Honestly Jojo shouldn’t have responded in regards to what Christy said about Giana. They never had a season together and the way Chloe was treated was horrible.
Absolutely and the one thing about Gianna that I absolutely hated was the fact that she would stand there and watch this teacher rip a kid apart and be perfectly OK with it and go along with it if you’re an adult and you choose not to stand up for a kid that’s being abused by another adult your part of the problem It’s like knowing that your best friend is in a toxic relationship and you have the power to guide her away from it and you choose not to you contributing to it
i see your point but also if your friend was being called a bad person and you honestly thought they were a good person, you would probably defend them too. should she have said something? no. would we all have probably done something similar or maybe. we don’t know
@@sienarramirez Like I said by choosing not to do anything about it you are part of the problem it’s like when you see someone getting bullied and you don’t say or do anything about it and just because someone is your friend that does not justify that they are a good person just because you know then being a phone also means being willing to call your friend out when they are being accused of being mean or hurtful towards someone and much more if you are aware of it and keep denying it even though it’s clearly happening
Actually, it's kinda common for victims of abuse to deny that they or other victims experienced "abuse" because it is too painful for them to confront that reality. I'm wondering if maybe that was what was happening with JoJo?
Jojo is so hypocritical when it comes to the girls she dances with. She will defend Abby to hell and back but won’t speak up against Abby saying rude things about the girls and moms.
To be fair Jojo is a kid (even though she just recently turned 18 i still call that a kid) and Abby should be a full grown ass adult. Jojo was out of pocket for that tiktok but she is allowed to defend whoever she wants that she knows personally. The mature way to do so comes with age that she doesn't have. Keep in mind that she has as much right to say her positive experience as the people with negative experiences do.
@@olavdorosario6540 because she has been coming towards people who speak against Abby or Gia. The latest was when she went after Christi because she claimed Gia was not as nice as she looked like in the show. Funny enough this channel, on their other show where they read the production notes has has already depicted Gia's bad comments and reactions once or twice. And while Jojo was not respected by Abby, you can't really compare to some of the things Chloe had to endure. Not to mention Abby admitting on camera that she mistreated a child (Chloe) because the producers wouldn't kick her out due to contract length. Jojo overlooking all of these things on purpose isn't very good for her own "I am super kind and cute" brand. I don't and I never will understand people who excuse Abby's behaviour.
Christie saying that Gianna was not nice is “the most disgusting and ignorant thing” that Jojo has ever seen? Really? Girl… do you see the state of our country right now?
It really does bother me how JoJo only speaks about issues the only affect her you shouldn’t really speak on an issue just because it personally affects you and I 100% agree with your comment turn black lives matter she stayed quiet SOS Columbia stayed quiet Israel attacking Palestine she stayed quiet and now SOS Cuba she still staying quiet and don’t get me wrong it is absolutely important to speak on gay rights but there’s so many other minorities in groups that have it just as worse if not sometimes worse
When I watched the show, i didn’t watch it very well because I thought Kelly or Christi was jealous of Maddie but after watching this series, I have respect for them.
@@silence-wn4qi You know how people would love to find a reason to hate on Christi so I see why Christi handled it nicely. But I agree, she was much nicer than jojo deserved. Jojo deserved to get cussed out for defending literal child abusers and constantly attacking the victims for speaking out. Jojo should have kept her mouth shut and stayed in a child’s place. Nobody asked her. This is the result of bad parenting and being raised to do whatever you want with no discipline.
It takes a very strong person these days to admit to mistakes and correct themselves. Even the smallest and dumbest mistakes won't be owned up to. I have a lot of respect for you. Thank you for educating all of us!
How does Abby have the nerve to call anyone “dirt poor” before the show started, when she’s the one who had to bribe customers with free classes to get her utilities and cell phone turned back on? That’s probably what made kelly say “good luck paying your bills without my tuition” when Abby threw the chair at Paige. Also, Abby is/was the most money hungry person on the show, apart from maybe Melissa, so how she can call anyone else money hungry is so far behind me.
I never understood this interview because competitive dance is expensive af to begin with. If they were dirt poor, they never would have been able to dance competitively
@@corimoon3360 the fuck you mean “so?” why are you going to be mad at a manager for doing their job and taking their cut? 10% is low. Y’all are just mad bc it’s Abby
@@folklore_of_beth As far as I understood on the show, Abby was only ever the manager of the Ziegler girls and Kendall. Holly, Christi, and Kelly purposefully didn't make Abby their kids' manager because they knew how she worked. So as far as Chloe, Nia, Brooke, and Paige are concerned, Abby is only their dance teacher and not their manager and therefore deserves nothing that she isn't already getting in dance fees from them.
Right like sis??? Read the room? Her dumbass was really defending Abby. Someone who doesn’t even LIKE her!! Lmao. The dumbest people really be out here defending their fake ass “friends”.
I think Jojo didn't even watch the show before she joined, because what Christi said about Abby AND Gia ganging up on the kids Abby disliked is absolutely true.
Am I the only who is stuck on the fact the producers wanted to do a dance about a cancer ward and a dance about obesity with an overweight dancer?! These producers are gonna be holding up the line on judgement day.
@@lettersforchrist Looking at the production notes and an episode where Holly and Abby fight, it was likely the producers would've chosen Nia for the "overweight" role in the group. Although Abby made a LOT of comments about all the girls's appearances, she seemed to comment on Nia's the most.
that would of been god awful. that would of caused many fights, and potential bdd and eds. i surprised they didn’t pick that, it would of caused tons of drama. too awful
Abby, if the moms were dirt poor, how could they afford dances lessons and all of that. The first season they made it clear they pour over hundreds of dollars in dance. If they were dirt poor then they couldn't do that. Poor people don't have the privilege of pouring hundreds into a child dance team and travel. And she wanted the kids to be homeschooled so they could focus on dance. If they were dirt poor then that would be more hardship on them.
see the thing is they were making middle class money but by the end of the month they were poor because they living pay check to pay check. Dance took up a lot of the money they made which is why they were always at the studio trying to get air time in so they could make a little bit of money to pay for the trips. Melissa and her ex husband filed for bankruptcy. Kelly's husband had a job that made enough money. Christi and her husband filed for bankruptcy and Jill came later when they started making money from the show
Idk why Jojo feels the need to call Christi out when she never even filmed a season with her but thats on getting needlessly involved in drama even though your brand is anti-bullying ✨❤️✨
Well, when the first thing she says upon joining the team was "do you think I can replace Chloe?" And you hear how her mom talked about Christy and Sarah, we really shouldn't be surprised. Also lol at her defending Gianna's treatment of Chloe when Gianna didn't do a damn thing to defend HER when Abby was bullying HER (which she regularly cried about) So basically, abuse and being a bystander are fine...as long as they're not hurting HER.
@@robloxdancecompany9776 because jojo should be called out for that shit. Plus making a UA-cam comment isnt really calling someone out, jojo did much worse with discrediting abuse on a platform of millions. You have Roblox in your name so your obviously a child and your brain isnt fully formed so you wont fully get it. Your just a jojo stan.
Looking at some of those possible dance ideas I am so happy they didn't do most of them. They literally seem so exploitive towards certain people and topics just for the sake of views
I don't believe Abby one bit when she said that "sHe inVitEd cHloE tO tHe mAsteRcLassEs." She literally excluded her from every opportunity in season 4 (girl party, freaks like me, abby's studio rescue) so why in the hell would she invite her to her masterclasses. Very conflicting don't ya think? AND she blatantly lied about when she made fun of Chloe's eye saying in an online interview 'don't believe everything you read' when Christi, Chloe, Cathy and Joanne Morales have confirmed that Abby really did in fact insult Chloe's eye.
i wonder is she saw that clip that was floating around a few years back where the scene when she actually said it isn't edited and you actually hear and see her say it 🤔
she was really disrespectful towards choloe and the rest of the girls other than Maddie she would constantly tear them down I wish I could Reach through the TV and Rip her head off you could see it in them kids faces the constant abuse they Endured was jus disgusting them girls deserve there credit they all worked there butts off for years...
