The way he looks at Q when she's says they are stuck in the Delta Quadrant, he immediately suspects Q is responsible as he did the exact same thing to Enterprise (he just brought them back)
That's because he was always in the area; he's one of the best TV directors of his generation [he directed three Voyager episodes, though not this one].
People who say Riker’s tone is flirting- Riker is interacting with someone who is believed to be dead, on a ship that is first of its kind. He’s incredulous.
@@Ironfangzu no, as much of a ladies man as riker is, he still understands rank structure. Especially the fact he called her captain. It was more the fact of realizing a starship believed to be destroyed was still out there. His tone was more a sense of relief that voyagers crew was alive.
I'd like to point out that CONTRARY to what some people think Riker WASN'T "flirting" with Janeway, he was simply being polite and respectful to a Senior Officer who outranked him. Now in all fairness, with Riker being Riker, there's a 99.975% probability that Riker WOULD have started flirting with Janeway in merely a couple more minutes. That point out of the way, I absolutely LOVE how after Janeway tells Riker that Voyager is in the Delta Quadrant Riker IMMEDIATELY glares at Q, essentially automatically blaming Q for that. And I can honestly imagine Q's response to Riker's glare: "Oh SURE. Just go ahead and blame little old moi for this. Even though I had NOTHING to do with Voyager being stuck in the Delta Quadrant, I'll get blamed ANYWAY. *long-suffering sigh* Such is my lot in life I suppose. Oh Heavy is the burden of being Immortal and Omnipotent, and being the 'scapegoat' of the Universe for everything bad that happens". Hahaha. Just my own personal opinion anyway.
Computer, locate commander Riker. Commander Riker is not onboard. What’s the last known location of commander Riker? Commander Riker was in his quarters. Mr Worf, take a security team to commander Riker’s quarters, find him.
Just imagine if he was in plain view of everyone, n everyone just noticed him kind of glitch, like he just appeared to disappear for a 100th of a second, n they had to go to sickbay, convinced there was something wrong with their eyes. Meanwhile Woopi (screw trying to spell her name 😂) is just like".... God damnit Q, what did you do? "
One thing I really like about this scene is how Riker is initially annoyed and slightly confused to be there but then he gets on board with the process and pitches in standing with Janeway and assisting with the delegation to the others pulled out of time as a professional. I mean weird shit happens to these people on a weekly basis so weird has to be the norm for them right? lol
Well with Riker, the fact that he has dealt with Q on numerous occasions, goes to show that he tolerates Q despite being annoyed at having been transported from possibly the bridge of the Enterprise D to Voyager.
I remember this episode came out around the time they were shooting First Contact. It would have been a great teaser at the end for Riker to snap back home and there was a schematic of the Enterprise-E on a screen in the background
@@didomenico-art Yeah that's my theory as well. In my head cannon the Riker that was brought to Voyager was brought forward in time from around late season 7 of TNG. This would explain why Riker knows who captain Janeway is. In fact if Riker was on the short list for the command of Voyager he certainly would have learned who was assigned to Voyager as its captain, that's how he would recognize Janeway.
Riker has the greatest "what the hell?" of any Star Trek actor/character, except perhaps when Kirk asks Bones "what the hell are you doing?" in Star Trek III
two months later, on earth: „who was this mysterious captain. Was she really the dead janeway from voyager? Was it possible those believed to be dead instead found themselves spirited away to the far corner of the universe? Or is this just another of Qs tall tales? Is this story just…beyond belief? I am Jonathan Frakes.“
@@jamieolberding7731 the Riker has to be from at least 2371 because he knows about Voyager. Generations and Voyager launched in in 2371. this episode is voyagers second season, so 2372. First Contact happened in in 2373, at which point star fleet went to the grey uniform. so yes it is very likely this Riker is from Voyagers present, rather then 1 year in the past... The com-badge has to be an error... unless Riker is in fact from one year in the past before Generations, which does seem silly. also that is assuming DS9 and the Enterprise had different combadges about a year. however him knowing about Voyager would still affect the timeline, the Federation did not learn about Voyagers fate till late in season 4, so around 2374-2375... 1 to 2 years after that uniform was completely out of use.
I thought about that however Q knows it is imperative that janeway must go on as how it should be. If riker was to go back to tell starfleet it could have changed things drastically, if we ever get a post nemesis show (fingers crossed for Picard series) the federation will be changed in ways we yet have seen “but know about” destruction of Romulus, and if STO holds any weight the federation is changing in huge ways.
Still had to be wiped, not to protect the present, but to protect the future, at least from Voyager's point of view. From the perspective of a being who can travel freely through time, forward or backward, such as Q, the entirety of the universe's history has already been written. It's all "past" to him.
He's been everywhere except the Original Series (he was a kid) and Discovery (but he's directed episodes). And I could totally see him popping up in the latter. He could be the John Ratzenberger of Star Trek.
@@Mumblix To paraphrase Robin Williams: So (says the Romulan) why do you think Romulans have no history of stand up comics? Riker: Did it ever occur to you to stop killing all of the funny people?
@@mikesmith-pj7xz :::laughs, sighs::: Man I miss him. The shit he would have said about the last few years would have killed people with laughter-but more happily.
Reminds me of Picard's filming with Janeway in the fourth Next Generation movie, which takes place after Voyager has finally returned to Earth. Afterwards, Picard gets to film with another Voyager character, Seven of Nine. One former Borg Drone to another.
@@jeremydale4548 My theory on Riker is that this version of Riker is from TNG's 7th season. If you look at his communicator badge it's the old style used on TNG and the first 2 seasons of DS9. The combadge was redesigned for Generations and was used for the entirety of Voyager as well as DS9 seasons 3-7. The reason why I suspect that Riker was pulled forward in time from season 7 of TNG is because he knows who Janeway is & he knows about Voyager. In my head cannon Riker was on the short list for becoming the captain of Voyager and he found out that Janeway was given command of Voyager.
@@supersaiyaman11589 I think that this version of Riker is from TNG season 7. He's using the old style of combadge, the combadge was redesigned for Generations and the new design was used for Voyager and DS9 seasons 3-7. I think that Riker knew about Janeway getting command of Voyager because he was probably on the short list for getting command of Voyager.
It was nice to see TNG Voyagers appearing on VOY as their crossovers were always handled well: Riker, Troi, La Forge, Barclay. Pity we couldn't see more of it. Imagine how different the show might have been if Riker was serving aboard Voyager for example, or in S7, Voyager actually rendezvoused with Starfleet ships sent to guide it back.
Voyager is set in the same timeline as TNG and DS9 hence why Riker is wearing the pre-TNG movies uniform and comm-badge until they manage to contact earth and send the EMH Mark 1 (The doctor) to earth where he meets Troi and Barclay whom are wearing the post-TNG/Generations movie uniform (so First Contact to Nemesis). Also, it's rumored that Voyager got home after the events of First Contact as a lot of people thought that the Galaxy Class starships were retired, which they were not as we all saw one Galaxy Class starship escort Voyager back to Earth from the Borg wormhole. It was just the USS enterprise D that was retired due to being destroyed and replaced with the newer powerful Enterprise E Soverign Class Starship.
