I’m really hoping episode 1 of season 2 explores Stolas’ backstory, like how he got married to Stella, were him and Stella ever in love, and why is he so fascinated with imps?
I really love that idea, because I have been wondering the same questions since like the “Loo Loo Land” episode came out. I also like to see if we meet Stolas’ mother because I think Stolas was a total mama’s boy growing up.
@@lovelymuffin1191 @TheFatPiranhaPlant , they where in love at one point, stolas said so in ep2 but after a while him and Stella grew apart and the relationship started becoming something he didn't want he did love her but his concept of what love is now is screwed up, and that's why it's been hard for him to actually connect with blitzo, along with his baggage but that's a whole nother story
You Took the words right out of my mouth I am dying to find out all of this!! my other biggest question is will stolitz become a ship again?…after what happened in episode 7?😔
It would make sense if Paimon being a strict royal traditionalist loyal to Lucifer is what caused Stolas to rebel against that by loving an imp. Paimon being a not so great father may also be why Stolas is trying to be a good dad to Octavia.
@@Broomer52 maybe it has something to do with painon acting as a god of familias, but I never played Geshin impact, so I don’t really know much about the lore, sorry.
@@Broomer52 but Stolas IS a snob, Blitzo being the exception, he literally calls Millie and Moxie “littler one” then dismisses them with a careless look. If it weren’t for Blitzo being associated with them, he wouldn’t care if they died. He wouldn't have saved them in truth seekers if Blitzo wasn’t there. He those not even register their existence.
@@Amadeo790 had stolos not intervened when he did, then the agents Would have definitely gotten their hands on that book of his, so if he’s not going to lift a finger to save the lives of Meir imps, then he could at least do it for the book.
Paimon is said to offer familiars I.E. Animal companions for Magic practitioners. So, the various animal images we see before Paimon appears could unmanifested versions of some of the familiars he can create for those who summon him.
@@kevinkocher9347 Piamon teaches all arts and sciences and other secret things. He also is supposed to have a great booming voice that roars when he appears.
@@victoryangel29 I was referring to his abilities demons who are good at the mastered Magic's and abilities often times have the titles referencing what they can and can't do
King Paimon is known to sometimes grant the summoner familiars that will teach the summoner Science, Knowledge, and Hidden Locations. I feel that the different shapes that he takes could be the different types of the familiars that King Paimon would give the summoner when they ask for knowledge.
I kinda had this ideal for an episode of Blitz early attempts to access the living world by offering his services as a familiar to a witch. That he could stay in the living world to kill humans for his clients, but his witch mistress was too demanding to deal with and Blitz being Blitz runs off. However one of the times he does return to earth she finds him again and tries to submit him back into her service but a fight ensures between her and the IMP Gang.
Theory Comes In! If this guy is Stolas’ father, how much u wanna bet that he put Stolas in a arranged marriage? And this brings us back to episode 2 when Stolas try to talk to his daughter, he was struggling to get his words out when in reality he was trying to find to tell her that they were set up. Sounds a bit far off but, I feel like it kinda makes sense, ya know.
In the wiki it's said that before paimon some demons with instruments go first so I think that the 4 shapes he took could represent that as 3/4 of the forms he took are related to sounds and noises. Dragons are (among other things)known for their loud roars, goats have horns that were used as instruments, elephants use their trunks for trumpeting and bats use echolocation. I could find an excuse for the other animals under the bat but I'd be happy to see anyone else's idea about them.
Paimon looks so regally badass! i can't wait for episode 1 of season 2! however i'm also wondering if Stolas's mom will make an appearance, and i'm also wondering if Paimon will hear about Stolas and Blitz and if he does will Paimon think the same way everyone else in Hell now does? by that i mean Paimon might also think of Stolas as an embarrassment to the Goetia family name.
Hmmmmmmm. I just had an interesting thought. Paimon is reported in the Ars Goetia to know all the worldly secrets, and will answer any question asked on him by his summoner honestly. The events of hell aren't "worldly" obviously, but if he knows so much, I wonder if Paimon could guess or assume with a high degree of accuracy whether Blitzo and Stolas will work together, be happy, have a future, etc. It'd be interesting if instead of being disapproving, while not being entirely approving per se, maybe we get the hint, whether he offers a subtle clue to Blitzo or Stolas, or if it's just for us the audience to know, that Blitzo and Stolas will probably work it all out and be just fine.
So apparently this guy is named King Paimon, another member of the Ars Goetia, which are also known as 72 Pillars of Lemegeton. Paimon is Stolas’ father and Paimon has multiple titles, those being "Master of Infernal Ceremonies, Great King of Hell, Lucifer's Most Obedient, Demon of Love and Chaos, and Pale King".
@@themissakura599 More like, he believed that what he was doing was the only solution given that the Radiance was infecting everyone. Plus, it is surprising to me that no one actually talks about some of the other bugs that ended up doing much worse things than the Pale King.
@@jcmahrt5100 Agreed, he tried to save his kingdom while someone like soul master only tried to save himself. But he's still a bad father considering he let thousands of his inborn children in the abyss to be filled with void and then discarded. And by instilling a feeling in PK, their sacrifice was seemingly for naught. That's no dad of the year in my book, even if he had good intentions.
@@themissakura599 yeah, though, we don't actually know how he treated the Hollow Knight or his daughter. Chance and circumstance just really screwed over everyone, and while he wasn't exactly a good father, that didn't mean that he was actually seeking to be a father, from what I understand, he needed a way to quickly seal away the Radiance and infection, and seeing as insects can have a lot of kids, it was the only way for him to find that one which would be able to seal away the two threats to his kingdom and people. Plus, we don't actually know how he felt when he did the deed, so he probably regretted that he had to do it. Not to mention that I think those kids of his were already made with a bit of void already.
I’m just hoping that Stolas father isn’t like “bad” and by that I mean like he’s actually a good father and cares for his son in his “own” way in doing so... and that there are some things that Stolas learned from him in a useful way at least Edit: I know there in hell people but there’s certain levels of bad that go on down there... depending on the power and who that demon is. It all comes down to how they interact with other characters!
Season 2 is definitely starting out with some Stolas lore. Pretty much all the teasers we've gotten have pointed in that direction. -Baby Stolas gif -Andrealphus, Stolas' "shitty brother-in-law" according to Viv -and now the gif of Paimon
One of the big things I remember about Paimon was that he knows all secrets. If that’s incorporated into the Helluva Boss character he may have known about Stolas’ true feelings on his marriage or his affair before it was brought to light. Could be interesting maybe.?
I was just thinking, and indeed I said it in a comment above, whether the question of "Does Stolas and Blitzo's relationship have a leg to stand on, and will they work out as a couple" count as a secret, and thus could Paimon know the answer, or at least guess it with a high degree of accuracy.
something i noticed with the last transformation is that the "bat" heavily resembles a seraphim angel, one of the highest ranking angels in real life lore.
Interestingly apaprently the Ars Goetia was quite vagu on Paimon, describing him as only a really regal, beautiful person riding a crowned camel. So it's possible the show is going with the ida that Paimon doesn't have a set form, currently. I also wodner if they'll incorporate the camel in any way.
Nah, Paimon will be in season 2, while Ep. 8 was confirmed to have no real narrative changes and looks to just be a filler Hellhound party. (sorry for the negativity, but I'm still annoyed that they wasted Verosika in the Lust ring episode of all things). The delays are likely because they're trying to include Vivzie's "die young" music video and the blue wolf and are thus facing legal issues.
