Got my P1P a couple days ago, which is very similar. Been cranking out parts like crazy and haven’t stopped since. The auto calibration is a lifesaver and makes me actually enjoy the hobby again
This printer has changed 3d printing for me. I use mine for work so its awesome to just click print instead of spending my free time messing with stuff
Daniel, Glad to see your experience is still overall positive. I've had my X1CC for about 6 months now and I love it for most of my printing. I have a long running issue with Bambu (since February) that is preventing me from fully utilizing the printer for Voron Print it Forward use. In short, any time I print a horizontal hole (in the z face of a print) - like hex nut holes or heat set insert holes, they print squished (like an oval). There are several other owners having this experience and we have open support cases with Bambu. We're convinced it's a hardware issue (I can print the exact same STL on my Voron and it prints pristine) and are working the process thru with Bambu Support. Other than that, it prints all my Etsy items near flawlessly and I enjoy the hands off, turnkey printing operation. Thank you for the review!
This doesn't minimize the issue (and I've seen it also on my machine, though I don't get it on the sideways D shapes I use to insert square nuts) but I thought Print-it-Forward had a rule that all parts had to be printed on a Voron?
@@davydatwood3158 well - the vetting rules do infer it must be a Voron that creates the parts - but it does not explicitly state that: "Which Voron Model(s) you have and are intending to use for PIF" - it's likely that the vetting team would reject my submissions if I were to say it was an X1CC
Got mine friday, and I`ve just started job after job with PERFECT results! I`ve never been so blown away by a FDM printer before! By far THE best printer i've ever experienced in my 11+ years of 3D printing :D Ive had a few errors, but that was my own fault, among others putting the bed back in backwards and not realising that for like almost 10mins of troubleshooting.. to my defense, Im down with the flue, and tierd AF sooo.. heh
Sold my Voron 2.4r2 350 to get a Bambu X1C instead and it's a total paradigm shift in terms of useability. So far my X1C has been the most reliable out of all of my printers and I am very happy with my purchase.
@@tylerebowers I have a Voron 2.4, 250. I am in the midst of some upgrades and it’s been an issue after issue. One step forward with 2 steps back. I am dangerously close to pulling the trigger on an X1C so I can just print. I enjoy tinkering but 😵💫
Hi Daniel, I have been searching for a good printer for a noobie like myself in this realm. I've wanted the bambu carbon for xmas but had to put off. Then the P1P came out and I was like wow - now which way do I go... My son gave me, or should I say let me borrow, his Geeetech A20M printer. I immediately upgraded the extruders to all metal and replaced his hotend since it was totally clogged. I also adjusted all the rails and bed to get rid of all play as well as replace the removable magnetic flex platform. Installed the auto 3D Touch and upgraded the firmware to suit. My son was impressed and wanted to do the same upgrades but didnt have the extra funds since he go married. I asked why impressed since he knew my background. He just said that was 30yrs ago... freak'n kids. I'm still waiting for him to drop off some of his new filament since his old PETG, that was on it, is really not working well. (1yr since he played with it) ANYWAY - I want to make Flight SIMMs and make glass style cockpits. Maybe relive my youth and build a few classic muscle cars. So which printer should I get; the X1 Carbon or the P1P w/AMS? PS... Don't tell the wife...lol
I was in the same boat as you, a friend of mine gave me a a20m but I could never get it working properly though I never tried really taking it apart out of fear of not knowing how to put it back together. It sat for months after trying to change the extruder out because the one that comes with it is horrible. All it does it clog up and cause issues for me. When I tried flashing firmware I must of done something wrong because the screen won't even turn on now. I gave up and last week I ordered a sovol sv06. I couldn't be happier with it so far. Every print I've had fail was user error and it hasn't been very many and on top of that I started off printing lw PLA right away instead of regular pla. If I could of afforded it I would of definitely went with a p1p or x1c. The x1c is really amazing in so many aspects but the speed is what I like about it. It can cut print times in half
i wanted a x1c but the bed size throw me off, hopefully there is something in the work for a larger bed size like 300*300 or even 350*350 would be nice and update the design espcially on ams for some of it downful. For now sticking to my enderwire and voron 0.1.
