notes. it works, but i daren't look inside.. i had one in 1988 so it was a bit of nostalgia for me to get one. however, like you, i realised I couldn't load any games on it. i did a little research and discovered it wasn't upgradeable.. i boxed it back up.. i've never soldered anything in my life so wouldn't really know where to start.. so for now.. it's gathering dust. til i decide what to do with it.
Really enjoy your narration Lee, u as a good way wif wurds init! Great new format, works really well, bravo. I absolutely love a bit of UA-camr Collab, Mr Rees is a v good sport, counting his solar money 😅. Bravo! Bravo!
New sub, enjoyed your video. The bloopers at the end were hilarious. Also, very relaxing watching someone solder all of those points on the back of the board.
That’s a great deal Lee! I love the ST but I have to admit that I made a mistake buying it in the day over the Amiga. I now have some amigas and I have to say they are actually more fun and easier to program. The reason I had an ST, next to my XT was for MIDI recording and Cubase and being a cheap skate for not wanting to shell out an additional 50 guilders for a MIDI interface on top of the already almost 200 guilders that the Amiga cost more than the ST. And I recorded a lot on that machine and programmed a bit but and liked it. But it wasn’t love like the C64.
@@MoreFunMakingIt isn’t that the truth. But all it takes is just waiting 31-32 years and you can have what you wanted for a couple of quid 🤣My mom always said: “good things for to those who wait.”
Superb ,i thought mine was cheap in good condition for £34 though drive is not reading disc my spare drive that was working also does not read maybe its a machine fault ,i have not looked into it ,i need a gotek.
any ideas where i can get a replacement upper case for the atari st please..?..i bought one off ebay and it arrived damaged so need a replacement...thanks.
Nice machine! This was my first ST in 1987. The 520 + 360K disk drive. Excellent machine for all kids of tasks, but the games were my favorite part. This machine would be a few $100 in the USA right now. Those hard drive versions usually need 1MB at least because the hard drive driver takes up too much memory, With GoteK SD floppy replacement you cab play 95% of the originally released games.
Another great video. I have 3 ST's and am trying not to get a fourth! Although I do want a STE model though. These are a cheaper alternate to an Amiga, although not as good. All 3 of mine have knackered floppy disk drives & I believe this is a common problem. You got yours for £20, one of mine cost me £28 it was upgraded to 1 meg & had an external working hard drive, an external hard drive, mono chrome monitor and some games. Wish I could find bargains like this more often.
That was a cracking bargain! With all the extras even better than mine! I've had a few comments saying "this isn't a realistic price" so I will pin your comment as evidence!
@@MoreFunMakingIt Yea, it was a good bargain. Probably the best bargain I had was a working Amiga 1200 with about 20 original boxed games and some joysticks which cost me £50.
Superb! Although I have that beat. My 1200 was free. Best mate kept his from back then and gave it to me for a Christmas present
Nice to see this video doing numbers, it's definitely one of your best - and not just because I'm in it 😉
So good to see this channel going from strength to strength!
Helps when you surround yourself with awesome people to learn from 😍
Only £20? You were extremely lucky. I would love to buy 5 of them for this price ;)
Ill be round later to buy 4 of them off you for a tenner!
@@MoreFunMakingIt Of course I meant to 5 of them for £20 each :)
@@tiemanowo booo! I'm now crushed. 😆
That's my thought too. The title is a little "misleading", as it is extremely hard to spot one for that price! Nevertheless, great video.
They are 10 times that price on ebay
I've a restored Atari ST waiting for exactly that upgrade. I have the parts and it's been on my job list for ages but it's nice to see someone else actually do it first. Particularly the solder removal method to use. I liked the style of that video, great job. 👍
Definitely add some fresh solder. That made a massive difference. Thanks for the compliment :D
Amazing video. Thanks for making and sharing this masterpiece of content! I bought my 520 STFM at the age of 15 in 1990. It was a very memorable and precious piece of computer for me. I remember the pride I felt when I upgraded the RAM on my own. I was lucky to get the chips on a sale and the sales man was so confused that I didn't buy two more for parity as the IBM PC compatibles wouldn't work without it. He warned me that the amount I asked for wouldn't be sufficient for a working RAM upgrade and I replied with a smile that I wouldn't put those into an IBM compatible but an Atari ST I was a proud owner of. I saw he had no Idea what I was talking about and he was sure I was wrong that I didn't buy the extra for parity. I loved so many things about the ST. The only thing I didn't like was the audio chip that made some games sound inferior compared to an Amiga. But hey at least I used a nice Motorola 68000 based machine and not a PC compatible we as kids despised at that time. :)
68k forever!