@@Wanten-the-stormtrooper What do you mean by the ‘Die Young’ music video? What does that have to do with the delays? Genuinely asking, not trying to be rude, I’m not really aware of anything outside of what I get from UA-cam so I’m not sure what is going on with the series.
Hopefully he’s a better bad in the show than in the fan art but he looks amazing I’ve got a strong feeling that the new season is going to be more scary.
Paimon being the most loyal to Lucifer just added another fascinating layer to this already complex story. And I'm hyped! Also, he looks like the game Hollow Knight just spat him out, and I am loving it
I like to think that whenever something is given as a small hint towards hellava boss or hazbin hotel, vivienne medrano watches us all make theory’s and guess stuff and us end up being wrong
I knew there was something wrong with Emergency Food but not to THIS extent! What's he now, a trap AND a dilf!? . . . . Genshin Impact fans will understand.
King paimon also has relations to money,power and spirituality. I feel like he might be q strict but loving dad but also understands that stoles might be struggling with his lust or love of blitz. Also I want to note that the marks around king paimon's yes are the marks of his summoning circle thing.
By the way, there was actually something in the trailer that says something about Fizzaroli's relationship with Asmodeus, but you have to look really hard.
high powerful goetia demons seem to be composed of multiple animals like asmodeus have a ram and bull and Paimon has a ram too as well as An eyeball bat and an elephant. Weird they both have a ram huh?
I believe there is no real conflict between the system since it could circumstantial in that Piamon may out rank Asmodues in the family and the matters of the Goetia but when it comes to matters of the Lust ring Asmodeus is authority over the other Goetia.
Plot Twist !: What if there are two different Asmodeus? • Asmodeus Senior: Emperor of Lust Ring • Asmodeus Junior: Son of Senior. One of Ars Goetia Kings (the one from Ozzie episode) What if the Seven Deadly Sins have the rank of Emperors and Lucifer is the supreme Emperor.
@@Mirartium736 The funny thing is that in the real Ars Goetia, Asmodeus is called Asmoday and some believe that they're two separate demons and that Asmoday is the son of Asmodeus. :Edit: I was reading about Asmodeus because I couldn't remember where I heard that and now I'm not so sure, the closest I could find to what I said was this. "According to the Kabbalah and the school of Rashba, Agrat Bat Mahlat, a succubus, mated with King David and bore a cambion son Asmodeus, king of demons." So basically Asmodeus being the half demon child of king David. So uh just ignore everything before the edit, I'm sorry. T_T
I'm really hoping, even though it won't happen, and would make no narrative sense, that Paimon has a super deep voice, and intimidating mannerism, but is otherwise exactly like stolas.
I can't wait for the Goetia to come more into focus for the series. As much as I prefer the hellborn and imps, this whole aristocrat angle adds an extra layer to the plot, especially the theory that there are 9 families in the Goetia corresponding with the number of kings. Considering that Paimon and his relationship to Stolas have also been revealed, I find it more and more likely that Andrealphus married a sibling of Stolas than he's Stella's brother. Will Paimon send his son-in-law to keep Stolas reigned in/give Stolas an example of "proper" Goetia behaviour? Or will Andrealphus interfere to curry Paimon's favour? One thing I'm quite interested in, is whether or not the series will include the four cardinal spirits/kings that are described in the Lesser Key of Solomon: Gaap (who is actually one of the 72 goetia demons, number 33, but not the others), Ziminiar, Corson and Amaymon, and how they'd be included. If there are indeed a king per family as the above theory states, then these additional 4 would bring that number up to 13, which seems bit more ominous to me, based on old superstition.
That's true. While the numbers 12 and 14 symbolize fullness and God, the number 13 is their mockery, including 13 Illuminati families. Hell's 13 kings led by Emperor Lucifer would be interesting
Just a theory but the 4 headed dragon could be Leviathan(since a 7 headed dragon would be Lucifer), the elephant is Behemoth(it has been depicted as such) and the vulture could be Ziz a giant bird that does appear in Psalms. Keep in mind Paimon has knowledge of the Earth,Sea,and Air, as well as anything hidden so it could be reasonable that he's either their creator or manifestation.
Granted that Leviathan, Behemoth, and Ziz are creations of God according to Jewish myth, I think that instead Paimon might just be able to summon familiars that represent the three beasts. Cause Paimon has a thing for knowledge and it could be that for the three familiar versions of the three beasts, you would essentially gain knowledge about the land, sea, or sky.
To me, Ozzie looks like a peacock. Peacocks are known as a symbol of love, that’s maybe why he has feathers in the back. As referring to when they were making Ozzie’s feet; Maybe they went with him having shoes for his outfit, and without him wearing them, it maybe adds nothing compared to the shoes.
My guess is that stolas’s dad and brother in law are gonna try and persuade and convince stolas to stop seeing blitzo, and after what happened in episode 7 and spending some family bonding time he might start to consider it. Now here’s where it can go in two directions. 1: stolas after a lot of thinking and convincing from him dad and brother decides to stop seeing blitzo and act more like the prince he is meant to be, blitzo would then eventually find out about it and at first he might think that this is for the better only to later realize with some advice from millie , moxxie, and maybe even loona that he can’t live without stolas in his life and goes to reconcile with him only to be shut out and rejected by the new stolas. And then they could make a whole plot where blitzo tries to bring the old stolas back and while having some interference from stolas’s wife, brother in law, and dad he will ultimately succeed. And who knows they might even pull a twist where Octavia helps blitzo in some way. 2: dew to what happened in episode 7 stolas might have a moment of weakness and consider it only to reinforce his feelings for blitzo and reject their demands. This would then lead to them going after blitzo and his friends because if there’s no blitzo to get in the way then stolas doesn’t have a reason to reject them anymore. And who knows they could pull an unexpected twist and get help from someone they would have never expected to help them before
"And who knows they might even pull a twist where Octavia helps blitzo in some way." I've been thinking Octavia and Blitzo are two characters who could use some unlikely bonding tbh. Oct clearly dislikes Blitzo, but mostly it seems to be for the fact she thinks he'll tear their family apart and take her father's attention away from her, as well as not understanding why her dad's putting most of his chips on the table for an imp. If somehow those two could hash it out, I could see Oct realizing that Stolas and Blitzo actually truly care deeply for each other, maybe even love each other (or getting there at least.), and that Stolas needs Blitzo in his life. Furthermore, whether it's Blitzo or Stolas who tells her, Oct should learn that Stolas will never abandon or lose her father's affections. Hell, I could see Blitzo telling her how much Stolas truly adores her, never not talking about her even when they're together type of thing. I could easily see Octavia becoming an ally to Stolas and Blitzo if she believes in love and not coming between what's going to happen anyway, as well as learning that Blitzo isn't so bad a guy. It would also be cool if Blitzo and Octavia got to bond since that brings Oct closer to meeting Loona. I dunno I just feel like those two would be friends and goodness knows those two both probably need more friends. Hell depending on how serious Blitzo and Stolas get by the end of this series they could theoretically be step sisters, and by then they'd probably have one hell of a strong bond with each other.
