Buy an EOS R5 or Wait for A7S3? A Realistic Comparison!
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I found the overheating info on Facebook but it was originally published by CVP in their excellent video: • Canon EOS R5 - In-Dept...
Some sample footage referenced from Andrew's great EOS R5 review: • CANON EOS R5 FIRST IMP...
A few shots referenced from Peter McKinnon's hands-on video: • Hands ON with the NEW ...
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Andrew Trace showed off dual iso very well here: • Panasonic S1 - Does it...
Start - 00:00
Prices - 00:51
Sensors - 01:19
Resolutions - 01:57
Lowlight tech - 02:27
IBIS - 03:52
8K, 6K, 4K - 04:37
Slow Motion - 04:58
1080P Quality - 06:11
Dynamic Range - 07:06
C-Log vs S-Log - 08:20
Memory needs - 09:03
Codecs - 09:37
RAW on A7S3 - 10:05
RAW Editing - 10:45
Recording limits - 12:05
Overheating - 12:53
Autofocus - 14:47
Design - 15:01
Verdict - 15:43
Rolling shutter - 16:09
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Overheating Camera is a no go!
Your audio is out of sink with the image
You're a clown max 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome, comparing two cameras while having neither of them.
x1000 this should be stickied up on top of the comments
Realistic you don’t have either camera what’s realistic 🤔
He was deff given the a7siii for testing. Don’t be a sheep.
You don't even know when it's going to come out and what it's going to look like and you're only talking about having the S2? Man ...
"A realistic comparison".....based on paper specs on the canon side and rumors on the sony side.
At 0:41 he talks about you.
@@80-80. I do enjoy rumors and speculations but it doesn't make sense to call this "a realistic comparison".
"A Realistic Comparison" of two cameras you don't have. Nice!
...he's comparing the specifications. A guy with his experience probably knows what he's talking about...
And one of which is only rumored specs, but I am pretty sure is going to be a great video camera. Still though, very far stretch to call this realistic. Hypothetical would be more accurate. Click bait would be the most accurate.
The Canon r5 is first and foremost a camera for professional photographers. Even if the marketing is video oriented, it is intended for photographers. The Sony a7siii looks super cool, but it's not for photographers. Comparing the Sony a7siii and the r5 Cannon is irrelevant. You have to compare the Sony a7siii to the lumix s1h / blackmagic / lumix gh5 etc.
Exactly, yet people don’t put the time in to understand the differences and go straight to complaining when clearly they ain’t do the right research. They’re clearly too busy circle jerking each other off with that time
Imam Gueri it has 9 million pixels evf, if it has 48 mgp and the autofocus we already know this is gonna be as well a great still camera
dottorcarlone Sony never goes beyond 4K. And exceeding 4K would be contrary to the philosophy of the a7s series which are optimised for low light. The two devices are in different categories.
Imam Gueri you re not really informed. Sony has patented a quad bayer 48 mp sensor that can turn into 12 mp sensor for video with no pixel binning and pixel to pixel readout. The quad pixels arrays receive light information as one big pixel. Probably sony will utilise this sensor with the 48 mp still capability deactivated. But i personally think it wont be the case cause a 9 million pixels evf wouldnt make sense on a video centric camera. If this sensor will see the light it will be revolutionary. If they decide not to exceed 4k will be only to not overlap with the fx9
The R5 is going to be great for photographers, I think. But I also think it was made with hybrid video in mind. That's okay! So was the 5D line since the mk2. Nothing has changed here.
LOVE the bullet points scrolling/sifting for specific info, such a great improved update by UA-cam.
I have all canon lenses so the answer is easy. I already preordered the R5.
I fell the same way. I will stick to what lenses I have and use the camera bodies they'll natively mount too.
Canon’s accountants already factored in your decision before you even made it.
I already sold all my Canon gear. These are fantastic, but still too expensive, too late for me, but I sure hope they do well so that Sony in return make a move
Still stuck with R5 and R6. I really like R5, but it's too expensive.
samiebuka Yes you are correct. That’s what is needed.
EosHD said R5 normal 4k and 1080p mode use pixel binning instead of line skipping, folks asked this question in canon q&a, even the Canon tech representatives do not know this info.