@@GenGamesUniverse the galaxy class had a lifespan of 100 years, similar to the Excelsior class before them. Only ones recorded destroyed were the enterprise, yamato and odyssey. Look at the ds9 finally when there was a full galaxy wing and in nemesis, the battle group the enterprise e was supposed to.meet with contained the USS galaxy
It's no wonder that Riker initially looks at Q suspiciously when Janeway tells him they're stranded in the Delta Quadrant. "If it quacks like a duck...", or if it looks like a Q situation and Q is still hanging around there, the assumption really makes sense. 😁😁😂
They were in the Delta quadrant in "Q Who" TNG episode. When Q smacked them back to the Alpha, they were lojacked by the Borg and they followed them thereafter.
The moment you realize Janway could have saved her entire crew early by demanding Q send the ship home after having his baby. She would die for her crew but she wouldn't have a child for them?
@@brooklynsmith2721 Yes 7 years inside the probably most hostile environment startrek crews could think of. Countless anomalies that create copies of you that slowly die miserably later on, etc. Bloody hell. But yes 7 years in hell is such a short time.
@Infinity Stones hurr durr so edgy durrrrrrr Kurtzmanbot alert. How old were you when VOY premiered? If you were even born yet. Go back to your STD. Kurtzmanbots are not welcome.
That's not how she looks at it. A potential Q-human hybrid baby would be to her the equivalent of an Omega Particle. In other words, she would be trading a free ride home for a universal threat to everyone.
Something I don't understand about this scene... Q mentioning that their memories would be wiped to protect the time line and Riker wearing an older uniform both suggest that Riker is from the past when he would still be serving on board the Enterprise D. However the fact that Riker knows about Voyager and Janeway specifically says she wishes he could tell people where they were when he got home both suggest that this is a present day Riker from the Enterprise E. If Riker is from the same time period as Janeway then it wouldn't effect the time line for him to remember being there when he got home and he should be wearing the newer uniforms that we see the Enterprise crew wearing in the movies. If Riker is indeed from the past then he shouldn't know Katherine Janeway as the Captain of the Voyager since she wouldn't be a Captain in his time and the Voyager wouldn't even exist yet. There's actually an episode of the Next Generation where an extra was referred to as Ensign Janeway which I believe to be either a younger version of the same character or possibly a family member. Either way it's plausible that Riker is aware of Janeway even on board the Enterprise D but I don't believe she was a Captain until the beginning of Voyager which takes place around the same time as the Next Gen movies do. Voyager actually seemingly starting the same time as Generations as another version of the EMH also appears on board the Enterprise D and Voyager never switched over to the new uniforms that became standard on the Enterprise E and DS9 cause she was lost in the delta quadrant and didn't know about the new uniforms. It's possible Q put Riker in an older uniform that Janeway would recognize rather than introducing her crew to the new style uniforms... but then why not just put him in the same style uniform Janeway's crew is wearing rather than an even older style uniform? I mean the DS9 crew also wore the Voyager style uniforms for a time before switching over to the movie style uniforms. Of course trying to track the time line by the uniforms was pretty much impossible for the Next Generation because extras were constantly wandering around in uniforms from different seasons anyway, even in Generations. It's not till they started standardizing that turtle neck style that the uniforms were actually consistent with a specific time period. Original series not included... Next Generation (movies included), DS9, and Voyager all happen close enough to have some over lap of certain events happening at the same time between the different shows. The original series (movies included) however is far enough in the past that there's not really any over lap of events. Even in Generations which seems like an over lap of events only happens because of a nexus anomaly where time has no meaning. So there's not really any over lap between The original series where events are happening concurrently with events in another series.
@@drockjr That's my theory. This Riker is from season 7 of TNG. With this Riker being from season 7 that would: explain the old uniforms, the old combadge, his knowledge of Voyager & his knowledge of Captain Janeway. If Riker was on the shortlist for command of Voyager then he certainly would have learned that Janeway got assigned as Voyager's Captain.
Or, and this is a controversial take: they just didn’t think about nuance or time periods and just gave him “his” uniform to wear for a short scene. If it helps any, if I had to theorise beyond the costume designers not thinking, I would say this is Riker from the last season of TNG - Voyager was probably well under construction by that time if not nearly finished - Riker would likely know who got to captain it.
its looks like it, i often wondered if voyager was newer than the enterprise E, but going from riker, looks like voyager was older, and the Enterprise D may have still been in service.
I just noticed a little flaw in this scene. First of all, this episode takes place during season 2 of Voyager, so it's sometime during 2372. Now in the last few seconds of this video, I noticed that Riker was wearing the old com badge with the gold ellipse attached to the arrow, as seen during the TNG series, whereas the badges with the gold trapezoid (currently being worn by the Voyager crew) were not issued to the Enterprise officers until sometime after the TNG finale "All Good Things" and before the movie "Generations". Riker is also wearing the TNG uniform issued after season 3, which means that Q had to have plucked him out of his time from anywhere between 2366 and 2371 and Voyager was launched shortly after the destruction of the Enterprise D in 2371. So he had to have been plucked out of time at least a year before Voyager was even launched. So the question is even if he knew Janeway, how does he know about Voyager?
Assuming you are correct there is this. Voyager was being built at the time. Riker could have known about the ship. As seen in TNG, most officers of rank know the others or have heard of at least some of them. No doubt possible names for the captain of this new Intrepid ship would be floating around. Riker might have been among them and he might have read about Janeway.
@@welme23 True. But nevertheless, given the facts I stated about his uniform and com badge, he had to sense he had been plucked out of his own time; because again, Voyager was launched shortly after the events of "Generations" and Riker's com badge was the standard issue before the events of that movie.
He likely knew who she was being assigned to Voyager. Also look how confused he looked that Voyager was lost and was on it. Almost like he didn't have knowledge of it's disappearance or he could be on the ship.
Dunno, offically the uniform change for the USS enterprise happened sometime in 2371, so its entirely possible he does know. See the movie Star Trek: Generations.
@Tejesh Patel That is correct, Kathryn Janeway was promoted and named to Captain of the USS Voyager as in one episode where Seven Of Nine goes back to when Voyager never was taken to the Delta Quadrant and is in Spacedock getting the final bits and pieces put onto her, Kathryn beams aboard and gets shown around by the admiral.
@@Meerkat040 That is also correct, Generations is the final film to show the pre-TNG uniform and the TNG/DS9 uniform as well as DS9 had the uniform change before the Enterprise-D crew did.
@@Meerkat040 If this Riker was pulled forward in time from around the time of All Good Things and if Riker was on the short list for being given command of Voyager he would have known about Voyager and he would have found out that Janeway became the captain.
What always bugged me about this was that Riker apparently is aware of who Janeway is and that she's the captain of Voyager, but his uniform indicates that he's from several years before Voyager was even launched. I suppose he could've been plucked from the very thin time in which both were being used -- Generations apparently takes place in 2371, which is the same year Voyager is lost -- but it makes more sense to pull a contemporary Riker, who would've been wearing the same uniforms as Voyager's crew, or even the newer black-and-gray uniforms of late-era DS9 or the last few TNG films.
If you look at the com badge on Riker you'll notice it was the style that was worn during the series of TNG & the first 2 seasons of DS9. The com badge was changed for Star Trek Generations & for the rest of DS9 & all of Voyager. My theory is that Riker was brought forward in time from around late season 7 of TNG. If Riker was on the short list for command of Voyager he would have been informed that Janeway was given command of Voyager instead of him, this is how he could have recognized her.
But Q exists outside the spacetime continuum, and presumably knows how things are generally meant to play out... though he clearly doesn't foresee *everything*... oh dear I've gone crosseyed.
Why is Riker in a TNG uniform? If he recognizes Janeway, even if just by name, he should at least be in the same early DS9 / Voyager uniform she's in, if not the grey shouldered First Contact / Late DS9 uniform.
