It’s good dub. By the time you fall asleep n wake it it’ll be tommorow, and today will be behind you. We all have days we want behind us. ❤ (good ish papa/chef Low)
Surely Dub knows that ever payer that Doc Rivers has coached outside of the 08 Celtics has gotten slandered. TMac for never playing outside the first round, CP3 & Harden gets called a choker, PG13 got called Pandemic P and Embiid gets called soft
Rivers is the common denominator, dude never makes adjustments on the fly during a game. Basically just tells his guys to play harder and then overly depends on his star players to do everything. The man is a fraud, only gets coaching jobs because he is black and woke.
Greatest championship peaks we've seen have to be 1. MJ in 1990-1993, 2. LeBron's 2012-2013 peak, 3. Shaq's peak 2000-2002, 4. Kobe's 2008-2010 peak, 5. Giannis's peak in 2021, 6. Hakeem's peak in 1993-1994, 7. KD's peak in 2017-2018 with Warriors, 8. Wade's peak in 2006, 9. Kareem's championship peak with the Bucks in 1971, 9. Steph's individual peak during 2015 and 2022 championship seasons, 10. Kawhi's peak in 2019 with Toronto.Those were the most dominant playoff/regular season runs we ever saw and the greatest peaks we've seen.
@@MarzTalksSports Name a player who had a better championship peak in the playoffs + regular season? Who's had better runs then those guys? You could maybe throw 2011 Dirk in there but that's about it. Check the playoff stats, finals stats and regular season stats during those years. Those guys had the best peak seasons statistically and far as how they carried their teams in the postseason's during those years.
I just want to say doc played the same way from game 1 to game 7 it wasn’t until the players started to play badly that they started losing so in the clippers vs nuggets scenario doc had the right game plan they went up 3-1 then the players started to play badly so I can see where dub is coming from and also during the loss in 2021 doc was getting hate it made no sense why cause it was bens fault but there was blame going towards doc for no reason
Dub was baby ticket damn near the whole episode lol they talk over people 80% of the show and get cooked with lines from 4% of the show 😂😂😂 the last 16% of the show is superchats giggles and headshakes
Kobe, Lebron, Wade, D.Rose, CP3 & prime Deron Williams all would have gelled well with Melo in his prime. Melo nearly teamed up with Kobe in LA, he also nearly teamed up with prime D.Rose in Chicago but he chose money and the Knicks instead of rings with the Bulls.
rare LOW and Marz L take on the Suns free throw complaints. They (especially Booker) don’t get enough calls as much as you think they do per game from rim running or even mid range shots that you can still get foul calls from.
Steph, Dame, Kyrie, Ja and Luka are all better point guards then Wall. Right now prime Wall would maybe be the 6th or 7th best point guard in the league today. You can argue that even Trae is probably better then prime Wall. Trae is a better shooter, better scorer, just as good of a passer, Wall has the edge in defense that's about it. Wall was very good defensively in his prime. A more interesting one is where would you rank prime CP3 among point guards today? I'd have him behind Luka, Steph, Dame, Kyrie and Ja personally because of their scoring. That and CP3's history of choking in the playoffs. He has choked and blown multiple series in the playoffs where his team was leading the series 3-1, 3-2, 2-1, 2-0.
Stop bullying my man Dub. He wasn't 💯% right but he was halfway. He just didn't have his shit together to support his arguments quick enough. Plus he supported them with bad points. His Doc Rivers point was right especially when he put a percentage on it AND his John Wall point was right. Prime 2017 Wall is a better scorer, not relying on the whistle, a comparable passer, and an all league defender. Not to mention his playoff translation was better than Harden's even at THAT time and Harden hasn't gotten any better. That in my book would make him better than Harden today.
Substantially worse than Ja and Tre on offense is a stretch. Trae is not a better passer than him either but he’s the more recent player so it’s hard to win that argument
Dub said defense is athleticism. That's not true. Some of the best defenders in NBA history were not the most athletic. Ron Artest and Bruce Bowen just to name a few.
@Andiamdrew Let's be real no one relates strength and dexterity to athleticism at the NBA level. When people mention athleticism they're mostly referring to leaping ability, speed, agility, and quickness. Sure those things can help but it's more being able to read the offensive player, having good reflexes, positioning, size, discipline, basketball IQ, and toughness.
