Ur right dude the music sucks Haven't had time to redo vid, working on other stuff. But really if the video was that good and showed results I'd end up like Tom ogle
Oh I forgot to add, the 2 french compressed air car engine designs make 100mpg carbs obsolete. They have been buried also and president of tata motors assassinated for trying to produce them
@@johnironsmith4402 Hello John, first of all thank you for this video, it was very informative! Regarding your previous comment (and ignoring the french compressed air cars) I'll ask my question this way: I'm truely wondering if you have already tested this prototype and if so, if it would be worth my time to give it a go myself? Kindest regards and keep up the good work!
Smokey Yunick experiment with vapor carburetors in the late 70's or early 80's. He said that with the old formulated gas that modern cars with the advances they made to efficient and lighter weight car if they had vapor carburetors cars would be getting over a 100 miles per gallon. He said that in the Popular Science Magazine. Problem is, that the gas now does not have the energy content it use to have. I ordered a vapor carburetor system from a guy who advertised in Popular Science in the 1980"s. A genius mechanic friend of mine built it. He drove it to Myrtle Beach and back. He had to drive it on vapor because the high heat from the heated mixture of vapor melted his carburetor plastic float! You started the car on carburetor and switched over to gas when the heat exchanger heated the gas to vapor. I noticed from the plans that the inventor had to add a new feature to the heat exchanger, It was a Sludge Tank! Because the Gasoline People had add junk to the fuel. When the vapor cracked away from it, you had to have the sludge to drain from the heat exchanger. My inventor friend that built and drove it said that He took it off his truck. To experiment, He filled a milk jug with a gallon of gas and set it out in the sun. When no more would evaporate, He had a third of a jug full of something that would not burn if you stuck a blow torch in it. He did stick a blow torch in it. He said that the gas companies fixed it so the high mileage carburetors would no longer deliver high mileage! I remember in the early sixties that I bought an old Plumbers Blower Torch that use White Gas from amoco. I will it up with white high test gas and lite it off. The blow torch had a small chamber in the bottom that changed the gas to a vapor when heat by the flame chamber. The flame was feed by a very small pin hole. I set it on the tree stump and it has a pretty blue flame that sounded like a jet. It burned for hours! just a pretty blue flame. After my buddy told me about the junk in the gas, I went to the same Amoco station and bought the same high test from the same pump. Fill my Plumbers torch up and lite it off. When the pretty blue flame would burn for a minute and then black smoke would belch out until the trash in the gas unload and then the blue flame would start again. It did this like time work, over and over! The I came to the conclusion my inventor mechanic did. They Gas Companies had doped up the gas to kill vapor carburetor. The car manufactures made advances on the car engine to cover the gas chemists changes in the gas formula and add air pumps and catalyst converts to finish burning the gas that did not have time to burn in the cylinders. My air pump on my car locked down and was not pumping the air into the exhaust system and every time I started the car, black soot would blow out! Smokey Yunick was right, by changing the gas formula, High Mileage Carburetors would not work. I also noticed that Colman Gas Lanterns put on larger vapor chambers on to their lanterns to run this new gas. The heat chambers on the Old Colman Gas Lanterns were stopping up with this new junk in the gas.
I might have a cxouple of suggestions that will improve your setup. My brother and his friend made a headgasket with four sets of platinum points equally mounted around the cylinder. It was layered in between the gasket material like a circuit board. So instead of firing from the spark plug it fired from each set of points. The platinum points had no place to hold any carbon build up so would not foul out like a spark plug. and firing the gas mixture with four sets of spark burned the fuel vapor quicker and more completely.(old airplanes had two sparkplugs per cylinder) Giving an increase of power with less fuel consumtion and less emissions. My idea to add to this is to reduce fuel droplet size thus increasing surface area of the fuel by using an ultrasonic mister which instantly vaporizes a drop of liquid to a finer mist than a carburator is capable of. This should also increase power while decreasing consumption andEmmisions. The reason you do not see this gasket method of spark on the market now is a sparkplug company bought their patent. Their was a drawback to the design they had not worked out at the time and that was that the gasket was thicker and you had to torque it down just right or it would blow the gasket. But this was 40 years ago and we have much better materials to work with now. I really hope you read this or anyone else . It could be an easy add on for cars well worth the cost for the increased economy and decrease of emmisions. Hopefully give a little more time for the transition to the totally electric cars that are coming. Jake The Snake Was interested in the gasket for his race cars as it would have been a huge advantage. So if you need an investor you might want to try him. It also goes to show how money trumps humanityand that big corporations (Firestone) are more concerned with the bottom line than reducing polution to save mankind. We really need to institute a crimes against humanity law for people like that and Big Pharma who suppress or overprice discoveries that benefit life.. Please send a comment should you read this. I like to think I am at least trying yo help.
Thanks for the comment been busy with electrician gig lately. Head gasket spark is cool never heard of it but I'm really interested in trying to mist gas with an ultra sonic mister. Same frequency as water and have you tried it?
Hola y tendrás algun plano o instrucciones yo leí tu comentario me gustaría saber más y poder implementarlo tienes planos o instrucciones detalladas, no soy mecánico no se mucho de eso. Gracias saludos
If the fuel is completely evaporated before it goes into the combustion chamber, all the fuel will ignite evenly with one spark. When a regular carb is used, liquid gets into the cylinder and will not completely ignite with the vapor. I can't understand much of what he is saying but I assume he is preheating the fuel causing it to vaporize instantly.
@@johnironsmith4402 If you can preheat the fuel prior to it being vaporized by what ever means you try, it will greatly increase you performance desired. You can tap into your radiator coolant line before it enters the radiator for a hot water source.
Pogue carburetors worked with 1930's formula gasoline. Big oil started putting additives in gasoline that gum up pogue carburetors that progressively destroy their efficiency!
Plus, there's so much great experimentation in all these areas(MPG). That is, gasoline/hydrogen combo systems, water injection, hydrogen from water. Also, propane butane etc, pure vapor 100 mpg carburetors(like mentioned here) , modifications for EFI, it's a huge area. Do your own research and experimentation, the huge MPG and power increases, totally possible.
sadly,a carbed gasoline engine in a 3000 pound car will NEVER,i repeat never achieve 100 mpg...its legend,the reality is lean running engines tend to die a very quick,very painful death
Totally impossible; the limit is not, _and hasn't been for decades,_ combustion efficiency. It's overall thermodynamic efficiency, which cannot be helped with a carburettor.
Have you tried this on an engine ??? Am wondering what are the results of this carburetor ??? Can you please let me know ??? Thanks and keep up the work John.