Yep this is so key. I asked, they didn’t know.
How come everyone doesn’t care/talk about 32bit float audio recoding. It would be such a game changer if a camera could do this.
32 bit float is a bit moot unless the preamps are up to snuff. And so far, the preamps in pretty much all cameras has been pretty crap. I'd rather see better preamps first, then they can add 32 float for those I-can't-be-bothered-with-setting-the-correct-audio-level-videographers out there.
not really, out of camera audio setup will always be better. I don't care about audio in camera.
Fredrik and cdave2006, 100% agree. In camera audio, especially in mirrorless, is and has always been unusable garbage. Until buyers demand good audio, it will continue to be that way. If you're a mirrorless user, do your self a favor and buy a pair of Tentacles and a good audio recorder. Also, 32-bit is overkill for dialog if you spend even a tiny bit of effort in gain staging and level setting. You can buy a used Mix Pre 3 for under $400.00, put your mirrorless on top of it and end up with world class audio for a few hundred dollars.
Expectations videos are so relaxing and fun my friend you should do more!
Instead of an active fan how about having a heatsink that protrudes from the camera body you'd be able to add whatever cooling options you'd want to that. It could be sort of a modular thing where you could slot things onto the heatsink plate.
Great thoughts, many good points.
Great integrity and expertise on show. Thank you.
IMO, Sony has to deliver at least an "S1H" with some improvements and features beyond it's capabilities.
I think one of the "few" things sony would be better at are auto focus and a more affordable lens selection.
A 4k stacked sensor will be far beyond the 6k old tech sensor in the S1H.
@@RogerWilco1, agreed.. but 4K is so 2015! 😉
S1H is a great camera, but mine didn't come with a fork lift. :-(
Did yours?
@@avarmadillo lol the build quality is unmatched though its almost like my Amira. I love heavy cams to be honest. I don't work as a cam op mainly so maybe that's why.. lol
The fact that reviewers are even talking about the R6/R5 as video competitors to the A7s3 is a big marketing win for Canon. The vast majority of R6/5 buyers won’t even care about video.
They are geared for video. Stills, you notice any difference from the R. R5 will have more detail due to more MP.
If you are on Sony, waiting a little makes perfect sense. If you are already on RF or EF, and you own canon glass or cine cameras, the r6 and r5 are realistically the best canon will release for the next 2 years but I'll still wait, because the a7s3 might be so good or maybe the a7iv that might trigger a price drop in the canons. I don't think anyone needs the r5 immediately, anyone looking at buying it really is just trying to future proof or be ahead of the curve
@Obi-Wan Kenobi Yeap but imo hybrid shooters wouldn't need more than 4k, and those that need more than 4k rarely need stills, which leaves great more specialised options like the bmpcc and zcam available for those people. I still think that this r5 and r6 launch might have an effect similiar to the 5dm2 though. I love how the r5 is a "dare to dream" product from canon, which we haven't seen in a looooong time
I want absolute solid 4K with bulletproof autofocus. I have been slowly investing in the glass and waiting for the body. Can’t wait for your review.
canon is considering to put clog 3 in the R5 I'd rather have clog 2 and have to do more in post but clog 3 is a nice middle ground.
They added both 2 and 3 to the R6 and R5.
Great review! Totally agree about the formats for matching other cameras. Kinda bummed that the camera doesn’t have 4k raw (something i actually use). But i can’t complain because even blackmagic doesn’t downscale RAW and they had a 10 year head start
On the question of which one to buy, I think it is gonna be a close call and down to if the user is Canon or Sony in terms of the other equipments they own and working with already. What you think?
I think you've tested the new A7SIII. You keeping talking about the specs but then correcting yourself to make it sound like a guess instead of something you know. 🤔
I noticed that too... especially with the flippy screen comment....but that's ok...
@@Reyfox1 YES! Especially with the flippy screen. i have NOT heard talk about a flippy screen from rumour sources online, but he just outright said it will have one then corrected himself to make it sound like a guess. lol
Oh ya I caught that!