@@upgradeyourmindset3265 I disagree especially when we're talking versatile defenders... Ron had great dexterity, fast hands, and was probably the strongest wing defender in the league during his prime which also made him very effective at switching 1-4. Bruce had tremendously quick feet on the perimeter... Probably the quickest feet of any perimeter defender of his era... Although he was also lowkey a dirty player. Lol... These dudes excelled in some key areas athletically when it came to their defense.
Ticket be stating facts half the time he gets to the point where he over doing it but dub facts be weak and he be extra loud and it just don’t work for him 😂
Not even. Malone and Payton were ancient and way past their prime. They basically were role players at that point. It was Kobe, a declining Shaq and role players.
@@destinedforgreatness3030 Cause same people will call 2014 Miami/2022 Lakers Super teams no matter the age I just want consistency. 2012 Lakers was also a super team🫣
@@troyrountree4924 yeah I mean technically I think they might be going off like the heat with bron or warriors and kd a team with 3 or more Allstars on 1 team
John Wall in his prime was better as a number 1 option than Kyrie Irving and Westbrook just based off of impact on winning. But that would be the company he would be in. Steph and Cp3 were the only ones clearly better than him at that time. Lillard wasn’t better than Wall back then but I do think Lillard got better over time.
@@MarzTalksSports nah as a warriors fan I agree Poole is talented but he is wild at times he like can be too flashy instead of making the simple play shit I’ve like donte better than him this season bc he plays more under control and is good on defense but I’d even pick reeves lol
@@destinedforgreatness3030 As a Warriors fan, I would rather have Reeves this year. Poole doesn't score well enough to make up for his turnovers or his defense.
Dame's scoring is inflated af because of the 2014 to present era of very pro offensive agenda NBA. Larry Bird was the better scorer, not by much, but especially in the playoffs. Bird beats Dame in efficiency by far. Dame is a terrific volume scorer. Dame can get crazy cooking, one of the most hottest streaky scorers I have ever seen when that jumpshot is falling, but just not game to game consistent like Bird was. I'd take Bird's scoring over Dame's, it was more beneficial to winning because of his top notch proficiency.
Lol ok. We jus saw him play on the clippers 🗑 In his prime, all he had was athleticism (a mediocre watered down Westbrook) So if u saw how he was playing, and u give him his athleticism back.. NO WAY HE TOP 5 rn
John wall is DEFINITELY NOT A TOP 5 PG today. He’s literally a lower level version of Westbrook 😭😭😭😭😭 maybe top 10 today but even that is looking rough for him
@@Kay_Locc what does him playing on the clippers this season have to do with anything? he’s years removed from his prime. and saying “all he had was athleticism” just proves you didn’t watch him AT ALL lol.
Why do y’all put Kyrie up that high? Lillard Wall Westbrook Cp3 all are judged based off what they did as number 1 options. Kyrie was worse in that role than all of them.
Lol Austin Reeves over Jordan Poole? That's insane. Poole averages 20 points, 5 assists and 2.7 rebounds per game. In only 30 minutes per game. Reeves averages only 12 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists in 28 minutes per game. They aren't even close. Poole at his best gives you way more. Poole can go off for 30-40+ points any given night. Reeves is a guy that just consistently gives you 10-15 points every night. Poole is a future star in this league. Reeves is a role player.
@@MarzTalksSportsNo one in their right mind or that knows basketball is choosing to build their team around Reeves over Poole😂. One's a low tier all star, the other is a role player. Poole is the best bench scorer in the league 😂. Poole's upside is huge. Reeves peak upside is as a 12-16 point role player. That's all he'll ever be. You can argue that on a lot of other NBA teams he wouldn't even start or wouldn't get heavy minutes. But the Lakers are desperate for shooting. Reeves just meshes well with how LeBron plays that's it. Stand around in the corner and wait for LeBron to kick it out to you for wide open jumpers.
@@MarzTalksSports Poole is the 3rd best player/3rd leading scorer on a team that just won a championship. Reeves is like the 5th best player on a team that is struggling just to get into the play in tournament and will most likely be bounced out of the playoffs in the first round, if they even get in. Poole is like a better version of Jordan Clarkson. Poole's the best bench scorer in the league. Reeves disappears and does little when LeBron & AD are on the floor. He's a role player man. Role players aren't on the same level as a guy who is a 3rd banana on a championship team/championship contender. Just absurd logic.