@@gregvs.theworld451 I agree wholeheartedly with your idea. I think that if the first option I gave happened then maybe it could be the thing that makes her realize blitzo isn’t a bad guy. Like she notices how differently her father is acting and spends even less time away from her now that he’s taking his duties seriously, and maybe even overhear a conversation her mom is having with striker or some other bounty hunter or assassin telling them to go kill blitzo and the others so there’s no chance stolas could or would ever go back to him. Then she would either try to go tell her dad OR sneak out of the mansion and go find blitzo to warn him of what her mom is planning. Who knows her mom might even say she’s a lost cause and try to have her killed to, that would then give Octavia the chance to live with IMP and bond with blitzo and maybe loona. I know a lot of people want those two to become friends even though there’s a bit of an age gap
Man, I remember thinking Stolas was just gonna be a gag character back in the pilot and episode 1. I'm really glad that they didn't go that direction. Stolas is the most intriguing character to me, aside from Blitz.
Stolas and ars goatia is very interesting but i have a theory we're ars goatia are split up into different rings to serve the different prince's of the rings. This means they might just be there to help and assist the prince's with ruling their rings. Or maybe they only serve under Lucifer however still obeying the ring prince's due to power. Idk just a thought.
I imagine he would be very cool and collected when addressing his son's actions with Blitz, but when he learns about the business with the grimoire he acts like Homer Simpson and chokes Stolas.
All the Genshin Impact people saying Paimon reminds them of that and I'm over here thinking of Piemon / Piedmon from Digimon. Creepy clown digimon that turned everyone into keychains.
Everyone's talking about Paimon the demon or Paimon the flying emergency food, but no one's talking about the fact that if Paimon, Osmodeus, and Stolas exist then the rest of King Solomon's demons also exist including: Morax, Barbatos, Bael/Baal, and Buer
I know it's probably never going to happen, but it would be funny if the show at least winked an ackowledgement of Paimon's role in the film Hereditary. Are the demons of hell aware the humans put them in movies? What do they think of their portrayal? Is pazzuzu (the demon from the exorcist movie) in the show? Does get mocked for his film portrayal or does he brag that he is a film star? Does Asmodeous know he was technically in an episode of puppet history? Idk just something to consider I guess.
If Paimon is the father of the Goetia in this universe maybe the Goetia are all different species, and Paimon has several different forms, shifting into the Owl form when presented with Stolas to address his owl son.
I think paimon's forms are that of the less notable constellations. For example, the dragon one is most likely hydra. The bull looking one is probably centaurus, and the bird one is most likely corvus. The elephant might represent the elephant trunk nebula inside of the cepheus constellation
The politics of the demon nobility is really interesting, I wonder if that will play a part in Hazbin Hotel? Charlie's redemption plan could be a good plot point for a hostile takeover as they've lost faith in Lucifer?
I have a dictionary of demons and stolas' description in the book is: The thirty sixth demon of the Goetia Stolas is a great Prince with twenty six legions of infernal spirits in his service. He appears in both 'Scots discoverie of witchcraft' and 'Wierus's pseudomonarchia Daemonum'. According to these texts, he teaches astronomy and has absoute knowledge of the virtues of precious stones and herbs. Although he has he power to take human shape, he manifests as a night raven. The Goetia of Dr Rudd gives his name as stolus, saying that he can be constrained in the name of the angel Menadel. According to the book of incantations, he is a great and powerful Prince appearing in he shape of a mighty raven.
The description for paimon was this (bit with ☠ emojis are his role in the Goetia if you just want to read that, his took so fucking long to type): Also spelled paymon. A demon of the order of Dominions, Paimon is believed to be one of four demons who preside over the cardinal directions. His domain is he West. In the Goetia, Paimon is listed as the nineth of seventy two demons. According to this text, when paimon is summoned, he is preceded by a host of spirits in the form of men playing trumpets , cymbals, and diverse other musical instruments. If this were not enough to herald his appearance, paimon himself is said to manifest with a mighty roar of his booming voice. He comes astride a camel, and he appears as a man bearing a glorious crown upon his head. Wierus's pseudomonarchia Daemonum further says that he has a ery effeminate face, while plancy's Dictionaire infernal.describes him as a man with a woman's face. All sources suggest that, of the various Goetia demons, Paimon has some of the strongest loyalties to Lucifer . Paimons voice is unnaturally loud, and he will continue to speak at such an ear-splitting volume that the summoner will not be able to understand him, unless he commands the demon to alter his speech. when called upon, Painmon can teach knowledge of the arts as well as the sciences. He can also reveal he true answers to such mysteries as the nature of the earth , the location of the Abyss, and he origin of the wind. In addition to being a veritable font of knowledge, Paimon is credited with the ability to confer dignities. He provides familiar spirits and can be sent against his enemies. He reportedly binds any that resist him in his own chains. His abode is said to be in the northwest, where he rules over no fewer than 200 legions of spirits. Some of these are from the order of angels and some from the orders of powers. Paimon himself is said to belong either to the order of Dominions or the order of cherubim. He responds favorably to consecration and libations. In his 'Discoverie of witchcraft' Scot translates the Latin word for libations instead as sacrifices, lending a somewhat nefarious air to the operations involving Paimon. In the Welsh grimoire known as the book of incantations, his name is spelled Parmon. This text also notes he obedience of Lucifer, which is given context in the French 'Livre des esperitz' where it is clear Lucifer is his direct superior in the hierarchy of spirits. Here texts agree that Paimon is so loud he can be impossible to understand. As a solution, the book of Oberon suggests giving him a slip of paper upon which to write his messages. Many grimoires identify Paimon as a good source for familiar spirits but the book of incantations openly states that he can bind humans to the magicians will as well, effecting a magickal enslavement. According to the book of oberon, he can additionally make all the fishes in the sea obedient. Paimon sometimes manifests in the company of two lesser infernal Kings. In the pseudomonarchia Daemonum, these are names Beball and Abalam. In the Goetia, they are called Labal and Abal. The book of incantations calls these Babel and Abatano . When he manifests with these two Kings, Paimon only brings along twenty five legions of lesser spirits , at least according to the pseudomonarchia. ☠☠☠☠☠☠ In this text his name is spelled paymon. Paimon also appears as the nineth demon named in the Goetia of Dr Rudd. Here, he is accorded the rank of King and he is said to rule of 25 legions of spirits.☠☠☠☠☠ This text associates him with the order of powers. The angel Hasiel has the power to constrain him. In the clavis inferni, it is Raphael who has power over Paimon. In this text, the demon king is also associated with the element of water and an animal like a manicure. Paimon also appears in the sacred magic of Abramelin the mags. Here, he is one of the eight sub prince's who oversee all of he spirits summoned on the third day of the holy guardian angel operation. He is attributed with the power to cause visions, raise the dead, give familiars, and summon spirits in diverse forms. He can further answer any questions about the past, present, or future and hebcan make the magician fly. According to both Mathers and Agrippa, Paimon is equated with the fallen angel Azazel in rabbinical lore.
Assuming higher ranked individuals will have more demon forms? Lucifer having the most, princes of rings likely gaining a specific demon form upon promotion, then demons like paimon having around 4?, demons like stolas having at least 1, etc etc all the way down to imps having 0 (assuming since they can’t even transform into human disguises lmaoo) Would make the most sense if this is what the hierarchy in hell is based on.
