“When you love something, you don’t turn a blind eye when it struggles. You smack it in the mouth and say ‘Get your SHIT together!’” Is probably the best quote I’ve heard in a long time
This is my favorite long-form rebuttal of "Sonic was never good." I'm an open minded person. I respect people's opinions for the most part. However anyone trying to convince me Sonic 3 & Knuckles was bad is wrong.
Pssst, 16 bit games or everything before the Xbox or Xbox 360 don't exist doesn't exist to a lot of gamers including these so called "hardcore gamers". Until Halo came along gaming had barely developed beyond Pac Man and Pong. To me Sonic was on its best during the 16 bit days and the recent Sonic Mania which reminded me why I enjoyed my Sega 16 bit days so much.
@@boonanaman7 Bruh the GBA sonics were straight gold including Sonic Battle... it goes: 1: Sonic 06 2. Sonic Boom 3. Sonic 4: Episode 1 4. Sonic 3D Blast 5. Sonic Shuffle
Shock Tactic I rewrote this episode probably five times, re recorded it another three. I spent a loooot of time trying to get this right for my first time out. I'm glad to see it did the job! Thanks for the kind words!
For reals. It was at the time, but the one that's going today? SO MUCH BETTER. It didn't have Archie Comics' uptight rules and shit, it's doing what the same writer from the Archie series mostly wants without stepping on anyone's toes, and it's doing so well, it's getting spin-off series. So something good as come from cutting off ties from Archie, at least. Archie got its panties in a bunch after the Ken Penders fiasco.
Still practically the same comic team. Miss some of that other cast, but it feels like the Archie book with Flynn running the ship. Statement hasnt aged, but as far as Im concered, Sonic is still killin it in comics.
While I agree that having a difference of opinion is a good thing, look at my comment history for proof on that... The IGN thing was not okay, because it wasn't just an opinion but they added a bunch of stereotypes about the fan base as well onto that. Not to mention the fact that they just said it, and that was it. There was no baseline for discussion or anything. Just, Sonic was never good, End. Which as an organization that's whole purpose is supposedly to review video games also puts the entire company in a bad light, because they can't even do that correctly. They thought, "oh all the content creators are hating on these games right now, so we can too." which once again, for a company that reviews video games is very toxic behavior no matter the franchise in question.
What irks me most is the hypocrisy regarding their branding. IGN gave tons of Sonic games great reviews, Pocket Adventure getting a 10/10 from them. Sonic Mania got a great score. Game Scoop IS IGN so the Game Scoop host's opinions are those of IGN at a base level. It's inconsistent and makes you question if IGN is a reliable website for game reviews. Doesn't matter if each employee has a different opinion, you go to IGN reviews for IGN opinions and they can't seem to decide if the series is bad or good.
I agree, normally one shouldn't immediately bash a difference of opinion... but oh boy. They really deserved to have the laser focused hatred from the sonic community at that point. (even if they only deserved it for a short while)
"What could possibly go wrong?" *lights click* *drags cigar* And that was the moment I had realized... Everything was going wrong. Oh yeah and Jontron references are fucking retarded.
@@GameApologist my first Sonic game was knuckles chaotix that's how I got introduced in the Sonic series I didn't even know Sonic untill Sonic classic collection on the DS :()
It’s a hard act to walk the line between trying not to be bias and admitting you actually like something, and you nailed it. Thanks for this and other really great videos when I REALLY needed them. Also, thanks for being a non-toxic positive voice for our community.
I always felt the “finger wag” in the opening was supposed to be a “whoop-de-doo” gesture. Like he’s sarcastically saying, “ohhhh lookit me, I’m going on an adventure!”
I look at it as if he's saying "Oh no you didn't, girl". Well, something like that. Robotnik's been naughty and now he's going to be made to sit in a corner in a circular room.
Hm, interesting video! I was a bit worried during the first half, thinking you'd make the same video everyone else does, but you pulled it out in the end, and it was well made! You gave some intelligent, constructive criticisms to the series, and although I do not agree with all of them, you made some good points! The video was well edited, well written, and over-all, well done. I hope to see more from you in the future!
I'm a big Sonic fan, and as a joke, the only consistent thing is inconsistency, but, we should keep giving them chances, so, they'll eventually get it right
Game Alchemist.Agreed.I always see people saying that Sonic Team has gone bad and even dropping the series,but I know,it's going to get better.So I'm a fan for life.Are you?
@@hypergoon1152 Same with me tbh the thing is developers always swap so it can really come out either way but this whole decade has more had good games then bad if you count mania and same thing there fans will become devs and make something great and even if it takes a long time I'll still will be a fan and doing level design for that hedgehog not sure if I'll be working for sonic team but who knows
@@hypergoon1152 I think I really got into it when I started reading the Archie comics, around 11-16? It's been a while, but I also had Sonic colors at the time, and that was a lot of fun, and especially with playing mania
Eh, I don't mind them. That clip aside, the dude who kicked off that conversation (Brian Altano) has made me laugh more often than a lot of today's professional comedians. Still, I understand the frustrations people have with the site as a whole.
This year all their reviews have been the same, everything has been either a 7 or one point below or two points, but generally everything has just been nothing but 7s. It’s like their favorite number or something.
You know what? For a first video, this was insanely entertaining. I just about lost it at the rant part in particular. I was a bit afraid starting with this video since you know how a content producer's earliest works aren't as polished, but I had a mad fun time watching this one. Took a bit long to get to the gameplay portion, but definitely worth it overall. Earned yourself another sub, my dude! I know who I'll be binge-watching in T-Minus three minutes.
Anybody who claims Sonic was never good when Sonic 3 & Knuckles (and to a lesser extent, Sonic 1 and Sonic 2) exists has objectively the wrong opinion.
Sonic 2, 3K, and Mania were great. Sonic 1 and CD were fun but they had their flaws. I'm just not a fan of anything from the 3D era, but that's just my preference. If I would have grown up with the Dreamcast and not the Genesis, I'd probably feel differently.
HOW DID YOU KNOW M- oh wait right. Well, as a self aware sonic fan myself I do anticipate what else needs to be said. I also can't wait for what different games there are to talk about, in a few more years I bet you could talk about mass effect 3 again. One thing that i'd like to point out you said at the end of the video something about being a grown adult talking about a blue hedgehog, like, I'm not going to watch some kid talk about it, their comments on the situation would be WAY less composed.
I appreciate that. Mass Effect 3 is absolutely on my radar. That will have to be down the road simply because I never beat 2, let alone 3. Still, I can't imagine it deserves all the hate that comes its way from what I've seen. Also appreciate hearing from a fellow Sonic fan. Part of the reason why I wanted to start with this was to have actual conversations with people like you, people like us. None of my friends really care a whole lot about gaming, let alone the hedgehog, so it's nice to get this out and have people respond and chat it up with me.
Yeah, the me3 ending has been analyzed to death so anything else now would seem late to the party. Enough about that though. But yeah, in terms of sonic, my opinion on its continued success is the character design and i'm glad you brought it up. There is a reason there are so many fan characters, so many canon characters! I feel like sonic boom is dropping the ball on the design on some of the background characters, but the main cast still have some of the charm. Like, when was the last time you saw a mario fan character or a disney cartoon character. Also I'm still trying to figure out what sort of games would go on your show.... well, other than the ones you mentioned. I do not like tomb raider, lol.