Nahhh yah supposed to be speaking facts instead yah speaking lies and pure bs Kobe 08 season was no where near better than lebron 2012-13 season come now yet alone peak
2:04:41 Bro got toasted so bad he pulled a fake malfunction I’m crying
Dub got put in the deep fryer
What’s his twitch
Post more videos plz
@@JohnSmith-uw4jp this week
@@Eokolo555 dubanaire
Deep Fryer Might Be A Understatement 😅🤦🏾♂️
Man Dub gets cooked so much he transforming into ticket at rapid speed🤣🤣🤣
Yea but with less emotions
@@Jj-jb4qy Na he gets butt hurt on some things and starts yelling and cursing too.
Dub was wilding in this one😭
never seen someone defend doc rivers so hard lmfao
Not only every other fanbase saying that but even including their own fans saying Luka cries way damn too much
2:18:21 bro just came in to play with his chin than dip I’m dead ash😂
It’s good dub. By the time you fall asleep n wake it it’ll be tommorow, and today will be behind you. We all have days we want behind us. ❤ (good ish papa/chef Low)
I agree to be honest. With his jump shot being tweaked he’d be praised like Fox. Fox is a top 5 PG. Curry, Luka, CP3, Dame, Fox/Ja.
I used to argue back then that it was back and forth between Kyrie and John Wall until he got hurt.
18:52 Drose Ball IQ and consistency is what separates him from Westbrook at that point
Wall’s defense is what sets him apart from everyone else
Dub was battling everybody lol😂
Surely Dub knows that ever payer that Doc Rivers has coached outside of the 08 Celtics has gotten slandered. TMac for never playing outside the first round, CP3 & Harden gets called a choker, PG13 got called Pandemic P and Embiid gets called soft
Rivers is the common denominator, dude never makes adjustments on the fly during a game. Basically just tells his guys to play harder and then overly depends on his star players to do everything. The man is a fraud, only gets coaching jobs because he is black and woke.
All those players you named were playoff droppers before and after Doc
@@DtbJay3x And Doc was a choker before and after all those players too. Go round n round here....
@@DtbJay3x cp3 was a playoff riser and embiid doesn’t so much as drop more than he just gets injured
Greatest championship peaks we've seen have to be 1. MJ in 1990-1993, 2. LeBron's 2012-2013 peak, 3. Shaq's peak 2000-2002, 4. Kobe's 2008-2010 peak, 5. Giannis's peak in 2021, 6. Hakeem's peak in 1993-1994, 7. KD's peak in 2017-2018 with Warriors, 8. Wade's peak in 2006, 9. Kareem's championship peak with the Bucks in 1971, 9. Steph's individual peak during 2015 and 2022 championship seasons, 10. Kawhi's peak in 2019 with Toronto.Those were the most dominant playoff/regular season runs we ever saw and the greatest peaks we've seen.
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@@MarzTalksSports Name a player who had a better championship peak in the playoffs + regular season? Who's had better runs then those guys? You could maybe throw 2011 Dirk in there but that's about it. Check the playoff stats, finals stats and regular season stats during those years. Those guys had the best peak seasons statistically and far as how they carried their teams in the postseason's during those years.
@@Cameron_Caron 😂
@@MarzTalksSports 🤡🤣
@@Cameron_Caron Wade has a better peak then magic Drob Larry bird and Kareem. Definitely crack Cocaine
Need the link to get in this convo y’all wilding on this John Wall discussion
Keep your head up Dub. People just don't listen.
This show has no standards of RESPECT
John wall played in the same era as Westbrook and Lillard and Curry and aging CP it’s no way that Wall take is not it and I’m a wizards fan 😂😂😂
Where’s the twitch stream 😅
29:58 but we're not gonna disrespect champions by saying they were lucky and totally dismiss that accomplishment
2:39:56 Classic Jose Mourinho 😂😂😂
I agree with Dub about Kyrie at the beginning
Damn that liquor got homie on one😂
Dub and Ticket ability to lose every argument and using stats to kill their own arguments is baffling.