@@RawloftheDead when did he say it? im so hoping for a selfie screen that would be the last buying factor
Spot on. Love your in-depth analysis max.
What would you think if a company like Sony made a small form factor modular video system?
Something like the canon xc15 but with emount, aps-c/FF, internal ND, removable evf, good codecs, etc. Think it would ever happen? Is that a camera you would like/use?
Thanks for share this.. I know, some people dont like expectations, but others like me love it!
Yeah! I hope so😀
Super useful video 😀
I bet it would be 15-16MP for 5k. That way they get more res without the overheating issues of 6 and 8k.
Nice job Max. Really hope we have a battle here between Canon and Sony. That will only benefit all of us.
apples and oranges
@@johnalexander3169 maybe but Canon is promoting these cameras as video cameras. That is what the Sony a7siii is all about.
Naw it just benefits Canon and Sony
more new mirrorless cameras released = better for us
Speaking about sensor resolution for 1080p recording, I personally think its hard to say if the R5 will preform worse. Because the 30MP R has actually great 1080p. It’s not always the case to get better quality with smaller full frame sensor
Canon rated the IBIS to 8 stops with some lenses WITHOUT lens IS, like the 28-70 or 50 1.2.
What's ur opinion on R6 vs A7iii
In terms of low light, codec. & Overall?
Did you test this camera?
I like the idea of a fan and ventilation with a weather cover the user could slide closed! Could unlock unlimited 4K 10bit 120fps recording as long as it's not raining haha
Is it true that the R5 will ship with a fan?
One thing that will hammer your system when using raw and will slow down playback is hard drive speed, if you are using a crappy nvme then it's not going to have the through put to supply the data quick enough to the decoder to playback at full speed. CPU will also be a limiting factor here, wierd part is you are using a quadro 5000 for video editing, this is designed as a 3d animation and physics modelling card...
It would be a bit more "realistic" if you compare the A7S3 with the EOS R6 ...
You are comparing R5 to Sony A7SIII that have not been exist. All about A7RSIII are rumors. You don't even know if Sony will be going out or Sony will not release it after the EOS R5 released.
Did you the the background IBIS wobble on PM’s vlog on the R5 today? That kills it for me, if that sticks. What’s your experience with Sony on that?
Do you think it's possible to record a timelapse with Canon R6 internally or using an external intervalometer? I mean photo sequences RAW timelapse and not video-based like in Canon M50.
The primary heat source in these cameras is the processor. The more data the processor has to handle the hotter it will get. If the a7SIII has a 12 mpixel sensor as rumors suggest, along with an efficient cooling solution, it is probably not going to have heat issues like the R5 apparently has.
Yes and since Sony cameras seems less power hungry (Battery last longer) they are likely also heating up less.
Im coming from the GH5 and im looking for a new camera. I really love the video features of the GH5 but wasnt very excited with the lowlight performance. Will the 12MP sensor of the ASIII be bad for photos? Im looking to upgrade to a fullframe camera but would love higher quality photos.
12 megapixels is still enough unless your making large prints. I would feel safer with at least 18-20 which is way we are seriously considering the R6
We love these types of videos. Make as many as you feel like
Perfect camera is amazing ibis (basically do what samsung s20 did), autofocus, touch screen, 4k 120fps, & hdr video.... Would love to not need a gimbal and handheld. Im preferring my phone for personal shoots sometimes because it’s just much smarter. If phones got the depth of field down and telephoto lenses... that would be perfect.
Ooh baby. Excited for the a7siii now
Every time a new camera comes out I come here for a unbiased opinion. Keep it up my brotha!
I think the correct thing to do here right now even if you want this type of camera is to not preorder the Canons, at least until there are production units that get real world reviews, and do the same with the Sony if they don’t have prod units available at the time of the announcement.
I'm really noob at this camera stuff
But for youtube and that kind of regular content I have trouble understanding the hipe around 4k and above. Most people are watching in small screens... In my phone that has a good screen, it's hard to see the difference between 720p and 1080p. So why the hassle and expenditure on data storage for filming on that high resolution?