I have a 2000 Honda insight. Took out the battery 70 pounds. Took out about 150 pounds altogether. I get over 100 mpg gasoline only. It’s not a hybrid anymore. I do heat the gasoline with the catalytic converter and 20 feet of copper tubing. It goes into the injector rail. Are use power steering line instead of gasoline rubber hose line. Heavy duty hi temperature high-pressure power steering line has to be used with the copper tubing or it will melt regular gasoline rubber hose line. I also use special clamps that won’t cut into the hot Rubber. Also you have to use a spray nozzle. You can’t let the full amount of gasoline go to the injector rail. Are use a needle valve and cut the gasoline way back. A little pin prick hole even smaller than what comes out of a ether can. Is all the car needs to run. I also stopped the return line to the gas tank. You don’t want hot vapor going into a plastic gas can tank. Anyway. You let a very small amount of gasoline go into the copper tubing. It is vaporized Goes up to about 80 psi because it’s a very small amountgasoline going into the copper tube. Then you have another control system needle valve too let The vapor leave the copper tubing and go into the injectors. That has to be controlled. A car can burn as much vapor as it does liquid gas and your mileage will not change. Out on the street. There are like 10 hills I travel daily. The tallest one if my car will not go up it I turn the volume of vapor on a little higher. That sets my fuel line for my typography. If I know I’m not going to that hill for a long time I can turn the vapor down a little. It takes X amount of calories or energy joules whatever you wanna call it to climb a hill. Takes next to nothing to travel on flat ground takes nothing to go downhill. So what you’re trying to do is make the car efficient on level traveling. That’s what I’ve done
I'm so glad you posted this. There is a guy in Florida, John Weston, who used similar system as this. He used a geo metro I think. I need to attempt this with an American V8. I'm thinking even with a lean burn it has enough torque to make it over the hills...
Put one of these on a 93-97 Ford Ranger man. These vehicles get amazing gas mileage considering the size. 4cyl 2WD MT 108" WB and possibly put a canopy on it or non-solid tailgate imo. I'd like to get some flatter wheels for it too.
Lol so they want more emissions it sounds like. Wouldn't that be funny what the powers in the world want is more of that and the climate enthusiasts are resisting. I personally don't agree with enthusiasts I'll leave at that.
One more thing.................. see those little black dots. You can put a welder tip from a mig welder it’s made of copper. Get the hole down to the size of those dots.......Have two of them one on either side of the copper tubing. That’s all the gas that needs to go to your motor. It’s called an orifice. I started off doing that. But it got stopped up with a grain of sand. On a busy highway so I switched over to needle valves. Think how small the injectors are. And they’re cutting off and on all the time. if it’s the size of those dots with 80 pound vapor blowing through will keep the car running. This works on a five speed car. If you have a CVT transmission when the car burn less gas the transmission goes into a lower range so you don’t see the savings.You also have to have a lean burn ECU. My system makes the lean burn ECU system way more efficient.
good advice and I didn't know that about the cvt trans computer adjusting based on fuel consumption. not a fan of newer transmissions but I love the 5 speed manual...
I've been told there is a 300 mile potential in 1 gal of gas, and we don't even use 10% of the fuel that goes through the engine. I haven't taken the time to run any numbers, but I'm sure we are not using much of the fuel that runs through the engine. I was nationally certified in automotive tune-up in the 70's, and believe me there was a lot wild stories flying around about fuel mileage in that era. YOUR driving habits and vehicle maintenance is the average persons best bet. My barber told me once that he had bought all the gadgets that were on the market at that time, and put them on his car. Drove about 30 miles to Birmingham... said he had to stop twice and drain gas out of his tank!!!! Y'ALL have a great day in the "LORD". =)
Use an intercooler that has the exhaust plumped throw it inside the intake to make it a superheater/vaporizer for fuel changes the air/fuel ratios for a more efficient burn and water/methanol injection below it to cool valves and pistons, add forced induction to increase intake temps and vaporization.
You need a cross over spider exauhst system with a coragate splash plate vaporizer underneath the carb. This gives you the raw gas needed to cold start and will automatically become a vapor machine as the exauhst gas pass through the fins and begins vaporizing the raw gas into vapor.
BIG QUESTION what is actual measured MPG at 65mph ? ABOUT ExhaustGasTemps: War time ice engines on airplanes were allowed to run lean, and the truth back from them is that the EGT goes high as you lean the mix, but then surprisingly goes lower as it gets to max lean ? ... Interesting, eliminates the valve burn issue, one guy actually used a monoxide detector in the tail pipe, no alarm went off , he says as one of you did that the gas burns so completely that its actually safe to breath the exhaust (not recommended of course) but just to say, yeah it works...
thats exactly what some research paper on air fuel mixtures on the internet said. found it a long time ago. the key to efficiency was getting it so lean that it ran cool.
@@allandulles7108 Yeah, i forgot what i posted, but the gist is that yeah a long time ago like ww2, when pilots were low on fuel they could lean the mixture, so they could make it back home, info i heard was that at first the ExhaustGasTemp EGT would go up, but with more and more leaning", it would then go back down,, WOW so that means the vapor fuel idea would work. BUT also you should heat the gas with either exhaust gas in the tank (thru airtight tubes ) or with radiator fluid in tubes (2 or 3 heater cores should work great), in this way you can get the gas to vaporize alot more fully and get it to where the Exhaust won't even set off a monoxide detector... i was going to try, but so many are already on it, i thought i would just advise them that the EGT is not an issue as most thought. I still want someone to tell us the increased efficiency in mpg at 65mph? please tell us if you know it.
@@InventPeace1 shit, I wish. I need to find that paper first. But another problem is that if the mix is too lean, I don't think a flame would propagate reliably. But I am not sure if the low temperature lean is rich enough to propagate flame.
I looked up the temperature gasoline ignites at without a spark or flame and found 495° F. Then I looked up exhaust temperatures, and found that they exceeded that, sometimes by double. As shown in this video, the pogue carburator would basically be a bomb. Am I missing something?
I experimented with pure vaporization gasoline systems. I think it takes way more heat than 495 to ignite it. But, Please,PLEASE DONT experiment with this unless you know what you are doing! Right? Gas and fire=explosion!!
Gasoline also has a 420⁰F boiling temperature. Methanol has a 148⁰F boiling temperature, not to mention a whopping 867⁰F ignition temperature. Way safer than the Ethanol normally mixed in with 173⁰F boiling temp & 793⁰F ignition temp. Gear heads want us all to grow methanol, it's safer for us.
I believe this works and is similar to Smokey's hot vapor engine. The biggest concern after proper ration control is flash arrestor to prevent a backfire for causing a fire as fuel vapor is extremely flammable & explosive. But I do believe you can greatly increase fuel mileage running on fuel vapor only.
How about dual spirals. One side is hot exhaust and the other is the air fuel mix , getting hotter as it travels the sprial to the center where it is then sucked into the plentum ( intake ) and distributed to the cylinders.
2 problems. You don't need an overly complex design of a carburator you could just use a propane gas design. Then, if you recycle the exhaust gasses to heat up the gas+ oxygen mixture they ignite... You don't want them to ignite until they are at the piston chamber. (and please turn the music down)
@@victoryfirst2878 maybe in a year. Thunderhead289 just made an excellent video of him getting 42+ miles per gallon with a Ford 300ci V8 using a lawnmower carb. Check it out. Mad respect for that guy. I want my next big video to be about Reverse Trike EV solar powered; build from ground up. That's my dream GOD willing I'll get to it sooner than later.
@@johnironsmith4402 THank you John for your reply on the mileage matter. You heads up on the lawnmower carb is just so kool. I look forward to see what you can come up with Sir. I also know God willing is always an honest way of looking at things realistically. Good luck and I look forward to see your great video Sir. Please keep me in the loop. Peace and God bless too. vf
@@victoryfirst2878 Thanks for responding again. Work and family and other factors esp. insomnia lately have prevented me from doing as much as I'd like to. I'm always watching other dudes videos and thinking wow they can narrate and film way better than me and are like cooler and stuff but then I'm like hey people still comment every once and a while and make it worth while....and us builders/tinker-ers are like the 0.0001percent of every body else or sometimes the else is just addicted to video games. Anyways GOD willing with some prayer maybe I can sleep good tonight and make a cool build vid tomorrow.