@@berrisfueller6221 yup it's crazy what she did she even said it out her own mouth she didn't want choloe to win and she won all the time let that sank in 🤨🤔 she did sabotage choloe when she beat Maddie
@@Dontresssmith3757yuppp Francisco got fired because he got on an interview and confirmed that Abby went to the judges to get Maddie and Chloe’s scores switched when they competed the same solo.
Note: Just because you hear Abby's version of something after hearing someone else's, it doesn't mean her version is truthful or correct. She has an agenda to make everyone else look bad. She can't accept any blame for the bad parts and wants all the credit for the good.
Thank you! I’ve noticed that crop up a lot in these videos. Abby is not a trustworthy source at all. Proof doesn’t come from he said she said, especially where Abby is involved.
@@jonasluv945 Exactly! Abby shouldn't always get the last word, and she LOVES spinning the story to favor herself. She shouldn't even be allowed to discuss the Hylands or Lukasiaks in her public appearances, even without using names.
I don't even know what or who to believe anymore. I listen the mom's podcast and Christi's podcast and I also watch Abby's youtube videos and they're all saying different things even the old members.
Agreed. I watched every single video on her UA-cam because I thought the producers were the sole villains until I saw dance moms uncovered and learned that she is just as evil.
The notes literally say “something offensive.” These girls were children were still dancing and it’s a bit concerning they wanted them to do an offensive dance
Jojo was wrong for antagonizing Christ. Gianna was inconsistent in how she treated people. If Jojo had a great experience that’s great, it gives her no right to gaslight Christi. Gianna, Christi and Chloe have a ten year past that Jojo will never understand, so she should keep her mouth shut. Jojo let Abby and Gianna disrespect her on TV for a year and let it go. She should not expect everyone else to react the way she did, as she never went through the trauma of the OGs.
Completely agree, but please don't say that JoJo "let Abby and Gianna disrespect her". She was a kid and was in an uneven power dynamic between them. Victims shouldn't be blamed for their abuse just because they wouldn't stand up for themselves.
The producers are so disgusting. Dancing about people dying? Cancer wards and the I/P conflict? Disgusting As an add on: JoJo claiming that Christi saying “Gianna isn’t nice” is the most ignorant, disgusting thing she’s ever heard is so so so tone deaf and something that will never sit right with me
If done well, dances about dark topics like that can be incredible. IF they're done well. As in, not anything to do with producers who live for nothing more than shock value, and abby, who exists only on spite and the intent to embarrass children.
@@earl_gay Exactly. As a dancer and aspiring choreographer, I completely agree with you. But making those dances not tone-deaf is really hard. I personally think that whoever is choreographing should know/be with or be struggling with the issue. It not only makes it REAL but it helps stop any ignorances. Like the lesbian marriage dance. I hope if they did that they would have someone of the lgbtq community who is wlw there, because it IS a very touchy topic and as someone in the lgbtq community, I wouldn’t want to see a tone-deaf ignorant dance about my own rights. I hope this made sense 💀
@spongebobs krusty krabs me too. As a Jew is would feel like we were being mocked and that it would just create more hate on both sides I also hate brooke’s Anne Frank solo but maybe that’s a didcussion for another time
IMO I would've loved to see a dark cabaret number (when they were older) or a game of thrones dark contemporary group dance. Obvs not all of the listed ones are appropriate (see Israel/Palistine conflict) but those 2 could've been really cool. Also a dance about the Bubonic Plague would've been interesting to watch if performed well and appropriately.
Christie’s response to Jojo sounding off where it wasn’t her place was so good. She was so polite and explained her point excellently, not backing down while not attacking or belittling Jojo.
I love that you arent scared to do this! A lot of creators tend to not like admitting they are wrong until they are called out and then it becomes a big issue.
Your evidence about Christi suing the show, that debunks Abby accusing Christi of only being about the money, as , if Christi and Marc proceeded with suing them , with all the proof out there regarding the abuse Abby committed towards Chloe, they would have won and boy the show would have been out of pocket big time and most likely result in the cancellation of the show. So where is Abby's thank you to Christi and Marc for not pursuing in suing the show and knowing the show did wrong and were no longer to be sued, why did they make it challenging for Chloe to leave and start competitive dance with studio 19, such an act is imo not reflective of appreciation.
whixh is exactly why they dropped her contract they knew she would have gotten the whole thing shut down and everyone involved would have had charges. Abby's always saying they were ungrateful but whenever she needs to be grateful she tries to disappear like John Cena
i think the whole drama over the watermelon fight is like literally so over the top? like who actually cares if she was upset over not winning she was so young?
Agreed! Also, I never see anyone mentioning that the very point of the game is to be frustrating... Even if you were standard-level competitive, bumped your knee, underwater, and I think also the youngest one playing - yeah, you might cry
@@sugarmaddi I think Holly's problem was Melissa came at Nia basically trying to say she was wild and rough and that she was acting like a boy. I thought it came out in an offensive racist way because when i was little i was always told stop being so rough black girls need to stop acting like little boys by m family. I think that's why it became a whole issue with Christi and Holly because she was basically calling the rest of their children animals. And when i first watched the episode i was shocked that they let Melissa say that and didn't censor it
Wow, it’s so wise of you to recognise your own mistakes ! No many people are doing this ! I’m glad to support a channel held by someone who is honest ! 🙏🏻
That phone call & attempted bribe to Audrey, the attempts to destroy Nia's singing career - how can anyone defend Abby after that or blame her horrible actions on production? How many times do you think she's called people and tried to destroy opportunities for Nia? for Kendall? for Chloe?
Christi confirmed at a fan q&a that if Chloe was in the freaks like me video then none of the other girls would've been allowed in the video. There's one case of her sabotaging Chloe. There's no doubt that there's more but that one springs to my mind.
I think JoJo has a bit of a habit of trying to get involved and dispute OG's when they're trying to speak of their experiences. First Brooke and then Christi. JoJo may be on good terms with Abby these days (lord knows why), but she obviously was not there when the OG cast was and doesn't know their experiences. She should have just stayed out of it and focused on her own career.
Abby accusing everyone of being ungrateful when they literally had to distance themselves from her because she was abusive, and the show (while it did gain them fame and money) was a traumatising experience for them. Can she really not see that?
Yup... Abby was abused by the producers, of course, and that should be discussed as well, but Abby also abused and traumatized those kids, and she doesn't get to just say "oh, well."
How would they possibly be able to create a dance about that? That doesn't seem like something that can be in a dance. But regardless it would have been 100% wrong and awful but I really don't know how that could have been portrayed in a dance
@@lesterine77trust me, the producers and abby would’ve found a way. they put a car crash of teen drivers, suicide, rosa parks, the girls appearing to be nude,etc, i could go on. literally anything that makes you think “why is a 9 year old performing this” i don’t doubt they wouldn’t have tried.
@@patronuscharm5830girl I’m guessing ur from the Israeli side because only they would say such a thing when the world is realising that Palestine is going through a genocide 🫣
I love JoJo but she needs to stop getting into former cast member's business when they talk about not liking their experience/Abby/etc. She made a similar angry comment on Brooke's TikTok about Facebook recommending Abby as a friend. I'm happy for her that's she's forgiven Abby/very close with the crew and all that good stuff but that doesn't mean no one can say otherwise. Also I find it funny that JoJo is insisting she knows how Gianna's really like when I'm pretty sure Christi was around when Gianna was still dancing for Abby. I'm gonna be honest, I'm curious how JoJo and Abby's relationship is gonna develop now she's an adult. Personally I always got the vibe that the reason why the Siwas have been generally positive about DM is because of Jess and wanting to look good for the press, so it's gonna be interesting to see if it changes now that JoJo doesn't necessarily need to listen to Jess all the time.