Not necessarily - Q can grab him from any time he wants so this doesn't have to be Riker from that exact moment, it could be Riker from 10 minutes earlier, a year earlier, etc, just like the other 2. Q just happened to grab one pre-Generations. Remember technically Generations took place a few months after Caretaker even though Generations was released first so Riker could easily know she is going to command Voyager even though he isn't wearing the new comm badge and DS9 uniform. I think at some point Q even says he thought Riker was going to get command so it makes sense he knows of it. As for the uniform, the TNG style were still in use even on DS9 for years after Generations - Tom Riker wore it in Defiant which is after Caretaker but before Generations - so him being in that uniform isn't unusual. It is unusual that Q didn't grab Riker from that current time, but it is still correct.
Q should have kept rikers memory. If nothing else, for Canon. It would be a good ending (or plot point down the line) that riker was able to at least tell starfleet of voyager. Just because he is in a different uniform doesn't mean riker is from another time
Riker is wearing the older TNG style uniform and combadge, how could he possibly know that Janeway is the Captain of Voyager, a ship that for him hasn't been built yet?
"Your memories will get wiped before we send you back" Riker: Oh..I see *proceed to discreetly scribble down something on a piece of paper and put it in his pocket* That would have been a different ending altogether.
Cool having Riker in this episode. Still, it makes no sense. Like it's stated later, Riker never met Quinn before this episode. It was Riker's ancestor, Thaddeus Riker, who met Quinn in 1864. Riker are just shown a picture of him by Q and tells the story he has heard. Why wouldn't Q bring Thaddeus Riker himself to Voyager? Probably because they just had to bring a familiar face...
Atle Kristiansen I mean, tbh they could’ve even had Jonathan Frakes play Thaddeus Riker if all they wanted was a small cameo, or instead have depressed Q be the one who originally gave Cmdr Riker the big push to join the academy and become a Starfleet Officer 🤷♂️
How crashing this must of been here stands William T Riker. First officer of the USS Enterprise someone who could get a message back to star fleet about where they are and about the impending threat of the Borg but your forced to keep quiet about it all, all I can say is if I was in janeway’s place I couldn’t do it,
I wonder if Janeway ever sent Riker a message once Voyager established communication with Starfleet and told him what happened and how much his short time on Voyager meant to her after being stuck in the Delta Quadrant for a year.
Not necessarily. In the film Star Trek: Generations (stardate 48632.4) the Enterprise crew were still mixing their classic-TNG and DS9-style uniforms (though they _were_ using the VOY-era comm badges at that point). We know the DS9 crew were wearing the VOY comm badge as of 48212.4 (S2E1 "The Search, Part I") canonically prior to VOY's "Caretaker" pilot episode (stardate 48307.5). In the VOY episode "Relativity", we're taken back to the time of Janeway's tour of Voyager before its launch (c. stardate 48038.5) yet interestingly, the comm badges even then were all VOY era. The latest canonically certain stardate we can assign use of the TNG badges is in the TNG finale, "All Good Things" (stardate 47988). However -- and here's the kicker -- DS9 _also_ used the TNG badges for a time, including through its entire second season; and although we're given a stardate to the penultimate episode of that season, "The Tribunal" (47944.2), we are _not_ given the stardate for its season finale "The Jem'Hadar", which could (and would've) theoretically been the window of overlap when Starfleet assigned Voyager to Janeway, thus giving some breathing room for explaining how the Starfleet comm badge of the TNG era could still be in use after the introduction of the VOY era badges. After all, if the uniforms could still be in flux aboard the Enterprise by the time of Generations (after the crews of new ships at that period, like Voyager, had otherwise standardized their uniforms on a ship-wide scale), it wouldn't be unreasonable to imagine the comm badge switch occurring in a similarly haphazardly manner, albeit off camera.
An odd thing happens right after this clip. Riker identifies an ancestor from the American Civil War. How many people know about individual ancestors from five hundred years ago?
@@harryfox3139 | "From what I heard Patrick Stewart didn't want to do this episode." Or he was (at that time) becoming a bigger cinema star thanks to the X-Men films and simply did not want to do any TV work.
How does Riker know about Janeway and Voyager. My guess is she was assigned while the ship was still under construction. I'm more interested in what events the other Q did to Riker.
Why wouldn't the First Officer of the flagship of Starfleet not know about an Intrepid class starship suddenly going missing? That would be a fleet-wide announcement.
If I had a chance I would have secretly slipped Riker a note or some form of Data Chip that held a message and recording made by Janeway to Starfleet telling them of Voyager’s fate and where they are.
Construction on Voyager must have started sometime during TNG's last few seasons and DS9's first two seasons where they were still wearing the old comm badges. Janeway may have already been appointed captain of Voyager and the Enterprise-D crew may have heard about this. So Q may have taken Riker from that point in time.
From what I’ve read it’s more an error on costuming’s part, since Voyager left after the end of TNG but before Generations, and by the time of this episode the new grey uniforms were in use I believe, so, this Riker is likely from around a year and a half in the past from Janeway’s perspective, it’s either that or this Riker simply used his old combadge occasionally, or the time when he was taken the new badges hadn’t yet arrived on the Enterprise; all of these are possible since I believe in Generations and in DS9 you see the older badges on unnamed crewmen in some scenes after the new ones rolled out
Simple. Once they got their new uniforms, Riker took to wearing his old one in his off time. It just felt nostalgic as he sat around his quarters in the old red and black jumpsuit. There, problem solved. :p
@Burns me up. He was confirmed to appear in the show; one of the trailers for the new series shows Picard meeting him and Deanna, and Riker apparently has a daughter now as well.
Of course technically Riker had been on the USS Voyager before this moment. Jonathan Frakes directed three of the early episodes; Projections, Prototype and Parturition
Riker has wrong combadge on. USS Voyager launched in 2071 after the combadge was updated. So Q must have took Riker from a time just prior to Voyager launching and/or Katheryn Janeway due to take command. Of which he was aware. Since Voyager was a prestigious posting.
Bad error from the writers. RIKER SHOULDN'T KNOW WHO CAPTAIN JANEWAY IS; I'll explain: Look at riker's uniform badge. It wasn't anymore in use when Janeway became captain, hell Voyager wasn't even built yet. The riker in this segment Is late TNG, there was no Voyager yet and no Janeway captain (since her First command was in fact VOY); yet riker recognises her.
ACTUALLY.... it's quite possible for him to have the ellipse com badge here AND recognize Janeway as captain of the USS Voyager -- it was launched on stardate 48038.5 and TNG's finale took place on stardate 47988, which is, what, a few weeks before the ship launched? You mean to tell me that Commander Riker wouldn't have been aware of this next-gen class of starship getting its first few captains? When he'd been questioning himself on why he hadn't moved on to command a ship of his own after all this time under Picard? Come on.. 😆
Possible Continuity error... Riker is wearing the pre Generations Starfleet combadge (round) vs. the rest of the crew, who are wearing the Generations combadge (slotted bar).
He could of been taken out of time and space by Q. My guess is he comes from a time some months before Voyager is lost in the Delta Quadrant. Pre combadge change in 2371. But whilst Voyager is in final construction and has had its Commanding officer assigned. Another reason is Starfleet multiple times offered Riker his own command and didn't take it up until 2380. So stands to reason he would know about prestigious new ships in construction.