It's just going to depend on whether or not there's something to say, really. Sometimes it's going to be utterly terrible games, stuff I don't like myself, and in those cases I'm going to do my best to convey why there's a fanbase at all. In other cases it'll be games I really do love, but within a fanbase it could be considered a weak link. Like I said at the top of this video, it's pretty subjective, and I'm going to take advantage of that. Hopefully, if nothing else, it will mean for fun videos, no matter how bad a game actually is. As for Sonic, yeah I'm with you on Boom. I'm going to reserve my thoughts for a future video (and because as much as I take the piss out of Rise of Lyric, I have yet to actually PLAY the damn thing.) ..and yeah, Mass Effect 3 or No Man's Sky, it's all so recent that I feel that plenty of us are just sick to death of even being in that discussion. So I agree with you there, a little time away could do good for all of us.
I laugh when people say Sonic is "Hold right to win" that is always classic to me. I once believed that silliness until I actually sat and honestly played it for myself.
And on the other hand, everyone seems to be ok with Mario's "Fly over the stage to win". You really have to force yourself to play suboptimally by not picking up feathers/capes so that you actually get to play the game.
Nick, I want to thank you for bringing me back into Sonic. I was going through a rough time in late 2020 . I wasn’t into sonic during my high school years because I thought playing sonic was childish at the time .I was embarrassed to show anyone my love for this series. I got into the series through sonic x. The first sonic games I played were Sonic and the secret rings , unleashed , generations and colors for the 3ds . When boom came out I got out of the series since it wasn’t what I grew up with. One day, during my freshman year of college in 2020 I watched your video. I was interested of what sonic was to people who lived in the early nineties. At the end of the video I asked my self “ what is a sonic game and what makes it so good. “I made it my mission to play every sonic game . Hell, I bought a Genesis and Dreamcast to play the original sonic games. It felt weird playing those original sonic games on any other console that was not Sega. After that I started to collect the games which were hard to find. Then playing I fell in love again with the series and found out this series was awesome. I started to express to people my love for this series. It was awesome getting Hyper Sonic in 3&k and remembering why I love shadow the hedgehog my favorite sonic character in SA2 . The beautiful music from unleashed and the Pixar like opening. This series is important not just from one era but from all eras that have made an impact on this community. Sonic was always there for me even in my darkest moments. I don’t want that this series to die or get worse. I want this series to amaze me again not just in 2d but 3D too. I may have disagreements with you or other people of what should be done in this community. I want this series to have that magic again like it did when I was a kid . I have a long way to go on this journey playing the rest of the games . However,I want you to show me why we love this character in the first place . Not just looking for the good and bad but, the memories and dreams we cherish for these games . Thanks to you , not only was this series good. It was something that told me to be myself and go against the odds to find my passion in life. Thank you Toot Toot Sonic Warriors
These days (2020), Sega is trying to branch out again. Look at how much Love Yakuza gets NOW. It wasn't that big a deal back in 2005 when it came out, but now, there's people who LOVE it. And Yakuza, is a product of Love. How it captures the Japanese Culture (That, is Japanese Culture, right?) and is still wacky fun but also can be REAL Serious time when it needs to be. The world that Yakuza gives you, is small and tightly packed. And I love that. The game is FULL of love and detail. That is what makes that game, work so well. Sega needs to try and figure out, "Why did this game work SO well? Why is Game X so good?" For me, Sonic is about, RUN Fast, Do Platforming FAST, GO EVEN FASTER.
I work with your sister, and when she mentioned that you were about to release a gaming youtube channel, I told her I was going to check it out. I had some mild reservations (because you never quite know what you're going to get with a new show), but I don't have those anymore. This is really profession work, especially for a first effort. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your work as it trickles out of the next long while. You seem to have matched your love of the subject and medium with a healthy dose of perspective and a whole lot of research. Can't wait to see more!
i must say, i commend you for staying so consistent nearly 7 years on. that's pretty rare for creators. the audio and editing quality has improved, but the style never changed. you still stick to strictly what interests you instead of giving in to chasing trends. but most of all, while i'm sure your writing ability has also improved, what inspired this comment is the spirit hasn't changed. you've become a bit more casual, but that's a plus my point is: if you re-did this video, word-for-word, with the current quality, i don't think anyone would bat an eye. that's pretty fucking cool, man. thanks for all the content 🙌🏼
dude your a guinieiuious. keep that style love it. The editing is awesome, not to much of your drawn character, but just enough so we don't look at a bland picture too long. I would love to see more of you. I love your name Game Apologist. i myself can pretty much defend all games. or most games at least . I myself is a sonic fan, and love pretty much all of them, well, they all have there place. (my fav is unleashed.) i hope you keep at it and don't give up. 9/10 huge fan would watch again
i can also see the huge inspiration of sequelitis. And that is a great thing, even though he doesn't like sonic. well i think he doesn't. do he like him or. he is a mixed bag i think
I finally got a chance to watch the video. and I have to say; its WAAAY better than I thought it would've been. as others said, the title was a big throw off, it makes it seem like you are going to be like one of those hipsters, or game grumps fanatics who say sonic is trash it was never good just because others say it, without bothering to have played it themselves. so, great work, hope to see you making more great videos like this.
Your Sonic 3 video led me here, and low and Behold in the comments is TGC who I just just finished watching one of his vids when I clicked over on yours! Anyway, great stuff. Subscribed.
The rant had me rolling!! Great video Nick! I really appreciate that you see all the sides of things but still have your own opinions! Hoping to seeing more man!
Rewatching the first episode of the Game Apologist (and getting uncomfortable with the reminders of Game scoop, Hearing about Complaints about Shadow being an OC, (because Original character jokes are so "hilarious") The Werehog, 06, RoL,Sonic and Shadow having weapons, and just taking potshots at other fans and the fandom even if all of it was just to bring up examples in context to ask the question about Sonic being good) and it intrigues me and makes me look at the Classic games through different lights
The round features contrasting with the sharp edges of his quills makes for a timeless design. I think this is the same reason Goku is visually iconic.
Great first video. This is the level of quality I usually see from a youtuber after a year or two of making videos, with the only exceptions I can think of being Alpharad and Scott the Woz. I'd say that's an achievement, especially since they still had those years of practice before starting their channels.
3:16 - In hindsight looking back the fact that both Sonic ballons hit lamp posts tells me that Sonic was just trying to hit the checkpoint of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade Zone level. Seriously, how fucking insane is it that of all the things they could hit and deflate on they BOTH hit lamp posts which just so happen to be the checkpoint marker in sonic games? Talk about life being stranger than fiction.
This was the video that got my subscription, I have watched alot of the video essays from this channel in the past two days, and this was honestly my favorite. I am an unashamed Sonic fan purely for fun gameplay and a little bit of the lore, having played most of the spinoffs and all of the main series games to completion(besides Sonic forces which is on my gaming backlog) while also having read the comics for a time and watched the TV show. The original was my first Video game growing up and I still like going back to it this day, even though Mania is my favorite. I hate this trend of saying everything that was once good is bad once you get some distance from it just to be edgy. Honestly it's the most 90's thing I've ever seen.
To get rid of that afterimage blurring on motion you'll want to right click on your video clips, look down near the bottom of the menu for resampling, and disable resampling. It's on by default in Vegas, which is a huge pain. I think it's meant to make live action footage look smoother or something but for video games (especially with the amount of motion of a 3D Sonic game) it just makes things worse.
HOLY CRAP THANK YOU. ...also thanks for taking the time to throw some tips my way. That's going to be EXTREMELY useful. I've come across your channel before, I'm ashamed to admit I didn't give it the time it deserves since I don't normally watch Let's Plays. That said? I put on your Sonic Unleashed playlist a little while ago and I've been smiling the whole time. I'm enjoying the hell out of you and your friends commentary. I will definitely rectify my past mistakes and watch the hell out of your stuff!