Evaporate the fuel, break down the fuel, catalytic cracking blah blah. We have a lot of cars that run on natural gas/biogas and the mileage isn't better. And that's pure methane, as short-chain as it gets.
As a person who has worked on fuel islands and has spent much of his life in class 1 division 1 areas, I can attest that even with pure fumes, as in NO droplets and 100% evaporated gasoline, it must be at 14:1 to ignite and flash over. Much if the time, the vapors I would deal with were WAY over 14:1 and thank goodness! Won't burn unless it's JUST RIGHT
yep. ok, can push to 17:1, but ignition becomes erratic. and nothing detracts from the way an engine works. heat air up rapidly with combustion, and use the subsequent rise in pressure due to that heat produced. most of the snake oil requires that the general populace has no idea how an engine works.
Pogue's carb did work in its time, the gasoline then was called well head gas, and was usually collected by evaporation so the molecular chains were relatively short. Todays gas contains roughly 5000 different length molecular chains some of which will not vaporize till 440 degrees, so if even part vaporizes and runs the vehicle, eventually the heavier chains will coat the inside of the heat exchanger and insolate it, steadily reducing effiency , till it no longer works.
Hey that's neat to know. I've heard something similar, but it was that the oil companies did additives so that gas wouldn't evap as easily. 2 reasons possible: make gas less explosive for safety and to render pogue type carbs obsolete. I'm unsure what the truth is about these. But I think the 2 french compressed air cars invented recently make pogue carbs look boring.
The earliest EFI systems obsoleted all carburettors. Combustion efficiency has been in the 90%+ range for decades because of this. But _thermodynamic_ efficiency is much lower; 40% on a road car is stellar. No petrol mixing device will change that.
Use this, pressurize the gas tank (Air compressor),use small fuel lines(5/16) add a flash arrestor before the opening top engine.Remove fuel filter (to much resistance)Then your good to go . Pressure inside the tank will automatically push fumes into the engine in hot climates stacking the fuel vapor upon startup.Ensure the liquid fuel never leaves the tank is the ultimate goal....or this whole system would be worthless.(The bong method) Cleaner burn,less carbon build up. Smaller lines mean faster fuel movement.
Yes it works but you need customization and a couple safety systems.(Flash arrestor is a must),make sure the liquid gas doesn't leave the tank,make sure the ga talk can handle the pressure.
Vw engine tested years ago in wheel barrel, on gas fumes . yes runs engine, and color is gray vapors. Rotated fabric in rotating liquid fuel chamber with heated air passing in upper open section. Holes in carb soldered shut except for diaphram pump squirt for starting. Spud in jet drilled/mounted on side of carb at venturi point. No contaminents on tissue over engine exhaust pipe. Also tested hose from vapor cannistor under car to adjustable brass valve mounted on car intake manifold. 1974 AMC Carter carb Idle jet screwed in shut. Gas cap modified with check spring valve added with hose going down into tank. When regular emmissions tube under car pulls vacuum, the air bubbles INTO gas tank creating bubbles of gas laden air whicjh goes to front of car running engine 6 cylinder amc runs on fumes vapor from gas tank. Squeeze brass valve clear tube, engine shuts off.
Can anyone know (answer) would LPG vaporizers work as a fuel vaporizer ... ? I mean , Lpg is getting in as a liquid fuel and then it vaporize in fume and to a intake ... Lpg vaporizers already have intake for engine cooling system sooo ... just saying ... maybe ...
Lpg got a lower boiling point (-42°C) then gasoline. So if it gets released in atmospheric pressure it wil vaporise instantly. Thats why lpg vaporisers work for lpg. and you cant use it for gasoline becus the boiling point is mutch higher. Unless you heat the lpg carburator to high temps then it can work for gasoline as wel. I hope my answer helps you.
Thanks for your answer , it helped . I see ... So , in that case , with little modification of Lpg vaporizer it can be used to "warm up" the gasoline before entering next ("hotter") chamber and finally be vaporized...
@@jakewilcox3363 fucking hilarious,you think this would do anything slapped on a 3000 pound car other than grenade the engine from a massively lean condition? jesus,the conspiracy bullshit is overwhelming your common sense. read all original propaganda and see the holes.theres no magic 100 mpg carb that is functional unless its on a cox airplane engine of 1-2 cc which in itself is irrelevant
Pogue stated in an interview that the Air and Fuel were not heated together. The spiral heating chamber only heats fuel! Then the clouds of headed fuel vapors spill into the air intake when a valve opens. The heated fuel has positive pressure, and the intake has negative pressure. No air can go into the spiral chamber that's very important!
The idea is to convert the compounds in gasoline into a smog while enriching the smog with hydrogen oxygen and nitrogen to induce 100% burn off of all things harmful to nature.
Hi John, just spotted this only now, so sorry for the late response. I very much believe in the Pogue high mileage carburetor! His system obviously reflects the technology of that era. It was difficult to understand your explanations of your system, but I seem to understand that fuel vapors travel through the spirals in the 2 cannisters and these canister are mounted in a box through which hot exhaust passes. It seems to me that the Pogue carburetor has 2 spirals in each cannister, thus creating 2 separate spiral shaped chambers, one for fuel vapor and the other for hot exhaust fumes to flow through and the heat exchange happened between the spiral wall separating the two gasses. The design you are pursuing is in that sense very different from Charles Pogue's plans and heat exchange - and vaporization - is likely to be very different! Not intended as critique, but hope this may help you in your endeavors to achieve your goals. How far have yo come until now? Any updates or progress reports?
It's true, pure vapor gasoline systems(carburetor) do give 100 plus mpg even in v8 engines, or at least double your mpg(easy). Just pure vapor inject, change to much smaller carb.jets. Of course also use free flowing exhaust, higher compression, high energy ignition etc. Etc. There is much literature and methods on this. I don't think it works very well on fuel injection unless you find a way of radically leaning out/reprogramming the EFI system. (but it can be done, example- reprogram, or "fool" the computer into running leaner using adjusted sensor inputs etc., then use pure gas vapor injection). Plus, it will melt your catalytic converter - the pure lean burn is just too hot- that's why the factory won't do this. But, if it's an older car with a carburetor and no catalyst, it works quite well if your engine cooling system (maybe an oversized radiator etc. )is in good shape.
Vapors are all that burn anyhow, it would be more like 5x more efficient vapors burning compared to liquid fuel. All carburetors do is regulate the amount of fuel used. I saw a 200cfm (motorcycle) carburetor with a big filter being used before the turbo directly mounted onto the intake manifold on a 350ci. engine. As long as you have enough fuel before power loss (my guess is 73.5/1 air/vapor fuel) it matters little how it gets in the combustion chambers. Although, direct injection would be best. It wouldn't be too hot as there would be less waste being heated (fire from tale pipe is also waste). There are many methods to prevent pre-detonation. To name a few deeper dished pistons, hotter camshaft, higher octane fuel, methanol is also a better mix than ethanol, thicker gaskets on intake manifolds, shorter rods, lower ignition timing, and yes, intercooling/more engine cooling would also help.