I fux with dude in the cowboy hat he just look funny to me 😂😂
dubs been around ticket too much 😂😂😂
I just want to say doc played the same way from game 1 to game 7 it wasn’t until the players started to play badly that they started losing so in the clippers vs nuggets scenario doc had the right game plan they went up 3-1 then the players started to play badly so I can see where dub is coming from and also during the loss in 2021 doc was getting hate it made no sense why cause it was bens fault but there was blame going towards doc for no reason
Yall seen CP3’s record when Scott Foster refs him?
Low keep bringing ash on that nigga be hilarious in the twitter spaces !!!
Dub just likes to hear himself talk.
Dub was baby ticket damn near the whole episode lol they talk over people 80% of the show and get cooked with lines from 4% of the show 😂😂😂 the last 16% of the show is superchats giggles and headshakes
Bars lets go dub
Kobe, Lebron, Wade, D.Rose, CP3 & prime Deron Williams all would have gelled well with Melo in his prime. Melo nearly teamed up with Kobe in LA, he also nearly teamed up with prime D.Rose in Chicago but he chose money and the Knicks instead of rings with the Bulls.
Sighs.....
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks John Wall isn't all that 🔥🔥🔥
Yea, issa lot of crazy ppl in the world
@@re11o Really
UK bro be on point
yes i do be on point
@@MarzTalksSports nah it’s “the voice” marz 😭😭😭😭
@@MarzTalksSports real shit I like how u come wit facts and they argue back with feelings (not this video necessarily)
@@MarzTalksSports kyrie shit be lookin cool but bro ain’t a winner and Shai better than Ja low key. Tre just sell tickets in a weak market
Ticket TV Dub edition lol
Kyle Lowry😂😂😂😭😂
rare LOW and Marz L take on the Suns free throw complaints. They (especially Booker) don’t get enough calls as much as you think they do per game from rim running or even mid range shots that you can still get foul calls from.
My shit was not working today to debate you guys damn. Oh well maybe next time. Keep it real dub and marz
Steph, Dame, Kyrie, Ja and Luka are all better point guards then Wall. Right now prime Wall would maybe be the 6th or 7th best point guard in the league today. You can argue that even Trae is probably better then prime Wall. Trae is a better shooter, better scorer, just as good of a passer, Wall has the edge in defense that's about it. Wall was very good defensively in his prime. A more interesting one is where would you rank prime CP3 among point guards today? I'd have him behind Luka, Steph, Dame, Kyrie and Ja personally because of their scoring. That and CP3's history of choking in the playoffs. He has choked and blown multiple series in the playoffs where his team was leading the series 3-1, 3-2, 2-1, 2-0.
We ain't seen him healthy in his prime in this era so the ifs and hypotheticals is interesting but not factual
Dub your fav player is Kobe and mines as well can’t scream shot selection for anyone 😂😂😂
someone get dubs tombstone ready
dub addicted to getting cooked
He won the John wall argument tho
@@nickfuller1905 no I’m sorry but hell no
Stop bullying my man Dub. He wasn't 💯% right but he was halfway. He just didn't have his shit together to support his arguments quick enough. Plus he supported them with bad points. His Doc Rivers point was right especially when he put a percentage on it AND his John Wall point was right. Prime 2017 Wall is a better scorer, not relying on the whistle, a comparable passer, and an all league defender. Not to mention his playoff translation was better than Harden's even at THAT time and Harden hasn't gotten any better. That in my book would make him better than Harden today.
Luka, Steph, Dame, Ja, yeah John Wall would definitely be a top 5 PG in his prime today
You think hed be better than trae young
@@fwcammmm Trae young hasn’t even touched top 15 yet in his career, of course he’d be better than Trae 😂 we haven’t seen Trae hit that ceiling yet
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@@Abbad1579 🤡for disagreeing
@@fwcammmm Kyrie and Fox >
What’s the twitch
Facts wondering the same
The twitch is dubanaire
is he live rn?
Substantially worse than Ja and Tre on offense is a stretch. Trae is not a better passer than him either but he’s the more recent player so it’s hard to win that argument
Trashin trae young for his percentage from deep 3 was wild when you guys praised Russ' 3 pt shooting
Dub said defense is athleticism. That's not true. Some of the best defenders in NBA history were not the most athletic. Ron Artest and Bruce Bowen just to name a few.