If Riker was impacted by Quinn why isn’t Thomas Riker also present as well as William Riker? Riker may find out about it whenever Voyager gets its logs transmitted back to ufp.
@@oddish4352 I meant Harry was accepted not treated as inferior like Thomas Riker. Will Riker was immediately promoted after that mission to Lt Cmdr. Thomas in DS9 was still a Lt.
"We are lost in the delta quadrant"
Immediately looks over at Q
Well Q was responsible for sending the enterprise into the middle of Borg heartland.
That's good acting. We know what Riker is thinking, and yet the subtext is subtle enough to miss if you're not familiar with TNG.
@@dragonsmith9462 Riker was 3 inches from having powder wig hold his beer 🍻 🤜🤛
@@RobeonMew but it was Sisko who got to get a swing at Q. ;)
@@BastetFurry Only because Picard was always nearby and you don't punch an omnipotent being when your commanding officer is present :)
The way he looks at Q when she's says they are stuck in the Delta Quadrant, he immediately suspects Q is responsible as he did the exact same thing to Enterprise (he just brought them back)
@@DancingRasputin generations had the mix uniforms
Q didn't send the Enterprise to the Delta Quadrant. System J-25 was in the Alpha or Beta Quadrant probably near the border of the Delta Quadrant.
Imagine if Q summoned Picard or Worf instead....
I love when Janeway told riker they were lost in alpha Quadrant and the first thing he did was looked at Q like it's his fault.😂😂
you are mistaken she said delta quadrant
negative, they are a meat popsicle
Like Marge with Bart. Force of habit 😅
Given Riker's experience with Q, can you blame him?
@@odius94 Welcome to florstin paradice!
Riker shows up everywhere in Star Trek after TNG ended lol.
Spiner too
Not surprising. He hoped for a Titan series after TNG Generations but apparently no one would pick it up. A shame.
@@ericbrenner690 Titan?
@@Malumbrus Riker's awarded ship at the end of Nemesis.
That's because he was always in the area; he's one of the best TV directors of his generation [he directed three Voyager episodes, though not this one].
Riker should have looked at Q and said "I don't need your fantasy women" take me back to the Enterprise. Jean Luc was reading me a bedtime story.
I bet it was a good bedtime story too lol.
I totally read that in Riker’s voice lol
@@jema021 haha thats because he has said he doesn't need his fantasy women before to q hahaha
@@hmm2598 Shakespeare no doubt.
If Picard was in the holideck than I’m sure it be some Shakespeare or some 1930-1940s crime noir stories
Everyone else looking around all confused when Q teleports them, meanwhile Riker just looks straight at him and goes "what the hell"
probably thinking here we go again with another "fun" adventure with Q
The first thing Riker does is start flirting with Janeway
Hahahaha totally
@The Steampunk Gamer Nice one
We don't call him Re-Kirk for nothing.
Since when was saying her name, rank and shaking her hand considered flirting?
@@zairman you must not know Riker
I like how Riker glares at Q when Janeway says we are lost in the Delta Quadrant he assumes it's Q's fault after what happened with System J-25.
yeah he knows Q too well.
Can you blame Riker?
@@danielhaire6677 Not in the least.
I'd be thinking the same thing.
@@davecrupel2817 Especially as when the Enterprise-D wound up in the Deota Quadrant and first met the Borg, it actually was Q's fault!!
I expected something from Riker like "Q! I haven't got time for this!"
"Q, for the last time, I don't need your fantasy women!"
No, "what the hell is going on" is definitely his character's reaction. That's all he ever says.
@@EvanG529 yeah. "I haven't got time for this!" Is something Picard would say not Riker
To be fair, Q can send him back to the second he left.
@@MrLeSa95 "I am literally too old for your bullshit!"
People who say Riker’s tone is flirting- Riker is interacting with someone who is believed to be dead, on a ship that is first of its kind.
He’s incredulous.
Nope. When he said "Captain Janeway!" he was oozing with that famous Riker charm. That was not incredulity. That was flirting.
Second of its kind*** voyager was the second intrepid class ship.
@@Ironfangzu no, as much of a ladies man as riker is, he still understands rank structure. Especially the fact he called her captain.
It was more the fact of realizing a starship believed to be destroyed was still out there. His tone was more a sense of relief that voyagers crew was alive.
Respect for a Captain too.
What sane straight man would flirt with Janeway? She's below average at best.
Ever get sucked into a clip and suddenly find yourself at the end expecting it to continue?
I have never experienced th
@@wallacewallaby5782 Lo
Felt like that after this clip, lol
Time warp of sub-space.
Paramount plus has free 30 day trial..have at it...
I'd like to point out that CONTRARY to what some people think Riker WASN'T "flirting" with Janeway, he was simply being polite and respectful to a Senior Officer who outranked him. Now in all fairness, with Riker being Riker, there's a 99.975% probability that Riker WOULD have started flirting with Janeway in merely a couple more minutes.
That point out of the way, I absolutely LOVE how after Janeway tells Riker that Voyager is in the Delta Quadrant Riker IMMEDIATELY glares at Q, essentially automatically blaming Q for that.
And I can honestly imagine Q's response to Riker's glare: "Oh SURE. Just go ahead and blame little old moi for this. Even though I had NOTHING to do with Voyager being stuck in the Delta Quadrant, I'll get blamed ANYWAY. *long-suffering sigh* Such is my lot in life I suppose. Oh Heavy is the burden of being Immortal and Omnipotent, and being the 'scapegoat' of the Universe for everything bad that happens". Hahaha.
Just my own personal opinion anyway.
LOL, that was funny, i could actually almost hear John de Lancie saying it as i read it haha.
Well written, I can just imagine Q saying that.
Well, consider that in Riker's experience that when the Enterprise-D wound up in the Delta Quadrant to first meet the Borg, it actually was Q's fault.
perfectly read that in Q's voice
He giving her the "smash or pass" lookdown. 😂
Janeway:Your memories will be erased: Picard. "Number One, where have you been? You've been gone a while. Care to explain? " Riker : Errr
Argus Panoptes, they had to be sent back to the same instant they were taken in order to not affect the timeline.
I'm pretty sure if any member of the enterprise crew disappeared into thin air, picard would instantly assume it was Q
Meanwhile on the enterprise:
Number one, please head to my study room...
.... Number one?
Computer, locate commander Riker.
Commander Riker is not onboard.
What’s the last known location of commander Riker?
Commander Riker was in his quarters.
Mr Worf, take a security team to commander Riker’s quarters, find him.
@Lone Wolf You poor android, did someone pull out your humor chip again?
@Lone Wolf Is that right, mister Poopypants?
@Lone Wolf Yes.
At least.
Just imagine if he was in plain view of everyone, n everyone just noticed him kind of glitch, like he just appeared to disappear for a 100th of a second, n they had to go to sickbay, convinced there was something wrong with their eyes.
Meanwhile Woopi (screw trying to spell her name 😂) is just like".... God damnit Q, what did you do? "
One thing I really like about this scene is how Riker is initially annoyed and slightly confused to be there but then he gets on board with the process and pitches in standing with Janeway and assisting with the delegation to the others pulled out of time as a professional. I mean weird shit happens to these people on a weekly basis so weird has to be the norm for them right? lol
Well with Riker, the fact that he has dealt with Q on numerous occasions, goes to show that he tolerates Q despite being annoyed at having been transported from possibly the bridge of the Enterprise D to Voyager.
@@GenGamesUniverse Knowing Q he picked the worst possible moment to pull Riker out of.