Thank you for sharing your memories 😁 that was really lovely.
I do love it when the shop "expert" tries to tell me I'm wrong 🤣
Great content!
I came here via viewing Adrians Digital Basement-I'm a huge fan of retro computer content.
Back in the day (at various times) I actually had a couple of machines on your wishlist-I'm raging that I disposed of them! Hindsight being 20/20 etc.
Thank you! I'm a huge Adrian fan. Instant watch everything he releases.
Don't feel too bad about selling things. It's just part of the natural progression through the different machines. I wouldn't have been able to afford half the things I ended up buying if I hadn't made some easy cash from the previous ones.
I love it when the YT algorithm works and actually recommends me something new AND good!
Thank you! It's been a lot of work to get youtube to finally take notice, but hopefully it's now starting to pay off.
Years ago I saved a Mega STE that was being retired as a register at a hobby shop. It was headed to the dump I was able to get two keyboards and a mouse all for $25. Still have it.
Oh that's very cool!
Love the new improved formula. Great production, more please!
😁 It's easier working this way. Definitely the way forward for me.
A few years ago I got an Atari 1040 STe from a charity shop for £2, looked a bit further and found a mouse, manual and Prince of Persia for an extra £1......Got it home, plugged it in, switched it on and to my amazement it worked perfectly. I was and still a happy bunny for that buy.
BARGAIN! They are out there! Even now. It's just a smaller pond and there's a lot of competing fish. I love my STE. I bought it for£40 from faceberk muppetplace year before last. Came with 2 pink Zipsticks worth the £40 on their own. Lovely machine!
First time seeing a video of yours and I'm sold! SUBBED! 55 year old CANADIAN who also loves old tech though I've nowhere near your skills I get the gist of what your doing and I appreciate your fun presentation and excellent presentation.
Well thank you for the very kind words! You just made my day :D
I love this new format. Also nice cameo with ctl alt Rees. LOLZ "there's your problem"
😆 I watch a lot of Mustie1 and he's always saying that when he cracks open an engine and it's full of rust.
Love it! Looking forward to finding more ST videos.
Soon as I find a broke one!
Great vidoe presentation, nice, clear voice without ums and ahs. Best wishes to your channel!
Thank you!
Nice collab! Also luckily you wear glasses looking at those out takes!!
Should have worn a crash hat!
I saw your video and obviously you did a great work with the Atari! This machine ( and similar ones ) aren't still part of my collection... I've used them many years ago when there was a big big movement with Atari 520/1040St and Cubase. My wanted list it's still huge and very similar to yours and in the past i sold out some precious hardware i want to have back but without wasting TONS of money. Thanks to Brexit now it's very hard to get "cheap" stuff from UK ( i am in Italy).. in the past before all that, i was able to get a £9.99 untested Zx Spectrum 128 +2A that at the end worked perfectly so i agree with you, sometime it's very good to get working or almost working cheap stuff 🙂
Thank you for sharing your memories. I love reading these. Hope you get your list completed one day!
Very very nice! I had a similar good fortune, I took the dogs for a walk around the neighborhood and came back to find the neighbor had placed out an entire C64 system including 1541, MPS802, 1702 monitor, and C2N data-sette. Just all placed out at the end of the driveway, took me about 25 seconds to trot it all inside the door!
Thanks Joyce :)
That's a score! I love hearing that kind of thing. Wish it happened more (to me 🤣)
Great vid! Ouch on those outtakes! 😂
Thank you! I suffer for my art. 😆
Wow you are a smashing fellow ! Nice vid and good luck with all your collection !
Thank you! You're smashing too!