Heh, that may not end well judging from the context of your inclusion of Arin Hanson in your video, unless you also enjoyed his general reaction to the series.
Well, my opinions for some of the games are...hmm. let's just say I don't intend on always looking for positives in games I personally enjoy. ...but more on point, I did not include anybody in the video I do not like or not follow. Sequelitis is a HUGE inspiration for me. I don't always agree with Mr. Raptor, but he makes me laugh and he seems like a swell guy. It'll take a lot more for me to dislike someone than their opinions on video games. And that certainly applies to your stuff as well. Wouldn't be any fun if we all had the same opinions on everything.
@@Koko-pm4qq nah hes right. Why do think we got a bunch of garbage New Super Mario games this past decade. But when Mario gets ambitious, he damn delivers
8:00-9:35 made me laugh so hard... Not sure why, but it was geat stuff, and made me feel a lot better. Haha. Anyway... Sonic was good. Not always (inconsistent), but damn it, the series can find its footing again and reach greatness once more, there just... Needs to be effort put into it again.
I rewatch this series quite often just to unwind after a crap day. As a Sonic fan myself I find your videos extremely well made and very entertaining. I look forward to seeing where you go
I just found out about you earlier today when your S3&K video got recommended to me during lunch time, and I've basically marathoned nearly all your sonic videos out of order. I still have a bunch of videos left to sit through, but I'm saving that for later since watching content from the same person for a couple hours gets exhausting. I very much appreciate this series and can't wait for more!
The *actual video* starts at 00:00. Comments like this always seem so shitty to me, like damn, if you don't have enough time to watch the whole video and respect the time that the creator put into making it, why even bother in the first place?
I think I have found a kindred gaming spirit. Sonic 3 & Knuckles was my first introduction to Sonic, and worked my way backwards (Sonic CD being my favorite title), but the main point that Sonic is important cannot be stated enough. The music, the attitude, then there's Sega that, for better or worse, has always gone and done what no one else was doing: portable consoles? Game Gear and Nomad (Even had an experimental touch screen mobile console in the 90s). Online gaming? Dreamcast, and even the Genesis in Japan. Heck, the Master System technically had 3D glasses and the Genesis had motion controls (The Activator). And now they're investing a bit into mobile gaming before many others even thought about it or took it seriously, and the virtual Sega Arcade on Steam is mod friendly and even welcomes those creative outlets. And let's not forget the wonderful social media snark and self-aware humor that is charming and lighthearted. Mario wouldn't do that. You won't see Master Chief making fun of his shortcomings from an official page, not like Sonic. If anything, the social media side makes Sonic more human in a way, more relatable. Their influence is beyond the market and is why I'm a fan. It's not all about risk/reward, but for the sheer concept of trying something because the ability is there. Think Sonic sucks because of Unleashed or 2006? How about look at every CoD whose core gameplay campaign can be summed up in a DLC? Others may sell better and have more consistent track records, but if you were to ask a group of random people to name 20 video game icons from all generations, I'd bet Sonic will be in most, if not all of them, and that matters. #Blue4Life
Now that I rewatched this episode I find it unbelievable that how a terrible reaction from critiques led to the start of the best sonictuber and one of the best UA-camrs of all time 👍
Thank god a game reviewer understands everyone has opinions and everything is subjective in life. Thank you just earned a sub for being one of the only real ppl on UA-cam 🙏
It’s not often I actually click on a UA-cam recommendation, but I’m glad I did. I’m astounded that this is your first video because it’s VERY well done. I’m well aware you’ve got more, and I’ll now be watching them as a subscriber. Great job!
My list of favorite Sonic 1 levels, NOT the same as which ones I think are the best. 1. Green Hill Zone The boring choice, but the correct one. This is the only level in Sonic 1 that feels like Sonic as he was meant to be. It's still fun to play even after beating it to death. 2. Spring Yard Zone This level is just fun for me. Just bouncing around and rolling down those steep hills is more fun than other levels for me. 3. Starlight Zone This level isn't really all that special, but I like the aesthetic. The music is great and I like the look of the zone. 4. Scrap Brain Zone If it was just Act 1 & 2, this would be #2. It's a good challenge and the music and level design are great. It doesn't really feel cheap and it allows for forward progression without slogging you down too much, at least compared to most levels. But that third act… just awful. It's Labyrinth Zone with better music, a worse color palette and an even more painfully difficult level design. More on that later. 5. Marble Zone This stage is hard to rank, I'll admit. It's not that bad, but it feels like it just tears down all of what Green Hill set up. The level is far more like other platformers by slowing Sonic way down for almost the entire thing. It has a cool boss, at least. 6. Labyrinth Zone Then there's this piece of trash. It was experimental, to say the least, but it failed miserably. Sonic isn't himself in water, or while going uphill, and there are just so many slow, uphill, underwater battles in this stage. It's just plain frustrating, and you don't even get a proper boss. You're just fighting the level itself. The music doesn't do it any favors, either. It has a calm tone while you're slogging forward, dodging cheap enemies and spikes coming at you from all directions. It makes it all the more jarring when that haunting drowning music starts playing. As far as what I think is actually best: Green Hill, Scrap Brain Act 1&2, Spring Yard, Marble or Starlight, Labyrinth, Scrap Brain Act 3. I know it's kind of cheating splitting up Scrap Brain, but Act 3 is just Labyrinth Act 4, in both design and appeal.
Holy crap bro! I just discovered your channel a couple nights ago with your JP games video, can’t believe I didn’t find you sooner. You are AWESOME! Btw I’m a HUGE Sonic fan too.
Confirming the original Tomb Raider was unplayable, and I am a child of that era. I beat Ecco the Friggin' Dolphin but god help you if you want to steer Lara through a door.
I really hope your channel grows. You have a good balance. You like Sonic but are definitely willing to point out it’s flaws. And your just entertaining with your editing and art
omfg the RANT he goes off on at 8:00 is amazing but espECIALLY THE BITS ABOUT SUPER MARIO WORLD YES THANK YOU I'VE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THINGS AND GETTING BERATED BY NINTENDO NERDS FOR YEARS UGH FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT AWESOME PERFECT LIKED SUBSCRIBED BEST VIDEO EVER
@@S.T.E.E.Z.Y I have to disagree. I feel that Mario World goes on for too long, is too slow and has only a couple standout levels for the many it has, whilst Sonic was faster, had more recognisable environments (in fact, I recognize individual structures within levels) and is short, but sweet, providing a taster of what's to come. I respect your opinion though.
I hate when people say "one ring offers as much protectionas 100." Technically, yes. But if you lose 100 rings all at once, it is much easier to re-collect some. With one ring, you are much less likely to survive multiple hits close together. For example, most boss encounters in the original 3 & Knuckles don't have rings. The only ones you have are the ones you bring. Its POSSIBLE to juggle losing and quickly catching one ring over and over again, but its much easier, less stressful, and honestly more fun to not have to worry about it. TL;DR - Having more than one ring is advantageous to only having one. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Hey, Nick. Here's a bunch of thanks. Thanks for existing. Thanks for being someone I can watch when I wanna laugh my ass off, or when I'm looking for something deep, or really whenever I'm in the mood to watch anything. Thanks for being a Sonic fan. Thanks for being one of those Sonic fans that loves Sonic 3 the most. Y'know, the correct ones :P Thanks for helping me realize why I actually prefer Sonic 3 over Sonic Mania (though Mania is still a close second). Thanks for helping me find a new love for the US soundtrack of Sonic CD. Thanks for reminding me why I love the Sonic series so much and for introducing me to ideas I had never really considered before. Thanks for all of your other videos. I've enjoyed every single video of yours that I have watched so far, and I very much look forward to watching even more. In short, thanks for being you. Keep being amazing.