@@bomas_ulz i agree ideally linear rails, but at the same time that is kinda down to how thick the rods are, there is some voron trident and 2.4 350mm mods out there with carbon rods instead of rails adn they seem fine and expected considering it was almost a solid rod not a hollow one.
@@bomas_ulz yeha that is very true, if they doing a bigger printer defo linear rails is the way to go, high pretension ones espcially on the x would be ideal. But carbon rods are still have it use inturns of weight savings if it been designed right but it would be marginal if you want decent input shaper results. Oh yeah even my enderwire is able to do p1p speeds easy 250mm/s at 12.5k accel, my voron 0.1 is way much faster than that running at 700mm/s at 100k accel but requires a bit more redesign to get consistence printing at that type of speed but looking to go a bit faster with future servo upgrades. However i do want a bambu on the side that doesnt require tinkering just prints. Would get a prusa if it wasn't overpriced
@@bomas_ulz yeah that decent, i managed to get my v0.1 tuned reasonabily well to print asa at 300mm/s at 50k for a standard pif print, but i am looking to make some design changes to see if i can get same quality print at faster speed, cooling is currently the main one i am looking to do. Doing a cpap setup that takes the chamber air which is around 60 degrees and use that to cool the parts should allow me to go faster, aswell an awd setup for it that still allow me to enclose the printer. (Basically a make shift scale down vzbot lol)
@@bomas_ulz haha yeah get ur wife addicted to 3d printing then you dont need to justufy spending money on more printers lol. Yeah i going with nice quality as a focus on my enderwire but speed on my v0.1. Want to get a vz330 kit aswell later on once simon and team developthe kits more.
I got my X1C and AMS mid january and have absolutely loved it. I have a prusa mk3 with a revo, a heavily modified ender 3 and a voron 0.1 my prusa and X1C are both workhorse printers that i never have to mess with. My ender is a hobby project and i love my voron. I am pretty invested into printing and tinkering with my printers, but have two printers that are always ready to print is so nice. I have put over 800 hours on the x1 all using the AMS and have not had a single issue with it. The only “modifications” i’ve done to the printer are adding the bento box filter and putting a WhamBam plate on it which i couldn’t recommend enough. I have only had one or two ams clogs other than that the printer just works.
@Stanley Cubrik it didn't look like if affected my plate. I think it's only rough surfaces that causes lidar issues. I'll report back if I have any future issues.
@Stanley Cubrik the whambam plate is amazing for printing holes, like honeycomb shapes. It fixed the issue I've been having with honeycomb prints not sticking to the plate well, even with Elmer's extra strength glue stick. I used no glue on the whambam and the PLA stuck like a champ.
Thanks for this! I've been fairly satisfied with my X1C. Recently started to have minor mechanical issues that needed tending to, most noticeably my first nozzle clog! Which took forever to deal with - plastic had managed to back up into the cold end of the nozzle assembly when the hotend fan plug wasn't seated properly after a nozzle change - but eventually I realised that "this is hardened steel. My pin vise uses cheap AliExpress bits. There's no way they're harder than the nozzle." And then used a 1mm and 1.8mm drill bit in my pin vise to clean it out. Other than that, my only major issue has involved some low-quality ABS not sticking to the damn bed, but I think I've finally figured out how to cajole it. I think I was overheating it in the drying box before it got into the printer. So that's not the X1C's fault! The heads-up about the bed cable is good to know, I'll keep an eye out for symptoms. I'm about 6 months behind you (and suspect my duty cycle is lower) so this gives my a good sense of what to watch out for in the future. So sad to hear about people being jerks on the forums etc, though. :(
I have been doing 3 D printing since 3 years, started with flash frog , then returned it to get Qidi which it was a nightmare but great CS. and two years got Creality Ender 3 Pro S1 which worked half the time.Last week I bought My X1C which is a game changer for me , slice, send and print and so far it works. I am glad I did choose it after seeing many reviews.