Awesome job. You've piqued my interest in having a look see whether I can do the same with the one I have now ....
Excellent! Its not too difficult. Removing solder from unpopulated holes is a lot less risky than removing chips. But go steady and dont rush, you'll be fine.
Not only the STEs had an Blitter, also the Mega ST Series had them!
That's a machine I am yet to look at! Thanks for the info!
my 1st 16bit computer , I upgraded my single drive to a dual
Great video. I have absolutely no interest in Atari's and yet watched your video to the end, you're obviously doing something right.
Thank you! Just hopped over to your channel and had a quick look, as you do! Love it! Will be checking that Nascom video out tomorrow for sure :D
That's what I like to see, an Atari ST video. Good to see Rees making a cameo too!
Everyone loves Rees. The man's a comedy genius!
I love the video. Very entertaining, funny and informative!
Glad you enjoyed it! 😁
Mr Roe getting a shoutout 10:24 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm so glad you timestamped that or I would have just thought you were really bad at spelling Rees! 🤣
Nice pick up you jammy git! Nice mod, loved the blooper reel.
Cheers Taz! 😁
'Well their's your problem!' never gets old, we had a pile of these machines donated to our store a few years a go now and i really grew an appreciation for their capabilities and aesthetics.
They're a fantastic looking wedge micro. Shame most of them are disintegrating now. This one was perfect, but my STE is very brittle
A little distinction, if I may. What you have is "vintage" tech - Which is much more impressive. Although the definition is a bit blurry, the name "Retro" can mean both vintage and newly made to look like vintage- and to me, this would be considered "retro". However, nothing newly built to made to look old can be called "vintage". This is why I only call old machines "vintage" and newly built to look old, "retro".
To be clear, you're not wrong for calling it "retro". I just think you have something worthy of a better title.
Atari STs all survived because they don't have exploding batteries in them. Amiga, you're paying the 'Varta battery tax.'
I like your laugh in the intro. 20 pounds?!? Unfair for sure. 😂
😁 I know I got really lucky. Probably annoyed a few people 🤣
I like your dry wit! The Zoidberg animation was one of many nice bits added too. A couple jump zooms took me off guard, but I really did enjoy the presentation overall! 😊
Prices for ST computers in America are through the roof due to rarity. $500 and more with ease. Just for the main computer. Thet's arguably 40~50% too much for a tested operable unit, but rarity is the ultimate variable.
Never seen a 6-socket ST with only 2 chips, usually the 6ers had 6 chips and 2 for the 2ers, of course.
Nice socketing job and describing, and tips! Desolder pumps are a nightmare. Those vacuums can be better but I had some of the same problems. As with for you, adding new lead solder then vacuuming took care of it. But, wow, the ST had a more robust motherboard than the XE line, which are insanely fragile and the circuit traces can come off. I've been lucky so far, but - zoiks... I'd rather burn a finger than a trace.
Thank you for the nice comment!
I've had the dubious pleasure of working on boards similar to the fragile one you describe. This one was a walk in the park in comparison.
The normal price of an ST over here is much higher than I paid, around £75-150 for a good one. I got ridiculously lucky this time. But saying that I'm a patient man and only buy things if they're a bargain. My other Atari STe only cost me £40 and came with 2 pristine Zipsticks!
Just takes a lot of work to keep checking the ads.
Excellent and fun video!! Thanks for sharing
Thank you Rudy! Glad you enjoyed it 😁
@@MoreFunMakingIt Always do ;)
Great video. Very odd about those games, I don't remember any that wouldn't run in 512k. Maybe it's a TOS version compatibility issue requiring more RAM (my ST had 1.02 which played nicely with most games and demos).
No, it's the hardisk drivers for the ACSI2SD that take up a little bit too much memory.
That makes sense! I was really surprised hardly any of them worked. I will pin your message as its good info I wish I could add to the video.
I really like your channel! Happy to get in on the ground floor of what I expect will be a growing channel... and let me come over to yours and play all your games plz.... I'll bring the beers!
They're not for playing! They're to be watched carefully until they break again 😆
But beer does sound good.