50 episodes??? Wow that’s wild, I love this series so much! Time flies! Thank you for making this video and correcting your mistakes! Love your channel
I think it’s obvious that Electricity was Abby’s ideas. The producers didn’t really meddle a lot until season 1.5-2. And Electricity is LA competition jazz style, it was pretty common those years to see people competing like that.
I love jojo but she had no right to refute Christi’s statements. Everyone has their own personal experiences and jojo wasn’t even there when Chloe was there so how is she supposed to know how chloe was really treated by gia?
She had no right to say it the way she did, but she was understandably upset, since Christi was stating her own experience as a universal fact, thus erasing everyone else's experiences, the thing she later accused Jojo of doing. Thankfully, Christi took it like the adult she is and answered in an amazing way.
@@nuriamateos6209 You sound dumb. Christi wasn’t stating her own experience as a universal fact. She was just stating a fact. JOJO was stating her experience as a universal fact thus erasing Christi’s experience. The thing she accused Christi of doing is literally what she did. Stop twisting it to make Christi look wrong when she wasn’t and you know it. When will jojo take it like the adult she’s about to be and stop getting in everyone’s business to defend a literal racist child abuser? Y’all can’t be this fucking stupid. Y’all wanna demonize Christi so damn bad.
I LOVE that you posted an update to clarify this way! So many times things seem different than they were depending upon editing, or he said/she said and it’s so healthy for everyone to see how we can be fallible in our judgments. More creators should learn from this! You have a subscriber for life! No matter what content you make ❤️
The producers wanted to use an overweight dancer as a gimmick? 🤦🏽♀️ Also what the hell kind of filter is Abby using at 8:47 in her conversation with Cathy? Lol.
When I saw christy cry and hold chole I saw the true pain and frustration she had from the way chole was treated. She looks so done and In so much pain
OF COURSE Gianna is not “nice”; she’s either a narcissist, or someone with a weak spine who will attach themselves to a narcissist in order to give themselves internal validation (probability the later). Abby would NEVER be able to work with an assistant who didn’t agree with everything she said, carry out her every whim, back up her lies and delusions, and back down to Abby whenever there was a conflict. That is the only person Abby (a narcissist) is not abusive to :: someone who they are in complete control of.
I love that you did this! We live in a world where people have a hard time admitting their mistakes. You are one of my top Dance Moms content creators.
I really respect you owning up to mistakes and elaborating on previous points. This is a really cool thing for you to do. Thank you for all your hard work into uncovering the truth about dance moms
At 25:03 from what I know, both maddie and Mackenzie knew that they’d be leaving the show at some point that season, they just didn’t know when. Maddie got told when they were leaving for definite but Mackenzie found out the exact date they were leaving at the same time everyone else found out the Ziegler’s would be leaving the show.
I love that you went back and corrected yourself, it really shows how devoted you are to making sure that you are truly sharing the entire story/all evidence accounted for.
Yay!! I’ve been waiting for another Uncovered and you didn’t disappoint! I love that you made this video, and I admire that you have corrected yourself so that there’s no misinformation being spread in the fandom
i feel like the show never had psychologists in the earlier seasons, I’m guessing they might’ve from the middle to late seasons. i also feel like we would’ve heard about it from the cast (especially on christy and the other moms’ podcasts).
I feel like Dance Moms in itself appealed to p3dos and creeps. The fact that the producers would exploit *CHILDREN* is criminal and I can't even re-watch my favorite routines without thinking about it.
@@sharnagrayson9649 How?? Ummm because of the close up shots of the girls bottom halves?? A couple of the staff and people on the show have been outed as pedos??? What the show was about does not matter. You really don’t think Pedo’s watch shit like this??? Are you dumb?? Come on now.
How sad that Melissa allowed Mackenzie to get scream at and yelled at so Abby can make Maddie a star and make sure she got the most opportunities than the other girls.
4:36 I am shocked Lol “something with a cross: something offensive” the producers PLANNED numbers to be offensive. SMH and to think that of course Abby would get blamed for it “An overweight dancer”? For “Child obesity”? How humiliating.
It's very sketchy that she sold some of the costumes online, intentional or not that's the type of thing a stalker of a child star would be interested in. I'm sure that wasn't her intention, but knowing these kids are on TV, that's something she should have been conscious of.
@@Jessica.Shawnte I don't think there's anything wrong with it if they weren't children on TV, but I think it's very naïve of her, at best, to sell them to strangers online considering the girls' fame.
Can we just acknowledge how JoJo literally invalidates anyone’s experience that was negative with Abby like JoJo we get it you had an amazing wonderful experience with Abby but guess what they were people were not literally traumatized and literally were deprived from something they love to do I’ll because of a dance teacher honestly at this point I really just think the JoJo stays in contact with Abby just because she will get cold out if she ditches Abby and will be kind of in the same position that the other girls are now because now they’re doing great wonderful without Abby and honestly without those girls there would be no show there would be no Abby Lee Miller like JoJo‘s TickTock where she said that gia had done so much for Chloe never in my life that I want to strangle someone so much By not and I will always stand by this if you are an adult that as well be capable of standing up to a child that is being abused by another adult and you choose not to your part of the problem frankly and let admit it unless it’s an issue that personally affects JoJo she does not care or with black life‘s matter she stayed quiet With the Israel he Palestinian conflict she stayed quiet literally anything that has to do with anyone else she stays silent about it unless it’s about gay rights which don’t get me wrong they’re absolutely important and absolutely valid but if you’re going to support one movement and not the other movement just because it doesn’t affect you then honestly you shouldn’t be calling yourself an advocate
About the producers "ripping up" Abby's 10% contract . . . Abby would have had a SIGNED LEGAL COPY of that contract no matter what the producers ripped up. Evidently there was never a contract giving Abby 10% of what the children made on the show. Abby SHOULD have had contracts with any of the performers who got work through ABBY's DIRECT EFFORTS. I don't think she did - possibly Kendall's video or Mackenzie's "Girl Party" if anything. More often we saw Abby INTERFERING with anyone's ability to get work, like their attempt to do a UA-cam video with a young man video "star". As for any of the performers getting work through their being seen first on the Dance Moms Show, that percent would have gone to the owners of the show or Lifetime TV. Abby probably thought she should have gotten a percentage of Maddie's income because SIA saw Maddie on the show. In many instances that would have been the case, but the Dance Moms Show was never expected to be anything when it started, so NOBODY thought about making big money from it down the line when they expected to do only 4 episodes. They all probably had basic contracts and they were all stuck with those terms.
There are laws that prohibit the same person from being an artist's manager and agent. If she acts as one, she can't act as the other. She never seemed to understand that.
@@blushchuu A bunch of the states are in lockdown except Tasmania, Australian Capital Territory, and South Australia I think, but there’s also restrictions about travelling from state to state, and there’s been some new cases, so hopefully things get better!
I knew the “tooties” incident took place in the Miami week! I’ve been trying to investigate when that took place for a while and knew that Abby and Holly went at it quite badly that week 😬
There has been a not-rare pic out for years showing the girls with their new iPads wearing the big orange bows from that dance - I don't know how anyone never figured out when it was.
@@CucFan it was kind of hard to figure out because Kendall was also given an iPad, and because she wasn’t there when this happened, I couldn’t tell when they gave them the iPads
Abby shouldn't have gotten 10% of everything the kids made on the show. Outside maybe but Christi is the one that sent in the studios audition tape not Abby. Christi is the reason they even knew who Abby was.