Why the Shadow hate though? Good vid tho. I think Sonic should return to his Adventure and Retro formula. Sonic has been turned into a joke because Sonic team doesn't treat him seriously anymore. Sonic is a edgier version of Mario and should be treated as such. Modern should be a mix between Dreamcast and Boost gameplay and story while classic sonic has attitude and a also great story. You should go to the SA3 facebook page they are know what they are talking about.
Don't take the rant portion too seriously. More of a greatest hits of all the frustrations everyone lobs at each other. Shadow is a really divisive character all on his own, and I really want to give him the time he deserves once I get to Sonic Adventure 2 and his own game. Thank you for the kind words and taking the time out of your day to watch and comment on the video! I'll be sure to check out the Adventure 3 guys.
Game Apologist Thanks for the feedback. Also I have noticed a comedy change in the series ever since colors. Really Sonic colors lead to boom. As for Shadow's character since SA2,Shadow the hedgehog and 06, his character has turned into a unlikable asshole. Everyone's character since colors has been misrepresented or off. In Shadow's game they aleast made him a likable character. Ever since free riders and colors the series has been terrible.
@@shadowgamera1124 Actually Shadow has barely been around since 06 until Forces happened. Boom, Crossovers, & Mobile Phone games aren't canon, & Lancelot is Shadow's Arthurian Realm counterpart rather than the actual Shadow. That leaves only Free Riders (which was exclusive to a peripheral for Xbox 360), Colors DS, & Sonic Generations. Also he was only a minor character in those last 2 games I mentioned thanks to the "Just Sonic" mentality of the series at the time. I personally thought it was Sonic who turned into an unlikable ass starting in Sonic Colors. Sonic Forces did a decent job with Shadow, even though it was never explained what he was doing for 6 months & had most of his impact on the story stolen by Classic Sonic's needless inclusion in the game. Still the reason most characters have been misrepresented since Colors is because that was the game Pontac & Graff started being the series lead writers for. Sega is the only company dumb enough to hire lead writers who had no knowledge of the series they were being hired to write for & to keep them around for an entire decade despite constantly proving that they suck as writers. The fact is 1/3rd of the Sonic Fanbase could do that duo's job better than them easily if given the chance. Let's also not forget the questionable VA changes made for the 2010s decade like Roger Craig Smith's unfitting voice for Sonic replacing Jason Griffith who was a natural to the role. Minnie Mouse replacing the wonderful Lisa Ortiz as Amy's VA & the questionable decision for Shadow's VA. At least in Forces Amy & Shadow's VAs actually managed to adjust to fit their roles, unfortunately the same can't be said for Roger who has become a defining trait of Sonic's Worst Decade alongside Pontac & Graff's awful writing.
Just discovered your content last week and I must say, it's awesome! From one Sonic fan to another, keep 'em coming! ...oh, and- *clicks the sub button*
“When you love something, you don’t turn a blind eye when it struggles. You smack it in the mouth and say ‘Get your SHIT together!’” Is probably the best quote I’ve heard in a long time
Game Apologist will be an awesome father.
9:35 "Alright, so I'm a bit of a hypocrite. Sonic fan, remember?" Secretly the best joke in the script.
Wait, that was a joke?
@@mikewinans5091 Yes it was .
The title had me a bit worried, but this is FAN-FREAKIN'-TASTIC. Keep at it!
Thanks, guy! Absolutely honored you've graced me with your presence. I'm enjoying the hell out of your videos!
The Geek Critique wow Ethan great moves keep it up
@@polybent9748 epic gamer reference
@@GameApologist The Greek Apologist? Could fuse em?
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... Is someone Greek? ...I'm from Iowa.
This is my favorite long-form rebuttal of "Sonic was never good."
I'm an open minded person. I respect people's opinions for the most part. However anyone trying to convince me Sonic 3 & Knuckles was bad is wrong.
Pssst, 16 bit games or everything before the Xbox or Xbox 360 don't exist doesn't exist to a lot of gamers including these so called "hardcore gamers".
Until Halo came along gaming had barely developed beyond Pac Man and Pong.
To me Sonic was on its best during the 16 bit days and the recent Sonic Mania which reminded me why I enjoyed my Sega 16 bit days so much.
F to all those people who say the first 3 sonic games are bad
@@thesonicfanboi How can you possibly say Sonic 3 is bad. You can even make it BETTER by adding SAK.
@@boonanaman7 There are legit only 5 sonic games I would call objectively bad... and thats out 66 games with the Blue Blur in it.
@@boonanaman7 Bruh the GBA sonics were straight gold including Sonic Battle... it goes:
1: Sonic 06
2. Sonic Boom
3. Sonic 4: Episode 1
4. Sonic 3D Blast
5. Sonic Shuffle
You both perfectly and inoffensively described the Sonic Fanbase. I'm impressed.
Shock Tactic I rewrote this episode probably five times, re recorded it another three. I spent a loooot of time trying to get this right for my first time out. I'm glad to see it did the job! Thanks for the kind words!
And the effort shows. I was honestly surprised that this was your first video. Looks like you've already begun to hit your stride, Keep it up!
@@GameApologist and to this day you still describe the Sonic fanbase Without repeating yourself, god damn
That rant at 8:00 it's just the best thing i've seen in a while!
I keep watching that part everytime I check this channel, never gets old!! XD
Bubbly baby bullshit
My sides ascended
Lmaooo n-no don't even start with me, classic soundtrack my ass. Omg
Ive watched that rant like 54 times already. Never gets Old!
PAPER BA-
I've always said, if people were as unfairly critical towards other game franchises as people are to the Sonic series, then nothing would be good!
“A movie’s in the works, God help us all.”
God: Okay.
*Movie was good*
good lookin' out, God
I thought the movie was bad
Yup
Thanks god
slamino The duck
Agreed
I listened to this review while playing a Super Mario game because I'm a bad boy and I don't play the rules. Enjoyed this btw, subbed.
Oh you rebel.
*_V I B E C H E C K_*
There wasn’t a vibe to begin with
“Had a comic that’s still running today”
O h n o
That hurt hearing that.
For reals. It was at the time, but the one that's going today? SO MUCH BETTER. It didn't have Archie Comics' uptight rules and shit, it's doing what the same writer from the Archie series mostly wants without stepping on anyone's toes, and it's doing so well, it's getting spin-off series. So something good as come from cutting off ties from Archie, at least. Archie got its panties in a bunch after the Ken Penders fiasco.
@@lunayoshi The Archie comics had WAY too many insert fan characters. And wtf was that creepy "future" comic? Yikes.
@@KuromiLaBella There really was, and the first 25-years-later was a huge waste of time and page space.
Still practically the same comic team. Miss some of that other cast, but it feels like the Archie book with Flynn running the ship. Statement hasnt aged, but as far as Im concered, Sonic is still killin it in comics.
“Hello there I’m Nick.” It was at this moment that history would forever be changed...
He arrived in the nick of time
While I agree that having a difference of opinion is a good thing, look at my comment history for proof on that... The IGN thing was not okay, because it wasn't just an opinion but they added a bunch of stereotypes about the fan base as well onto that.
Not to mention the fact that they just said it, and that was it. There was no baseline for discussion or anything. Just, Sonic was never good, End. Which as an organization that's whole purpose is supposedly to review video games also puts the entire company in a bad light, because they can't even do that correctly. They thought, "oh all the content creators are hating on these games right now, so we can too." which once again, for a company that reviews video games is very toxic behavior no matter the franchise in question.