IF you want to make it more efficient . . . you need HEAT & Water. If you READ extensively on the subject - you will find out that what he is doing is like a CRACKING of the fuel mixture. You might also want to look at using a Catylists to make the CRACKING more efficient. And if you really want to do some CRAZY stuff, add an HHO Generator into the mix before you start the cracking process.
I can show or tell you how to build a working carb. Your close but there are some things that you need to understand about what happens when you get the motor to run. About the fuel and the engine and the motor block. I don't know what the milage would be once a carb is built correctly but it would work great.
I feel like this method may indeed increase gas milage, but man it seems dangerous. 2 air tight canisters filled with fuel vapors = explosion. if even one spark, or gets too hot. Need a way to build those safely so they wouldnt explode.
What's the point of making car go 100mpg? even if people start adopting this technology, the regulatory comission will find out about this and raise the gas prices 4X to compensate.
MAXMPG hey there I am building a vapour carburetor also can you please email me @ anthony2000apf@gmail.com show me how you did yours and I will show you mine
fuck off.....fucking hilarious,you think this would do anything slapped on a 3000 pound car other than grenade the engine from a massively lean condition? jesus,the conspiracy bullshit is overwhelming your common sense. read all original propaganda and see the holes.theres no magic 100 mpg carb that is functional unless its on a cox airplane engine of 1-2 cc which in itself is irrelevant
People plus Garlits calls it a pogue. I have copy of the original patent. No pogue listed. That carb is a water heated carb. Mileage on 60s car good for about double. Nothing near 100.
@@MAXMPG it's water heated, that's a good idea ... John Weston in Florida had an electric heated carburetor Which worked but I found to be very dangerous. I used to be really into the gas carb thing but now I find compressed air engines and Vanadium redox flow batteries to be more interesting than proving to the masses that gas will explode with a 1 to 100 gas air ratio rather than automotive industry standard of 1 to 14. When you start to tell most people this their eyes glaze over or they vehemently argue against you, but then it's my karma because I was just like this in my younger years
I have a pogue style device built like a pogue . Built by someone else. It almost could be used but the unit is not sealed well to separate the exhaust from the intake. It probly wouldnt idle. But the builder did a great job otherwise.
A 95:1 or 100:1 A/F ratio would cause your motor to run extremely hot. Maybe for this to become mainstream we need to build a motor that can take the heat?
Maybe not, less waste is less heat. 73.5/1 air/vapor fuel particles is 5X the 14.7/1 liquid fuel standard and exhaust wouldn't really have much smell. Besides the heat argument, with all due respect just alter the octane detonation point to a lower number, that's easy. Deeper dished pistons, thicker head gaskets, higher octane fuel, intercoolers, that's an easy one. I didn't even mention Methanol. You can grow that stuff and it's awesome.
Weak mixtures only run hot because the flame front is slower causing burn to be completed well after TDC. Advancing ignition timing will improve this scenario. Due to much more even air/fuel mixture, vaporised fuel should burn more quickly than standard droplets.
engines run on heat. on hot air, that increases its pressure and produces force on a piston, due to the heat of combustion. excess air simply doesnt ignite, unless its a diesel. excess air carries heat away, much like blowing on that hot spoonful of food cools down...
If you like charging a battery two three day per week buy an electric car that only gets 150-400 mpc.; charging at 40 amps over night three days/ week will run up your electric bill a lot.
@@johnironsmith4402 another conspiracy theory nut. Scientific fact: lean mixtures are extremely detrimental to any engine no matter what fuel you use or how you get the fuel into the engine. I have no doubt these carburettors can work but unless you are in the 14:1 afm ballpark the engine will run like shit, overheat very quickly and die quickly after.
3 years already. I'm hearing my fuel up to 216 f... Coolant temp.. truck has 270k miles... Tel me about it boi... ya ya please. Or just chill, go watch moonlanding
Poque s carb was likely a hollow metal ball between intake and carb .This doubles gas mileage and cleans up emissions, it works please try, please please try it really works
Big oil added the music so we cant hear him.
Use the transcript if you cannot understand him explaining. 73
I would love to hear what you are saying, but you seem to think the music is more important.
Ur right dude the music sucks Haven't had time to redo vid, working on other stuff. But really if the video was that good and showed results I'd end up like Tom ogle
Yep. These schmucks d be pissed off if it's goes viral
Oh I forgot to add, the 2 french compressed air car engine designs make 100mpg carbs obsolete. They have been buried also and president of tata motors assassinated for trying to produce them
@@johnironsmith4402 Hello John, first of all thank you for this video, it was very informative! Regarding your previous comment (and ignoring the french compressed air cars) I'll ask my question this way: I'm truely wondering if you have already tested this prototype and if so, if it would be worth my time to give it a go myself? Kindest regards and keep up the good work!
@@johnironsmith4402 any updates? Also can you clarify the name of that compressed air car engine?
Not sure what you said, but I heard the music loud and clear 😀
Smokey Yunick experiment with vapor carburetors in the late 70's or early 80's. He said that with the old formulated gas that modern cars with the advances they made to efficient and lighter weight car if they had vapor carburetors cars would be getting over a 100 miles per gallon. He said that in the Popular Science Magazine. Problem is, that the gas now does not have the energy content it use to have. I ordered a vapor carburetor system from a guy who advertised in Popular Science in the 1980"s. A genius mechanic friend of mine built it. He drove it to Myrtle Beach and back. He had to drive it on vapor because the high heat from the heated mixture of vapor melted his carburetor plastic float! You started the car on carburetor and switched over to gas when the heat exchanger heated the gas to vapor. I noticed from the plans that the inventor had to add a new feature to the heat exchanger, It was a Sludge Tank! Because the Gasoline People had add junk to the fuel. When the vapor cracked away from it, you had to have the sludge to drain from the heat exchanger. My inventor friend that built and drove it said that He took it off his truck. To experiment, He filled a milk jug with a gallon of gas and set it out in the sun. When no more would evaporate, He had a third of a jug full of something that would not burn if you stuck a blow torch in it. He did stick a blow torch in it. He said that the gas companies fixed it so the high mileage carburetors would no longer deliver high mileage! I remember in the early sixties that I bought an old Plumbers Blower Torch that use White Gas from amoco. I will it up with white high test gas and lite it off. The blow torch had a small chamber in the bottom that changed the gas to a vapor when heat by the flame chamber. The flame was feed by a very small pin hole. I set it on the tree stump and it has a pretty blue flame that sounded like a jet. It burned for hours! just a pretty blue flame. After my buddy told me about the junk in the gas, I went to the same Amoco station and bought the same high test from the same pump. Fill my Plumbers torch up and lite it off. When the pretty blue flame would burn for a minute and then black smoke would belch out until the trash in the gas unload and then the blue flame would start again. It did this like time work, over and over! The I came to the conclusion my inventor mechanic did. They Gas Companies had doped up the gas to kill vapor carburetor. The car manufactures made advances on the car engine to cover the gas chemists changes in the gas formula and add air pumps and catalyst converts to finish burning the gas that did not have time to burn in the cylinders. My air pump on my car locked down and was not pumping the air into the exhaust system and every time I started the car, black soot would blow out! Smokey Yunick was right, by changing the gas formula, High Mileage Carburetors would not work. I also noticed that Colman Gas Lanterns put on larger vapor chambers on to their lanterns to run this new gas. The heat chambers on the Old Colman Gas Lanterns were stopping up with this new junk in the gas.