That thing at the end about the psychologists on set is very interesting. Awhile ago, there was the person on reddit claiming that they were a psychologist on set for the show. They were revealing a lot of info about things that happened and info about Christi. No one believed them and someone sent an Insta dm to Christi asking if there was ever a psychologist on set. She replied that there wasn’t.
i remember this lol… while it’s possible there could’ve been some sort of mental health professional on set, it definitely wasn’t the person claiming to be on reddit
When Abby says we’re rich and don’t need you any more she is talking about Maddie and Melissa because she favored Melissa and Maddie over the other moms and girls.
Except Maddie has literally nothing to do with that and was a child. Abby CHOSE to favor Maddie, and still abused (manipulated, groomed, isolated, etc.) and used her, just in a different way to the other girls. She forced her into a co-dependent relationship, and used a give and take method of approval, followed by berating, to allow her to form a deep attachment. Maddie quite literally didn’t have the capacity to “use” her, since Abby was the grown woman, and Maddie was thrown on tv, forced to be around her 24/7, when she hadn’t been previously. All she wanted to do was dance, and suddenly, everything was turned upside down once they realized they were stuck in reality tv contracts. Not to mention, Melissa had been trying to leave the show since S3, before Maddie had outside success. Abby’s literally just narcissistic and someone that enjoys twisting a narrative for sympathy.
personallly I don’t like Christi that much, but has Jojo never said “a person isn’t nice”? I may be wrong, but the only thing Christi has ever said something about Jojo publicly was when she was invalidating Brooke. And Jojo definitely deserved that.
You correcting yourself just shows how carring you are! I think some of you theories are stronger now but others fall apart but it's still interesting to know more. As we say in France "il n'y a que les cons qui ne changent pas d'avis " ( only dumb don't change their minds)😄
@@abirmohamed8343 Did Abby do terrible things? Yes but that not the point, Melissa LITERALLY faked a 5-6 year long friendship, just to make her daughter famous......
@@realamericannegro977 I live in Canada, also Abby and Melissa’s friendship was a whole other level, Melissa sat with Abby’s sick mom, her last words were to Melissa, Melissa will make her husband take Abby out to restaurants, Both her and her husband helped Abby out financially, there’s a lot more she has done for Abby, and to realize that she was faking it this whole time is just sad.
4:04 It was so sad how they treated Chloe when Abby and Cathy did the dance off it’s the same dance from Kenzie’s music video and she just standing there
This is the only dance moms account I follow. It’s so mature and different than other DM accounts. Plus it explains SO MUCH!! Thank you for actually doing so much work
Honestly, with just some footage in the show i think it proves that gia isnt all that nice. She and abby sat there a few times making fun of the dancers who were kids?
Hi I’m obsessed with your videos!!! I watch and rewatch them all the time!! Could you do a video on the mini team? I feel like we know a lot about the drama with Ellie/Yolanda and lilli/Stacy but not a lot about the team as a whole and what kind of things the producers didn’t care to show ;)
Honestly Jojo shouldn’t have responded in regards to what Christy said about Giana. They never had a season together and the way Chloe was treated was horrible.
I agree!! Jojo wasn’t there when the TV show wasn’t going on, she doesn’t know how Gianna was before cameras role
@@Jonahsings3 exactly Christi knew Gianna since Chloe was like 2-3 and I’m sure Kelly (Christi’s bestfriend) has known Gianna most of Gianna’s life !
Absolutely and the one thing about Gianna that I absolutely hated was the fact that she would stand there and watch this teacher rip a kid apart and be perfectly OK with it and go along with it if you’re an adult and you choose not to stand up for a kid that’s being abused by another adult your part of the problem It’s like knowing that your best friend is in a toxic relationship and you have the power to guide her away from it and you choose not to you contributing to it
i see your point but also if your friend was being called a bad person and you honestly thought they were a good person, you would probably defend them too. should she have said something? no. would we all have probably done something similar or maybe. we don’t know
@@sienarramirez Like I said by choosing not to do anything about it you are part of the problem it’s like when you see someone getting bullied and you don’t say or do anything about it and just because someone is your friend that does not justify that they are a good person just because you know then being a phone also means being willing to call your friend out when they are being accused of being mean or hurtful towards someone and much more if you are aware of it and keep denying it even though it’s clearly happening
Jojo’s whole argument is “you weren’t abused because I wasn’t abused.”
Absolutely disgusting
Actually, it's kinda common for victims of abuse to deny that they or other victims experienced "abuse" because it is too painful for them to confront that reality. I'm wondering if maybe that was what was happening with JoJo?
seems to be what she’s doing now with another situation
Jojo has shared that Dance Moms was traumatic for her.
“They should be able to speak about it without being invalidated”
Someone tell this to Jojo
right? i love jojo but that tik tok was outta pocket
Jojo is so hypocritical when it comes to the girls she dances with. She will defend Abby to hell and back but won’t speak up against Abby saying rude things about the girls and moms.
To be fair Jojo is a kid (even though she just recently turned 18 i still call that a kid) and Abby should be a full grown ass adult. Jojo was out of pocket for that tiktok but she is allowed to defend whoever she wants that she knows personally. The mature way to do so comes with age that she doesn't have. Keep in mind that she has as much right to say her positive experience as the people with negative experiences do.
@@toriandtilly Yes but she has no right to speak over Christi who was just sharing her own experience.
@@autumnkallner81 and I said that
Jojo was so out of line trying to invalidate Christi’s and Chloes experience with Gianna 💀
when will Jojo stop invalidating other cast members' experiences on the show and realise that not everyone got respected?
Jojo wasn't respected by Abby either when she was on the show, what's your point.
@@olavdorosario6540
She still acts like it tho and she forgave abby.
@@olavdorosario6540 because she has been coming towards people who speak against Abby or Gia. The latest was when she went after Christi because she claimed Gia was not as nice as she looked like in the show. Funny enough this channel, on their other show where they read the production notes has has already depicted Gia's bad comments and reactions once or twice.
And while Jojo was not respected by Abby, you can't really compare to some of the things Chloe had to endure. Not to mention Abby admitting on camera that she mistreated a child (Chloe) because the producers wouldn't kick her out due to contract length. Jojo overlooking all of these things on purpose isn't very good for her own "I am super kind and cute" brand. I don't and I never will understand people who excuse Abby's behaviour.
This is why I can’t like her. The other girls had an awful time on the show. Why can’t she realize that everything can’t be positive all the time
@@TwoGerbils But even she was treated badly.
Christie saying that Gianna was not nice is “the most disgusting and ignorant thing” that Jojo has ever seen? Really? Girl… do you see the state of our country right now?
it bothers me that she tries to speak for someone else’s experience like girl not everyone has the same experiences with people like bro what?
lmao if you don’t mind me asking dem or republican? i won’t get mad i promise
The passion of repressed trauma. We know it well!
It really does bother me how JoJo only speaks about issues the only affect her you shouldn’t really speak on an issue just because it personally affects you and I 100% agree with your comment turn black lives matter she stayed quiet SOS Columbia stayed quiet Israel attacking Palestine she stayed quiet and now SOS Cuba she still staying quiet and don’t get me wrong it is absolutely important to speak on gay rights but there’s so many other minorities in groups that have it just as worse if not sometimes worse
When I watched the show, i didn’t watch it very well because I thought Kelly or Christi was jealous of Maddie but after watching this series, I have respect for them.
i love how u are owning up to ur mistakes and fixing them, it just shows how dedicated you are to this.
hi dom 😍
@@GiaNinasGalaxy holy turd how does my comment have so many likes
I’ve never seen anyone do this. This is really cool to educate people correctly!!