Strength and dexterity can be apart of your athleticism so you're wrong... And those guys excelled there especially Ron.
@Andiamdrew Let's be real no one relates strength and dexterity to athleticism at the NBA level. When people mention athleticism they're mostly referring to leaping ability, speed, agility, and quickness. Sure those things can help but it's more being able to read the offensive player, having good reflexes, positioning, size, discipline, basketball IQ, and toughness.
@@upgradeyourmindset3265 I disagree especially when we're talking versatile defenders... Ron had great dexterity, fast hands, and was probably the strongest wing defender in the league during his prime which also made him very effective at switching 1-4.
Bruce had tremendously quick feet on the perimeter... Probably the quickest feet of any perimeter defender of his era... Although he was also lowkey a dirty player. Lol... These dudes excelled in some key areas athletically when it came to their defense.
Ticket be stating facts half the time he gets to the point where he over doing it but dub facts be weak and he be extra loud and it just don’t work for him 😂
Dub cooked y’all on the j wall 😊
Dub getting cooked😂😂😂
Dub got cooked for 2 hours straight
04 Lakers was a super team 🫣🫣
Not even. Malone and Payton were ancient and way past their prime. They basically were role players at that point. It was Kobe, a declining Shaq and role players.
@@Cameron_Caron Age matters for Super teams? I just wanna make sure
@@troyrountree4924 nah it was still a super team at least by names 4 hofs on 1 team even if 2was old as hell by then
@@destinedforgreatness3030 Cause same people will call 2014 Miami/2022 Lakers Super teams no matter the age I just want consistency.
2012 Lakers was also a super team🫣
@@troyrountree4924 yeah I mean technically I think they might be going off like the heat with bron or warriors and kd a team with 3 or more Allstars on 1 team
Defense matters
2:09:44 lmao 🤣. Dub in denial about the Celtics shooting. Ainn no way he's denying facts with opinions
What’s dubs twitch
Lol dub can’t turn baby face like mars.
John Wall in his prime was better as a number 1 option than Kyrie Irving and Westbrook just based off of impact on winning. But that would be the company he would be in. Steph and Cp3 were the only ones clearly better than him at that time. Lillard wasn’t better than Wall back then but I do think Lillard got better over time.
Austin Reeves ova Jordan poole is crazy
what did i say that was incorrect ab their games?
@@MarzTalksSports who is the better player
@@Bdog_45 pooles more talented i said,reaves is more valuable and therefore i believe hes better
@@MarzTalksSports nah as a warriors fan I agree Poole is talented but he is wild at times he like can be too flashy instead of making the simple play shit I’ve like donte better than him this season bc he plays more under control and is good on defense but I’d even pick reeves lol
@@destinedforgreatness3030 As a Warriors fan, I would rather have Reeves this year. Poole doesn't score well enough to make up for his turnovers or his defense.
Dame's scoring is inflated af because of the 2014 to present era of very pro offensive agenda NBA. Larry Bird was the better scorer, not by much, but especially in the playoffs. Bird beats Dame in efficiency by far. Dame is a terrific volume scorer. Dame can get crazy cooking, one of the most hottest streaky scorers I have ever seen when that jumpshot is falling, but just not game to game consistent like Bird was. I'd take Bird's scoring over Dame's, it was more beneficial to winning because of his top notch proficiency.
2:14:40 Dub solidified himself the dumbest panellist of all time.
Jokic tried on defense ok Mars Let you tell it
what
prime john wall is definitely a top 5 point guard in today’s league.
Lol ok. We jus saw him play on the clippers 🗑
In his prime, all he had was athleticism
(a mediocre watered down Westbrook)
So if u saw how he was playing, and u give him his athleticism back.. NO WAY HE TOP 5 rn
John wall is DEFINITELY NOT A TOP 5 PG today. He’s literally a lower level version of Westbrook 😭😭😭😭😭 maybe top 10 today but even that is looking rough for him
@@aaby3964 y'all just be saying anything
@@dondrickdem just stupid man lol
@@Kay_Locc what does him playing on the clippers this season have to do with anything? he’s years removed from his prime. and saying “all he had was athleticism” just proves you didn’t watch him AT ALL lol.
1:48:11 LOW crying imitation.