The different forms seemingly are his forms at his children resemble like stolas has 4 eyes like piamon’s shadow forms but with a face like paimon’s owl forms face so the forms paimon shows before his owl form seemingly are forms at his children look like as paimon said he has so many kids he literally had to ask the butler imp what child stolas was
Paimon is one of the few demons who is FULLY loyal to lucifer Actually, most demons don't even follow him even tho he is the king of hell (or satan in some versions, like the binsfeld one) Demons care for themselves and want to have fun and do whatever they please, a lot of demons try to gather territory as a way to have power too Anyway xd.... What i mean with fully is that Even demons that follow him Don't fully care about his goals or orders, some only care about their own personal goals Like mammon wanting riches Not caring if they are in hell or heaven as long as he has then Others like Moloch just wants to destroy stuff couse fun B> Even Belial (Which name means "The one with no master") Who was created shortly after lucifer and it's usually presented as his righthand man would backstab him and all his demon partners if it resulted in an easy way back to heaven without any kind of redemption involved o_o (oc this would work as a backout plan in case things went south but like...He's more than ready to do it xddd) Poor lucifer xD
@@null9932well... In versions where they are two different beings they usually have this dynamic where one is the king of hell and it's armies and the other works as his second in command So like idk Sure he would I guess xd
Honestly, I get that Paimon being a bird makes sense for him to be Stolas's father, but it also gives me the feeling that all Goetia in Helluva Boss are gonna be depicted as birds and birds only. I have a fanfiction I'm writing where it portrays some non-bird Goetian demons with some antagonistic roles, and although it is fan-canon at best, I'm hoping it won't come off as a sore thumb with the upcoming canon lore.
@@elizabethlee2136 Then I'm wondering if I should even finish it then. I'd want to, but only because it's still on my mind and has some great ideas in it.
@@chadwolfius3620 I was thinking the same thing. You could for friends. Or reskin it as original. I wanted to do something about Stollas during the Great flood, and his bio dad being alive might be amazing. Considering the whole bronze age collapse. And Stollas learning magic from beasts and not demons.
@@elizabethlee2136 I think I will keep it as fan-canon and label it as such should more change come to the main-canon, but not disregard Paimon either, as he's not present in my fanfic but can be name-dropped if necessarily.
I'm one of those lowly Genshin Impact players and until today I had no idea Paimon is a demon name. And I'm confused every time I hear thay name and it's not spoken in a high-pitched voice by a character that refers to herself in third person.
It may be a stretch, but since there is no relation at all between Stolas and Paimon on ars goetia and such, be it appearance or powers, I will make my head canon that Paimon is Stolas father and was revealed on fathers day only because "pai" means father in portuguese.... maybe he is even BOTH Stolas father and mother... so his pai and mom... ^w^
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I think paimon takes akin to Greek mythology as viv has said that other religions will also be used and he could be that as the first is a hydra try to split and maybe the ram Is a demonic capricorn and the eye is an overseer for the humans
Dont really have any evidence for this but the elephant form could be a reference to girimehkala a demon from Sri Lankan mythology. I think it could be possible but honestly the only reason I think this is because girimehkala is the only elephant demon I'm familiar with so it could go either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I want it to be known, the Ars Goetia wasn't just a book of demons, it was a book of angles as well which included Lucifer and Michael as to notable figures.
That didnt seem orderly and if it wasnt a recognizable reference to his origins...It might not be a major pattern at all for Paimon... maybe its his own overwhelming power trying to organize itself into a stable form, eventually sucumbing to Paimon resuming control of himself as he apears 'in the flesh'. An exaggerated version of how Stolas manifested on earth that one time. Raw demonic power with animal aspects.
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In the pilot of hazbin hotel there's a goat figure demon with lucifer in the intro maybe that's him in full reveal
Paimons first for was a hydra, the guardian of the underworld. Maybe helpful?
I don't recall the "legend" of King Solomon commanding demons, let alone having them (gag) "help build the Holy temple of God".
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I’m really hoping episode 1 of season 2 explores Stolas’ backstory, like how he got married to Stella, were him and Stella ever in love, and why is he so fascinated with imps?
I really love that idea, because I have been wondering the same questions since like the “Loo Loo Land” episode came out. I also like to see if we meet Stolas’ mother because I think Stolas was a total mama’s boy growing up.
@@lovelymuffin1191 Just like Alastor probably was?
I think there's something special about blitz to Stolas, not just imps.
@@lovelymuffin1191 @TheFatPiranhaPlant , they where in love at one point, stolas said so in ep2 but after a while him and Stella grew apart and the relationship started becoming something he didn't want
he did love her but his concept of what love is now is screwed up, and that's why it's been hard for him to actually connect with blitzo, along with his baggage but that's a whole nother story
You Took the words right out of my mouth I am dying to find out all of this!!
my other biggest question is will stolitz become a ship again?…after what happened in episode 7?😔
It would make sense if Paimon being a strict royal traditionalist loyal to Lucifer is what caused Stolas to rebel against that by loving an imp. Paimon being a not so great father may also be why Stolas is trying to be a good dad to Octavia.
Isn’t paimon the emergency food from gen shin impact?
@@Broomer52 maybe it has something to do with painon acting as a god of familias, but I never played Geshin impact, so I don’t really know much about the lore, sorry.
@@Broomer52 but Stolas IS a snob, Blitzo being the exception, he literally calls Millie and Moxie “littler one” then dismisses them with a careless look. If it weren’t for Blitzo being associated with them, he wouldn’t care if they died. He wouldn't have saved them in truth seekers if Blitzo wasn’t there. He those not even register their existence.
@@Broomer52 wait, the game has micro transactions? Well good for you then, for dodging that bullet.
@@Amadeo790 had stolos not intervened when he did, then the agents
Would have definitely gotten their hands on that book of his, so if he’s not going to lift a finger to save the lives of Meir imps, then he could at least do it for the book.
Paimon is said to offer familiars I.E. Animal companions for Magic practitioners. So, the various animal images we see before Paimon appears could unmanifested versions of some of the familiars he can create for those who summon him.
So he is a lord of familiars?
@@kevinkocher9347 I think he can just offer them, not particulary a lord of them.
@@kevinkocher9347 Piamon teaches all arts and sciences and other secret things. He also is supposed to have a great booming voice that roars when he appears.
@@victoryangel29 I was referring to his abilities demons who are good at the mastered Magic's and abilities often times have the titles referencing what they can and can't do
@@vinni3bobinnie511 i was referencing abilities
King Paimon is known to sometimes grant the summoner familiars that will teach the summoner Science, Knowledge, and Hidden Locations. I feel that the different shapes that he takes could be the different types of the familiars that King Paimon would give the summoner when they ask for knowledge.
I kinda had this ideal for an episode of Blitz early attempts to access the living world by offering his services as a familiar to a witch. That he could stay in the living world to kill humans for his clients, but his witch mistress was too demanding to deal with and Blitz being Blitz runs off. However one of the times he does return to earth she finds him again and tries to submit him back into her service but a fight ensures between her and the IMP Gang.
@@jordantucker9799 That would be entertaining to watch.
Theory Comes In! If this guy is Stolas’ father, how much u wanna bet that he put Stolas in a arranged marriage? And this brings us back to episode 2 when Stolas try to talk to his daughter, he was struggling to get his words out when in reality he was trying to find to tell her that they were set up. Sounds a bit far off but, I feel like it kinda makes sense, ya know.
It would make a lot of sense in why stoles is married to his wife,even though he's gay
@@stoopidbunnybo185 or bi. We don't fully know what Stolas is.
I agree
Hmmmm $5
What you mean "if"? This guy is Stolas's father it was confirmed
In the wiki it's said that before paimon some demons with instruments go first so I think that the 4 shapes he took could represent that as 3/4 of the forms he took are related to sounds and noises. Dragons are (among other things)known for their loud roars, goats have horns that were used as instruments, elephants use their trunks for trumpeting and bats use echolocation. I could find an excuse for the other animals under the bat but I'd be happy to see anyone else's idea about them.