@@tararyan2889 YOOOOOOO
you’ve never seen a youtube video?
Yess!
Doctor Mike did it
@@squiddyft.insecurities3549 bro what
I love how Christi replied to JoJo's naive comment so well.
tbh i would have been rude back
@@silence-wn4qi sameeeeee
@@silence-wn4qi You know how people would love to find a reason to hate on Christi so I see why Christi handled it nicely. But I agree, she was much nicer than jojo deserved. Jojo deserved to get cussed out for defending literal child abusers and constantly attacking the victims for speaking out. Jojo should have kept her mouth shut and stayed in a child’s place. Nobody asked her. This is the result of bad parenting and being raised to do whatever you want with no discipline.
@@corimoon3360 👏👏👏👏
It takes a very strong person these days to admit to mistakes and correct themselves. Even the smallest and dumbest mistakes won't be owned up to.
I have a lot of respect for you. Thank you for educating all of us!
that really doesn't matter somethings in this video and most of her videos make no sense
@@kayyden268 just because you’re to dumb to understand doesn’t mean they make no sense/are wrong
How does Abby have the nerve to call anyone “dirt poor” before the show started, when she’s the one who had to bribe customers with free classes to get her utilities and cell phone turned back on? That’s probably what made kelly say “good luck paying your bills without my tuition” when Abby threw the chair at Paige. Also, Abby is/was the most money hungry person on the show, apart from maybe Melissa, so how she can call anyone else money hungry is so far behind me.
Exactly and she was using Maddie. Abby has the nerve to say Christi was using chloe for money.
Abby committed fraud so yeah. Money grabber
She was the dirt poor one! LOL
She was bankrupt before the show ever began.. talk about calling the pot kettle black.
I never understood this interview because competitive dance is expensive af to begin with. If they were dirt poor, they never would have been able to dance competitively
I'm kinda happy that the contracts saying that Abby had to get 10% of the kids pay were ripped up because I don't think that she deserved the money.
I mean that’s kind of what a manager does.
@@folklore_of_beth so?
@@corimoon3360 the fuck you mean “so?” why are you going to be mad at a manager for doing their job and taking their cut? 10% is low. Y’all are just mad bc it’s Abby
@@folklore_of_beth, the moms desolved their contacts with her.
@@folklore_of_beth As far as I understood on the show, Abby was only ever the manager of the Ziegler girls and Kendall. Holly, Christi, and Kelly purposefully didn't make Abby their kids' manager because they knew how she worked. So as far as Chloe, Nia, Brooke, and Paige are concerned, Abby is only their dance teacher and not their manager and therefore deserves nothing that she isn't already getting in dance fees from them.
jojo calling someone ignorant while being ignorant lmaoo
RIGHT LIKE GIRL
Ik
HAHA RIGHT?
IKR
Right like sis??? Read the room? Her dumbass was really defending Abby. Someone who doesn’t even LIKE her!! Lmao. The dumbest people really be out here defending their fake ass “friends”.
I still can’t believe that Jojo thinks that was the most ignorant thing ever said, like have you ever been outside?
I think Jojo didn't even watch the show before she joined, because what Christi said about Abby AND Gia ganging up on the kids Abby disliked is absolutely true.
@@fortheloveofcats2462 Jesselyn said jojo did watch the show but apparently she didn't watch it very well
Has she ever watched her mom or Abby on Dance Moms lol??
Fr like she literally hangs out with Abby how was that the most ignorant thing
saying that was “ignorant” is the most ignorant thing to say. she literally is buddy buddy with a racist **cough** abby **cough**
Am I the only who is stuck on the fact the producers wanted to do a dance about a cancer ward and a dance about obesity with an overweight dancer?! These producers are gonna be holding up the line on judgement day.
who's the overweight dancer?
@@lettersforchrist Looking at the production notes and an episode where Holly and Abby fight, it was likely the producers would've chosen Nia for the "overweight" role in the group. Although Abby made a LOT of comments about all the girls's appearances, she seemed to comment on Nia's the most.
that would of been god awful. that would of caused many fights, and potential bdd and eds. i surprised they didn’t pick that, it would of caused tons of drama. too awful
How about the Israel and Palestine one
And the "dancer getting beheaded" one?? Like, huh??
Abby, if the moms were dirt poor, how could they afford dances lessons and all of that. The first season they made it clear they pour over hundreds of dollars in dance. If they were dirt poor then they couldn't do that. Poor people don't have the privilege of pouring hundreds into a child dance team and travel. And she wanted the kids to be homeschooled so they could focus on dance. If they were dirt poor then that would be more hardship on them.
literally.. I could never afford dance as a child
see the thing is they were making middle class money but by the end of the month they were poor because they living pay check to pay check. Dance took up a lot of the money they made which is why they were always at the studio trying to get air time in so they could make a little bit of money to pay for the trips. Melissa and her ex husband filed for bankruptcy. Kelly's husband had a job that made enough money. Christi and her husband filed for bankruptcy and Jill came later when they started making money from the show
Idk why Jojo feels the need to call Christi out when she never even filmed a season with her but thats on getting needlessly involved in drama even though your brand is anti-bullying ✨❤️✨
She was so fake for that tbh. Not to mention she also tried to defend Abby’s abuse of the girls and moms and it’s so wrong.
Well, when the first thing she says upon joining the team was "do you think I can replace Chloe?" And you hear how her mom talked about Christy and Sarah, we really shouldn't be surprised.
Also lol at her defending Gianna's treatment of Chloe when Gianna didn't do a damn thing to defend HER when Abby was bullying HER (which she regularly cried about)
So basically, abuse and being a bystander are fine...as long as they're not hurting HER.
Exactly! So why do you have to call jojo out, HUH!?
@@robloxdancecompany9776 because jojo should be called out for that shit. Plus making a UA-cam comment isnt really calling someone out, jojo did much worse with discrediting abuse on a platform of millions. You have Roblox in your name so your obviously a child and your brain isnt fully formed so you wont fully get it. Your just a jojo stan.
@@robloxdancecompany9776 she’s friends with a abuser and a racist now u may shut up
Looking at some of those possible dance ideas I am so happy they didn't do most of them. They literally seem so exploitive towards certain people and topics just for the sake of views
Exactly!!!
Especially the one where it said to have an “overweight dancer”?? That episode would’ve been ripped off the queue as fast as FAN-tastic!
@@Annathesurfer watch season 1 ep 3 of audc they have a similar group dance
@@Ryan_914 oh god, watching now
@@Annathesurfer yea they did Brianna dirty
I don't believe Abby one bit when she said that "sHe inVitEd cHloE tO tHe mAsteRcLassEs." She literally excluded her from every opportunity in season 4 (girl party, freaks like me, abby's studio rescue) so why in the hell would she invite her to her masterclasses. Very conflicting don't ya think? AND she blatantly lied about when she made fun of Chloe's eye saying in an online interview 'don't believe everything you read' when Christi, Chloe, Cathy and Joanne Morales have confirmed that Abby really did in fact insult Chloe's eye.
i wonder is she saw that clip that was floating around a few years back where the scene when she actually said it isn't edited and you actually hear and see her say it 🤔
Also the fact that Abby had intentionally went out of her way to make Christi and Chloe’s life a living hell during season 4!
she was really disrespectful towards choloe and the rest of the girls other than Maddie she would constantly tear them down I wish I could Reach through the TV and Rip her head off you could see it in them kids faces the constant abuse they Endured was jus disgusting them girls deserve there credit they all worked there butts off for years...
@@berrisfueller6221 yup it's crazy what she did she even said it out her own mouth she didn't want choloe to win and she won all the time let that sank in 🤨🤔 she did sabotage choloe when she beat Maddie
@@Dontresssmith3757yuppp Francisco got fired because he got on an interview and confirmed that Abby went to the judges to get Maddie and Chloe’s scores switched when they competed the same solo.