Beal was not in his prime yet
2010 Kobe was coming off knee surgery
Dub doesn’t know basketball they came in the league around the same time
Bro said 2023 John wall is better than harden lmao poor dub
Yeah probably would
Lowry was not a better defender than Wall😂😭
Bradley beal was not better than demar in 2017 stop bending over for marz and his antidemar angenda
I feel like ppl didn’t watch Jordan’s actual games lol… Craig Eloh 😒
Ja Morant isn’t better than John Wall in his prime. Y’all just like him right now and he hasn’t disappointed anybody yet.
Why do y’all put Kyrie up that high? Lillard Wall Westbrook Cp3 all are judged based off what they did as number 1 options. Kyrie was worse in that role than all of them.
So many childish assed panelists and chatters on here calling people old heads as a way to dismiss their different opinions on sports. SMH.
Steph , Dame , Shai , Kyrie , ja morant and luka better then prime Wall . Wall couldn’t even get to ECF lol
If thats ur argument neither has ja or shai 💀
@@unlimitedz2.014 never said that was my argument sir . I said those players are better rn then prime wall .
Shai really is a sg . You can argue prime John wall is better than ja and kyrie right now.
@@Superfly369 u used it as like a point like oh wall couldn’t even get to the ecf
He broke his hand in 2015 he should have made it then, then in 2017 his bench got outscored 45-5 in game 7 so i mean alot of shit just aint go his way
Lol Austin Reeves over Jordan Poole? That's insane. Poole averages 20 points, 5 assists and 2.7 rebounds per game. In only 30 minutes per game. Reeves averages only 12 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists in 28 minutes per game. They aren't even close. Poole at his best gives you way more. Poole can go off for 30-40+ points any given night. Reeves is a guy that just consistently gives you 10-15 points every night. Poole is a future star in this league. Reeves is a role player.
this is such flawed logic
@@MarzTalksSportsNo one in their right mind or that knows basketball is choosing to build their team around Reeves over Poole😂. One's a low tier all star, the other is a role player. Poole is the best bench scorer in the league 😂. Poole's upside is huge. Reeves peak upside is as a 12-16 point role player. That's all he'll ever be. You can argue that on a lot of other NBA teams he wouldn't even start or wouldn't get heavy minutes. But the Lakers are desperate for shooting. Reeves just meshes well with how LeBron plays that's it. Stand around in the corner and wait for LeBron to kick it out to you for wide open jumpers.
@@Cameron_Caron who said anything ab building a team around them,also whats upside got to do with right now?
@@MarzTalksSports Poole is the 3rd best player/3rd leading scorer on a team that just won a championship. Reeves is like the 5th best player on a team that is struggling just to get into the play in tournament and will most likely be bounced out of the playoffs in the first round, if they even get in. Poole is like a better version of Jordan Clarkson. Poole's the best bench scorer in the league. Reeves disappears and does little when LeBron & AD are on the floor. He's a role player man. Role players aren't on the same level as a guy who is a 3rd banana on a championship team/championship contender. Just absurd logic.
@@Cameron_Caron 3rd leading scorer is correct,3rd best player is not correct
Lowry don’t do shit great but take charges
Prime for prime Russ is way better then rose
Gotta stop bringing children up there on pc. These kids don’t have the balls to have their own opinions on a DEBATE show. It’s actually sad.
Man acting like John wall wasn’t in this era lord everybody would be better in this era this narrative have to stop 🤣🤣
1:58:10 Dub is so corny. He tried to ride Marz's coat tails and gets schooled everytime. Probably the dumbest panellist I have ever heard from.
So John Wall is mid?
No but he wouldn’t be a top 5 pg today
Y'all prove that y'all don't watch ball bc prime wall was top 5 hands down
this niggas really forget how good wall was. only pgs today i’m taking over him are curry, dame and luka. kyrie is arguable.
Cap what years
2014 -2018 j wall was top 5 pg
If every point guard were in they prime today he’s not top five at all
@@dylanporter9489 who asked that question?
Dub so corny 🤦🏾♂️
2:39:15 Dub the dumbest.
Nahhh yah supposed to be speaking facts instead yah speaking lies and pure bs
Kobe 08 season was no where near better than lebron 2012-13 season come now yet alone peak