I much rader have great dinamic range and spot on auto focus and auto exposure so that I can concentrate on the content and have my videos always in focus and with good exposure. Much, much, more useful than 4k
They're cameras aimed at completely different users.
Thats the point!! The R5 is for photographers who sometimes need high quality video... the A7 is for filmmakers who won´t buy a real film camera. Completely different targets!
If the Sony can do reliable pixel binning, then that would be fantastic. Native 48MP sensor.......12MP when shooting pixel-binned 4K video......maybe even keep the 48MP for higher video resolutions, and of course for great high-resolution stills.
Really happy so far with the info out re: A7SIII
Please does anybody know the name of video, Max and Jordan test the overheating of various cameras?
Great work Max. It's amazing to compare one camera that you didn't have in your hands with second that hasen't been announced yet😂
Thanks for a great video. Can you say if you use hlg for this one?
A cooling concept I have. What about if cameras had an optional " fan grip" that basically looks like a grip extension that has a built-in fan system. This fan grip would connect into duct ports on the base of the camera to get the airflow up to the processor.
still kills the weather sealing on the camera, which is the reason mirrorless cameras don’t really have fans
C-LOG 2 coming in the first update! There's your HDR boost. I remember seeing somewhere that the rolling shutter will be "improved", though I don't remember where. I just wonder if it will be the same as you get from the EOS R, given that in 8K it'll be pushed through that oversampling process... could that somehow affect the rolling shutter performance? Honestly, if I'm getting good 1080@120, I think I'll be happy with that because that will be reserved for "C-Roll"; that stuff I'd just be adding here and there (especially if I need to let the camera cool off) and I'm not really concerned at all with but still could put to use if needed. My EOS R won't get 120 anywhere! BUT, it'll shoot very similar looking video and photos, color-wise, and will be right there for a ton of the workload stuff of regular, good video (given that I'll have to use my Sigma 14-24 Art to lower the crop, then edit in post to get it straightened up). Upside...? Well, the Sigma is a f1.4 lens, so better low-light when doing that.
Great video. I'm a newb, so feel free to tell me where I miscalculated above. I ordered my R5 a few minutes after launch, and wouldn't consider canceling in the least, especially since the announcement about the firmware update is already good, and will be better, either at launch or shortly thereafter.
I love my EOS R, and even my old 70D, and I have Canon EF lenses (and compatible) and extenders, so I'm good to go for a while on glass.
@Max, great input. I'll be very happy with 4k 120fps, no limit, no overheating. hdmi raw. From sonyrumors they mention the body to be the same as A7R4 -means no flip screen :( . I'll switch to canon if sony don't give us touch and sharper screen.The current model screen are out dated.
I hear the EVF is supposed to be 9000000 dots which is a little over 1440p and that’s the highest any evf is
kc chen it has fully articulating screen. Check sonyalpha
@@mani-rc2tv yea according to this rumor it's the ZV-1 selfie screen, it better be there
One feature the R5 has that isn’t being talked about much is the 500,000 shutter rating (same as 1DXiii), the A7Sii had 200,000, will the iii get a better shutter? personally I am a photographer and don’t really expect to ever shoot more than a few minutes of video at a time 😅 Excited to hear the 28-70:f2 (my new go to lens) will get 8 Stops with IBIS, even without IS built into the lens, and it seems like shooting at 1.2 will be amazingly reliable, even with movement - main disappointments are ; SanDisk doesn’t have a 256gb UHS II (ideally would like 2 cards the same size to shoot redundant), I would have preferred 2x CFexpress, and going from DSLR to mirrorless means significantly less photos per battery as well... (300 rating, which is 1/3 of the 5d4 900 rating...) The first few weeks will be interesting to see how battery life goes, and whether I am fine to continue with carrying extra batteries, or whether I do need to get a battery grip :/ never have really liked using them
It blows my mind how after years, people still don’t know that the S line is focused on video. Yet they bash it for not having top notch photo specs smh
Ayyitsjayy the A7Sii shutter rating is still higher than the 5d4 (what I am currently using), some people prefer the low light performance of lower megapixel cameras as well, it can also make it easier to avoid shake, realistically the cameras serve different purposes - better specs don’t matter if it doesn’t serve your purpose
Ayyitsjayy it’s even more mind blowing that the A7S line is compared to the canon mirrorless and DSLR PHOTO cameras. And while they bash the Sony A7S for “poor photo quality,” they bash the Canon cameras for the lackluster video features. I think the ones complaining are never the ones actually making money. Probably just “me me me” hobbyists.