Note: Just because you hear Abby's version of something after hearing someone else's, it doesn't mean her version is truthful or correct. She has an agenda to make everyone else look bad. She can't accept any blame for the bad parts and wants all the credit for the good.
Thank you! I’ve noticed that crop up a lot in these videos. Abby is not a trustworthy source at all. Proof doesn’t come from he said she said, especially where Abby is involved.
@@jonasluv945 Exactly! Abby shouldn't always get the last word, and she LOVES spinning the story to favor herself. She shouldn't even be allowed to discuss the Hylands or Lukasiaks in her public appearances, even without using names.
thank you!!
I don't even know what or who to believe anymore. I listen the mom's podcast and Christi's podcast and I also watch Abby's youtube videos and they're all saying different things even the old members.
Agreed. I watched every single video on her UA-cam because I thought the producers were the sole villains until I saw dance moms uncovered and learned that she is just as evil.
mackzboss: because there was a lot more to dance moms…
me: THAN THE PRODUCERS CARED TO SHOW
The notes literally say “something offensive.” These girls were children were still dancing and it’s a bit concerning they wanted them to do an offensive dance
Jojo was wrong for antagonizing Christ. Gianna was inconsistent in how she treated people. If Jojo had a great experience that’s great, it gives her no right to gaslight Christi. Gianna, Christi and Chloe have a ten year past that Jojo will never understand, so she should keep her mouth shut. Jojo let Abby and Gianna disrespect her on TV for a year and let it go. She should not expect everyone else to react the way she did, as she never went through the trauma of the OGs.
Preach queen 💋💋
Fact queen
Completely agree, but please don't say that JoJo "let Abby and Gianna disrespect her". She was a kid and was in an uneven power dynamic between them. Victims shouldn't be blamed for their abuse just because they wouldn't stand up for themselves.
omg... the amount of exploitation and offensiveness they were deliberately planning in the production notes..
hey jordan!!!!
Ikr it’s gross
I know right.
The producers are so disgusting. Dancing about people dying? Cancer wards and the I/P conflict? Disgusting
As an add on: JoJo claiming that Christi saying “Gianna isn’t nice” is the most ignorant, disgusting thing she’s ever heard is so so so tone deaf and something that will never sit right with me
If done well, dances about dark topics like that can be incredible. IF they're done well. As in, not anything to do with producers who live for nothing more than shock value, and abby, who exists only on spite and the intent to embarrass children.
@@earl_gay Exactly. As a dancer and aspiring choreographer, I completely agree with you. But making those dances not tone-deaf is really hard. I personally think that whoever is choreographing should know/be with or be struggling with the issue. It not only makes it REAL but it helps stop any ignorances. Like the lesbian marriage dance. I hope if they did that they would have someone of the lgbtq community who is wlw there, because it IS a very touchy topic and as someone in the lgbtq community, I wouldn’t want to see a tone-deaf ignorant dance about my own rights. I hope this made sense 💀
You’re acting as if Where Have All the Children Gone, Suicide Hotline, Pretty Reckless, Waiting Room, etc don’t exist…
@spongebobs krusty krabs me too. As a Jew is would feel like we were being mocked and that it would just create more hate on both sides
I also hate brooke’s Anne Frank solo but maybe that’s a didcussion for another time
IMO I would've loved to see a dark cabaret number (when they were older) or a game of thrones dark contemporary group dance. Obvs not all of the listed ones are appropriate (see Israel/Palistine conflict) but those 2 could've been really cool. Also a dance about the Bubonic Plague would've been interesting to watch if performed well and appropriately.
Christie’s response to Jojo sounding off where it wasn’t her place was so good. She was so polite and explained her point excellently, not backing down while not attacking or belittling Jojo.
I love that you arent scared to do this! A lot of creators tend to not like admitting they are wrong until they are called out and then it becomes a big issue.
Your evidence about Christi suing the show, that debunks Abby accusing Christi of only being about the money, as , if Christi and Marc proceeded with suing them , with all the proof out there regarding the abuse Abby committed towards Chloe, they would have won and boy the show would have been out of pocket big time and most likely result in the cancellation of the show. So where is Abby's thank you to Christi and Marc for not pursuing in suing the show and knowing the show did wrong and were no longer to be sued, why did they make it challenging for Chloe to leave and start competitive dance with studio 19, such an act is imo not reflective of appreciation.
whixh is exactly why they dropped her contract they knew she would have gotten the whole thing shut down and everyone involved would have had charges. Abby's always saying they were ungrateful but whenever she needs to be grateful she tries to disappear like John Cena
i think the whole drama over the watermelon fight is like literally so over the top? like who actually cares if she was upset over not winning she was so young?
exactly she was 8, why are people acting like its uncommon for an eight year old to cry
Yeah. 8 year olds will act like that.
Ikr like she was so young
Agreed! Also, I never see anyone mentioning that the very point of the game is to be frustrating... Even if you were standard-level competitive, bumped your knee, underwater, and I think also the youngest one playing - yeah, you might cry
@@sugarmaddi I think Holly's problem was Melissa came at Nia basically trying to say she was wild and rough and that she was acting like a boy. I thought it came out in an offensive racist way because when i was little i was always told stop being so rough black girls need to stop acting like little boys by m family. I think that's why it became a whole issue with Christi and Holly because she was basically calling the rest of their children animals. And when i first watched the episode i was shocked that they let Melissa say that and didn't censor it
Wow, it’s so wise of you to recognise your own mistakes ! No many people are doing this ! I’m glad to support a channel held by someone who is honest ! 🙏🏻
I love this, because people are so quick to blame the producers, when Abby made many decisions and she has admitted it.
yes!
I mean, a lot of the time the producers were to blame. But Abby did do a great deal, yes.
OMG 30 mins you’re really spoiling us with great content
Yeeeee
It cracks me up that Jojo defends Abby tooth and nail while preaching kindness. Like come on, sister.
Jojo ready lives in a bubble if calling somebody mean is the most disgusting thing she's ever heard 😑😐
Remember her dance in a bubble😂
That phone call & attempted bribe to Audrey, the attempts to destroy Nia's singing career - how can anyone defend Abby after that or blame her horrible actions on production? How many times do you think she's called people and tried to destroy opportunities for Nia? for Kendall? for Chloe?
Christi confirmed at a fan q&a that if Chloe was in the freaks like me video then none of the other girls would've been allowed in the video. There's one case of her sabotaging Chloe. There's no doubt that there's more but that one springs to my mind.
I think JoJo has a bit of a habit of trying to get involved and dispute OG's when they're trying to speak of their experiences. First Brooke and then Christi. JoJo may be on good terms with Abby these days (lord knows why), but she obviously was not there when the OG cast was and doesn't know their experiences. She should have just stayed out of it and focused on her own career.
Abby accusing everyone of being ungrateful when they literally had to distance themselves from her because she was abusive, and the show (while it did gain them fame and money) was a traumatising experience for them. Can she really not see that?
Yup... Abby was abused by the producers, of course, and that should be discussed as well, but Abby also abused and traumatized those kids, and she doesn't get to just say "oh, well."
OMG, they did not have the israel/palestine conflict listed down as possibility??? That is beyond fucked up! The production were the worst thing ever.
As one who lives there, it pisses me off. A lot of people are not very knowledgeable in the conflict and they want to create a dance about it?!
How would they possibly be able to create a dance about that? That doesn't seem like something that can be in a dance. But regardless it would have been 100% wrong and awful but I really don't know how that could have been portrayed in a dance
YES WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THIS. So disturbing, it would have been portrayed so horribly I don't even want to imagine it
@@lesterine77trust me, the producers and abby would’ve found a way. they put a car crash of teen drivers, suicide, rosa parks, the girls appearing to be nude,etc, i could go on. literally anything that makes you think “why is a 9 year old performing this” i don’t doubt they wouldn’t have tried.