Yeah but that's the wiki viv confirmed in a stream none of the stuff in the wikis arent true
Paimon looks so regally badass! i can't wait for episode 1 of season 2! however i'm also wondering if Stolas's mom will make an appearance, and i'm also wondering if Paimon will hear about Stolas and Blitz and if he does will Paimon think the same way everyone else in Hell now does? by that i mean Paimon might also think of Stolas as an embarrassment to the Goetia family name.
Hmmmmmmm. I just had an interesting thought. Paimon is reported in the Ars Goetia to know all the worldly secrets, and will answer any question asked on him by his summoner honestly. The events of hell aren't "worldly" obviously, but if he knows so much, I wonder if Paimon could guess or assume with a high degree of accuracy whether Blitzo and Stolas will work together, be happy, have a future, etc. It'd be interesting if instead of being disapproving, while not being entirely approving per se, maybe we get the hint, whether he offers a subtle clue to Blitzo or Stolas, or if it's just for us the audience to know, that Blitzo and Stolas will probably work it all out and be just fine.
I think we can all agree that we did NOT expect to see Stolas' father on Father's Day, not that I'm complaining, just surprised.
So apparently this guy is named King Paimon, another member of the Ars Goetia, which are also known as 72 Pillars of Lemegeton. Paimon is Stolas’ father and Paimon has multiple titles, those being "Master of Infernal Ceremonies, Great King of Hell, Lucifer's Most Obedient, Demon of Love and Chaos, and Pale King".
Last guy I know who got the "Pale king" title was a sh*tty dad.
Sorry, I'm still waiting for Silksong
“Demon of Love” is an interesting title
@@themissakura599 More like, he believed that what he was doing was the only solution given that the Radiance was infecting everyone. Plus, it is surprising to me that no one actually talks about some of the other bugs that ended up doing much worse things than the Pale King.
@@jcmahrt5100 Agreed, he tried to save his kingdom while someone like soul master only tried to save himself.
But he's still a bad father considering he let thousands of his inborn children in the abyss to be filled with void and then discarded. And by instilling a feeling in PK, their sacrifice was seemingly for naught.
That's no dad of the year in my book, even if he had good intentions.
@@themissakura599 yeah, though, we don't actually know how he treated the Hollow Knight or his daughter. Chance and circumstance just really screwed over everyone, and while he wasn't exactly a good father, that didn't mean that he was actually seeking to be a father, from what I understand, he needed a way to quickly seal away the Radiance and infection, and seeing as insects can have a lot of kids, it was the only way for him to find that one which would be able to seal away the two threats to his kingdom and people. Plus, we don't actually know how he felt when he did the deed, so he probably regretted that he had to do it. Not to mention that I think those kids of his were already made with a bit of void already.
I’m just hoping that Stolas father isn’t like “bad” and by that I mean like he’s actually a good father and cares for his son in his “own” way in doing so... and that there are some things that Stolas learned from him in a useful way at least
Edit: I know there in hell people but there’s certain levels of bad that go on down there... depending on the power and who that demon is. It all comes down to how they interact with other characters!
Yeah, I hope so too.
@@black_nerdy Another cliche
All demons are bad people.
@@mancave10369 Yeah you’re right. Another cliche!
@@The_Practical_Daydreamer then why do you watch this?
Season 2 is definitely starting out with some Stolas lore. Pretty much all the teasers we've gotten have pointed in that direction.
-Baby Stolas gif
-Andrealphus, Stolas' "shitty brother-in-law" according to Viv
-and now the gif of Paimon
Brother in law means he’s Stella’s brother lol can’t wait to see why he’s so shitty
One of the big things I remember about Paimon was that he knows all secrets. If that’s incorporated into the Helluva Boss character he may have known about Stolas’ true feelings on his marriage or his affair before it was brought to light. Could be interesting maybe.?
That's cool though it might be implemented as he can only so it to the person he locks eyes with
I was just thinking, and indeed I said it in a comment above, whether the question of "Does Stolas and Blitzo's relationship have a leg to stand on, and will they work out as a couple" count as a secret, and thus could Paimon know the answer, or at least guess it with a high degree of accuracy.
He's here, He's there, He's everywhere. Who you gonna call, @@yourpsychicfriendfredbear
Yes
Well. He sure knew about Stolas' true feelings about Stella.
something i noticed with the last transformation is that the "bat" heavily resembles a seraphim angel, one of the highest ranking angels in real life lore.
Interestingly apaprently the Ars Goetia was quite vagu on Paimon, describing him as only a really regal, beautiful person riding a crowned camel. So it's possible the show is going with the ida that Paimon doesn't have a set form, currently. I also wodner if they'll incorporate the camel in any way.
It looks absolutely stunning if this what all the delays were for then it may actually be worth the wait.
It want unfortunately
@@enderwalkgang i think it will be worth it
@@Fire157_ no I mean this isn't what the delays were for
Nah, Paimon will be in season 2, while Ep. 8 was confirmed to have no real narrative changes and looks to just be a filler Hellhound party. (sorry for the negativity, but I'm still annoyed that they wasted Verosika in the Lust ring episode of all things). The delays are likely because they're trying to include Vivzie's "die young" music video and the blue wolf and are thus facing legal issues.
@@Wanten-the-stormtrooper What do you mean by the ‘Die Young’ music video? What does that have to do with the delays? Genuinely asking, not trying to be rude, I’m not really aware of anything outside of what I get from UA-cam so I’m not sure what is going on with the series.
Hopefully he’s a better bad in the show than in the fan art but he looks amazing
I’ve got a strong feeling that the new season is going to be more scary.
So the Goetia have emergency food, nice.
Yummy Paimon
tasty
If you listen closely, you can hear the Genshin Impact stans trembling at the mention of Paimon
As ar 57 player, 100% agree
@@w__w7256 BAHAHAA
please everyone is saying paimon and im just sitting here like😭
I'm actually thinking of Paimon from Hereditary 😭
Lol
I can’t hear you say paimon over and over again without thinking of genshin impact
We ate Paimon as emergency food and now look where that got us.
Paimon being the most loyal to Lucifer just added another fascinating layer to this already complex story. And I'm hyped!
Also, he looks like the game Hollow Knight just spat him out, and I am loving it
I like to think that whenever something is given as a small hint towards hellava boss or hazbin hotel, vivienne medrano watches us all make theory’s and guess stuff and us end up being wrong
I love Paimon's design. However, as a Genshin player, I have to try and separate the two characters.
Same
Yeah, thankfully this one doesn't look like emergency food- so just remember ones emergency food and the others a demon king lol
@@Sarah-tf6vx he is a bird though
I was looking for this comment lmao, but same
@@Sarah-tf6vx One's emergency food, one's a snacc
I am so excited to see some BG on Stolas. I have a feeling he takes more after his mom.
I just hope Stolas's father Paimon isn't to harsh on him, I hope he cares for his son.
I knew there was something wrong with Emergency Food but not to THIS extent! What's he now, a trap AND a dilf!?
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Genshin Impact fans will understand.
Our dear emergency food was a dilf all along and we didn't even notice.
That floating pet was an act all along huh
Glad I'm not the only one. Can't see Stolas' dad without hearing emergency food voice
Lmao
You don't know how far I had to scroll. For the last time, Paimon is not emergency food!
King paimon also has relations to money,power and spirituality. I feel like he might be q strict but loving dad but also understands that stoles might be struggling with his lust or love of blitz. Also I want to note that the marks around king paimon's yes are the marks of his summoning circle thing.