Does the mount size effect ibis potential? I wonder if Sony sticking with the E Mount is a limitation.
You are comparing wrong cameras. If A7S3 is going to be low res, you should compare it with R6. I don't think R6 has over-heating issues.
Do you think, when the Sony a7siii is ready, it will be finally possible to have a decent touch screen with usable brightness for outside? Finally??
And I wish a full size HDMI port and if possible Iso lower than 100, maybe Iso 50 or even 25...
My guess is spec for spec the Canon r5 will be the better camera however I think if the r5's overheating issues are as indicated when the production models ship, the Sony might actually turn out to be the better value camera. On the r5 the 8k is really just a bonus to me whether it overheats or not, however overheating in some 4k modes is the actual deal breaker for me and thats why if the sony is doing whether 4k 60 or 120 with no overheating..it would be more appealing for me.
hippie hippo I think the overheating is just completely a non-issue. When will you seriously film non-stop for 25 Minutes in 8K? Exactly, NEVER! Same with 4 K 120, this is for b-roll only, and typically you look for a shot, you try it, filming takes a minute or so, and then you need more time to find the next shot. For everything else, 4K 24 or even FHD will be plenty enough, even though I guess if you want to do FHD you will be better off wit the R6
It is crazy to compare the R5 45MP with the Sony A7iii 12/24MP camera while the Sony camera is really primarily a competitor the R6 with a 20MP sensors for use in low light and action photography. The R5 is quite a different product. It is not $25K cinema camera and comparing it's time limitations with cameras that do have the same resolution or frame seems silly and possibly biased. Apples and oranges can not be meaningfully compared. The A7iiii has an unknown price and could be or more less than expected. The pixels are large and that sounds like the R6 which is pretty similar to what many think the Sony will cost. The R5 is for the 45MP market of 8k and 30-45 MP image data. Cropping is easier here. FPS is slower than if fewer MP would be used but cropping is critical for many still profession "must get the killer shop" photographers. I like your videos but I wish it seems less like trashing what a camera might not based another website but rather comparing similiar cameras with factual data and being careful about speculation. I agree with Hippie Hippo that R5 will be better for my use the A7III and if you are buying it for 8k or even 4K video features you must have you must wait. I have only ever shot 2K for long periods but I want 8K for brief clips generating 33MP stills. I have a substantial need for that. I am not a film maker but an action grabber. Heat is way down on my list of concerns near the bottom. Weather sealing and durability with mistreatment are higher on my list that R6 is less rugged when abused than the R5 which like the EOS 5D MkIV is most likely well sealed and build tank even if you screw and it acutually may survive if you drop it or it's lenses. Who doesn't car about that? You pay price for that but it can be worth if you use it seriously. Glass is where money has always been.
@@gundisrambo9054 It's not just 8K. If you look at the specs, you're also limited to 30 minutes at 4K 30. It doesn't say anything about 24, but it's not too far off. It's probably because it downsamples from a higher rez. We'll have to look to real-world usage reports to know if this will be an issue, but if this is the case, it's a problem form documentary, events, etc.
All the tests were done on pre production models, we gotta wait for the actual models to be tested on. And most videographers don't film constantly for >30mins. If you want to be serious about videography you need a cinema body. Otherwise most people use multiple cameras to shoot video so 30mins shouldn't be a big issue - remember sonys use to overheat and shut off? Sony users used multiple bodies to get around this problem.
What if the A7SIII has a global shutter?
Hi Max,
Nice video summary covering R5 and A7S3 rumors.
Finally @7:09 talking about DR. Would love to see DR comparison between R5 vs A7S3 when it comes out.