@@MoreFunMakingIt hah true true re just for watching
Still got mine under the stairs with a large box of games 👍
I'll give you £20 for it 😉🤣
@@MoreFunMakingIt 😂... thanks...
I will be retrieving it this week & firing up some old games & see if it still works, i remember many yrs ago i upgraded the memory on but an external h/d would have been a cool thing too.
Dungeon master... here we come.
Have fun!
STFM: Sheet The Freaking Manual.
Nice job, more of an Amiga person myself but i enjoyed watching this.
Glad you enjoyed it! 😁
Curious as to what the SD HDD adapter was that you used?
It's an ASCI2SD which is a very simple board that just uses a blue pill and a couple of other components. There are a few different versions. Ill dm you a link to the github
Love the video, heck I love all the videos, but I just picked up an Atari ST 1040STe for similar reasons so this one really hit.
In the video you said you would put a link to the eBay seller for the chip tester, can't see it in the description? Would you be able to whack it on a pinned comment, or maybe edit the description?
Oh! Thanks for the reminder!
I'll edit the description in s moment 😁
@@MoreFunMakingIt thanks, have just ordered one.
I think some one had way too much fun throwing things at your face 😉
I got suspicious when she kept asking for more takes!
You got lucky with a board where the custom chips are socketed, in case something breaks, later revisions had the custom chips soldered to the board.
Oh really!?
That's handy to know
Well bargains like that don't happen here in New Zealand. You'd have to strike the garage or estate sale lottery. An old ZX81 will be $150 minimum. An old spectrum closer to $250. Commodore 64s around $300 minimum. Amstrad or Atari 400 or 800 ditto.
I got very very lucky. Our auction prices are not a million miles away from yours. But its not the first time, and I hope not the last!
Obviously, Mrs. Lee enjoyed throwing stuff at you! 😂
The only shock here is she missed once!
@@MoreFunMakingIt true love!
600th like... . thanks for the fun and info!!!
Thats a channel record by MILES! Thanks for watching :D
Nice deal! I need a new D key for my STE and some people are selling single ST keys for more than you paid for an entire system.
Parts are always crazy expensive. I got really lucky with this one though, probably my best bargain so far
Buen trabajo.👍
Thanks mate! 😁
Well, if it is so cheap in the UK... I'll buy it from you for double (40).
Unless you get it from a neighbor. Of course on e-b-ay pages in the UK, they are expensive, like in Spain.
Greetings from spain and good work.
Not a very tempting offer! 😆
I’ve always had somewhat of a retro tech addiction going back to my teenage years but it ramped up in 2017 and then REALLY ramped up in 2020 during lockdown. I’ve probably tripled my collection since then. Send help!
The only help I can offer is to allow you to drop your collection round at my workshop...
I had a 1040 STE till I got my first Mac in 1998. Wish I’d kept it because the emulators available are garbage and don’t even allow customisation of input devices so you can end up having to use the select button as the fire button in games. Also had a Neo Geo (home arcade system not handheld), a SNES and a PS2. Got rid of all of them and regret it.
God damn it
Sorry! 😜
What type of solder did you use? 🤔
Loctite multicore
@@MoreFunMakingIt Cheers!🙂 Does diameter matter?🤔
wow
£20 ???
I don't believe it !
Ah, you got it over a year ago.
To be fair even back then it was an unbelievable price! I got very very lucky
I throughly enjoyed this video! Thank you /|\
Thank you Gary!
Atari ST 1040's go for around 150,= to 200,= euros in the Netherlands... 😞
They're not usually this cheap here. I just got very very lucky.
I'm not sure it's a good idea to get my wife to throw stuff at me, she might get too into it.
I've not been able to stop mine!
Some people have to rely on ebay and those prices are too much for most things.
That was me for a while. During lockdowns all I had to keep me going was ebay and its crazy prices. That being said I've still had some cracking bargains from ebay. From memory - 2x 48k spectrums in unknown condition for £20 buy it now. I snapped that up! Both of them worked too! Like anything, to get the bargains you have to be both persistent and very lucky.