I've had my XC1 since Christmas, nothing has broken or worn out yet. I just did my 1st maintenance I must have run 30 rolls of PLA through it. I've had 2 jambs at the AMS one which was caused when it was switching to a new roll. I just bought my 2nd XC1 along with a bunch of spare parts, Textured PEI plates etc. I have 2 Crealitys sitting next to the XC1s collecting dust. I have become a Bambu Fan Boi
Another happy X1 owner here. Out of my 4 printers the X1 has become my goto printer. I never thought I would enjoy using something more than my Prusa. Speaking of the cable do you think there's anything preventative that can be done before the failure? I wouldn't mind taking it apart to change the routing or throw some tie wraps on it if you noticed any areas for improvement. Also the X1 has pushed me to work on upgrading my other 3 printers with Klipper to bring them more inline with the performance of the X1.
So you support sending all your original designs and patent prototypes to corporations, governments and individuals? You really think that rights agreement would either be written to protect you, or honored by criminal organizations? Man you're trusting!
@@chrissinclair4442 You know there's a LAN mode right? or you can use the sd card. I suppose you don't use Fusion 360, Onshape, Solidworks etc or any other cloud based cad software which house the actual models and not just the gcode.
I have had my X1C for a few months now. Great machine! I have had very few problems and most being self induced. I print mostly pla, pla+ and Tpu. The machine has been reliable and I bought some parts with the original purchase but so far no need for any of them. I did switch to an after market PEI built plate because I do not like using the glue stick. Looking at buying a second but waiting hoping they will introduce a bigger machine.
I had the same issue with the cable. A wire had an open. I repaired the wire. Bambu did send a replacement. Still, this is the best printer I'll ever own.
I got an Bambu X1c about 6 months ago and have been running it almost non-stop since. This is my 5th printer and has been more reliable thank my Anycubics, crealitys or elegoo. Overall very impressed with the printer but in the end this will always be a "tinkerers" hobby. I don't mind doing maintenance, but the less the better
I've been going back and forth between this and the Mk4 (for purchase), and you tipped me to the X1 Carbon. I appreciate your knowledge of the printer and acknowledgment that it's not perfect, but that Bambu has been hard at work to improve it.
Depends: Do you want China to have all the data that goes through your printer (including that camera)? Then go with BL. Do you care about not letting your IP be used against your wishes? Then don’t go with BL.
I've got a MK4, but it's killing me that 1) waited so long to receive it and 2) MMU3 is still yet to be finalized and ready to ship for MK4. I'm seriously considering purchasing an X1C for the AMS feature as I've been waiting 2 months for a dev update from Prusa on MMU3 for MK4.
I’ve been waiting to click Buy on one of these but the noise and a few other things have me waiting to see what the next incarnation brings. Maybe a bigger print volume?
We have X1 carbon at work for over year now and could not be happier - its such a great tool - we where not super expierienced before and we where using Rise 3d E2 solid but comparitivly on slow and expensive site - now we have 2 X1 carbons and we have so little issues - only one worth mentioning is a lile bit of warping on big ABS prints - becouse of that we Print mostly PETG and prints go of great
I have enjoyed using my X1 Carbon 3D printer but had an issue with the original (I was one of the kickstarters) AMS. I had to replace an AMS first stage feeder and it was LOTS of meticulous work. I never could get the AMS to work properly so I gave up and actually quit using my X1 Carbon for many months. Recently I got back into printing and tried the manual feed method. It works but it doesn't seem as nice as having a working AMS so I decided to buy a new Ams (being that they are on sale) and hope that the quality of the AMS is more reliable. I do have to say that Bambu Labs has been very good at responding to questions and I like the fact that they continue to improve the X1 Carbon slicer/software. They seem to really care about the high end quality of their product and it is refreshing to see that they continue to move forward. It's great to get back in the 3D printing hobby.