If smokey said it I have no doubt...
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This is not the first time I heard this!
Probally a good video,if we could hear what you are saying.
I might have a cxouple of suggestions that will improve your setup. My brother and his friend made a headgasket with four sets of platinum points equally mounted around the cylinder. It was layered in between the gasket material like a circuit board. So instead of firing from the spark plug it fired from each set of points. The platinum points had no place to hold any carbon build up so would not foul out like a spark plug. and firing the gas mixture with four sets of spark burned the fuel vapor quicker and more completely.(old airplanes had two sparkplugs per cylinder)
Giving an increase of power with less fuel consumtion and less emissions. My idea to add to this is to reduce fuel droplet size thus increasing surface area of the fuel by using an ultrasonic mister which instantly vaporizes a drop of liquid to a finer mist than a carburator is capable of. This should also increase power while decreasing consumption andEmmisions. The reason you do not see this gasket method of spark on the market now is a sparkplug company bought their patent. Their was a drawback to the design they had not worked out at the time and that was that the gasket was thicker and you had to torque it down just right or it would blow the gasket. But this was 40 years ago and we have much better materials to work with now. I really hope you read this or anyone else . It could be an easy add on for cars well worth the cost for the increased economy and decrease of emmisions. Hopefully give a little more time for the transition to the totally electric cars that are coming. Jake The Snake Was interested in the gasket for his race cars as it would have been a huge advantage. So if you need an investor you might want to try him. It also goes to show how money trumps humanityand that big corporations (Firestone) are more concerned with the bottom line than reducing polution to save mankind. We really need to institute a crimes against humanity law for people like that and Big Pharma who suppress or overprice discoveries that benefit life.. Please send a comment should you read this. I like to think I am at least trying yo help.
Thanks for the comment been busy with electrician gig lately. Head gasket spark is cool never heard of it but I'm really interested in trying to mist gas with an ultra sonic mister. Same frequency as water and have you tried it?
Hola y tendrás algun plano o instrucciones yo leí tu comentario me gustaría saber más y poder implementarlo tienes planos o instrucciones detalladas, no soy mecánico no se mucho de eso.
Gracias saludos
If the fuel is completely evaporated before it goes into the combustion chamber, all the fuel will ignite evenly with one spark. When a regular carb is used, liquid gets into the cylinder and will not completely ignite with the vapor. I can't understand much of what he is saying but I assume he is preheating the fuel causing it to vaporize instantly.
@@johnironsmith4402 If you can preheat the fuel prior to it being vaporized by what ever means you try, it will greatly increase you performance desired. You can tap into your radiator coolant line before it enters the radiator for a hot water source.
Pogue carburetors worked with 1930's formula gasoline. Big oil started putting additives in gasoline that gum up pogue carburetors that progressively destroy their efficiency!
Yes I read the same thing and it makes sense because Coleman white gas works so much better for these systems
@@johnironsmith4402 iirc white gas/Coleman fuel is easier to evaporate than gasoline so it makes sense
Ok conspiracy theorist
LOL, horseshit.
@@johnironsmith4402 well maybe gas line antifreeze or alcohol might be used instead of gas??
I don’t think any of these big oil companies are liking any of of these vapor systems on UA-cam 😆
none of them are effective beyond basic experimentation sadly...none of these would be enough to use on an actual vehicle
Plus, there's so much great experimentation in all these areas(MPG). That is, gasoline/hydrogen combo systems, water injection, hydrogen from water. Also, propane butane etc, pure vapor 100 mpg carburetors(like mentioned here) , modifications for EFI, it's a huge area. Do your own research and experimentation, the huge MPG and power increases, totally possible.
sadly,a carbed gasoline engine in a 3000 pound car will NEVER,i repeat never achieve 100 mpg...its legend,the reality is lean running engines tend to die a very quick,very painful death
Totally impossible; the limit is not, _and hasn't been for decades,_ combustion efficiency. It's overall thermodynamic efficiency, which cannot be helped with a carburettor.
But heated air is less dense. They say engines run better on cold air because you get more air in the combustion chamber. FIGURES! PROOF! PLEASE!!
Smokey Yunick did this decades ago in NASCAR racing . . . see video . . . .
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Have you tried this on an engine ??? Am wondering what are the results of this carburetor ??? Can you please let me know ??? Thanks and keep up the work John.
That’s the reason why I watched the video, for the final outcome. But ,This is definitely interesting!
Good luck on your Venture.
Is there any video without music on it?
And stoopid music it is too
I have a 2000 Honda insight. Took out the battery 70 pounds. Took out about 150 pounds altogether. I get over 100 mpg gasoline only. It’s not a hybrid anymore.
I do heat the gasoline with the catalytic converter and 20 feet of copper tubing. It goes into the injector rail. Are use power steering line instead of gasoline rubber hose line. Heavy duty hi temperature high-pressure power steering line has to be used with the copper tubing or it will melt regular gasoline rubber hose line. I also use special clamps that won’t cut into the hot Rubber. Also you have to use a spray nozzle. You can’t let the full amount of gasoline go to the injector rail. Are use a needle valve and cut the gasoline way back. A little pin prick hole even smaller than what comes out of a ether can. Is all the car needs to run. I also stopped the return line to the gas tank. You don’t want hot vapor going into a plastic gas can tank. Anyway. You let a very small amount of gasoline go into the copper tubing. It is vaporized Goes up to about 80 psi because it’s a very small amountgasoline going into the copper tube. Then you have another control system needle valve too let The vapor leave the copper tubing and go into the injectors. That has to be controlled. A car can burn as much vapor as it does liquid gas and your mileage will not change.
Out on the street. There are like 10 hills I travel daily. The tallest one if my car will not go up it I turn the volume of vapor on a little higher. That sets my fuel line for my typography. If I know I’m not going to that hill for a long time I can turn the vapor down a little.
It takes X amount of calories or energy joules whatever you wanna call it to climb a hill. Takes next to nothing to travel on flat ground takes nothing to go downhill.
So what you’re trying to do is make the car efficient on level traveling. That’s what I’ve done
I'm so glad you posted this. There is a guy in Florida, John Weston, who used similar system as this. He used a geo metro I think. I need to attempt this with an American V8. I'm thinking even with a lean burn it has enough torque to make it over the hills...
John Ironsmith Well like Elvis would say thank you thank you very much
thats great thank you!
Ha ha ha has it blown up yet. Lol. A roll of tape taped under your gas pedal will do the same thing. You are hilarious
Put one of these on a 93-97 Ford Ranger man. These vehicles get amazing gas mileage considering the size. 4cyl 2WD MT 108" WB and possibly put a canopy on it or non-solid tailgate imo. I'd like to get some flatter wheels for it too.
Due kill the 70's Porn Music. Appreciate the Post. The Men in Black will only visit if you begin to market/sell this for profit. Hobbyists are safe
Lol so they want more emissions it sounds like. Wouldn't that be funny what the powers in the world want is more of that and the climate enthusiasts are resisting. I personally don't agree with enthusiasts I'll leave at that.
hey John! any update on the build?
Any update on this? Did you put it on anything?
