+4 dodge/+6stamina purple gems are phase 6.... if i'm not mistaken sir. Also, I would replace enchant on boots with stam. boar speed does not stack with pursuit of justice talent. most standard tanking specs have it
Threat to gloves has long been deemed useless as it is additive and not multiplicative and the gain is minimal vs other potential enchants. I feel you're very much missing the point that heroics are on a daily lockout for putting so much stuff that's from heroic only in your pre-bis list. Ideally there would be two lists. What you can honestly farm for in repeatable, non-heroic dungeons, reps, etc. And then what heroics you should be looking at to do on a daily basis to get the next level of bis gear. Kara and heroic epics are pretty much equivalent power, so you're not meant to be in heroic purples to go into raids. You're literally expected to be in dungeon blues.
I mean the heroic gear is not only prebis its bis for quite a while. Girdle of valorous deeds is bis for good while. Not that hard to do heroics if you use some quest blues to replace the ones on seventy upgrades he had as prebis. I been doing heroics in classic TBC since 3 days ago without issues and Im not even uncrushable yet.
Paladin tank is the hardest tank class to gear in TBC and that's why I love it. With the badges at release it will be easy, but remove these items and you are f-ed. I remember it took me a good 2 or 3 weeks 8h+ farming at level 70 to get the required pre raid gear. :)
Few quibbles here and there, but overall this is the best prot pally TBC video I've seen. there is *so much* bad info out there, it's refreshing to see something that I basically agree with
So many heroics, I feel like if ur doing heroics ur rdy for kara.. To bad this is the only way to get cap.. Also are the red gems with stam dodge out? Thanks for the vid great work
I was under the impression pre raid bis didn’t include heroics? As you will be in Kara most likely before hcs? As for lot of people this won’t be viable straight away
I think people will want to min max as much as possible. But you're right, it is just about possible to get into raids in normal gear but it won't be comfortable
@@Chazit yeah I guess for tanks it will be different compared to dps, ret for example you get prebis from quests and a few dungeons! Great video though I’ll save this and look back to it :)
epics from heroics for pre raid?? wth is this, if by raid you mean SSC then ok. but not kara or gruul. heroics are harder than karazhan. its unrealistic to think you can get those heroic epics early, hell they may never drop and you can only run a heroic once a day. you dont seem to have mained prot pala troughout tbc, so you need to know that uncrushability is not important early FOR prot pala, its nice to have but a prot pala is not for main tanking a boss, because that would be gimping the raid, there's another tank for that. they are exponentialy better at off healing and aoe tanking boss mechanics. (crushing blows are from bosses only in raids for the initiate.) sure you can get uncrushable early by using things like colossus but then your HP is too low just like in this vid. until BT you go for Stam then armor, after the def cap for 73's, you want a lot of HP, like 14k+ self buffed, in order to survive tank busters in heroics and give your healer time in raids, mobs hit hard so none of that 25% 400 blocked from a 3 to 4k will matter. (100 on average). salv + sp power weapon is more than enough to hold threat. Heroics and Kara Adds in TBC hit for 3K to 4k on average AFTER damage reduction from 50% armor, and that's a lot, block rating becomes worthless here a faster weapon is not more threat for a pala, a pala is not a warrior, LC gavel is better because it has more stam you also get parried less as a bonus.
for weapon as alliance you can get Blade of the Archmage, which is same as Stormcaller for horde, 1.8 speed, its from Honor Hold rep vendor (exalted).
+4 dodge/+6stamina purple gems are phase 6.... if i'm not mistaken sir. Also, I would replace enchant on boots with stam. boar speed does not stack with pursuit of justice talent. most standard tanking specs have it
Threat to gloves has long been deemed useless as it is additive and not multiplicative and the gain is minimal vs other potential enchants.
I feel you're very much missing the point that heroics are on a daily lockout for putting so much stuff that's from heroic only in your pre-bis list. Ideally there would be two lists. What you can honestly farm for in repeatable, non-heroic dungeons, reps, etc. And then what heroics you should be looking at to do on a daily basis to get the next level of bis gear.
Kara and heroic epics are pretty much equivalent power, so you're not meant to be in heroic purples to go into raids. You're literally expected to be in dungeon blues.
I mean the heroic gear is not only prebis its bis for quite a while. Girdle of valorous deeds is bis for good while. Not that hard to do heroics if you use some quest blues to replace the ones on seventy upgrades he had as prebis. I been doing heroics in classic TBC since 3 days ago without issues and Im not even uncrushable yet.