I keep the wall generator on Classic still, Arachne always leaves gaps that I have been too lazy to figure out how to get rid of lol. I have x3 X1C's, x2 P1P's and x2 AMS and so far, I haven't had too many issues. I have had a few minor issues that they were quick to get back to me with suggestions that worked. So far I have been really happy with them. I just tried a new ABS profile and wow, the prints are literally perfect, very happy there as well. I also built a Voron 2.4 recently for a larger build volume and am enjoying that process as well. Great video and I hope it helps a lot of people make their choices one way or the other.
I am now trying to pick one option among PIP and XIC, and am especially interested in fabrication of heat resistant parts (PC, PAHT-CF). I saw your comment and cannot help myself other than ask you - do you think PIP can handle these filaments well with enclosure? I believe, some tweaks and repairs would be easier on PIP rather than XIC - and as we will have a lot of users, it might be an important aspect... Would LOVE to receive any insight from you!
@@mariampogosova8295 Hey, in all honesty, I have had issues with both of my P1P's (nothing major, but enough to keep them from printing well). By the time you mod the P1P's to match the X1C, you'll have spent as much if not more money than just buying the X1C. I know it costs more but they are the more solid choice in my opinion. However, if you are going to try and run a print farm, obviously the added cost will add up quickly. I have a 7 printer farm myself so I understand that aspect, but the X1C's have been more reliable for me personally. Plus, with having a solid "built in" enclosure, the X1C will print those filaments no problem (plus they have the better nozzle to do so, you would have to swap the P1P's).
My only small issue with X1C has been multi-color with hundreds of changes, using carboard spools (eSun, edes taped). 1% of changes, the filament gets a problem... but 90% of it is due to the poor spool. Beyond that, X1C is a bliss.
For sure but they have replaced and upgraded parts, major upgrades in firmware, over a year in is practically version 1.7. I agree, it has gotten dramatically better, even the AMS units now with stronger motors. 👍
I love love love mine. I can fix anything. Anything. So fixing it, occasionally, is not wanted but willl be tolerated. Don't know what I'd do without it, now.
Mine will arrive tomorrow. It is my first printer, and I've actively put off buying a printer from the very early days because I'm not really interested in 3D printing itself, I'm interested in owning one or more tools that can efficiently make niche parts that I cannot easily find elsewhere. I'd finally had my fill of spending several hours on a weekend afternoon looking for an obscure part that I could easily model in about an hour, so I did some research and landed on either Prusa or Bambu. I ultimately decided on the Bambu because about 50% of the parts I need are for outdoor use, and therefore, ASA capability out-of-the-box is important to me. The Bambu represented a better value proposition in that regard. We'll see how it goes!
I too had to send my unit in and get a new one. A couple months later I am having a similar issue with my heatbed. I got into trying to check the cable and the instructions were similarly incomplete and it appears that my system was shipped missing parts. I am a little disappointed with the number of issues I have had with this thing considering how much the system cost. When it does print it does a great job but my operation tempo doesn't have a lot of tolerance for a tool that fails every couple months, sometimes requiring weeks to get back up and running.
I used to have the Mk3 4 years ago but it required a good deal of tinkering and even though it was fun I decided to give it to my son who makes it sing songs even to this day (obviously he's more skilled at this then I am). I recently purchased the UniFormation GKTwo Resin printer ~2 months ago and completely love it but there are applications that a filimanet printer would lend itself better so based on a slew of videos including this one I ordered the X1 over the Mk4 today and can't wait to have the same experience many others have had and of course 2 printers are better then one ;-) Thanks for the video!!!!