One more thing.................. see those little black dots. You can put a welder tip from a mig welder it’s made of copper. Get the hole down to the size of those dots.......Have two of them one on either side of the copper tubing. That’s all the gas that needs to go to your motor. It’s called an orifice. I started off doing that. But it got stopped up with a grain of sand. On a busy highway so I switched over to needle valves.
Think how small the injectors are. And they’re cutting off and on all the time. if it’s the size of those dots with 80 pound vapor blowing through will keep the car running.
This works on a five speed car. If you have a CVT transmission when the car burn less gas the transmission goes into a lower range so you don’t see the savings.You also have to have a lean burn ECU.
My system makes the lean burn ECU system way more efficient.
good advice and I didn't know that about the cvt trans computer adjusting based on fuel consumption. not a fan of newer transmissions but I love the 5 speed manual...
I've been told there is a 300 mile potential in 1 gal of gas, and we don't even use 10% of the fuel that goes through the engine. I haven't taken the time to run any numbers, but I'm sure we are not using much of the fuel that runs through the engine. I was nationally certified in automotive tune-up in the 70's, and believe me there was a lot wild stories flying around about fuel mileage in that era. YOUR driving habits and vehicle maintenance is the average persons best bet. My barber told me once that he had bought all the gadgets that were on the market at that time, and put them on his car. Drove about 30 miles to Birmingham... said he had to stop twice and drain gas out of his tank!!!! Y'ALL have a great day in the "LORD". =)
Uncle Tony brought me here.
Use an intercooler that has the exhaust plumped throw it inside the intake to make it a superheater/vaporizer for fuel changes the air/fuel ratios for a more efficient burn and water/methanol injection below it to cool valves and pistons, add forced induction to increase intake temps and vaporization.
U got any more updates, without music, it's hard to hear you. ....!
Try using ear buds fella
You need a cross over spider exauhst system with a coragate splash plate vaporizer underneath the carb.
This gives you the raw gas needed to cold start and will automatically become a vapor machine as the exauhst gas pass through the fins and begins vaporizing the raw gas into vapor.
BIG QUESTION what is actual measured MPG at 65mph ? ABOUT ExhaustGasTemps: War time ice engines on airplanes were allowed to run lean, and the truth back from them is that the EGT goes high as you lean the mix, but then surprisingly goes lower as it gets to max lean ? ... Interesting, eliminates the valve burn issue, one guy actually used a monoxide detector in the tail pipe, no alarm went off , he says as one of you did that the gas burns so completely that its actually safe to breath the exhaust (not recommended of course) but just to say, yeah it works...
That's kind of what I heard too, because ur burning so much less fuel
thats exactly what some research paper on air fuel mixtures on the internet said. found it a long time ago. the key to efficiency was getting it so lean that it ran cool.
@@allandulles7108 Yeah, i forgot what i posted, but the gist is that yeah a long time ago like ww2, when pilots were low on fuel they could lean the mixture, so they could make it back home, info i heard was that at first the ExhaustGasTemp EGT would go up, but with more and more leaning", it would then go back down,, WOW so that means the vapor fuel idea would work. BUT also you should heat the gas with either exhaust gas in the tank (thru airtight tubes ) or with radiator fluid in tubes (2 or 3 heater cores should work great), in this way you can get the gas to vaporize alot more fully and get it to where the Exhaust won't even set off a monoxide detector... i was going to try, but so many are already on it, i thought i would just advise them that the EGT is not an issue as most thought. I still want someone to tell us the increased efficiency in mpg at 65mph? please tell us if you know it.
@@allandulles7108 When will your prototype be ready to test ? lol
@@InventPeace1 shit, I wish. I need to find that paper first. But another problem is that if the mix is too lean, I don't think a flame would propagate reliably. But I am not sure if the low temperature lean is rich enough to propagate flame.
No gasoline enrichment circuits. That a no-go for automobiles that require speed variances.
I looked up the temperature gasoline ignites at without a spark or flame and found 495° F. Then I looked up exhaust temperatures, and found that they exceeded that, sometimes by double.
As shown in this video, the pogue carburator would basically be a bomb.
Am I missing something?
I experimented with pure vaporization gasoline systems. I think it takes way more heat than 495 to ignite it. But, Please,PLEASE DONT experiment with this unless you know what you are doing! Right? Gas and fire=explosion!!
"King of random" boiled it on a sunny day. He even splashed some gas onto the stove surface. Maybe that's why that dude (KoR) got exit early?!
Gasoline also has a 420⁰F boiling temperature. Methanol has a 148⁰F boiling temperature, not to mention a whopping 867⁰F ignition temperature. Way safer than the Ethanol normally mixed in with 173⁰F boiling temp & 793⁰F ignition temp. Gear heads want us all to grow methanol, it's safer for us.
I believe this works and is similar to Smokey's hot vapor engine. The biggest concern after proper ration control is flash arrestor to prevent a backfire for causing a fire as fuel vapor is extremely flammable & explosive. But I do believe you can greatly increase fuel mileage running on fuel vapor only.
How about dual spirals. One side is hot exhaust and the other is the air fuel mix , getting hotter as it travels the sprial to the center where it is then sucked into the plentum ( intake ) and distributed to the cylinders.
Try mixing one ounce of Acetone per ten gallons of gasoline. This will help break down the fuel.
So basically a carborated motor with a long internal ruff textured intake would do the same??
2 problems. You don't need an overly complex design of a carburator you could just use a propane gas design. Then, if you recycle the exhaust gasses to heat up the gas+ oxygen mixture they ignite... You don't want them to ignite until they are at the piston chamber.
(and please turn the music down)
Yes I agree
@@johnironsmith4402 Are you going to make more videos on the subject John??
@@victoryfirst2878 maybe in a year. Thunderhead289 just made an excellent video of him getting 42+ miles per gallon with a Ford 300ci V8 using a lawnmower carb. Check it out. Mad respect for that guy. I want my next big video to be about Reverse Trike EV solar powered; build from ground up. That's my dream GOD willing I'll get to it sooner than later.
@@johnironsmith4402 THank you John for your reply on the mileage matter. You heads up on the lawnmower carb is just so kool. I look forward to see what you can come up with Sir. I also know God willing is always an honest way of looking at things realistically. Good luck and I look forward to see your great video Sir. Please keep me in the loop.
Peace and God bless too. vf
@@victoryfirst2878 Thanks for responding again. Work and family and other factors esp. insomnia lately have prevented me from doing as much as I'd like to. I'm always watching other dudes videos and thinking wow they can narrate and film way better than me and are like cooler and stuff but then I'm like hey people still comment every once and a while and make it worth while....and us builders/tinker-ers are like the 0.0001percent of every body else or sometimes the else is just addicted to video games. Anyways GOD willing with some prayer maybe I can sleep good tonight and make a cool build vid tomorrow.
Evaporate the fuel, break down the fuel, catalytic cracking blah blah. We have a lot of cars that run on natural gas/biogas and the mileage isn't better. And that's pure methane, as short-chain as it gets.
Did you have any luck with white gas? what became of this?
As a person who has worked on fuel islands and has spent much of his life in class 1 division 1 areas, I can attest that even with pure fumes, as in NO droplets and 100% evaporated gasoline, it must be at 14:1 to ignite and flash over. Much if the time, the vapors I would deal with were WAY over 14:1 and thank goodness! Won't burn unless it's JUST RIGHT
yep. ok, can push to 17:1, but ignition becomes erratic.
and nothing detracts from the way an engine works. heat air up rapidly with combustion, and use the subsequent rise in pressure due to that heat produced.
most of the snake oil requires that the general populace has no idea how an engine works.