Also, corporate game critics are corrupt, trying to capitalize on video game buyers.
What irks me most is the hypocrisy regarding their branding. IGN gave tons of Sonic games great reviews, Pocket Adventure getting a 10/10 from them. Sonic Mania got a great score. Game Scoop IS IGN so the Game Scoop host's opinions are those of IGN at a base level. It's inconsistent and makes you question if IGN is a reliable website for game reviews. Doesn't matter if each employee has a different opinion, you go to IGN reviews for IGN opinions and they can't seem to decide if the series is bad or good.
You summed it up pretty well
I agree, normally one shouldn't immediately bash a difference of opinion... but oh boy. They really deserved to have the laser focused hatred from the sonic community at that point. (even if they only deserved it for a short while)
IGN: Sonic is everything wrong with the 90s.
Me: You spelled "Bubsy" wrong.
Nero Redwolf loud obnoxious character?
Puns out the wazzoo?
Nonsensical game designs?
Cringy catchphrase?
Yup. That’s the 90s at its worst.
Nobody cares about Bubsy
bubsy and boogerman ahh good times
"What could possibly go wrong?"
*lights click*
*drags cigar*
And that was the moment I had realized... Everything was going wrong.
Oh yeah and Jontron references are fucking retarded.
nice
8:00 was the best montage I've ever seen
8:00 Arin Hanson's Sequelitis mode unlocked.
...we need more of it.
This cannot be your FIRST video, you sound like an already well known channel, great work.
OH, YOU!
@@GameApologist my first Sonic game was knuckles chaotix that's how I got introduced in the Sonic series I didn't even know Sonic untill Sonic classic collection on the DS :()
"'Am I the only one who likes Sonic 06' yes, yes you are" **Plays Sonic 06 soundtrack in the background**
I like playing sonic 06
Everyone loves the soundtrack. Not so much the actual game.
*he must never know...*
If it wasn't for the soundtrack I never would have honestly liked it
I like playing it as a case study in how much can go wrong in the development of a game.
It’s a hard act to walk the line between trying not to be bias and admitting you actually like something, and you nailed it. Thanks for this and other really great videos when I REALLY needed them. Also, thanks for being a non-toxic positive voice for our community.
8:59 I probably laughed harder at this timing more than I should have.
I always felt the “finger wag” in the opening was supposed to be a “whoop-de-doo” gesture. Like he’s sarcastically saying, “ohhhh lookit me, I’m going on an adventure!”
Nah, Sonic is just searching for John Connor...
I look at it as if he's saying "Oh no you didn't, girl". Well, something like that. Robotnik's been naughty and now he's going to be made to sit in a corner in a circular room.
I saw it as "You have some nerve picking up this game! Now you're here, let's get on with it!".
Hm, interesting video! I was a bit worried during the first half, thinking you'd make the same video everyone else does, but you pulled it out in the end, and it was well made! You gave some intelligent, constructive criticisms to the series, and although I do not agree with all of them, you made some good points! The video was well edited, well written, and over-all, well done. I hope to see more from you in the future!
You absolutely will, thanks for the feedback!
Of course, don't mention it!
Anyone else appreciate the smack sounds edited in for the Mario segment?
I'm a big Sonic fan, and as a joke, the only consistent thing is inconsistency, but, we should keep giving them chances, so, they'll eventually get it right
Game Alchemist.Agreed.I always see people saying that Sonic Team has gone bad and even dropping the series,but I know,it's going to get better.So I'm a fan for life.Are you?
@@hypergoon1152 Same with me tbh the thing is developers always swap so it can really come out either way but this whole decade has more had good games then bad if you count mania and same thing there fans will become devs and make something great and even if it takes a long time I'll still will be a fan and doing level design for that hedgehog not sure if I'll be working for sonic team but who knows
@@hypergoon1152 I think I really got into it when I started reading the Archie comics, around 11-16? It's been a while, but I also had Sonic colors at the time, and that was a lot of fun, and especially with playing mania
this feels like therapy session.
(Stands up) Hello, my name is Stuart, and I'm a Sonic fan(sits down)
Hello, Stuart
Hello Stuart, I’m Ross and I’m a Sonic fan as well.
I am chris, and i also happen to be a sonic fan.
I'm a sonc cd fan
Hello Stuart I'm tahaj and I'm a Sonic fan
Let's be honest: IGN was never good.
Eh, I don't mind them. That clip aside, the dude who kicked off that conversation (Brian Altano) has made me laugh more often than a lot of today's professional comedians. Still, I understand the frustrations people have with the site as a whole.
This year all their reviews have been the same, everything has been either a 7 or one point below or two points, but generally everything has just been nothing but 7s. It’s like their favorite number or something.
You know what? For a first video, this was insanely entertaining. I just about lost it at the rant part in particular. I was a bit afraid starting with this video since you know how a content producer's earliest works aren't as polished, but I had a mad fun time watching this one. Took a bit long to get to the gameplay portion, but definitely worth it overall.
Earned yourself another sub, my dude! I know who I'll be binge-watching in T-Minus three minutes.
Dang, I feel like your channel should be required viewing for all moderately interested in the blue blur. Fantastic stuff.
DR. eggman or robotnik... adults have fights about this.
me: you're damn right we do
Omg this narrator has a super awesome voice!
Anybody who claims Sonic was never good when Sonic 3 & Knuckles (and to a lesser extent, Sonic 1 and Sonic 2) exists has objectively the wrong opinion.
I think sonic 2 to an almost equal extent but i can see what you mean
I'm am adventure fan myself
& Knuckles.
And Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic 2, 3K, and Mania were great. Sonic 1 and CD were fun but they had their flaws. I'm just not a fan of anything from the 3D era, but that's just my preference. If I would have grown up with the Dreamcast and not the Genesis, I'd probably feel differently.
The first 16 minutes of this video may have been the best critique of us Sega/Sonic fans I've ever watched.
I smell potential. Slubscurbed.
And I smell a William Koskinen.
And it smells GREAT.
HOW DID YOU KNOW M- oh wait right.
Well, as a self aware sonic fan myself I do anticipate what else needs to be said. I also can't wait for what different games there are to talk about, in a few more years I bet you could talk about mass effect 3 again. One thing that i'd like to point out you said at the end of the video something about being a grown adult talking about a blue hedgehog, like, I'm not going to watch some kid talk about it, their comments on the situation would be WAY less composed.
I appreciate that. Mass Effect 3 is absolutely on my radar. That will have to be down the road simply because I never beat 2, let alone 3. Still, I can't imagine it deserves all the hate that comes its way from what I've seen.
Also appreciate hearing from a fellow Sonic fan. Part of the reason why I wanted to start with this was to have actual conversations with people like you, people like us. None of my friends really care a whole lot about gaming, let alone the hedgehog, so it's nice to get this out and have people respond and chat it up with me.
Yeah, the me3 ending has been analyzed to death so anything else now would seem late to the party. Enough about that though. But yeah, in terms of sonic, my opinion on its continued success is the character design and i'm glad you brought it up. There is a reason there are so many fan characters, so many canon characters! I feel like sonic boom is dropping the ball on the design on some of the background characters, but the main cast still have some of the charm. Like, when was the last time you saw a mario fan character or a disney cartoon character.
Also I'm still trying to figure out what sort of games would go on your show.... well, other than the ones you mentioned. I do not like tomb raider, lol.
It's just going to depend on whether or not there's something to say, really.