Appreciate if you could show the following real world comparison of both cameras once A7S3 is out:
1) workflow: file size and rendering times;
2) overheating and recording times: can this be solved with external recorder;
3) lowlight shooting;
4) DR;
5) bit rates and bit depth;
6) af system;
7) rolling shutters;
8) IBIS
Also, would love to see stills comparison between R5 vs A7R4, especially with the RF lenses vs the GM lenses.
Thank you and appreciate the work put into these videos!
When the dust settles I think the R5 and R6 will be understood to be primarily for photos, while the a7S3 will be primarily for video.
Wow 🤩 Max already know prices. Interesting
I remember spending 9k plus on graphics cards alone. I still have my SGI workstation from the 90s.. lmao
When Kenji Tanaka talked about really big pixels, the IMX 521 CQR sensor immediately came to my mind. This sensor with 15Mpixel may be ideal for the upcomming "A7S3". This Quad Bayer design has also a 60 Mpixel capability. If it could be used in both modes, you could get a low light camera with excellent colors as well as a high resolution 60Mpixel camera. Not only would this be an excellent video camera, but also an excellent stills camera. Now this would "exeed my expectations".
Max told me he was buying me both when they come out
Can you do one on the R5 vs the big cinema cameras like the canon c line and the red cameras?
The R5 Canon ibis looks horrible in Peter Mckinnon's latest video with a wide lens. Really wobbly warpy footage. I hope they fix this issue.
SAR just posted that the A7Siii will have a fully articulating screen
Don't forget the batteries. The Canon battery is much smaller and will also constrain recording times.
Sony a7siii definitely the way to if you want video only. 20-24 mp minimum for a hybrid camera. Was definitely hoping for at least 20-24 mp for the a7sIII.
I love your channel, however I find it frustrating that you are treating those hybrid mirrorless cameras as if they were solely made to shoot video and stills were only a nice little gimmick on the side. That's one of the biggest differences between those cameras and you are only mentioning it for a couple of seconds. With 12MP the A7SIII is completely unusable for a lot of photography work and I was really hoping for Sony to at least use a 20+ MP Sensor which would be plenty for most use cases. Oh well, there's always something...
You got it right. It's like a one sided review.
Sony should refresh its user interface...
Canon is doing it perfectly tbh.
Sony spends all of their man power on not overheating, Canon spends all their man power on UI. Can't have it all.
@@NickL0VIN canon used to be known for not overstretching themselves though. The r5 is only useful if youre certain you won't be shooting over 30 mins. No interviews, no podcasts, no weddings, no gigs. I'm really not sure what they were thinking with this camera. UI can't save a shoot that is ruined because the camera won't turn back on.
@Bárður yeah definitely, thats why 16k cinema cameras appear to have lower specs but are taken more seriously by the People understand what's important
Hey now that you guys are reviewing cameras can you please put some speed test in with more comparisons in Lightroom and Capture one pro in your reviews with Mac computers?
On PC CP1 are faster to han LR but I have only just downloaded the last improved LR classic which should be better in this regard.
I wonder if they have improved the lcd screen on sony which you could barely use on bright sun with a7sii
Which canon camera are photographers supposed to buy? I am not interested in the video capabilities in the R5 and don't want to pay for that. However, the R6 only has 20mp, which seems low in 2020. So I guess photographers should still buy the EOS R, or go with a Sony R
Why compare or wait ? I am Canon so gonna get R5, Sony lovers can wait for their model. Simple is that.
Competition will lower price even if we are loyal to a brand. I am a Canon user and waiting for lower price because of Sony’s upcoming camera. 😍
I would say "HOW compare?" NONE of these cameras are out yet. even the R5 models in had are pre-production.
Simple
It seems we are getting close to buying whatever matches our lens inventory. Canon, Nikon and Sony are all pretty good now.
Any thoughts when Sony A7 mark4 will appear?
I'm getting more and more happy with my Panasonic S1H! Reliable plus!
It's an awesome camera so I understand it. Love the screen.
Paired with the RF lenses canon release this would be a beast!! 28-70 F2!!!
Is 4K @ 72 & 96 FPS a thing? (For 24fps with 3 & 4 times slow mo)
Are you going to review the xps 15 or 17?