I remember this episode came out around the time they were shooting First Contact. It would have been a great teaser at the end for Riker to snap back home and there was a schematic of the Enterprise-E on a screen in the background
Wouldn't have worked, wrong uniform.....
I guess this Riker came from an earlier timeline - not only an TNG uniform but also the old communicator which was changed in design with DS9
@@didomenico-art Yeah that's my theory as well. In my head cannon the Riker that was brought to Voyager was brought forward in time from around late season 7 of TNG. This would explain why Riker knows who captain Janeway is. In fact if Riker was on the short list for the command of Voyager he certainly would have learned who was assigned to Voyager as its captain, that's how he would recognize Janeway.
Riker has the greatest "what the hell?" of any Star Trek actor/character, except perhaps when Kirk asks Bones "what the hell are you doing?" in Star Trek III
“Dammit, Q, what are you doing now?!? *sees Janeway* Why, hello there.”
Commander Riker. You are a bold one.
two months later, on earth:
„who was this mysterious captain. Was she really the dead janeway from voyager? Was it possible those believed to be dead instead found themselves spirited away to the far corner of the universe? Or is this just another of Qs tall tales? Is this story just…beyond belief? I am Jonathan Frakes.“
I'd like to imagine Riker does this occasionally to the chagrin of his crewmates
Q transporting Riker to Voyager would not have affected the timeline from their perspective so it's a shame his memory had to be wiped!
Yeah meeting someone from the 2360s can impact the timeline if you lived in the 2370s
@@Joe13313 I think Q only meat the other two people not Riker. Riker still remembers Q.
@@jamieolberding7731 the Riker has to be from at least 2371 because he knows about Voyager. Generations and Voyager launched in in 2371. this episode is voyagers second season, so 2372. First Contact happened in in 2373, at which point star fleet went to the grey uniform. so yes it is very likely this Riker is from Voyagers present, rather then 1 year in the past... The com-badge has to be an error... unless Riker is in fact from one year in the past before Generations, which does seem silly. also that is assuming DS9 and the Enterprise had different combadges about a year.
however him knowing about Voyager would still affect the timeline, the Federation did not learn about Voyagers fate till late in season 4, so around 2374-2375... 1 to 2 years after that uniform was completely out of use.
I thought about that however Q knows it is imperative that janeway must go on as how it should be. If riker was to go back to tell starfleet it could have changed things drastically, if we ever get a post nemesis show (fingers crossed for Picard series) the federation will be changed in ways we yet have seen “but know about” destruction of Romulus, and if STO holds any weight the federation is changing in huge ways.
Still had to be wiped, not to protect the present, but to protect the future, at least from Voyager's point of view. From the perspective of a being who can travel freely through time, forward or backward, such as Q, the entirety of the universe's history has already been written. It's all "past" to him.
I always love how Tuvok says “I’m as curious as you are captain”
Then bring people from 60KS from earth then id think "this is most unusual"
Jonathan Frakes did a wonderful job bringing a commander William T Riker the life in Star Trek next Generation
Indeed!
He's been everywhere except the Original Series (he was a kid) and Discovery (but he's directed episodes). And I could totally see him popping up in the latter. He could be the John Ratzenberger of Star Trek.
@@oddish4352 Well he did pop up in star trek picard, but not sure if he will pop again in season 2.
@@procta2343 But he could easily be the one who turns up in every series.
@@oddish4352 yeah that's true, i wont be surprised if he pops up again, for the odd one off.
It was great to see different characters of The Next Generation on Voyager : Riker, Q, Lt Barclay, Troï, Geordie LaForge ♥️👍👍
Can you tell me what is the episode with Geordie LaForge?
@@topocane67 Its called Timeless, Season 5 Episode 6
Could you please tell me which Voyager episode this clip is from?
@@topocane67 ua-cam.com/video/-tQBxxfLvz0/v-deo.html
I think the writing for the Troi character was better for the Voyager episodes she was in than for most of her episodes in TNG.
Always thought a better way to play this scene would have been for Riker to be in the middle of a joke: "And the Klingon says to the Ferengi..."
"What and give up show business?"
@@Mumblix To paraphrase Robin Williams:
So (says the Romulan) why do you think Romulans have no history of stand up comics?
Riker: Did it ever occur to you to stop killing all of the funny people?
@@mikesmith-pj7xz :::laughs, sighs::: Man I miss him. The shit he would have said about the last few years would have killed people with laughter-but more happily.
Or have him teleported in as he’s about to sit down
Reminds me of Picard's filming with Janeway in the fourth Next Generation movie, which takes place after Voyager has finally returned to Earth. Afterwards, Picard gets to film with another Voyager character, Seven of Nine. One former Borg Drone to another.
Must have been extremely frustrating to have another starfleet officer teleported into the room with you knowing he can't help you
She really shoulda demanded that Q keep Riker’s memories in tact.
@@jeremydale4548 i really don't see why she didn't ask for rikers memories to remain in tact so he could have told star fleet they were still alive.
@@jeremydale4548 My theory on Riker is that this version of Riker is from TNG's 7th season. If you look at his communicator badge it's the old style used on TNG and the first 2 seasons of DS9. The combadge was redesigned for Generations and was used for the entirety of Voyager as well as DS9 seasons 3-7. The reason why I suspect that Riker was pulled forward in time from season 7 of TNG is because he knows who Janeway is & he knows about Voyager. In my head cannon Riker was on the short list for becoming the captain of Voyager and he found out that Janeway was given command of Voyager.
@@supersaiyaman11589 I think that this version of Riker is from TNG season 7. He's using the old style of combadge, the combadge was redesigned for Generations and the new design was used for Voyager and DS9 seasons 3-7. I think that Riker knew about Janeway getting command of Voyager because he was probably on the short list for getting command of Voyager.
I love how the first thing Riker does when Janeway tells him they're in the Delta Quadrant is to look outside.
I actually think he was looking at Q because he assumed it's Q's fault Voyager is in the Delta Quadrant
It was nice to see TNG Voyagers appearing on VOY as their crossovers were always handled well: Riker, Troi, La Forge, Barclay. Pity we couldn't see more of it. Imagine how different the show might have been if Riker was serving aboard Voyager for example, or in S7, Voyager actually rendezvoused with Starfleet ships sent to guide it back.
Fun fact: Frakes guest-starred on DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise.
And Picard and Lower Decks 😂 The man is everywhere!
@@MrEdfed we don't talk about the meat puppet with Stat Trek written on it
Going by Rikers com badge he was from before Voyager launched
Voyager is set in the same timeline as TNG and DS9 hence why Riker is wearing the pre-TNG movies uniform and comm-badge until they manage to contact earth and send the EMH Mark 1 (The doctor) to earth where he meets Troi and Barclay whom are wearing the post-TNG/Generations movie uniform (so First Contact to Nemesis).
Also, it's rumored that Voyager got home after the events of First Contact as a lot of people thought that the Galaxy Class starships were retired, which they were not as we all saw one Galaxy Class starship escort Voyager back to Earth from the Borg wormhole. It was just the USS enterprise D that was retired due to being destroyed and replaced with the newer powerful Enterprise E Soverign Class Starship.
@@GenGamesUniverse the galaxy class had a lifespan of 100 years, similar to the Excelsior class before them. Only ones recorded destroyed were the enterprise, yamato and odyssey. Look at the ds9 finally when there was a full galaxy wing and in nemesis, the battle group the enterprise e was supposed to.meet with contained the USS galaxy
In the book “Mosaic”, it’s mentioned the Janeway and Riker dated very briefly.