One thing we know for sure,
He is..
*EMERGENCY FOOD!!*
By the way, there was actually something in the trailer that says something about Fizzaroli's relationship with Asmodeus, but you have to look really hard.
King Paimon? You mean emergency food?
Reading these comments as somebody who thinks of Paimon as a little flying creature with food obsession and a high pitched voice is really funny.
When I saw that Stolas’s father’s name was King Paimon, I instantly thought of Paimon from Genshin Impact! 😭
high powerful goetia demons seem to be composed of multiple animals like asmodeus have a ram and bull and Paimon has a ram too as well as An eyeball bat and an elephant. Weird they both have a ram huh?
I like Paimons Design, He has an
Cool Design, Also with the Name Paimon,
Its Time to Reference another Paimon!
*EHE TA NANDIOU!?*
your lucky he didn't hear that
@@rmoryjamessolis4283 Oh If
Paimon {Stolases Father}
Heard Me Say that he has
the same Name as Emergency
Food, He would Kill Me!
@@MollyDollyy774 no when you go down there your soul will be tortured and probably eaten by him but still tortured
I believe there is no real conflict between the system since it could circumstantial in that Piamon may out rank Asmodues in the family and the matters of the Goetia but when it comes to matters of the Lust ring Asmodeus is authority over the other Goetia.
Plot Twist !: What if there are two different Asmodeus?
• Asmodeus Senior: Emperor of Lust Ring
• Asmodeus Junior: Son of Senior. One of Ars Goetia Kings (the one from Ozzie episode)
What if the Seven Deadly Sins have the rank of Emperors and Lucifer is the supreme Emperor.
@@Mirartium736 The funny thing is that in the real Ars Goetia, Asmodeus is called Asmoday and some believe that they're
two separate demons and that Asmoday is the son of Asmodeus.
:Edit: I was reading about Asmodeus because I couldn't remember where I heard that and now I'm not so sure, the closest I could find to what I said
was this.
"According to the Kabbalah and the school of Rashba, Agrat Bat Mahlat, a succubus, mated with King David and bore a cambion son Asmodeus, king of demons."
So basically Asmodeus being the half demon child of king David. So uh just ignore everything before the edit, I'm sorry. T_T
@@Rayne2221 Exactly!
Stolas dad looks like a hollow knight character
Stolas' dad: "Ehe te nandayo!"
The FBI agent keeping track of my search history must be very worried about me suddenly spamming Ars Goetia searches
I'm really hoping, even though it won't happen, and would make no narrative sense, that Paimon has a super deep voice, and intimidating mannerism, but is otherwise exactly like stolas.
I can't wait for the Goetia to come more into focus for the series. As much as I prefer the hellborn and imps, this whole aristocrat angle adds an extra layer to the plot, especially the theory that there are 9 families in the Goetia corresponding with the number of kings. Considering that Paimon and his relationship to Stolas have also been revealed, I find it more and more likely that Andrealphus married a sibling of Stolas than he's Stella's brother. Will Paimon send his son-in-law to keep Stolas reigned in/give Stolas an example of "proper" Goetia behaviour? Or will Andrealphus interfere to curry Paimon's favour?
One thing I'm quite interested in, is whether or not the series will include the four cardinal spirits/kings that are described in the Lesser Key of Solomon: Gaap (who is actually one of the 72 goetia demons, number 33, but not the others), Ziminiar, Corson and Amaymon, and how they'd be included.
If there are indeed a king per family as the above theory states, then these additional 4 would bring that number up to 13, which seems bit more ominous to me, based on old superstition.
That's true. While the numbers 12 and 14 symbolize fullness and God, the number 13 is their mockery, including 13 Illuminati families. Hell's 13 kings led by Emperor Lucifer would be interesting
Just a theory but the 4 headed dragon could be Leviathan(since a 7 headed dragon would be Lucifer), the elephant is Behemoth(it has been depicted as such) and the vulture could be Ziz a giant bird that does appear in Psalms. Keep in mind Paimon has knowledge of the Earth,Sea,and Air, as well as anything hidden so it could be reasonable that he's either their creator or manifestation.
Granted that Leviathan, Behemoth, and Ziz are creations of God according to Jewish myth, I think that instead Paimon might just be able to summon familiars that represent the three beasts. Cause Paimon has a thing for knowledge and it could be that for the three familiar versions of the three beasts, you would essentially gain knowledge about the land, sea, or sky.
Ah yes, *the emergency food-*
That was my first thought-
@@leafiefrogg943
*Chicken nuggets*
Best Father’s Day gift ever!!!
To me, Ozzie looks like a peacock. Peacocks are known as a symbol of love, that’s maybe why he has feathers in the back. As referring to when they were making Ozzie’s feet; Maybe they went with him having shoes for his outfit, and without him wearing them, it maybe adds nothing compared to the shoes.
ozzie is a rooster not a peacock, also he represents lust not love
My guess is that stolas’s dad and brother in law are gonna try and persuade and convince stolas to stop seeing blitzo, and after what happened in episode 7 and spending some family bonding time he might start to consider it. Now here’s where it can go in two directions.
1: stolas after a lot of thinking and convincing from him dad and brother decides to stop seeing blitzo and act more like the prince he is meant to be, blitzo would then eventually find out about it and at first he might think that this is for the better only to later realize with some advice from millie , moxxie, and maybe even loona that he can’t live without stolas in his life and goes to reconcile with him only to be shut out and rejected by the new stolas. And then they could make a whole plot where blitzo tries to bring the old stolas back and while having some interference from stolas’s wife, brother in law, and dad he will ultimately succeed. And who knows they might even pull a twist where Octavia helps blitzo in some way.
2: dew to what happened in episode 7 stolas might have a moment of weakness and consider it only to reinforce his feelings for blitzo and reject their demands. This would then lead to them going after blitzo and his friends because if there’s no blitzo to get in the way then stolas doesn’t have a reason to reject them anymore. And who knows they could pull an unexpected twist and get help from someone they would have never expected to help them before
"And who knows they might even pull a twist where Octavia helps blitzo in some way."
I've been thinking Octavia and Blitzo are two characters who could use some unlikely bonding tbh. Oct clearly dislikes Blitzo, but mostly it seems to be for the fact she thinks he'll tear their family apart and take her father's attention away from her, as well as not understanding why her dad's putting most of his chips on the table for an imp. If somehow those two could hash it out, I could see Oct realizing that Stolas and Blitzo actually truly care deeply for each other, maybe even love each other (or getting there at least.), and that Stolas needs Blitzo in his life. Furthermore, whether it's Blitzo or Stolas who tells her, Oct should learn that Stolas will never abandon or lose her father's affections. Hell, I could see Blitzo telling her how much Stolas truly adores her, never not talking about her even when they're together type of thing. I could easily see Octavia becoming an ally to Stolas and Blitzo if she believes in love and not coming between what's going to happen anyway, as well as learning that Blitzo isn't so bad a guy.
It would also be cool if Blitzo and Octavia got to bond since that brings Oct closer to meeting Loona. I dunno I just feel like those two would be friends and goodness knows those two both probably need more friends. Hell depending on how serious Blitzo and Stolas get by the end of this series they could theoretically be step sisters, and by then they'd probably have one hell of a strong bond with each other.