@@MoreFunMakingIt I bought most of my stuff between 1995-2010 sort of time frame but I wouldn't want to buy all this gear now. I was looking at the price of CDTV units the other day on ebay, totally crazy sold for prices never mind some of the optimistic buy it now prices. I suppose I could sell two of mine and use that to buy an Amiga 3000 to complete my Commodore collection but I'd rather sell half my collection and buy a mint condition 1990 BMW 325i and drive around in it :) It was fun when it was cheap, it's not fun now when all the things I forgot to buy a decade ago, like OutRun for the PC Engine, are going to cost me £100+ Most of my hobby is finding ways to get emulator files running on base spec hardware (a500, 520ST, amstrad 464, speccy +2 etc). and Gotek and cassette adaptors are great for that. Once yous start looking for flashcarts for the consoles then the price ramps up again and ebay is one of the few places I trust with my card number so I gave up on that too. It is great having just about everything ever made BUT the expenses are never ending it seems and there are other things I can spend my money on that will go up in value even more reliably than my Atari 260ST or Amiga 4000/040 etc, like said classic 1990s BMW.
It's a strange hobby! It's much too easy to get carried away. I hope you get your beemer!
Where can i buy atari for 20-50 $
In the early 2000's. I don't think this was a regular price, I just got super lucky.
What does "scarpared" mean? Asking for a friend. From the United States.
It means to run away in a shifty manner 😁
I don't know what kind of bullsh*t collection you got for the machine, but MOST of the games were designed to run on 512K. That actually became a problem later on, when good features were scrapped in favor of less memory. Most of the games run on 512K.
ebay atari 520 stfm $500
Location is everything. Couple recently sold on ebay UK for less than £50 including games and joysticks
yea thats way with uk computers, a fortune over here dirt cheap over there. been looking for an amiga forever and they are just outrageous in the US
@@tylerd4884 it's similar for us trying to buy Apple II's and Atari 400/800. One day I'm going to sail over there with a suitcase full of Spectrum's 😂
Great video
Cheers Stuart! :D
I originally purchased my first STFM in 1988, here in Canada. With a color monitor, it cost over $1000 CAD. Bringing the ram to one megabyte cost me almost $400 extra. 3 months later, I was introduced to an Amiga and 2 weeks after that, my savings were fully depleted and my ST love was replaced with an Amiga 500. Today though, I enjoy both machines.
Those of us that experienced these machines in the time they were current tech all had different things influencing how we would rate them. From the competition the machines had, to the peer group we had, and hundreds of other factors, like age and location. Its really interesting to hear other people's experiences. Too many people just write certain machines off because such and such machine was technically "better". Doesn't mean a thing now. If better is the only metric go buy a state of the art PC or latest games console.
@@MoreFunMakingIt Coming from an 8 bit 130xe to a 520STFM and stumbling onto a ground breaking title such as Dungeon Master in 1988, was simply magic. I do own current consoles, but still enjoy going back to the 80s and 90s. I still find the more simplistic, arcade-like experiences of those time period computers so rewarding.👍
One of the best videos. Really engaging, numerous but also informative and fun! Great to see the channel and you growing in harmony MFMI 👏
Thank you Jonathan! 😁
Just replying 10:46 in to say I’ve never seen someone hold components with masking tape and I think it’s really clever. Making a mental note 🫡
Brilliant! Try not to use the cheap stuff though. That doesnt peel off quite so neatly.
I've been told by @galier2 that the problem loading all the games was the hard drive driver taking up too much memory. They probably would work fine off floppy.
This sounds right. Most Atari ST games were designed to work in 512K, some with enhancements for 1MB. Pirate copies or hard drive versions are often tweaked to require 1MB so they can load more (or all) of the game into RAM at once, so if you're using a hard drive/flash solution 1MB is probably a minimum.
I use blue painters tape as well to hold down components. Works like a charm!! :)
Great minds! 😁
This is your best video yet, Lee. Love the new format, and love the contributions from Rees, your parcel delivery person and the other Lee. 👍
Thanks mate! Really enjoyed making this one. I'm desperate to get cracking on the next one. Hopefully I've not peaked!