It has for sure been more maintenance than I had thought it was going to be when I bought it. Overall I am super satisfied with my purchase though and would gladly buy it again. It did push me to finally take on Klipper and have since upgraded a good number of my old printers. That has probably been its biggest impact on me, making me realize how badly other printers suck.
I too had to replace the bed cable and oh man, was that a time-consuming and tedious task. They really need to update their design to make this type of maintenance work easier. Otherwise, I've been pleased with the printer as a whole.
Knowing that the bed cable is a common issue, is there anything a new owner can do as a preventive measure to mitigate this? Like adding more insulation where it's rubbing and wearing out?
A friend's son bought one with an AMS and LOVES it. My concern for myself is the noise level. Thank you for a great video detailing your experiences with the unit.
It is an excellent printer, but very loud, but at least it’s so fast that prints that would need to go overnight on my Ender can now be done in a 😊 of a day instead!
@@Aikano9 I have a FLSun v400 but I rarely go over 200 mm/s. So I'm more concerned about quality and noise than outright speed. That is just a "me" thing.
The X1C is on my list to completely replace my existing 11 printers (looking to offload them, then just start over with Bambu)... but I haven't decided if I want to wait to see if they release a X1C++ (or what ever the next iteration is) before I bite the bullet all over again.
Didn't send all of my order yet says it's complete, ordered the package and bought an extra reel holder so I could do 8 colors. Tried emailing no response, called the number on the receipt and got a telemarketer in florida. My bank is dealing with this and if they want the unused package back they can pay the shipping.. Was so excited and now disappointed. Thought buying it in the USA would make a difference. Glad others are enjoying it.
Just got a good PEI bed from Bamboo. I print mostly in PLA so that’s been my favorite print bed surface. I haven gotten the camera working in real time yet and the directions on line haven’t helped. I’m using a WYZE camera I’ve had for years just sitting on top the printer.
I've been using my P1P so much that I almost forgot how to use the other printer I have. P1P has been the single easiest pinter to use along with Bambu Slicer/OrcaSlicer.
Although X1C is better that MK4, I have no doubt I will go to MK4. Because it is still a good printer, and mostly because every printer needs support from time to time, and maintenance. Opening a ticket and wait x business days is not good enough for maker who owns one printer. And please: this sounds bad when you refer to "nasty" comments as "bad apples". These are customers who are not happy with the product. The day Bamboo will mature same Prusa is, I will run to buy their products. Until then, Prusa is the long term solution.
I would like to hear more about print quality / finish & dimensional accuracy at the high speeds offered by the X1 Carbon. As a hobbist who prints functional parts that require dimensional accuracy and smooth finish, I wonder just how useful high speed printing is given these priorities. To date, I have been unable to find any information regarding this topic and would appreciate your input.
Very comprehensive review, I appreciate how you looked into every aspect of owning one : from using one to support & even community. Hopefully Bambu Lab sees this.
@@ka0skontrol504So you support sending all your original designs and patent prototypes to corporations, governments and individuals? You really think that rights agreement would either be written to protect you, or honored by criminal organizations? Man you're trusting!
I did the same thing just figured it out and ordered a cable which was the fastest route. I agree with you 100% when you say if this is your first/maybe even second printer dont expect to repair yourself.
I've only got around 150 hours on my X1C, but I've only had a couple failures, and they were my fault through either moisture in the filament or using the wrong plate for a filament that doesn't bond well to it. Everything has worked flawlessly otherwise.
Love my P1P, once I get some more sales in my shop, I plan to just keep buying more. Eventually I'll pick up an X1C, but the P1Ps are phenomenal and make prototyping new products enjoyable and so fast.
Bought the P1P so far very happy printed over 2 full rolls so far only a few mistakes Have to say my fault . This is my first 3d printer love it so far printed enclosure put the glass top on waiting for door and sides putting top on temp 86 degrees inside raised it 16 degrees. Had porinter 8 days
@@ModBotArmy Like everyone else in this hobby I just have so many ABS filaments and don't really want to buy another spool which will be never used due to horrible color...