@@gregvs.theworld451 I agree wholeheartedly with your idea. I think that if the first option I gave happened then maybe it could be the thing that makes her realize blitzo isn’t a bad guy. Like she notices how differently her father is acting and spends even less time away from her now that he’s taking his duties seriously, and maybe even overhear a conversation her mom is having with striker or some other bounty hunter or assassin telling them to go kill blitzo and the others so there’s no chance stolas could or would ever go back to him. Then she would either try to go tell her dad OR sneak out of the mansion and go find blitzo to warn him of what her mom is planning. Who knows her mom might even say she’s a lost cause and try to have her killed to, that would then give Octavia the chance to live with IMP and bond with blitzo and maybe loona. I know a lot of people want those two to become friends even though there’s a bit of an age gap
@@Flugel_Halogen Is there a bit of an age gap? They seemd both teenage/young adult to me. How big an age gap is there exactly?
@@gregvs.theworld451 Octavia is 17 and loona is 22
I hope they make a snarky joke a bit about how Paimon is an emergency food in another universe :D
Man, I remember thinking Stolas was just gonna be a gag character back in the pilot and episode 1. I'm really glad that they didn't go that direction. Stolas is the most intriguing character to me, aside from Blitz.
I'm excited to see paimon's reaction to finding out his son has been sleeping with an imp and the Blitzo has the family book
He is clearly emergence food
2:55 speaking of Beal I really want him to have a body similar to angel dust with a cloak covering it.
Whoa! This is my first time seeing you're imp form. It looks good!
i love how you spend so much time finding lore so we don't have to
Love your videos :D
Paimon said sacrifice your wallet for more primogems.
Funny fact: paimons human form looks very feminine also he maybe loyal to Lucifer but we all know noone is more loyal to him than Lilith
Minus the fact it's biblically Canon she's slept with many other demons and spawned the incubus and succubus
a man with a woman face
This paimon definitely is not emergency food
If you try to bite him, you surely die instantly
@
If he’s not in the pride ring reaching him might be completely impossible
This is the first i’ve heard of Paimon and all I can think of is flying emergency rations.
All the Genshin impact fans did a double take when they heard his name, i just know it.
yeah
Ye ah
Woo! I was correct!
Stolas and ars goatia is very interesting but i have a theory we're ars goatia are split up into different rings to serve the different prince's of the rings. This means they might just be there to help and assist the prince's with ruling their rings. Or maybe they only serve under Lucifer however still obeying the ring prince's due to power. Idk just a thought.
I imagine he would be very cool and collected when addressing his son's actions with Blitz, but when he learns about the business with the grimoire he acts like Homer Simpson and chokes Stolas.
Okay that was very well done, and certainly makes watching the series more entertaining for it.
All the Genshin Impact people saying Paimon reminds them of that and I'm over here thinking of Piemon / Piedmon from Digimon. Creepy clown digimon that turned everyone into keychains.
As a Genshin Impact fan, I'll try not to laugh when Paimon's name is mentioned 💀
Imo Paimon should be the ruler of the gluttony ring
@@MarshmallowFrost No that's Beelzebub
@@Zak-tk8wv it just a joke 🌚
@@Zak-tk8wv it was a joke lol, cuz Paimon in Genshin is always hungry
@@MarshmallowFrost 💀 TRUEE
Season 2 comes out on July 30th?!?!?!?! OMG THATS AWESOME. ON MY BIRTHDAYYY
Me a genshin player " !gasp! Paimon!😲😲😲😲🧐"
At first I was wondering why Asmodeus and Stolas have similar faces.
Cute adorable Paimon: 😐
King Paimon: ✨
Everyone's talking about Paimon the demon or Paimon the flying emergency food, but no one's talking about the fact that if Paimon, Osmodeus, and Stolas exist then the rest of King Solomon's demons also exist including: Morax, Barbatos, Bael/Baal, and Buer
Darn it genshin
*Genshin players are in very big confusion right now*
yeah i was confused too
Stolas dad is emergency food
I know it's probably never going to happen, but it would be funny if the show at least winked an ackowledgement of Paimon's role in the film Hereditary. Are the demons of hell aware the humans put them in movies? What do they think of their portrayal? Is pazzuzu (the demon from the exorcist movie) in the show? Does get mocked for his film portrayal or does he brag that he is a film star? Does Asmodeous know he was technically in an episode of puppet history? Idk just something to consider I guess.
If Paimon is the father of the Goetia in this universe maybe the Goetia are all different species, and Paimon has several different forms, shifting into the Owl form when presented with Stolas to address his owl son.
Seeing Paimon is really confusing me because every time I read it, I think of an annoying small person that floats in the air while yelling about food
Exactly!
I think paimon's forms are that of the less notable constellations. For example, the dragon one is most likely hydra. The bull looking one is probably centaurus, and the bird one is most likely corvus. The elephant might represent the elephant trunk nebula inside of the cepheus constellation
The politics of the demon nobility is really interesting, I wonder if that will play a part in Hazbin Hotel? Charlie's redemption plan could be a good plot point for a hostile takeover as they've lost faith in Lucifer?
I have a dictionary of demons and stolas' description in the book is:
The thirty sixth demon of the Goetia Stolas is a great Prince with twenty six legions of infernal spirits in his service. He appears in both 'Scots discoverie of witchcraft' and 'Wierus's pseudomonarchia Daemonum'. According to these texts, he teaches astronomy and has absoute knowledge of the virtues of precious stones and herbs. Although he has he power to take human shape, he manifests as a night raven. The Goetia of Dr Rudd gives his name as stolus, saying that he can be constrained in the name of the angel Menadel. According to the book of incantations, he is a great and powerful Prince appearing in he shape of a mighty raven.
The description for paimon was this (bit with ☠ emojis are his role in the Goetia if you just want to read that, his took so fucking long to type):
Also spelled paymon. A demon of the order of Dominions, Paimon is believed to be one of four demons who preside over the cardinal directions. His domain is he West. In the Goetia, Paimon is listed as the nineth of seventy two demons. According to this text, when paimon is summoned, he is preceded by a host of spirits in the form of men playing trumpets , cymbals, and diverse other musical instruments. If this were not enough to herald his appearance, paimon himself is said to manifest with a mighty roar of his booming voice. He comes astride a camel, and he appears as a man bearing a glorious crown upon his head. Wierus's pseudomonarchia Daemonum further says that he has a ery effeminate face, while plancy's Dictionaire infernal.describes him as a man with a woman's face. All sources suggest that, of the various Goetia demons, Paimon has some of the strongest loyalties to Lucifer . Paimons voice is unnaturally loud, and he will continue to speak at such an ear-splitting volume that the summoner will not be able to understand him, unless he commands the demon to alter his speech. when called upon, Painmon can teach knowledge of the arts as well as the sciences. He can also reveal he true answers to such mysteries as the nature of the earth , the location of the Abyss, and he origin of the wind. In addition to being a veritable font of knowledge, Paimon is credited with the ability to confer dignities. He provides familiar spirits and can be sent against his enemies. He reportedly binds any that resist him in his own chains. His abode is said to be in the northwest, where he rules over no fewer than 200 legions of spirits. Some of these are from the order of angels and some from the orders of powers. Paimon himself is said to belong either to the order of Dominions or the order of cherubim. He responds favorably to consecration and libations. In his 'Discoverie of witchcraft' Scot translates the Latin word for libations instead as sacrifices, lending a somewhat nefarious air to the operations involving Paimon.