@@rubengonzalez3222 Only mobs 3 levels higher can crush. Uncrushable is for raid boss tanking. It's not necessary for heroics or raid trash.
@@TheNebulose You act like I don't know that, but anyways just got girdle of valorous deeds :)
@@rubengonzalez3222 Grats. If you knew that then how are crushing blows relevant? I don't understand.
Really good guide man! Planning on leveling up & gearing up a prot paladin early in TBC myself so this was exactly what I needed :D
Paladin tank is the hardest tank class to gear in TBC and that's why I love it. With the badges at release it will be easy, but remove these items and you are f-ed. I remember it took me a good 2 or 3 weeks 8h+ farming at level 70 to get the required pre raid gear. :)
Few quibbles here and there, but overall this is the best prot pally TBC video I've seen. there is *so much* bad info out there, it's refreshing to see something that I basically agree with
Boars speed is usually useless because you will typically have pursuit of justice
This is a great guide! Would you be willing to do one on Ret and/or Holy?
I plan on doing both 👍🏻
Which kind of addon are u using to compare items and avoidance score/level?
Aldor? Scryers is better for the shoulder enchant? Def > Dodge
can you share the seventy upgrade link plz?
m'lord can we have the link to ur bis ! the way you have it shown in the video . great one very helpful !
the only way i could get avoidance that high is if i include holy shield AND redoubt. which puts me at 114.82%
So many heroics, I feel like if ur doing heroics ur rdy for kara.. To bad this is the only way to get cap.. Also are the red gems with stam dodge out? Thanks for the vid great work
Dodge and stam gems are purple and not released until phase 5.
Great Video, thanks so much for this. What program/addon/link are you using to view the gear in the video?
Glad you enjoyed it! The website is Seventyupgrades.com. Really useful website for building up item sets
@@Chazit Awesome, thanks!
very good guide, im already hyped for my pally
PoJ doesn't stack with other movement speed increases
link of seenty gear for see better the gear? pls
Tier helm and gloves are the typical meta for bonus
Pre raid bis meaning go run the pain in the ass heroics for your gear that wont drop.....
Alliance have the equivalent of Stormcaller from Honor's hold. The same thing just a different look and 2 stats off... [Blade of the Archmage]
I was under the impression pre raid bis didn’t include heroics? As you will be in Kara most likely before hcs? As for lot of people this won’t be viable straight away
I think people will want to min max as much as possible. But you're right, it is just about possible to get into raids in normal gear but it won't be comfortable
@@Chazit yeah I guess for tanks it will be different compared to dps, ret for example you get prebis from quests and a few dungeons! Great video though I’ll save this and look back to it :)
Great vidéo! A seventyupgrade link would have been awesome ;)
Does boars speed stack with pursuit of justice?
No
how do i calculate miss%
@xgetxsickx, look at defense, should prob be about 5%ish, then add 5% as mobs naturally have a 5% chance to miss. So it should be around 10% in total.
@@Tadpole952 thanks man
Regal nighrseye is not out in phase
Tip for recording: close chat apps with notifications (like bnet) ^^
Total avoidance. Nice 😎
epics from heroics for pre raid?? wth is this, if by raid you mean SSC then ok. but not kara or gruul. heroics are harder than karazhan.
its unrealistic to think you can get those heroic epics early, hell they may never drop and you can only run a heroic once a day.
you dont seem to have mained prot pala troughout tbc, so you need to know that uncrushability is not important early FOR prot pala, its nice to have but a prot pala is not for main tanking a boss, because that would be gimping the raid, there's another tank for that. they are exponentialy better at off healing and aoe tanking boss mechanics.
(crushing blows are from bosses only in raids for the initiate.)
sure you can get uncrushable early by using things like colossus but then your HP is too low just like in this vid. until BT you go for Stam then armor, after the def cap for 73's, you want a lot of HP, like 14k+ self buffed, in order to survive tank busters in heroics and give your healer time in raids, mobs hit hard so none of that 25% 400 blocked from a 3 to 4k will matter. (100 on average). salv + sp power weapon is more than enough to hold threat.
Heroics and Kara Adds in TBC hit for 3K to 4k on average AFTER damage reduction from 50% armor, and that's a lot, block rating becomes worthless here
a faster weapon is not more threat for a pala, a pala is not a warrior, LC gavel is better because it has more stam you also get parried less as a bonus.
Faster is better with seal of wisdom for quicker dungeon clears
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