They still make these ?
Pogue's carb did work in its time, the gasoline then was called well head gas, and was usually collected by evaporation so the molecular chains were relatively short. Todays gas contains roughly 5000 different length molecular chains some of which will not vaporize till 440 degrees, so if even part vaporizes and runs the vehicle, eventually the heavier chains will coat the inside of the heat exchanger and insolate it, steadily reducing effiency , till it no longer works.
Hey that's neat to know. I've heard something similar, but it was that the oil companies did additives so that gas wouldn't evap as easily. 2 reasons possible: make gas less explosive for safety and to render pogue type carbs obsolete. I'm unsure what the truth is about these. But I think the 2 french compressed air cars invented recently make pogue carbs look boring.
I can't see reply before this one, what did it say? Well, my reply is add methanol, it has higher octane and safer boiling and ignition temperatures.
The earliest EFI systems obsoleted all carburettors. Combustion efficiency has been in the 90%+ range for decades because of this. But _thermodynamic_ efficiency is much lower; 40% on a road car is stellar. No petrol mixing device will change that.
did you get this to work?
Use this, pressurize the gas tank (Air compressor),use small fuel lines(5/16) add a flash arrestor before the opening top engine.Remove fuel filter (to much resistance)Then your good to go .
Pressure inside the tank will automatically push fumes into the engine in hot climates stacking the fuel vapor upon startup.Ensure the liquid fuel never leaves the tank is the ultimate goal....or this whole system would be worthless.(The bong method)
Cleaner burn,less carbon build up.
Smaller lines mean faster fuel movement.
Yes it works but you need customization and a couple safety systems.(Flash arrestor is a must),make sure the liquid gas doesn't leave the tank,make sure the ga talk can handle the pressure.
have you tested it? what are the results
Vw engine tested years ago in wheel barrel, on gas fumes . yes runs engine, and color is gray vapors. Rotated fabric in rotating liquid fuel chamber with heated air passing in upper open section. Holes in carb soldered shut except for diaphram pump squirt for starting. Spud in jet drilled/mounted on side of carb at venturi point. No contaminents on tissue over engine exhaust pipe.
Also tested hose from vapor cannistor under car to adjustable brass valve mounted on car intake manifold. 1974 AMC Carter carb Idle jet screwed in shut. Gas cap modified with check spring valve added with hose going down into tank. When regular emmissions tube under car pulls vacuum, the air bubbles INTO gas tank creating bubbles of gas laden air whicjh goes to front of car running engine 6 cylinder amc runs on fumes vapor from gas tank. Squeeze brass valve clear tube, engine shuts off.
Can we get a update?
Can anyone know (answer) would LPG vaporizers work as a fuel vaporizer ... ? I mean , Lpg is getting in as a liquid fuel and then it vaporize in fume and to a intake ... Lpg vaporizers already have intake for engine cooling system sooo ... just saying ... maybe ...
Lpg got a lower boiling point (-42°C) then gasoline. So if it gets released in atmospheric pressure it wil vaporise instantly. Thats why lpg vaporisers work for lpg. and you cant use it for gasoline becus the boiling point is mutch higher. Unless you heat the lpg carburator to high temps then it can work for gasoline as wel. I hope my answer helps you.
Thanks for your answer , it helped . I see ... So , in that case , with little modification of Lpg vaporizer it can be used to "warm up" the gasoline before entering next ("hotter") chamber and finally be vaporized...
My buddy made one like that with a gas can under the hood. Its worked.
Have you completed the carburetor now and does it work?
Big oil co. must have whacked this guy already...
@@jakewilcox3363 Hahaha i was thinking the same thing
@@jakewilcox3363 fucking hilarious,you think this would do anything slapped on a 3000 pound car other than grenade the engine from a massively lean condition? jesus,the conspiracy bullshit is overwhelming your common sense. read all original propaganda and see the holes.theres no magic 100 mpg carb that is functional unless its on a cox airplane engine of 1-2 cc which in itself is irrelevant
Try carbon felt wick between the metal in the first one to see if you can get it up to 300mpg.
Let us know if it works so we can spread the tech and bring back carbs 😉
Do you think you could 3d print that stuff, or would it get too hot?
Thanks for the video, and the explanation. No disrespect, but could you do another one, without the loud music.
Pogue stated in an interview that the Air and Fuel were not heated together. The spiral heating chamber only heats fuel! Then the clouds of headed fuel vapors spill into the air intake when a valve opens. The heated fuel has positive pressure, and the intake has negative pressure. No air can go into the spiral chamber that's very important!
Also key here, is that warm fuel vapor mixes with cold air, not with warm air.
The idea is to convert the compounds in gasoline into a smog while enriching the smog with hydrogen oxygen and nitrogen to induce 100% burn off of all things harmful to nature.
The music covers the messages.
Hi Please update this video with result and working engin
I agree with some posters below me,,,,I would love to hear what you are saying, but you seem to think the music is more important.
Great job, keep it up!!!
Hi John, just spotted this only now, so sorry for the late response.
I very much believe in the Pogue high mileage carburetor!
His system obviously reflects the technology of that era.
It was difficult to understand your explanations of your system, but I seem to understand that fuel vapors travel through the spirals in the 2 cannisters and these canister are mounted in a box through which hot exhaust passes.
It seems to me that the Pogue carburetor has 2 spirals in each cannister, thus creating 2 separate spiral shaped chambers, one for fuel vapor and the other for hot exhaust fumes to flow through and the heat exchange happened between the spiral wall separating the two gasses. The design you are pursuing is in that sense very different from Charles Pogue's plans and heat exchange - and vaporization - is likely to be very different!
Not intended as critique, but hope this may help you in your endeavors to achieve your goals.
How far have yo come until now? Any updates or progress reports?
kill the music
Build your own carb make your own video then give me your advice
You are all right, the music sucks it was one of the first vids I made and I'm too busy with other stuff to redo it
Congratulations, but whats the result?
turn the music down please.
I think it'd be nice to use aluminum and some tin I believe I'll make it simple to work with.
Interesting video
Smokey Yunick did this decades ago in NASCAR racing
It would be a good thing to try this on a small gas lawn mower ..
My dad had a car that ran on milk! Only problem was you had to stop every two blocks to burp it.
had one that ran only on BP. tried Moth Urine, no go. had to be squeezed from select Bees only. "Wasp Wizz" was also useless... Bee Pee or walk...
It's true, pure vapor gasoline systems(carburetor) do give 100 plus mpg even in v8 engines, or at least double your mpg(easy). Just pure vapor inject, change to much smaller carb.jets. Of course also use free flowing exhaust, higher compression, high energy ignition etc. Etc. There is much literature and methods on this. I don't think it works very well on fuel injection unless you find a way of radically leaning out/reprogramming the EFI system. (but it can be done, example- reprogram, or "fool" the computer into running leaner using adjusted sensor inputs etc., then use pure gas vapor injection). Plus, it will melt your catalytic converter - the pure lean burn is just too hot- that's why the factory won't do this. But, if it's an older car with a carburetor and no catalyst, it works quite well if your engine cooling system (maybe an oversized radiator etc. )is in good shape.