Riker being Riker as usual.
Frakes being Frakes as usual unfit to play
nope, he didn't sit like Riker ;)
@@Promilus1984 the riker maneuver lol
To bad he didn't stick around for the whole episode. Would've been cool to see him interact with the crew
It's no wonder that Riker initially looks at Q suspiciously when Janeway tells him they're stranded in the Delta Quadrant. "If it quacks like a duck...", or if it looks like a Q situation and Q is still hanging around there, the assumption really makes sense. 😁😁😂
“I am as Qrious as you are”
🧿🌹🖖🏻🌟🧩
My favorite scene ever thank you so much for this
yea it's actually one o.........
ua-cam.com/video/paOaLSa9rGw/v-deo.html
So Q had all the infinity stones...
rappy90
I think so
Or Thanos had all the Qs.
In terms of ability q has all the infinity stones, the dragon balls, and just about any other power object you can think of.
in Q squeard the q had part of god powers,
Q is more like Mister Mxyztplk
Why couldn't you upload the whole segment?
Because of copyright malarkey.
Nah riker just got shy
Because FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!! D:
too broke to get Netflix. the entire series of ST Voyager is there. even the TNG.
They were in the Delta quadrant in "Q Who" TNG episode. When Q smacked them back to the Alpha, they were lojacked by the Borg and they followed them thereafter.
The moment you realize Janway could have saved her entire crew early by demanding Q send the ship home after having his baby. She would die for her crew but she wouldn't have a child for them?
LOL
I agree but 7 years is not that long. She wasn’t completely incompetent.
@@brooklynsmith2721 Yes 7 years inside the probably most hostile environment startrek crews could think of. Countless anomalies that create copies of you that slowly die miserably later on, etc. Bloody hell.
But yes 7 years in hell is such a short time.
@Infinity Stones hurr durr so edgy durrrrrrr
Kurtzmanbot alert. How old were you when VOY premiered? If you were even born yet.
Go back to your STD. Kurtzmanbots are not welcome.
That's not how she looks at it. A potential Q-human hybrid baby would be to her the equivalent of an Omega Particle. In other words, she would be trading a free ride home for a universal threat to everyone.
Imagine being told to our memories will be wiped when your sent back 😂
Something I don't understand about this scene...
Q mentioning that their memories would be wiped to protect the time line and Riker wearing an older uniform both suggest that Riker is from the past when he would still be serving on board the Enterprise D.
However the fact that Riker knows about Voyager and Janeway specifically says she wishes he could tell people where they were when he got home both suggest that this is a present day Riker from the Enterprise E.
If Riker is from the same time period as Janeway then it wouldn't effect the time line for him to remember being there when he got home and he should be wearing the newer uniforms that we see the Enterprise crew wearing in the movies.
If Riker is indeed from the past then he shouldn't know Katherine Janeway as the Captain of the Voyager since she wouldn't be a Captain in his time and the Voyager wouldn't even exist yet.
There's actually an episode of the Next Generation where an extra was referred to as Ensign Janeway which I believe to be either a younger version of the same character or possibly a family member. Either way it's plausible that Riker is aware of Janeway even on board the Enterprise D but I don't believe she was a Captain until the beginning of Voyager which takes place around the same time as the Next Gen movies do. Voyager actually seemingly starting the same time as Generations as another version of the EMH also appears on board the Enterprise D and Voyager never switched over to the new uniforms that became standard on the Enterprise E and DS9 cause she was lost in the delta quadrant and didn't know about the new uniforms.
It's possible Q put Riker in an older uniform that Janeway would recognize rather than introducing her crew to the new style uniforms... but then why not just put him in the same style uniform Janeway's crew is wearing rather than an even older style uniform? I mean the DS9 crew also wore the Voyager style uniforms for a time before switching over to the movie style uniforms.
Of course trying to track the time line by the uniforms was pretty much impossible for the Next Generation because extras were constantly wandering around in uniforms from different seasons anyway, even in Generations. It's not till they started standardizing that turtle neck style that the uniforms were actually consistent with a specific time period. Original series not included... Next Generation (movies included), DS9, and Voyager all happen close enough to have some over lap of certain events happening at the same time between the different shows. The original series (movies included) however is far enough in the past that there's not really any over lap of events. Even in Generations which seems like an over lap of events only happens because of a nexus anomaly where time has no meaning. So there's not really any over lap between The original series where events are happening concurrently with events in another series.
That’s probably Q messing with you.
Unless he reads the memos about what future ships will have what captains waiting for them
@@drockjr that makes more sense. I'm sure Riker would be aware of those things
@@drockjr That's my theory. This Riker is from season 7 of TNG. With this Riker being from season 7 that would: explain the old uniforms, the old combadge, his knowledge of Voyager & his knowledge of Captain Janeway. If Riker was on the shortlist for command of Voyager then he certainly would have learned that Janeway got assigned as Voyager's Captain.
Or, and this is a controversial take: they just didn’t think about nuance or time periods and just gave him “his” uniform to wear for a short scene.
If it helps any, if I had to theorise beyond the costume designers not thinking, I would say this is Riker from the last season of TNG - Voyager was probably well under construction by that time if not nearly finished - Riker would likely know who got to captain it.
"Your memories will be wiped before you get b-"
"Your memories will be wiped...because you're hosts from west world..."
So Captain Janeway was given command of Voyager prior to the events of Star Trek: Generations given Riker's pre movie eta combadge...
its looks like it, i often wondered if voyager was newer than the enterprise E, but going from riker, looks like voyager was older, and the Enterprise D may have still been in service.
Enterprise D isn't destroyed until a few months after Voyager is lost.
I just noticed a little flaw in this scene. First of all, this episode takes place during season 2 of Voyager, so it's sometime during 2372. Now in the last few seconds of this video, I noticed that Riker was wearing the old com badge with the gold ellipse attached to the arrow, as seen during the TNG series, whereas the badges with the gold trapezoid (currently being worn by the Voyager crew) were not issued to the Enterprise officers until sometime after the TNG finale "All Good Things" and before the movie "Generations". Riker is also wearing the TNG uniform issued after season 3, which means that Q had to have plucked him out of his time from anywhere between 2366 and 2371 and Voyager was launched shortly after the destruction of the Enterprise D in 2371. So he had to have been plucked out of time at least a year before Voyager was even launched. So the question is even if he knew Janeway, how does he know about Voyager?
Assuming you are correct there is this. Voyager was being built at the time. Riker could have known about the ship. As seen in TNG, most officers of rank know the others or have heard of at least some of them. No doubt possible names for the captain of this new Intrepid ship would be floating around. Riker might have been among them and he might have read about Janeway.
@@welme23 True. But nevertheless, given the facts I stated about his uniform and com badge, he had to sense he had been plucked out of his own time; because again, Voyager was launched shortly after the events of "Generations" and Riker's com badge was the standard issue before the events of that movie.
He likely knew who she was being assigned to Voyager. Also look how confused he looked that Voyager was lost and was on it. Almost like he didn't have knowledge of it's disappearance or he could be on the ship.
Q probably wanted to Riker in that good old uniform again.
In a world where everything is unusual, "This is most unusual" is Janeway's attempt sound judge-like.
Yeah, that line strikes me as odd. Unusual, even.
Pokerface Most unusually odd.
Look at Janeway’s face at 0:41. She must be gutted at being deprived of informing Earth of Voyager’s predicament.