In the Welsh grimoire known as the book of incantations, his name is spelled Parmon. This text also notes he obedience of Lucifer, which is given context in the French 'Livre des esperitz' where it is clear Lucifer is his direct superior in the hierarchy of spirits. Here texts agree that Paimon is so loud he can be impossible to understand. As a solution, the book of Oberon suggests giving him a slip of paper upon which to write his messages. Many grimoires identify Paimon as a good source for familiar spirits but the book of incantations openly states that he can bind humans to the magicians will as well, effecting a magickal enslavement. According to the book of oberon, he can additionally make all the fishes in the sea obedient.
Paimon sometimes manifests in the company of two lesser infernal Kings. In the pseudomonarchia Daemonum, these are names Beball and Abalam. In the Goetia, they are called Labal and Abal. The book of incantations calls these Babel and Abatano . When he manifests with these two Kings, Paimon only brings along twenty five legions of lesser spirits , at least according to the pseudomonarchia.
☠☠☠☠☠☠ In this text his name is spelled paymon. Paimon also appears as the nineth demon named in the Goetia of Dr Rudd. Here, he is accorded the rank of King and he is said to rule of 25 legions of spirits.☠☠☠☠☠
This text associates him with the order of powers. The angel Hasiel has the power to constrain him. In the clavis inferni, it is Raphael who has power over Paimon. In this text, the demon king is also associated with the element of water and an animal like a manicure.
Paimon also appears in the sacred magic of Abramelin the mags. Here, he is one of the eight sub prince's who oversee all of he spirits summoned on the third day of the holy guardian angel operation. He is attributed with the power to cause visions, raise the dead, give familiars, and summon spirits in diverse forms. He can further answer any questions about the past, present, or future and hebcan make the magician fly. According to both Mathers and Agrippa, Paimon is equated with the fallen angel Azazel in rabbinical lore.
Assuming higher ranked individuals will have more demon forms? Lucifer having the most, princes of rings likely gaining a specific demon form upon promotion, then demons like paimon having around 4?, demons like stolas having at least 1, etc etc all the way down to imps having 0 (assuming since they can’t even transform into human disguises lmaoo) Would make the most sense if this is what the hierarchy in hell is based on.
Omg this makes sense. Paimon is loyal to Lucifer. God this is not good. Hopefully Paimon can understand what Stolas is going through
The different forms seemingly are his forms at his children resemble like stolas has 4 eyes like piamon’s shadow forms but with a face like paimon’s owl forms face so the forms paimon shows before his owl form seemingly are forms at his children look like as paimon said he has so many kids he literally had to ask the butler imp what child stolas was
Paimon is one of the few demons who is FULLY loyal to lucifer
Actually, most demons don't even follow him even tho he is the king of hell (or satan in some versions, like the binsfeld one)
Demons care for themselves and want to have fun and do whatever they please, a lot of demons try to gather territory as a way to have power too
Anyway xd....
What i mean with fully is that
Even demons that follow him
Don't fully care about his goals or orders, some only care about their own personal goals
Like mammon wanting riches
Not caring if they are in hell or heaven as long as he has then
Others like Moloch just wants to destroy stuff couse fun B>
Even Belial (Which name means
"The one with no master")
Who was created shortly after lucifer and it's usually presented as his righthand man would backstab him and all his demon partners if it resulted in an easy way back to heaven without any kind of redemption involved o_o (oc this would work as a backout plan in case things went south but like...He's more than ready to do it xddd)
Poor lucifer xD
If I remember correctly, Paimon has a servant who is known as the most Devoted to Lucifer, so maybe Paimon isn't the only demon who is loyal to him.
Would Satan be Loyal to Lucifer
@@null9932well...
In versions where they are two different beings they usually have this dynamic where one is the king of hell and it's armies and the other works as his second in command
So like idk
Sure he would
I guess xd
@@NastyJuggler Reminds me of Vader and Palpatine
Yep
Honestly, I get that Paimon being a bird makes sense for him to be Stolas's father, but it also gives me the feeling that all Goetia in Helluva Boss are gonna be depicted as birds and birds only. I have a fanfiction I'm writing where it portrays some non-bird Goetian demons with some antagonistic roles, and although it is fan-canon at best, I'm hoping it won't come off as a sore thumb with the upcoming canon lore.
It will, but all great fandoms have old fan-canon. You should read star wars fiction from the eighties and oughts
@@elizabethlee2136 Then I'm wondering if I should even finish it then. I'd want to, but only because it's still on my mind and has some great ideas in it.
@@chadwolfius3620 I was thinking the same thing. You could for friends. Or reskin it as original. I wanted to do something about Stollas during the Great flood, and his bio dad being alive might be amazing. Considering the whole bronze age collapse. And Stollas learning magic from beasts and not demons.
@@elizabethlee2136 I think I will keep it as fan-canon and label it as such should more change come to the main-canon, but not disregard Paimon either, as he's not present in my fanfic but can be name-dropped if necessarily.
yes
This is going to be interesting to see stolas's father acts when he finds out that his son be sleeping with imp
Hearing demon names in other shows after playing Genshin Impact and Obey Me makes it funny to me
Love your vids man😁
I’ll be so upset if Paimon is just a cliche, bad father. I hope his character is actually thought out and well written.
Sorry dude he's also a bad father are you still mad? XD
@@anthonyclay8404 not really surprised tbh, that’s just Viv writing. Father bad, gay son good
@@brooksburson2641 Lol that's one way of putting it
@@anthonyclay8404 it’s very exaggerated, but yeah. She could’ve done something a little different. But hey, he’s still a cool character imo
@@brooksburson2641 I mean it's hell so of course there would be some bad fathers in hell
I'm one of those lowly Genshin Impact players and until today I had no idea Paimon is a demon name. And I'm confused every time I hear thay name and it's not spoken in a high-pitched voice by a character that refers to herself in third person.
It may be a stretch, but since there is no relation at all between Stolas and Paimon on ars goetia and such, be it appearance or powers, I will make my head canon that Paimon is Stolas father and was revealed on fathers day only because "pai" means father in portuguese.... maybe he is even BOTH Stolas father and mother... so his pai and mom... ^w^
I think he was the one that gave Stolas his book possibly as a gift or a family heirloom.
If you knew me before my 20s, you never actually knew , you knew season 1 me, we were severely underfunded and the writing team was going through a lot
I think paimon takes akin to Greek mythology as viv has said that other religions will also be used and he could be that as the first is a hydra try to split and maybe the ram Is a demonic capricorn and the eye is an overseer for the humans
Dont really have any evidence for this but the elephant form could be a reference to girimehkala a demon from Sri Lankan mythology. I think it could be possible but honestly the only reason I think this is because girimehkala is the only elephant demon I'm familiar with so it could go either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I like your imp form it looks really 😊
What is emergency food doing in Helleva boss???
Another theory could be that the demons are trying to get angelic weapons, possibly to even overthrow heavens government
I cannot take the name king *Paimon* seriously.
This guy makes a 9 minute video over a 5 second video, what a legend
Stoles father looks so cool. I can see how stoles looks like him. The eyes.
I want it to be known, the Ars Goetia wasn't just a book of demons, it was a book of angles as well which included Lucifer and Michael as to notable figures.
That didnt seem orderly and if it wasnt a recognizable reference to his origins...It might not be a major pattern at all for Paimon... maybe its his own overwhelming power trying to organize itself into a stable form, eventually sucumbing to Paimon resuming control of himself as he apears 'in the flesh'. An exaggerated version of how Stolas manifested on earth that one time. Raw demonic power with animal aspects.
Me a genshin fan reading the title:
Emergency food?