@@patronuscharm5830girl I’m guessing ur from the Israeli side because only they would say such a thing when the world is realising that Palestine is going through a genocide 🫣
I love JoJo but she needs to stop getting into former cast member's business when they talk about not liking their experience/Abby/etc. She made a similar angry comment on Brooke's TikTok about Facebook recommending Abby as a friend. I'm happy for her that's she's forgiven Abby/very close with the crew and all that good stuff but that doesn't mean no one can say otherwise. Also I find it funny that JoJo is insisting she knows how Gianna's really like when I'm pretty sure Christi was around when Gianna was still dancing for Abby.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm curious how JoJo and Abby's relationship is gonna develop now she's an adult. Personally I always got the vibe that the reason why the Siwas have been generally positive about DM is because of Jess and wanting to look good for the press, so it's gonna be interesting to see if it changes now that JoJo doesn't necessarily need to listen to Jess all the time.
You produce such high quality content. These could legit be on television. Thank you so much for doing this to us for free!
It’s so cool how you are going back through your old videos and correcting your mistakes I don’t think I’ve ever seen another youtuber do this
50 episodes??? Wow that’s wild, I love this series so much! Time flies!
Thank you for making this video and correcting your mistakes! Love your channel
I think it’s obvious that Electricity was Abby’s ideas. The producers didn’t really meddle a lot until season 1.5-2. And Electricity is LA competition jazz style, it was pretty common those years to see people competing like that.
I love jojo but she had no right to refute Christi’s statements. Everyone has their own personal experiences and jojo wasn’t even there when Chloe was there so how is she supposed to know how chloe was really treated by gia?
She had no right to say it the way she did, but she was understandably upset, since Christi was stating her own experience as a universal fact, thus erasing everyone else's experiences, the thing she later accused Jojo of doing. Thankfully, Christi took it like the adult she is and answered in an amazing way.
@@nuriamateos6209 You sound dumb. Christi wasn’t stating her own experience as a universal fact. She was just stating a fact. JOJO was stating her experience as a universal fact thus erasing Christi’s experience. The thing she accused Christi of doing is literally what she did. Stop twisting it to make Christi look wrong when she wasn’t and you know it. When will jojo take it like the adult she’s about to be and stop getting in everyone’s business to defend a literal racist child abuser? Y’all can’t be this fucking stupid. Y’all wanna demonize Christi so damn bad.
wow you even included the brand new Abby and Cathy interview. You work FAST lol.
why does abby act like she needs more money and is entitled to sm money
Coz she wants to expand her business and her dance studios
Dirt poor? Yeah, I don't think she knows what dirt poor means....she might've struggled, but I doubt she was dirt poor.
it is so cool when a person's ego isn't too big to correct themselves! love you for this
I LOVE that you posted an update to clarify this way! So many times things seem different than they were depending upon editing, or he said/she said and it’s so healthy for everyone to see how we can be fallible in our judgments. More creators should learn from this! You have a subscriber for life! No matter what content you make ❤️
The producers wanted to use an overweight dancer as a gimmick? 🤦🏽♀️ Also what the hell kind of filter is Abby using at 8:47 in her conversation with Cathy? Lol.
I think they used that theme for season 1 ep 3 of audc because in the group dance that week the lead had to wear a fat suit while dancing
They still talk to each other?
When I saw christy cry and hold chole I saw the true pain and frustration she had from the way chole was treated. She looks so done and In so much pain
OF COURSE Gianna is not “nice”; she’s either a narcissist, or someone with a weak spine who will attach themselves to a narcissist in order to give themselves internal validation (probability the later). Abby would NEVER be able to work with an assistant who didn’t agree with everything she said, carry out her every whim, back up her lies and delusions, and back down to Abby whenever there was a conflict. That is the only person Abby (a narcissist) is not abusive to :: someone who they are in complete control of.
I love that you did this! We live in a world where people have a hard time admitting their mistakes. You are one of my top Dance Moms content creators.
I really respect you owning up to mistakes and elaborating on previous points. This is a really cool thing for you to do. Thank you for all your hard work into uncovering the truth about dance moms
“To keep yelling at the kids.” You don’t need to yell for the kids to be corrected tho…
At 25:03 from what I know, both maddie and Mackenzie knew that they’d be leaving the show at some point that season, they just didn’t know when. Maddie got told when they were leaving for definite but Mackenzie found out the exact date they were leaving at the same time everyone else found out the Ziegler’s would be leaving the show.
I love that you went back and corrected yourself, it really shows how devoted you are to making sure that you are truly sharing the entire story/all evidence accounted for.
I love how she realised they werent completely all accurate at first and is making us realise / make sure we know the full truth
Yay!! I’ve been waiting for another Uncovered and you didn’t disappoint! I love that you made this video, and I admire that you have corrected yourself so that there’s no misinformation being spread in the fandom
i feel like the show never had psychologists in the earlier seasons, I’m guessing they might’ve from the middle to late seasons. i also feel like we would’ve heard about it from the cast (especially on christy and the other moms’ podcasts).
They did NOT, sorry. Not in seasons 1-4 at least.
@@CucFan that’s what i’m thinking
The devil works hard but mackzboss works harder
Period
Lol why that comparison hahaha
I feel like Dance Moms in itself appealed to p3dos and creeps. The fact that the producers would exploit *CHILDREN* is criminal and I can't even re-watch my favorite routines without thinking about it.
How ??? The show was about dancing literally every gurl was watching it granted the show was traumatizing for them but come on
@@sharnagrayson9649 How?? Ummm because of the close up shots of the girls bottom halves?? A couple of the staff and people on the show have been outed as pedos??? What the show was about does not matter. You really don’t think Pedo’s watch shit like this??? Are you dumb?? Come on now.
Cathy’s bunny glasses were EVERYTHING!
to explain just how excited i got when i saw this in my recommended.... its impossible.
For the lesbian marriage dance I think that is The Prom a little so they kind of accomplished it
How sad that Melissa allowed Mackenzie to get scream at and yelled at so Abby can make Maddie a star and make sure she got the most opportunities than the other girls.
4:36 I am shocked
Lol “something with a cross: something offensive” the producers PLANNED numbers to be offensive. SMH and to think that of course Abby would get blamed for it
“An overweight dancer”? For “Child obesity”? How humiliating.
It's very sketchy that she sold some of the costumes online, intentional or not that's the type of thing a stalker of a child star would be interested in.
I'm sure that wasn't her intention, but knowing these kids are on TV, that's something she should have been conscious of.
But the girls also sold costumes, I just assumed she did it to either make money or make money & get rid of costumes she didn't need anymore?
I don’t think it’s that deep a lot of dance studios sell costumes
@@Jessica.Shawnte I don't think there's anything wrong with it if they weren't children on TV, but I think it's very naïve of her, at best, to sell them to strangers online considering the girls' fame.