Question: How would Riker know about Voyager? Based on his uniform and badge it took place well before the series began
Dunno, offically the uniform change for the USS enterprise happened sometime in 2371, so its entirely possible he does know. See the movie Star Trek: Generations.
@Tejesh Patel That is correct, Kathryn Janeway was promoted and named to Captain of the USS Voyager as in one episode where Seven Of Nine goes back to when Voyager never was taken to the Delta Quadrant and is in Spacedock getting the final bits and pieces put onto her, Kathryn beams aboard and gets shown around by the admiral.
@@Meerkat040 That is also correct, Generations is the final film to show the pre-TNG uniform and the TNG/DS9 uniform as well as DS9 had the uniform change before the Enterprise-D crew did.
@@Meerkat040 If this Riker was pulled forward in time from around the time of All Good Things and if Riker was on the short list for being given command of Voyager he would have known about Voyager and he would have found out that Janeway became the captain.
What always bugged me about this was that Riker apparently is aware of who Janeway is and that she's the captain of Voyager, but his uniform indicates that he's from several years before Voyager was even launched. I suppose he could've been plucked from the very thin time in which both were being used -- Generations apparently takes place in 2371, which is the same year Voyager is lost -- but it makes more sense to pull a contemporary Riker, who would've been wearing the same uniforms as Voyager's crew, or even the newer black-and-gray uniforms of late-era DS9 or the last few TNG films.
If you look at the com badge on Riker you'll notice it was the style that was worn during the series of TNG & the first 2 seasons of DS9. The com badge was changed for Star Trek Generations & for the rest of DS9 & all of Voyager. My theory is that Riker was brought forward in time from around late season 7 of TNG. If Riker was on the short list for command of Voyager he would have been informed that Janeway was given command of Voyager instead of him, this is how he could have recognized her.
@@alexmcintyre8229 that could be the case. He could've been a runner up for the new Voyager captain
That, or Q just wanted to see Riker in the old TNG era season 3 uniform.
Riker did most of the Spin-offs. His clone was on DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise. He even has a appearance in the new Picard series.
Awesome.
He's basically the new Spock.
Must have wiped my memory as well, I can’t remember the end of the clip.
The rest are confused and says your in a dream
He didnt change the timeline for riker. He knew who janeway was so they are same time period just wasnt aware they were still alive
Anton very true
But Q exists outside the spacetime continuum, and presumably knows how things are generally meant to play out... though he clearly doesn't foresee *everything*... oh dear I've gone crosseyed.
Exactly, Enterprise D crew must have gotten told that Voyager was either lost in space or had been destroyed trying to get the Marquis.
@@GenGamesUniverse What i don't get, is why didn't the Enterprise E get the gel pack system, like voyager had, with that ship been newer.
Why is Riker in a TNG uniform? If he recognizes Janeway, even if just by name, he should at least be in the same early DS9 / Voyager uniform she's in, if not the grey shouldered First Contact / Late DS9 uniform.
Not necessarily - Q can grab him from any time he wants so this doesn't have to be Riker from that exact moment, it could be Riker from 10 minutes earlier, a year earlier, etc, just like the other 2. Q just happened to grab one pre-Generations. Remember technically Generations took place a few months after Caretaker even though Generations was released first so Riker could easily know she is going to command Voyager even though he isn't wearing the new comm badge and DS9 uniform. I think at some point Q even says he thought Riker was going to get command so it makes sense he knows of it. As for the uniform, the TNG style were still in use even on DS9 for years after Generations - Tom Riker wore it in Defiant which is after Caretaker but before Generations - so him being in that uniform isn't unusual. It is unusual that Q didn't grab Riker from that current time, but it is still correct.
Jonathan Frakes was on tng & managed to gest star on DS9 Voyager and Enterprise.
Q should have kept rikers memory. If nothing else, for Canon. It would be a good ending (or plot point down the line) that riker was able to at least tell starfleet of voyager. Just because he is in a different uniform doesn't mean riker is from another time
Have you ever been teleported from one galaxy quadrant to another quadrant on a ship with a crew that has been classed as missing?
not that I remember 🧐
Riker is wearing the older TNG style uniform and combadge, how could he possibly know that Janeway is the Captain of Voyager, a ship that for him hasn't been built yet?
Where hasn't Riker been, the absolute slaaaaag! Love him
I'm never going to complain about more Riker, never
"Your memories will get wiped before we send you back"
Riker: Oh..I see *proceed to discreetly scribble down something on a piece of paper and put it in his pocket*
That would have been a different ending altogether.
That would have been a different ending
That would have been a different ending.
That would have been a different ending
Here, put this in your mouth.
Cool having Riker in this episode. Still, it makes no sense. Like it's stated later, Riker never met Quinn before this episode. It was Riker's ancestor, Thaddeus Riker, who met Quinn in 1864. Riker are just shown a picture of him by Q and tells the story he has heard. Why wouldn't Q bring Thaddeus Riker himself to Voyager? Probably because they just had to bring a familiar face...
Atle Kristiansen I mean, tbh they could’ve even had Jonathan Frakes play Thaddeus Riker if all they wanted was a small cameo, or instead have depressed Q be the one who originally gave Cmdr Riker the big push to join the academy and become a Starfleet Officer 🤷♂️
Sure. These ideas would make more sense than what is shown...
Probably because Will Riker was more historically significant (in the universe if this show I mean)
When I saw Riker I immediately freaked out in excitement.
"You can't report when you're back home." My thoughts: Noooo!
"I don't need your fantasy women!"
Riker is such a smoothie. Is he ever not making a move on a woman?
Or doing his chair manoeuvre
If move on her, if she wasn't such a damned liberal 😜
How crashing this must of been here stands William T Riker. First officer of the USS Enterprise someone who could get a message back to star fleet about where they are and about the impending threat of the Borg but your forced to keep quiet about it all, all I can say is if I was in janeway’s place I couldn’t do it,
I wonder if Janeway ever sent Riker a message once Voyager established communication with Starfleet and told him what happened and how much his short time on Voyager meant to her after being stuck in the Delta Quadrant for a year.
Totally forgot this had happened.
Technically shouldn't Riker not know about Voyager/Janeway because he still has his TNG comm badge and Voyager would not have been launched yet?
Not necessarily. In the film Star Trek: Generations (stardate 48632.4) the Enterprise crew were still mixing their classic-TNG and DS9-style uniforms (though they _were_ using the VOY-era comm badges at that point). We know the DS9 crew were wearing the VOY comm badge as of 48212.4 (S2E1 "The Search, Part I") canonically prior to VOY's "Caretaker" pilot episode (stardate 48307.5). In the VOY episode "Relativity", we're taken back to the time of Janeway's tour of Voyager before its launch (c. stardate 48038.5) yet interestingly, the comm badges even then were all VOY era. The latest canonically certain stardate we can assign use of the TNG badges is in the TNG finale, "All Good Things" (stardate 47988). However -- and here's the kicker -- DS9 _also_ used the TNG badges for a time, including through its entire second season; and although we're given a stardate to the penultimate episode of that season, "The Tribunal" (47944.2), we are _not_ given the stardate for its season finale "The Jem'Hadar", which could (and would've) theoretically been the window of overlap when Starfleet assigned Voyager to Janeway, thus giving some breathing room for explaining how the Starfleet comm badge of the TNG era could still be in use after the introduction of the VOY era badges. After all, if the uniforms could still be in flux aboard the Enterprise by the time of Generations (after the crews of new ships at that period, like Voyager, had otherwise standardized their uniforms on a ship-wide scale), it wouldn't be unreasonable to imagine the comm badge switch occurring in a similarly haphazardly manner, albeit off camera.