Sometimes it's going to be utterly terrible games, stuff I don't like myself, and in those cases I'm going to do my best to convey why there's a fanbase at all.
In other cases it'll be games I really do love, but within a fanbase it could be considered a weak link.
Like I said at the top of this video, it's pretty subjective, and I'm going to take advantage of that. Hopefully, if nothing else, it will mean for fun videos, no matter how bad a game actually is.
As for Sonic, yeah I'm with you on Boom. I'm going to reserve my thoughts for a future video (and because as much as I take the piss out of Rise of Lyric, I have yet to actually PLAY the damn thing.)
..and yeah, Mass Effect 3 or No Man's Sky, it's all so recent that I feel that plenty of us are just sick to death of even being in that discussion. So I agree with you there, a little time away could do good for all of us.
8:00 is so relatable because i literally wrote an essay like this to my friends cause they kept telling me that mario was way better lmao
idk why but i really love your channel avatar, its really expressive and actually match your voice (for me at least)
Bro I've watched this entire series, I absolutely love it, can't wait for more if you do more
I laugh when people say Sonic is "Hold right to win" that is always classic to me. I once believed that silliness until I actually sat and honestly played it for myself.
And on the other hand, everyone seems to be ok with Mario's "Fly over the stage to win". You really have to force yourself to play suboptimally by not picking up feathers/capes so that you actually get to play the game.
Nick, I want to thank you for bringing me back into Sonic. I was going through a rough time in late 2020 . I wasn’t into sonic during my high school years because I thought playing sonic was childish at the time .I was embarrassed to show anyone my love for this series. I got into the series through sonic x. The first sonic games I played were Sonic and the secret rings , unleashed , generations and colors for the 3ds . When boom came out I got out of the series since it wasn’t what I grew up with.
One day, during my freshman year of college in 2020 I watched your video. I was interested of what sonic was to people who lived in the early nineties. At the end of the video I asked my self “ what is a sonic game and what makes it so good. “I made it my mission to play every sonic game . Hell, I bought a Genesis and Dreamcast to play the original sonic games. It felt weird playing those original sonic games on any other console that was not Sega. After that I started to collect the games which were hard to find.
Then playing I fell in love again with the series and found out this series was awesome. I started to express to people my love for this series. It was awesome getting Hyper Sonic in 3&k and remembering why I love shadow the hedgehog my favorite sonic character in SA2 . The beautiful music from unleashed and the Pixar like opening.
This series is important not just from one era but from all eras that have made an impact on this community. Sonic was always there for me even in my darkest moments. I don’t want that this series to die or get worse. I want this series to amaze me again not just in 2d but 3D too. I may have disagreements with you or other people of what should be done in this community. I want this series to have that magic again like it did when I was a kid .
I have a long way to go on this journey playing the rest of the games . However,I want you to show me why we love this character in the first place . Not just looking for the good and bad but, the memories and dreams we cherish for these games .
Thanks to you , not only was this series good. It was something that told me to be myself and go against the odds to find my passion in life. Thank you
Toot Toot Sonic Warriors
These days (2020), Sega is trying to branch out again. Look at how much Love Yakuza gets NOW. It wasn't that big a deal back in 2005 when it came out, but now, there's people who LOVE it. And Yakuza, is a product of Love. How it captures the Japanese Culture (That, is Japanese Culture, right?) and is still wacky fun but also can be REAL Serious time when it needs to be. The world that Yakuza gives you, is small and tightly packed. And I love that. The game is FULL of love and detail. That is what makes that game, work so well.
Sega needs to try and figure out, "Why did this game work SO well? Why is Game X so good?"
For me, Sonic is about, RUN Fast, Do Platforming FAST, GO EVEN FASTER.
"Mario made dinosaurs lame!"
Meanwhile in Oddysey...
...I'm gonna pretend I didn't read that
I work with your sister, and when she mentioned that you were about to release a gaming youtube channel, I told her I was going to check it out. I had some mild reservations (because you never quite know what you're going to get with a new show), but I don't have those anymore. This is really profession work, especially for a first effort. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your work as it trickles out of the next long while. You seem to have matched your love of the subject and medium with a healthy dose of perspective and a whole lot of research. Can't wait to see more!
Thank you so much for your feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
i must say, i commend you for staying so consistent nearly 7 years on. that's pretty rare for creators. the audio and editing quality has improved, but the style never changed. you still stick to strictly what interests you instead of giving in to chasing trends. but most of all, while i'm sure your writing ability has also improved, what inspired this comment is the spirit hasn't changed. you've become a bit more casual, but that's a plus
my point is: if you re-did this video, word-for-word, with the current quality, i don't think anyone would bat an eye. that's pretty fucking cool, man. thanks for all the content 🙌🏼
Always means a lot kenn, thank you for the years of support 🙏
Just discovered your channel the other day. Love your sonic videos so far. You will go far man. Keep it up.
dude your a guinieiuious. keep that style love it. The editing is awesome, not to much of your drawn character, but just enough so we don't look at a bland picture too long. I would love to see more of you. I love your name Game Apologist. i myself can pretty much defend all games. or most games at least .
I myself is a sonic fan, and love pretty much all of them, well, they all have there place. (my fav is unleashed.)
i hope you keep at it and don't give up.
9/10
huge fan would watch again
i can also see the huge inspiration of sequelitis. And that is a great thing, even though he doesn't like sonic. well i think he doesn't. do he like him or. he is a mixed bag i think
Thank you so much for the kind words! Hopefully I'll get a new episode up here pretty soon.
@Casswury if I was, I'd have more subscribers.
I finally got a chance to watch the video. and I have to say; its WAAAY better than I thought it would've been. as others said, the title was a big throw off, it makes it seem like you are going to be like one of those hipsters, or game grumps fanatics who say sonic is trash it was never good just because others say it, without bothering to have played it themselves. so, great work, hope to see you making more great videos like this.
33:37 OH NONONO... Past him so unaware
F
It's great to find well thought oppinions like this to have a bit of contrast. And the video is greatly done. So insta-subscribed
Thank you!
Your Sonic 3 video led me here, and low and Behold in the comments is TGC who I just just finished watching one of his vids when I clicked over on yours!
Anyway, great stuff. Subscribed.
Really enjoyed this. Well done with the editing.
Thank you!
The whole angry rant had me dying😂 love your content been on a binge on a lot of your videos
I thoroughly enjoyed this video! Can't wait to hear your thoughts about Sonic Adventure in particular. You have my sub!
Thanks! It's a long ways ahead, but I am looking forward for an excuse to roll through that game again too.
The rant had me rolling!! Great video Nick! I really appreciate that you see all the sides of things but still have your own opinions! Hoping to seeing more man!
Rewatching the first episode of the Game Apologist (and getting uncomfortable with the reminders of Game scoop, Hearing about Complaints about Shadow being an OC, (because Original character jokes are so "hilarious") The Werehog, 06, RoL,Sonic and Shadow having weapons, and just taking potshots at other fans and the fandom even if all of it was just to bring up examples in context to ask the question about Sonic being good) and it intrigues me and makes me look at the Classic games through different lights
The round features contrasting with the sharp edges of his quills makes for a timeless design. I think this is the same reason Goku is visually iconic.
8:45 THANK YOU!!!!
Dude, I really like what you're doing and I love classic sonic games. Wishing you the best and I hope your channel keeps growing. You've earned it.
Great first video. This is the level of quality I usually see from a youtuber after a year or two of making videos, with the only exceptions I can think of being Alpharad and Scott the Woz. I'd say that's an achievement, especially since they still had those years of practice before starting their channels.