Can we just acknowledge how JoJo literally invalidates anyone’s experience that was negative with Abby like JoJo we get it you had an amazing wonderful experience with Abby but guess what they were people were not literally traumatized and literally were deprived from something they love to do I’ll because of a dance teacher honestly at this point I really just think the JoJo stays in contact with Abby just because she will get cold out if she ditches Abby and will be kind of in the same position that the other girls are now because now they’re doing great wonderful without Abby and honestly without those girls there would be no show there would be no Abby Lee Miller like JoJo‘s TickTock where she said that gia had done so much for Chloe never in my life that I want to strangle someone so much By not and I will always stand by this if you are an adult that as well be capable of standing up to a child that is being abused by another adult and you choose not to your part of the problem frankly and let admit it unless it’s an issue that personally affects JoJo she does not care or with black life‘s matter she stayed quiet With the Israel he Palestinian conflict she stayed quiet literally anything that has to do with anyone else she stays silent about it unless it’s about gay rights which don’t get me wrong they’re absolutely important and absolutely valid but if you’re going to support one movement and not the other movement just because it doesn’t affect you then honestly you shouldn’t be calling yourself an advocate
The gag is Abby treated her like garbage until she got rich now all of a sudden she’s the favorite
@@sharnagrayson9649 Abby is a clout chaser at this point
About the producers "ripping up" Abby's 10% contract . . . Abby would have had a SIGNED LEGAL COPY of that contract no matter what the producers ripped up. Evidently there was never a contract giving Abby 10% of what the children made on the show. Abby SHOULD have had contracts with any of the performers who got work through ABBY's DIRECT EFFORTS. I don't think she did - possibly Kendall's video or Mackenzie's "Girl Party" if anything. More often we saw Abby INTERFERING with anyone's ability to get work, like their attempt to do a UA-cam video with a young man video "star". As for any of the performers getting work through their being seen first on the Dance Moms Show, that percent would have gone to the owners of the show or Lifetime TV. Abby probably thought she should have gotten a percentage of Maddie's income because SIA saw Maddie on the show. In many instances that would have been the case, but the Dance Moms Show was never expected to be anything when it started, so NOBODY thought about making big money from it down the line when they expected to do only 4 episodes. They all probably had basic contracts and they were all stuck with those terms.
Yes that's exactly what I was thinking! You can't just rip up a document and call it a day, there are probably many copies and records.
There are laws that prohibit the same person from being an artist's manager and agent. If she acts as one, she can't act as the other. She never seemed to understand that.
so excited to watch this omggg yay, i’m in lockdown in brisbane so this upload made my night thankyou 💗💗
How is the COVID situation in Australia?
@@blushchuu A bunch of the states are in lockdown except Tasmania, Australian Capital Territory, and South Australia I think, but there’s also restrictions about travelling from state to state, and there’s been some new cases, so hopefully things get better!
Wow so Gianna also favored Maddie just like Abby.
Please do how Abby treated the select team
I knew the “tooties” incident took place in the Miami week! I’ve been trying to investigate when that took place for a while and knew that Abby and Holly went at it quite badly that week 😬
There has been a not-rare pic out for years showing the girls with their new iPads wearing the big orange bows from that dance - I don't know how anyone never figured out when it was.
@@CucFan it was kind of hard to figure out because Kendall was also given an iPad, and because she wasn’t there when this happened, I couldn’t tell when they gave them the iPads
@@CucFan I don’t know why you have to be a bitch about it.
Abby shouldn't have gotten 10% of everything the kids made on the show. Outside maybe but Christi is the one that sent in the studios audition tape not Abby. Christi is the reason they even knew who Abby was.
Wait, really? Where did you hear that info about Christi sending in an audition tape for the studio because that sounds really interesting
@@EF-kk3vh Christi talked about it in a podcast or a youtube video or something... not sure which one
That thing at the end about the psychologists on set is very interesting. Awhile ago, there was the person on reddit claiming that they were a psychologist on set for the show. They were revealing a lot of info about things that happened and info about Christi. No one believed them and someone sent an Insta dm to Christi asking if there was ever a psychologist on set. She replied that there wasn’t.
Here :www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/dancemoms/comments/ezh07x/lmao_i_asked_christi_if_dance_moms_had_an_on_set/
Wonder if Stacy ever needed a psychologist. Ya know cause she is one herself
i remember this lol… while it’s possible there could’ve been some sort of mental health professional on set, it definitely wasn’t the person claiming to be on reddit
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When Abby says we’re rich and don’t need you any more she is talking about Maddie and Melissa because she favored Melissa and Maddie over the other moms and girls.
Except Maddie has literally nothing to do with that and was a child. Abby CHOSE to favor Maddie, and still abused (manipulated, groomed, isolated, etc.) and used her, just in a different way to the other girls. She forced her into a co-dependent relationship, and used a give and take method of approval, followed by berating, to allow her to form a deep attachment. Maddie quite literally didn’t have the capacity to “use” her, since Abby was the grown woman, and Maddie was thrown on tv, forced to be around her 24/7, when she hadn’t been previously. All she wanted to do was dance, and suddenly, everything was turned upside down once they realized they were stuck in reality tv contracts. Not to mention, Melissa had been trying to leave the show since S3, before Maddie had outside success. Abby’s literally just narcissistic and someone that enjoys twisting a narrative for sympathy.
50 episodes?! No way! Can’t wait to see hopefully 50 more!!
I heard on the internet that “Lux” was homeless, I don’t know where I heard it.
I actually love your videos! I look forward to them every two weeks and even watch repeats in the mean time 😂😂
i think it's really cool you went back and corrected yourself!
personallly I don’t like Christi that much, but has Jojo never said “a person isn’t nice”? I may be wrong, but the only thing Christi has ever said something about Jojo publicly was when she was invalidating Brooke. And Jojo definitely deserved that.
Can u do a video about Abby’s problem with the girls and moms (duo). Or the unfair advantages.
hey! she did a vid vv similar to this! it’s called “why the girls don’t speak to abby” or something like that
We love an accountable queen 👑
This is such an honorable video to make, thank you!
You correcting yourself just shows how carring you are! I think some of you theories are stronger now but others fall apart but it's still interesting to know more. As we say in France "il n'y a que les cons qui ne changent pas d'avis " ( only dumb don't change their minds)😄
Melissa fake being a friends with Abby for 5-6 years, makes me have MAJOR trust issues
Two wrongs don't make a right😂🤣
@@abirmohamed8343 Did Abby do terrible things? Yes but that not the point, Melissa LITERALLY faked a 5-6 year long friendship, just to make her daughter famous......
those two snakes deserve each other. i don’t like abby, but imagine that.
Interesting that you have never had fake friends. I wonder what state you're in. That's a state I need to visit.
@@realamericannegro977 I live in Canada, also Abby and Melissa’s friendship was a whole other level, Melissa sat with Abby’s sick mom, her last words were to Melissa, Melissa will make her husband take Abby out to restaurants, Both her and her husband helped Abby out financially, there’s a lot more she has done for Abby, and to realize that she was faking it this whole time is just sad.
I can never stop rewatching this series
I respect how transparent this ep is
Thank you for Clarifying certain things that you brought up in your videos but it is still just crazy how things went down
Jojo not everyone’s experience is the same 🙄
4:04 It was so sad how they treated Chloe when Abby and Cathy did the dance off it’s the same dance from Kenzie’s music video and she just standing there
Huge respect for you for this episode. 👏
thank you for doing this! I really appreciate how you care to keep us all informed on the truth
4:51 actually they did a dance about cancer ward, "living with the ribbon"
This is the only dance moms account I follow. It’s so mature and different than other DM accounts. Plus it explains SO MUCH!! Thank you for actually doing so much work
4:34 a Palestine/Israel dance!!!!! Whoever suggested that needs serious help istg
It reminded me of that dance where each of them were different religions. It was season 5 ep 3 or 2 but I forgot the name of the routine
Honestly, with just some footage in the show i think it proves that gia isnt all that nice. She and abby sat there a few times making fun of the dancers who were kids?
Hi I’m obsessed with your videos!!! I watch and rewatch them all the time!! Could you do a video on the mini team? I feel like we know a lot about the drama with Ellie/Yolanda and lilli/Stacy but not a lot about the team as a whole and what kind of things the producers didn’t care to show ;)
Happy 50!!!! You’re so awesome to go back and correct yourself. Congrats to you!