Maybe they knew each other from elsewhere.
Love this cute little cameo
Love Next Gen and Voyager. Saying that love all Trek. But Next Gen and Voyager are my two favourite shows.
An odd thing happens right after this clip. Riker identifies an ancestor from the American Civil War. How many people know about individual ancestors from five hundred years ago?
if they were a famous one then perhaps they would.
Picard knew about his ancestors as well. That's kind of funny ;)
Me
I thought he was going to bring Jean-Luc Picard
From what I heard Patrick Stewart didn't want to do this episode.
Harry Fox ah I see.
I wish they’da used Sisko
@LordGroyper Marcus of Queensbury Rules!?
@@harryfox3139 | "From what I heard Patrick Stewart didn't want to do this episode." Or he was (at that time) becoming a bigger cinema star thanks to the X-Men films and simply did not want to do any TV work.
Riker appears in a lot of Star Trek series. TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, Picard, Lower Decks, plus the TNG movies.
How does Riker know about Janeway and Voyager. My guess is she was assigned while the ship was still under construction. I'm more interested in what events the other Q did to Riker.
VXGAMING, He saved the life of one of Riker’s ancestors in the American Civil War.
Why wouldn't the First Officer of the flagship of Starfleet not know about an Intrepid class starship suddenly going missing? That would be a fleet-wide announcement.
This is most unusual.
Lol
I am as curious as you are
Damn why did you cut it off I wanted to see the whole scene
Joe Man
Episode is called death wish season 2 go to Netflix and watch it
Tuvok saying, "I'm just as curious as you are Captain" is the Vulcan equivalent of "Hell yes--let's make this happen!" LOL
If I had a chance I would have secretly slipped Riker a note or some form of Data Chip that held a message and recording made by Janeway to Starfleet telling them of Voyager’s fate and where they are.
Steve Robertson Not her I mean if me if I was a part of that meeting or a member of Voyager during all this.
It's gotta be frustrating to have to take shit from a dude that could just snap your whole ship back to Earth.
And doesn't he do that in one episode, literally only to send them right back to the Delta Quadrant? Talk about rubbing salt in the wound lol
@@DeltaKnight he actually does it in this actual episode. As a mean of blackmailing Jaynway to side with him. Which she ofcourse refuses.
At least Q didn't pop Riker to Voyager when he was in the middle of a "thrusting" maneuver.
I love that riker just kind of gets annoyed at Q And then just take the situation as it is no questioning or anything just goes with it
Sad that they never had a crossover or something bigger than that
That would have been a great film, End Game and Nemesis crossing over, Voyager happens to gate crash, and saves the enterprise.
Q is like Mister Mxyztplk?
Yeah, but easier to pronounce backwards...
Wait...how come Riker's wearing an older comm badge?
Construction on Voyager must have started sometime during TNG's last few seasons and DS9's first two seasons where they were still wearing the old comm badges. Janeway may have already been appointed captain of Voyager and the Enterprise-D crew may have heard about this. So Q may have taken Riker from that point in time.
From what I’ve read it’s more an error on costuming’s part, since Voyager left after the end of TNG but before Generations, and by the time of this episode the new grey uniforms were in use I believe, so, this Riker is likely from around a year and a half in the past from Janeway’s perspective, it’s either that or this Riker simply used his old combadge occasionally, or the time when he was taken the new badges hadn’t yet arrived on the Enterprise; all of these are possible since I believe in Generations and in DS9 you see the older badges on unnamed crewmen in some scenes after the new ones rolled out
Simple. Once they got their new uniforms, Riker took to wearing his old one in his off time. It just felt nostalgic as he sat around his quarters in the old red and black jumpsuit. There, problem solved. :p
I remember this...it was epic....even kore elic was on his appearance in Sar Trek Picard
I'm surprised Riker didn't punch Q or something
No, that was Sisko.
@@specialk9424 I know but Riker hated Q very much as well and I'm sure punching him was very tempting!!
they need to smuggle riker onto discovery somehow, since its clearly become a tradition with tv trek
And he's already been confirmed to appear in the new Picard series as well.
They don't care about Cannon so it wouldn't surprise me if they did.
@Burns me up. He was confirmed to appear in the show; one of the trailers for the new series shows Picard meeting him and Deanna, and Riker apparently has a daughter now as well.
Of course technically Riker had been on the USS Voyager before this moment. Jonathan Frakes directed three of the early episodes; Projections, Prototype and Parturition
Riker has wrong combadge on. USS Voyager launched in 2071 after the combadge was updated. So Q must have took Riker from a time just prior to Voyager launching and/or Katheryn Janeway due to take command. Of which he was aware. Since Voyager was a prestigious posting.
Thumbs dwn cause it should hv bn longer? Just gtn good then it stops??
Here is a reason why they don't have the full clip is the probably would have got flag for copyrights UA-cam is doing that a lot lately
Bad error from the writers. RIKER SHOULDN'T KNOW WHO CAPTAIN JANEWAY IS; I'll explain: Look at riker's uniform badge. It wasn't anymore in use when Janeway became captain, hell Voyager wasn't even built yet.
The riker in this segment Is late TNG, there was no Voyager yet and no Janeway captain (since her First command was in fact VOY); yet riker recognises her.
Matteo Beneduce damn
It's a costume error
ACTUALLY.... it's quite possible for him to have the ellipse com badge here AND recognize Janeway as captain of the USS Voyager -- it was launched on stardate 48038.5 and TNG's finale took place on stardate 47988, which is, what, a few weeks before the ship launched? You mean to tell me that Commander Riker wouldn't have been aware of this next-gen class of starship getting its first few captains? When he'd been questioning himself on why he hadn't moved on to command a ship of his own after all this time under Picard? Come on.. 😆
Matteo Beneduce he probably knew who she was from past experience, like come on Starfleet officers seem to know everyone on TNG
@@captainriker6526 See? Will agrees with me.
Hes like Quentin Tarantino. He directs and stars in it
Possible Continuity error... Riker is wearing the pre Generations Starfleet combadge (round) vs. the rest of the crew, who are wearing the Generations combadge (slotted bar).
He could of been taken out of time and space by Q. My guess is he comes from a time some months before Voyager is lost in the Delta Quadrant. Pre combadge change in 2371. But whilst Voyager is in final construction and has had its Commanding officer assigned.
Another reason is Starfleet multiple times offered Riker his own command and didn't take it up until 2380. So stands to reason he would know about prestigious new ships in construction.
"Your memories will be wiped before you get back."
Potential for abuse?
Who ever posted this should have their memory wiped clean.
Just as well Riker just so happened to be wearing a neatly pressed uniform and was not doing something like watching TV in his underwear.
Damn, didn't get to see him sit down
If Riker was impacted by Quinn why isn’t Thomas Riker also present as well as William Riker? Riker may find out about it whenever Voyager gets its logs transmitted back to ufp.
Hell, let them keep Thomas Riker. He's been stuck in a Cardassian prison for two years, I'm sure he'd find Voyager an eminently better situation.
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I hate how they treat copies differently. Harry was the only exception.
@@2bituser569 Never promoted, never scored... I'd say Harry got it as bad as any other copy.
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I meant Harry was accepted not treated as inferior like Thomas Riker. Will Riker was immediately promoted after that mission to Lt Cmdr. Thomas in DS9 was still a Lt.