3:16 - In hindsight looking back the fact that both Sonic ballons hit lamp posts tells me that Sonic was just trying to hit the checkpoint of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade Zone level. Seriously, how fucking insane is it that of all the things they could hit and deflate on they BOTH hit lamp posts which just so happen to be the checkpoint marker in sonic games? Talk about life being stranger than fiction.
Great video! I hope to see your channel become very popular in the future. Subbed :)
Thank you so much for the kind words, I won't let that subscription down!
This was the video that got my subscription, I have watched alot of the video essays from this channel in the past two days, and this was honestly my favorite. I am an unashamed Sonic fan purely for fun gameplay and a little bit of the lore, having played most of the spinoffs and all of the main series games to completion(besides Sonic forces which is on my gaming backlog) while also having read the comics for a time and watched the TV show. The original was my first Video game growing up and I still like going back to it this day, even though Mania is my favorite. I hate this trend of saying everything that was once good is bad once you get some distance from it just to be edgy. Honestly it's the most 90's thing I've ever seen.
Am I right in guessing you use Sony Vegas?
Yep!
To get rid of that afterimage blurring on motion you'll want to right click on your video clips, look down near the bottom of the menu for resampling, and disable resampling. It's on by default in Vegas, which is a huge pain. I think it's meant to make live action footage look smoother or something but for video games (especially with the amount of motion of a 3D Sonic game) it just makes things worse.
HOLY CRAP THANK YOU. ...also thanks for taking the time to throw some tips my way. That's going to be EXTREMELY useful.
I've come across your channel before, I'm ashamed to admit I didn't give it the time it deserves since I don't normally watch Let's Plays.
That said? I put on your Sonic Unleashed playlist a little while ago and I've been smiling the whole time. I'm enjoying the hell out of you and your friends commentary. I will definitely rectify my past mistakes and watch the hell out of your stuff!
Heh, that may not end well judging from the context of your inclusion of Arin Hanson in your video, unless you also enjoyed his general reaction to the series.
Well, my opinions for some of the games are...hmm. let's just say I don't intend on always looking for positives in games I personally enjoy.
...but more on point, I did not include anybody in the video I do not like or not follow. Sequelitis is a HUGE inspiration for me. I don't always agree with Mr. Raptor, but he makes me laugh and he seems like a swell guy. It'll take a lot more for me to dislike someone than their opinions on video games.
And that certainly applies to your stuff as well. Wouldn't be any fun if we all had the same opinions on everything.
I never thought I would find a video that perfectly showed my love for sonic. Thank you so much. I love your videos.
When he said Mario plays it safe and is kind of boring
Me: how could you say something so controversial yet so brave”
I agree tbh
Is he wrong though.
@@Koko-pm4qq nah hes right. Why do think we got a bunch of garbage New Super Mario games this past decade. But when Mario gets ambitious, he damn delivers
Thank you for covering this in such detail and expressing the thoughts of so many 90's boi Sonic fans like myself.
8:00-9:35 made me laugh so hard... Not sure why, but it was geat stuff, and made me feel a lot better. Haha.
Anyway... Sonic was good. Not always (inconsistent), but damn it, the series can find its footing again and reach greatness once more, there just... Needs to be effort put into it again.
I rewatch this series quite often just to unwind after a crap day. As a Sonic fan myself I find your videos extremely well made and very entertaining. I look forward to seeing where you go
Dude I do the same with other videos, I'm glad to know I can provide that kind of comfort to others.
These games are still fun, and that's all that matters.
Back here after Origins, still such a relevant and awesome video Nick ❤️
"There's even a movie coming out!"
*You've made a great mistake.*
I just found out about you earlier today when your S3&K video got recommended to me during lunch time, and I've basically marathoned nearly all your sonic videos out of order. I still have a bunch of videos left to sit through, but I'm saving that for later since watching content from the same person for a couple hours gets exhausting. I very much appreciate this series and can't wait for more!
Oh! Oh, I felt that Stockholm Syndrome comment in my soul.
Oh my god. Your rant about Mario had me in stitches. Marvelous.
16:49 is when the *actual video starts*
*lmao the hatred im getting* I do enjoy this video, don't get me wrong. Being hella descriptive is gr8 :3
Thx
And miss the hot takes at 8:00? No thank you.
InaneBlatherskite 16:49 is when the review starts not when the video starts
The *actual video* starts at 00:00. Comments like this always seem so shitty to me, like damn, if you don't have enough time to watch the whole video and respect the time that the creator put into making it, why even bother in the first place?
I know its hard to believe but actually it's 0:00 crazy I know
I think I have found a kindred gaming spirit. Sonic 3 & Knuckles was my first introduction to Sonic, and worked my way backwards (Sonic CD being my favorite title), but the main point that Sonic is important cannot be stated enough. The music, the attitude, then there's Sega that, for better or worse, has always gone and done what no one else was doing: portable consoles? Game Gear and Nomad (Even had an experimental touch screen mobile console in the 90s). Online gaming? Dreamcast, and even the Genesis in Japan. Heck, the Master System technically had 3D glasses and the Genesis had motion controls (The Activator). And now they're investing a bit into mobile gaming before many others even thought about it or took it seriously, and the virtual Sega Arcade on Steam is mod friendly and even welcomes those creative outlets. And let's not forget the wonderful social media snark and self-aware humor that is charming and lighthearted. Mario wouldn't do that. You won't see Master Chief making fun of his shortcomings from an official page, not like Sonic. If anything, the social media side makes Sonic more human in a way, more relatable.
Their influence is beyond the market and is why I'm a fan. It's not all about risk/reward, but for the sheer concept of trying something because the ability is there. Think Sonic sucks because of Unleashed or 2006? How about look at every CoD whose core gameplay campaign can be summed up in a DLC? Others may sell better and have more consistent track records, but if you were to ask a group of random people to name 20 video game icons from all generations, I'd bet Sonic will be in most, if not all of them, and that matters. #Blue4Life
"As a Sonic fan, there's nothing more that I hate than Sonic fans"
Yup, that's the quote that sums up my current existence.
Just found this channel. It's great! That rant had me rolling! Subscribed!
"I taught myself what to do to get this out the door." Damn dude, I know you like Sonic but you don't have to take ALL your inspiration from them.
I keep coming back to re-watch these videos dude. Big fan of your work! 😎
"And whatever that 2017 game is, it looks like they're bringing back elements that worked for Sonic Generations"
...Yes but also no-
Now that I rewatched this episode I find it unbelievable that how a terrible reaction from critiques led to the start of the best sonictuber and one of the best UA-camrs of all time 👍
Thank god a game reviewer understands everyone has opinions and everything is subjective in life. Thank you just earned a sub for being one of the only real ppl on UA-cam 🙏
It’s not often I actually click on a UA-cam recommendation, but I’m glad I did. I’m astounded that this is your first video because it’s VERY well done. I’m well aware you’ve got more, and I’ll now be watching them as a subscriber. Great job!
My list of favorite Sonic 1 levels, NOT the same as which ones I think are the best.
1. Green Hill Zone
The boring choice, but the correct one. This is the only level in Sonic 1 that feels like Sonic as he was meant to be. It's still fun to play even after beating it to death.
2. Spring Yard Zone
This level is just fun for me. Just bouncing around and rolling down those steep hills is more fun than other levels for me.
3. Starlight Zone
This level isn't really all that special, but I like the aesthetic. The music is great and I like the look of the zone.