I'm not keen on the camera jump cuts. They feel like a slap in the face designed to make people jump. I've seen this more and more and am tempted to just listen than look, even if it means missing some visual cues.
@@ShamrockParticle They're actually designed to hide the edges. Some people use them just to break up the flow, but I use them to hide the joints between sections of me talking and pausing. I cut the pause out and just leave the cut it looks nasty, put a little zoom in there and it makes it look more natural. Sorry if it doesn't suit you, but not much I can do about that! :D
Expecting to get an ST for 20 pounds is unrealistic. The cheapest I ve seen in the past couple of years was 100 EUR.
I didn't expect it 😉
I can't believe that pcb still works !!! has the copper gone green yet ?
Nope! Still looks the same 😁
The clip with Rees made it totally worth it! 🤣🤣🤣
There is fun to be had on the Atari. Mostly with the productivity programs in Hi Res modes. The lack of smooth scrolling on the ST versions of games makes my Commodore 64 laugh
Rees is a legend! 🤩
I'm looking forward to finally getting some proper hands on time with my ST's when the workshop rebuild is finished.
As should your C64's Sound Chip and I say that as an ex-C64 abd 520STFM owner.
Your videos get better and better. 👏 Love the parcel throwing out takes at the end. I'm just imagining the conversation, " can you come down the garage and throw a parcel at me" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
Word for word exactly what happened! 🤣
Very nice. Great bargain. I got a 1040 STf myself a while back also with a faulty disk drive; but I think it's a mechanical failure because I can't insert disks into it. I found it for €100 with shipping but had to pay custom charges and VAT which added around 50% to the price in total. Have since gotten a GoTek, a 2nd external drive, some disks, and also an ACSI to micro SD device. I now only need some newer ROMs (my machine has a German layout so I'm thinking why not German 1.04? (und ich brauche die Übung)), and to upgrade the memory from 1 MB to 4 MB. Buuuut... I will need some practice with a soldering iron first. But I do like the machine and it will sit nice next to my Amiga 500 and Commodore 128. Well until I find an STe that is. :) Great video, Lee.
One of the most entertaining presentations I have seen in quite a while. Addiction is a wonderful thing !
Thank you! Im glad you enjoyed it.
My Atari mega st2 was 6 pounds in very good condition (20 years ago) , vectrex 12 pounds , spectrum with microspeech , interface one , two microdrives , datel plus interface + discdrive + printer 50 pounds
I have 2 amiga500 computer's in their original boxes and they rarely come out as i have an amiga emulator on my laptop...the atari ST shared the same motorola processor as the amiga and so in essence most amiga games were simply port overs of the st version...some software was amiga specific but overall the experience was the same...great stuff none the less.
That was pretty funny. I was imagining you in that guys house wanting to pay and get out of there haha. I don't know much about these line of computers. It was great to see it working, before and after the memory upgrade. Nice job!
Thank you! They were very popular over here, just after the ZX Spectrum and before the Commodore Amiga.
The Mega ST did have a Blitter, though. I would count the Mega into the ST line.
Great find!! Video was entertaining and informative. Highly recommend replacing all the caps. Have a 520 here as well and haven't used it. It throws bombs so it probably needs a new shifter or MMU but I see a whole mobo with updated ROMS that is probably the best route.
Thank you!
Saw this channel mentioned on the RMC. Loving it. You’ve got yourself a new subscriber, good sir.
Fantastic! Neil is a legend 😁
That’s a good deal. I’d be happy to get a Falcon030 for twice that!
That sounds like a fair price to me 😉
Excellent video! Loving the content, the presentation style and your commitment to taking a package to the face!
Paul! First of all thank you for the lovely comment 😁
Secondly, I just had a nose around your own channel and that's some excellent content you've got there!
I notice you're not on twitter, which is a pain as I have a need to talk to you.
Is there a chance you could join my discord so I can pick your brain? Link is in the description 😉
You should definitely look for ST audio software with sampling capabilities.
One day! 😁
Oh the new format is funky! Although it's a little speedier in pace, I found it harder to keep on track with.
Thanks mate!
I'll refine it as I go. Hopefully it will make better sense when I'm more practiced.
for £20? On which planet ?