I’m going with my 1960 Kodak Brownie 😀
This is one of the toughest decisions I've ever had to make in terms of video gear. I have a 5D3 and a bunch of Canon glass, had a 1DX2 but sold right before the 3 came out. I use Canon for stills but started using Sony for video in 2016. I have an A7S2, A73 and a handful of Sony lenses. I have R5 preordered right now, if I get that I can get rid of all my Sony gear and go back to all Canon, so that would declutter my gear and it the R5 would end up costing me nothing. The overheating stuff with the R5 is scaring me, although I'd be using it in 4k24 most of the time and that doesn't have overheating issues. I really wish the thing just did 4K Raw instead of 8K Raw. A7S3 sounds like it would be better as a 4k camera but it would keep me having to manage 2 systems. Really tough call.
I think they announced firmware for 4K raw. I know a lot of firmware is coming for it, all the models that have been tested were pre-production. I would think though that the chart Canon released on what is going to overheat is accurate for final product though, maybe will be improved.
You can ofcause only decide after Sony A7s3 come out - But I'm almost sure it will be stunning, they will pull the rabit witch will be breataking - And then you will have all the video gear you need - I sold my A7s2 to get A73 - but miss that beautyfull video from A7s2, but love the focus on A73 .... but you will have them all - what a video treat.
I think the A7s iii will have 15mp or 16 but i am not shure
The R5 look great for Photograpy, but for video isnt the Blackmagic 6k worth an in-depth look? Im
It's gonna have a 18mp sensor. 5.5K RAW out of HDMI(hopefully with all flavors of resolution) and dual ISO. 14stops of DR in video mode. I hope they consider a Cfast 2.0 card slot tho.
Those would be some nice Specs. Unfortunately however I don't see how Sony can compete with their IBIS due to the amount sizr
On the current specs minus the 9+ megapixel viewfinder I'd agree with you on price.
BUT, that viewfinder has me worried, I have an awful feeling Sony's going to upgrade lots of little bits to a specification many users don't need and it will have a price point to match. As I'm not a member of the Saudi royal family and all I'm after is reliable 10bit full frame 4k, I think the cost may push me towards a Canon R6.
Hi Max! Why they don't give us pure photography with a higher dynamic range? Only Leica has true conception of photography as far as I know but its cameras are unaffordable.
Dual gain will be great!
If Sony gives the a7siii a flip screen and 4K 60p it will most likely win out in the long run. If it adds FHD 180/240 and higher internal bit rates in addition to the previously stated, it will be the "winner" of the 2020 cameras releases and make A LOT of content creators VERY happy. Most creators that are looking at these cameras are wanting 4K 60 with good bit rates and DR. 8K is a great advancement but oversampled 4K is an awesome sweet spot for many many people and their video needs/wants. THANKS AGAIN Max for another solid video!!!
Since i have six(6) sony lenses I'll guess i have to wait and see what the A7SIII can do..
FHD 240 same data rate as 4K 60, so don’t count on 4K 120, plus UHS-II SD cards not fast enough to record 4K 120
Well, you could do 4K 120 but you're not going to get a data rate you're happy with... That has been the knock on Sony for those grading those low-bit rate 8 bit video - it falls apart.
UHS-ii is up to 720Mbps. Definitely enough for 4K 120P HEVC
brthiebauth using H.265 will double the quality for same file size. So 400Mbps would be more than enough for 4K120 if it’s H.265 and not H.264.
@@LukeMaximoBell1 What I was saying is Sony has traditionally used lower bitrates for the same level video. Example - EOS R had a 480Mbs bitrate for 4K30p while Sony maxed out at 100 Mbs. For this comparison I am XAVC S and H.264 for the Sony and EOS R respectively. XAVC S is based on H.264.
I'm very glad that c
Canon and Sony are battling it out! That helps everyone! I would like to point out that both the R5 and R6 are getting Clog 3. Also, if you watch Peters latest video he shows a few shots that had insane DR, im hoping real world testing proves it to actually be quite good.
I hope Sony gets a full flip screen for vlogging.
a7S III and R5 totally different. What is better BMW 335i or Ford F350? Sony is targeting heavy video use and the R5 is more suited to stills. They are both going to be amazing products.