Ed Walker if carburetors can be made to work that well, then why does every car built in the world these days use fuel injection?
@@logik316 you answered your own question....
Vapors are all that burn anyhow, it would be more like 5x more efficient vapors burning compared to liquid fuel. All carburetors do is regulate the amount of fuel used. I saw a 200cfm (motorcycle) carburetor with a big filter being used before the turbo directly mounted onto the intake manifold on a 350ci. engine. As long as you have enough fuel before power loss (my guess is 73.5/1 air/vapor fuel) it matters little how it gets in the combustion chambers. Although, direct injection would be best. It wouldn't be too hot as there would be less waste being heated (fire from tale pipe is also waste). There are many methods to prevent pre-detonation. To name a few deeper dished pistons, hotter camshaft, higher octane fuel, methanol is also a better mix than ethanol, thicker gaskets on intake manifolds, shorter rods, lower ignition timing, and yes, intercooling/more engine cooling would also help.
no,it isnt...ignore what you "read" or what your friends ,sisters boyfriends dad said😅
"I haven't had time to test it"
Great video with the exception of the repetitive porn style music
Wow everybody hates the music.... If I had more time I'd redo video but I'm building something else...
odd ? could this be scaled down and still get good MPG if you were to 3d print one? has anyone tried to 3d print one?
IF you want to make it more efficient . . . you need HEAT & Water.
If you READ extensively on the subject - you will find out that what he is doing is like a CRACKING of the fuel mixture. You might also want to look at using a Catylists to make the CRACKING more efficient. And if you really want to do some CRAZY stuff, add an HHO Generator into the mix before you start the cracking process.
Please redo this and take this music out
Is there a chance of getting the video minus the distracting music ?
I can show or tell you how to build a working carb. Your close but there are some things that you need to understand about what happens when you get the motor to run. About the fuel and the engine and the motor block. I don't know what the milage would be once a carb is built correctly but it would work great.
Hi..and what we must do for that system can work good
Cam You Tell us? 🙂 Thank you
I feel like this method may indeed increase gas milage, but man it seems dangerous. 2 air tight canisters filled with fuel vapors = explosion. if even one spark, or gets too hot. Need a way to build those safely so they wouldnt explode.
What's the point of making car go 100mpg? even if people start adopting this technology, the regulatory comission will find out about this and raise the gas prices 4X to compensate.
The music is louder than the voice. It might me interesting but I can't tell.
John, I have one of these built I would like to share pics. I sent a friend invite to message you. Can we communicate?
MAXMPG hey there I am building a vapour carburetor also can you please email me @ anthony2000apf@gmail.com show me how you did yours and I will show you mine
Big oil companies buy up patents like this and bury them. Happened to a guy my dad grew up with.
fuck off.....fucking hilarious,you think this would do anything slapped on a 3000 pound car other than grenade the engine from a massively lean condition? jesus,the conspiracy bullshit is overwhelming your common sense. read all original propaganda and see the holes.theres no magic 100 mpg carb that is functional unless its on a cox airplane engine of 1-2 cc which in itself is irrelevant
Not a mechanic bud, just a story I've heard. If you feel offended by it publish a novel and kiss my ass about it
About your pic of Garlits holding a
carburetor, that carb is not the famous 200 mpg carb. I can document that.
Ok good to know. Found that pic on the Internet on some website for suppressed inventions
People plus Garlits calls it a pogue. I have copy of the original patent. No pogue listed. That carb is a water heated carb. Mileage on 60s car good for about double. Nothing near 100.
@@MAXMPG it's water heated, that's a good idea ... John Weston in Florida had an electric heated carburetor Which worked but I found to be very dangerous. I used to be really into the gas carb thing but now I find compressed air engines and Vanadium redox flow batteries to be more interesting than proving to the masses that gas will explode with a 1 to 100 gas air ratio rather than automotive industry standard of 1 to 14. When you start to tell most people this their eyes glaze over or they vehemently argue against you, but then it's my karma because I was just like this in my younger years
I have a pogue style device built like a pogue . Built by someone else. It almost could be used but the unit is not sealed well to separate the exhaust from the intake. It probly wouldnt idle. But the builder did a great job otherwise.
A 95:1 or 100:1 A/F ratio would cause your motor to run extremely hot. Maybe for this to become mainstream we need to build a motor that can take the heat?
Maybe not, less waste is less heat. 73.5/1 air/vapor fuel particles is 5X the 14.7/1 liquid fuel standard and exhaust wouldn't really have much smell. Besides the heat argument, with all due respect just alter the octane detonation point to a lower number, that's easy. Deeper dished pistons, thicker head gaskets, higher octane fuel, intercoolers, that's an easy one. I didn't even mention Methanol. You can grow that stuff and it's awesome.
Weak mixtures only run hot because the flame front is slower causing burn to be completed well after TDC. Advancing ignition timing will improve this scenario. Due to much more even air/fuel mixture, vaporised fuel should burn more quickly than standard droplets.
engines run on heat. on hot air, that increases its pressure and produces force on a piston, due to the heat of combustion.
excess air simply doesnt ignite, unless its a diesel.
excess air carries heat away, much like blowing on that hot spoonful of food cools down...
If you like charging a battery two three day per week buy an electric car that only gets 150-400 mpc.; charging at 40 amps over night three days/ week will run up your electric bill a lot.
Have yall ever heard of captions 😂😂
THANK you
Lean burn. Look it up
It's not that we hate the music, it's louder than you are. Hard to hear you.
with pure gas it did in fact it got 200mpg but the gas must be pure.
or have methanol added
Think is how Poque did it
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I cannot hear anything you're saying your music is too loud
You need a 3d printer and good software 3d autocad
The Rothschilds kept making the music louder, and his voice quieter as I turned the volume up :/
Sure you can get 100 miles per gallon going 5 miles an hour with 500 pound car powered by a Pogue carburated 4 banger
you are smart,these other idiots are definitely not seeing the holes in this imaginary story
The Pogue is patented and i think Ford owns it
Good 👍👍
With a 100:1 air fuel ratio you WILL burn a hole in your pistons.
Go right ahead
Tom Ogle of tx ran that mixture back in the 70s and his engine was fine. Some one killed him for it though
@@johnironsmith4402 another conspiracy theory nut.
Scientific fact: lean mixtures are extremely detrimental to any engine no matter what fuel you use or how you get the fuel into the engine. I have no doubt these carburettors can work but unless you are in the 14:1 afm ballpark the engine will run like shit, overheat very quickly and die quickly after.
3 years already. I'm hearing my fuel up to 216 f... Coolant temp.. truck has 270k miles... Tel me about it boi... ya ya please. Or just chill, go watch moonlanding
@@TheXaelem the mixture can in fact get so lean that it runs cool fti
@@wandalllither2452 diesel or gas? what percent increase you seeing?
Nice but the music is hard to deal with.
Maybe use smaller cans
Poque s carb was likely a hollow metal ball between intake and carb .This doubles gas mileage and cleans up emissions, it works please try, please please try it really works
Project farm tried a vaporizer carb, watch his video
no,it really doesnt work....stop reading free energy nonsense and educate yourself..good fucking lord
Join the Gasoline Vapor Systems group on Facebook. facebook.com/groups/280792522340435/
The music is very loud making it difficult to hear you!!
you should tone down the background music, it takes away from the video.