Good memories. Did a lot of work on these when I was young. Even made a memory expansion using SIMMs you could get from Apple users for free, with a decoder and a huge amount of wires to where the RAM chips would be. I think I had 2.5MB in that ST. Didn't fit in its case by the way.
There was also an 68020 upgrade board, piggybacked over the CPU.
And a PC emulator that worked quite well, a daughterboard that also went over the 68000. The PC-Speed made by Sack (German company). I remember you had to cut 1 pin off the 68000 and wire it.. Installed quite a lot of these.
Sounds like a lot of great memories tied up with the Atari for you! Thanks for sharing :D
hi lee, great video.. what a great buy, i bought an ST last year.. 520stfm for 70notes. it works, but i daren't look inside.. i had one in 1988 so it was a bit of nostalgia for me to get one. however, like you, i realised I couldn't load any games on it. i did a little research and discovered it wasn't upgradeable.. i boxed it back up.. i've never soldered anything in my life so wouldn't really know where to start.. so for now.. it's gathering dust. til i decide what to do with it.
Thank you Baz!
Shame your Atari is one of the tricky ones. There are ways to upgrade them, but they're much more tricky than the one I showed.
Really enjoy your narration Lee, u as a good way wif wurds init! Great new format, works really well, bravo. I absolutely love a bit of UA-camr Collab, Mr Rees is a v good sport, counting his solar money 😅. Bravo! Bravo!
Thanks Chris! Rees is a legend 😍
New sub, enjoyed your video. The bloopers at the end were hilarious. Also, very relaxing watching someone solder all of those points on the back of the board.
Welcome to the channel! Thank you for the kind words 😁 and for laughing at my face. 😉
That’s a great deal Lee!
I love the ST but I have to admit that I made a mistake buying it in the day over the Amiga.
I now have some amigas and I have to say they are actually more fun and easier to program.
The reason I had an ST, next to my XT was for MIDI recording and Cubase and being a cheap skate for not wanting to shell out an additional 50 guilders for a MIDI interface on top of the already almost 200 guilders that the Amiga cost more than the ST.
And I recorded a lot on that machine and programmed a bit but and liked it. But it wasn’t love like the C64.
We always covet the things we didn't have 😆
@@MoreFunMakingIt isn’t that the truth. But all it takes is just waiting 31-32 years and you can have what you wanted for a couple of quid 🤣My mom always said: “good things for to those who wait.”
I always think of only I knew. But I think even if I did know back then I would still have sold all my stuff anyway. I used to live in the moment!
Superb ,i thought mine was cheap in good condition for £34 though drive is not reading disc my spare drive that was working also does not read maybe its a machine fault ,i have not looked into it ,i need a gotek.
That's still a great deal you got!
any ideas where i can get a replacement upper case for the atari st please..?..i bought one off ebay and it arrived damaged so need a replacement...thanks.
Sorry. No idea
First time here. You're freakin hilarious. Thanks for the great video. ☮
(edit: pretty sure you've voided the warranty!)
Thank you for the lovely comment! Welcome to the channel 😁
Nice machine! This was my first ST in 1987. The 520 + 360K disk drive. Excellent machine for all kids of tasks, but the games were my favorite part. This machine would be a few $100 in the USA right now. Those hard drive versions usually need 1MB at least because the hard drive driver takes up too much memory, With GoteK SD floppy replacement you cab play 95% of the originally released games.
Good to know! Thanks for the info. Having the memory upgraded makes it an easier decision. I'll still have a gotek option though
Just found your channel today and I had to subscribe. You have a very entertaining delivery style.
Thank you Chris! That's very kind of you to take the time to comment ☺️
Snake book's charlatan place?
Can you translate this to English, please? 😂
It's that social media platform run by a lizard man...
I remember cannon fodder on the amiga. Used to play it at my friends house was brilliant.
Amazing game for the time. So much character.
Enjoy being envious of your Amiga owning friends all over again in 2023
I sit very firmly in both camps. And am jealous of everyone as a matter of course. 😉
Fantastic stuff mate!
Cheers Snorkers! 😍