4. Scrap Brain Zone
If it was just Act 1 & 2, this would be #2. It's a good challenge and the music and level design are great. It doesn't really feel cheap and it allows for forward progression without slogging you down too much, at least compared to most levels. But that third act… just awful. It's Labyrinth Zone with better music, a worse color palette and an even more painfully difficult level design. More on that later.
5. Marble Zone
This stage is hard to rank, I'll admit. It's not that bad, but it feels like it just tears down all of what Green Hill set up. The level is far more like other platformers by slowing Sonic way down for almost the entire thing. It has a cool boss, at least.
6. Labyrinth Zone
Then there's this piece of trash. It was experimental, to say the least, but it failed miserably. Sonic isn't himself in water, or while going uphill, and there are just so many slow, uphill, underwater battles in this stage. It's just plain frustrating, and you don't even get a proper boss. You're just fighting the level itself. The music doesn't do it any favors, either. It has a calm tone while you're slogging forward, dodging cheap enemies and spikes coming at you from all directions. It makes it all the more jarring when that haunting drowning music starts playing.
As far as what I think is actually best:
Green Hill, Scrap Brain Act 1&2, Spring Yard, Marble or Starlight, Labyrinth, Scrap Brain Act 3. I know it's kind of cheating splitting up Scrap Brain, but Act 3 is just Labyrinth Act 4, in both design and appeal.
Holy crap bro!
I just discovered your channel a couple nights ago with your JP games video, can’t believe I didn’t find you sooner.
You are AWESOME!
Btw I’m a HUGE Sonic fan too.
Confirming the original Tomb Raider was unplayable, and I am a child of that era.
I beat Ecco the Friggin' Dolphin but god help you if you want to steer Lara through a door.
I really hope your channel grows. You have a good balance. You like Sonic but are definitely willing to point out it’s flaws. And your just entertaining with your editing and art
omfg the RANT he goes off on at 8:00 is amazing but espECIALLY THE BITS ABOUT SUPER MARIO WORLD YES THANK YOU I'VE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THINGS AND GETTING BERATED BY NINTENDO NERDS FOR YEARS UGH FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT AWESOME PERFECT LIKED SUBSCRIBED BEST VIDEO EVER
Mario World is a great game though, Sonic 1 has 1 fun zone and the rest is boring and slow
@@S.T.E.E.Z.Y I have to disagree.
I feel that Mario World goes on for too long, is too slow and has only a couple standout levels for the many it has, whilst Sonic was faster, had more recognisable environments (in fact, I recognize individual structures within levels) and is short, but sweet, providing a taster of what's to come.
I respect your opinion though.
Nicely done, man! This was a lot of fun to watch. Excited to see what's next!
Thanks, Thom!
Sonic is good, but 06 was the only one that followed the whole "was never good" thing
This isnt my first video watching of you but damn what a intro..SUBBED!
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now you've gone and done it Game Scoop...
Great start! Analytical writing, funny jokes, and I like your avatar. Keep it up! Glad I got in on the ground floor!
This video was amazing!!! it was so well done!!!!!
Thank you!
I hate when people say "one ring offers as much protectionas 100." Technically, yes. But if you lose 100 rings all at once, it is much easier to re-collect some. With one ring, you are much less likely to survive multiple hits close together. For example, most boss encounters in the original 3 & Knuckles don't have rings. The only ones you have are the ones you bring. Its POSSIBLE to juggle losing and quickly catching one ring over and over again, but its much easier, less stressful, and honestly more fun to not have to worry about it.
TL;DR - Having more than one ring is advantageous to only having one. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
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“We’ll hate ya if ya hate, we’ll hate ya if ya like Sonic, we’ll hate ya if ya Sonic” 😂 True
That image of you smacking Sonic just around the 33 minute mark is a golden piece of art.
a Sonic 1 fan who doesn’t like Starlight? really? _i_ like Starlight Zone!
I like Starlight so much I wish it was in Sonic Mania.
Me: 16 minutes in
Game Apolgist: for the first episode we will cover Sonic The Hedgehog!
Me: wait we haven’t started
This video is great!
btw, I subbed.
Thanks!
Hey, Nick. Here's a bunch of thanks.
Thanks for existing. Thanks for being someone I can watch when I wanna laugh my ass off, or when I'm looking for something deep, or really whenever I'm in the mood to watch anything. Thanks for being a Sonic fan. Thanks for being one of those Sonic fans that loves Sonic 3 the most. Y'know, the correct ones :P Thanks for helping me realize why I actually prefer Sonic 3 over Sonic Mania (though Mania is still a close second). Thanks for helping me find a new love for the US soundtrack of Sonic CD. Thanks for reminding me why I love the Sonic series so much and for introducing me to ideas I had never really considered before. Thanks for all of your other videos. I've enjoyed every single video of yours that I have watched so far, and I very much look forward to watching even more.
In short, thanks for being you. Keep being amazing.
Why the Shadow hate though? Good vid tho. I think Sonic should return to his Adventure and Retro formula. Sonic has been turned into a joke because Sonic team doesn't treat him seriously anymore. Sonic is a edgier version of Mario and should be treated as such. Modern should be a mix between Dreamcast and Boost gameplay and story while classic sonic has attitude and a also great story. You should go to the SA3 facebook page they are know what they are talking about.
Don't take the rant portion too seriously. More of a greatest hits of all the frustrations everyone lobs at each other. Shadow is a really divisive character all on his own, and I really want to give him the time he deserves once I get to Sonic Adventure 2 and his own game.
Thank you for the kind words and taking the time out of your day to watch and comment on the video! I'll be sure to check out the Adventure 3 guys.
Game Apologist Thanks for the feedback. Also I have noticed a comedy change in the series ever since colors. Really Sonic colors lead to boom. As for Shadow's character since SA2,Shadow the hedgehog and 06, his character has turned into a unlikable asshole. Everyone's character since colors has been misrepresented or off. In Shadow's game they aleast made him a likable character. Ever since free riders and colors the series has been terrible.
@@shadowgamera1124 Actually Shadow has barely been around since 06 until Forces happened. Boom, Crossovers, & Mobile Phone games aren't canon, & Lancelot is Shadow's Arthurian Realm counterpart rather than the actual Shadow. That leaves only Free Riders (which was exclusive to a peripheral for Xbox 360), Colors DS, & Sonic Generations. Also he was only a minor character in those last 2 games I mentioned thanks to the "Just Sonic" mentality of the series at the time. I personally thought it was Sonic who turned into an unlikable ass starting in Sonic Colors.
Sonic Forces did a decent job with Shadow, even though it was never explained what he was doing for 6 months & had most of his impact on the story stolen by Classic Sonic's needless inclusion in the game. Still the reason most characters have been misrepresented since Colors is because that was the game Pontac & Graff started being the series lead writers for. Sega is the only company dumb enough to hire lead writers who had no knowledge of the series they were being hired to write for & to keep them around for an entire decade despite constantly proving that they suck as writers. The fact is 1/3rd of the Sonic Fanbase could do that duo's job better than them easily if given the chance.
Let's also not forget the questionable VA changes made for the 2010s decade like Roger Craig Smith's unfitting voice for Sonic replacing Jason Griffith who was a natural to the role. Minnie Mouse replacing the wonderful Lisa Ortiz as Amy's VA & the questionable decision for Shadow's VA. At least in Forces Amy & Shadow's VAs actually managed to adjust to fit their roles, unfortunately the same can't be said for Roger who has become a defining trait of Sonic's Worst Decade alongside Pontac & Graff's awful writing.
Just discovered your content last week and I must say, it's awesome!
From one Sonic fan to another, keep 'em coming!
...oh, and- *clicks the sub button*