@@hobbyistnotes your telling me haha I did a purge when I moved out of state. Was able to donate quite a few roles that I hadn’t used in years. Great for at least prototyping if nothing else.
Noise level, small bed(for my needs) and AMS waste is why I'm holding of purchasing one. Waiting on Prusa XL with toolchanger which will suit my needs better. Its just been a long wait but hopefully any day now.
👍 on video for comments on Bambu improving post-sales support and future revisions focusing on easier repair for the end user, and finally, for a business service plan.
I am looking at this printer to replace a old de-funked printer to print ABS, reinforced nylon & Acrylic for engineering prototypes and new designs. I appreciate your review as it was not long and drawn out but very informative.
Let’s stop defining ‘tinkerers’ as people who want to fiddle/mod/upgrade/repair their 3D printers. Some people want to tinker with their projects, not their printers.
I agree. I'm currently researching printers and thinking of saving up for a bambulab printer. I LOVE building PCs. And highly prefer to tinker with my PC instead of a 3d printer. I get it, it could be fun, and since I watched a billion videos of how to set up your 3d printers it seems more annoying than tinkering with a PC. I think it's because for me it seems a lot more stressful and time consuming to do both tinkering with my printer and my 3d models all together. And since I'm new and only wanted to just print stuff instead. I rather not waste time trying to calibrate my printer a bunch of time and maintaining it.
I have been a tinkerer my whole life, longer than 3D printing has been in the hands of hobbyists, so no, we will not be redefining a word that has been in use for decades to fit your niche use case.
Very helpful. Thank you. I am looking at this printer and found your review helpful. I am not wanting to be a tinkerer so I am looking for something that just works. Maybe there isn't a 3D printer yet like that. Sounds like this one is close. Thanks again.
i'm thinking of getting a x1c for my first 3d printer, not sure if this is overkill and i'm sure one of there lower spec ones would do the job just as well, there seems some good black friday deals on the x1c i'm looking at it as a long term investment
I have been watching a lot of videos on this printer, I have an invention and looking to make them from carbon fiber. I don't know how many I might need to keep up with demand and I want to make sure that I start out right and not have 10 or more of the printers and regret buying them down the road. So far they look pretty good and will have to try one and build from there, thank you for your videos
For 1.5 years I've been watching countless videos of every new release. I always thought I still have to wait because the printer that is even better will come soon... something just a bit bigger so i dragged me through with my 2 printers (with printer technology at the beginning of 2022) and at least one of these 2 prints prints the whole day thure.... But now I have to say, the printer I'm waiting for didn't come so quickly.... Bambulab's step was just too big for others to catch up quick. So I ordered the Carbon X1 with AMS today. Spaghetti detector, independent filament change and finally no more SD cards. Reason enough to finally dispose of the 2 x 500 USD 3D printer acquisition costs from the beginning of 2022. I draw fast - faster than searching spare parts (unfortunately you can't print everything yet :-(. What I save in search time is unbelievable! Once I even printed a part where inexperienced customer support of a company delivered the wrong part 2 times and took 5 more emails before they even know what was needed. Who still does that, better draw and print right away. Got to say, draw faster than constantly swapping filament and jumping back and forth with SD cards.... Well, thanks Bambulab, get that thing to me ASAP :-)
I wouldn't expect everyday users to get the kind of service ModBot gets. I got stuck setting it up my PIP and started a ticket. It was like 2 months before Bambu got back to me, and I had solved it by then.
Can you elaborate on why you'd suggest others for a tinkerer? And what would you recommend for a tinkerer? One who wants the ability to print carbon fiber. Thank you!
Great video as always. Clean, concise, and no unneeded fluff. I'm not surprised to see that you like the machine but dang that bed cable was wildly difficult!
How much wearing of the carbon tubes have you incurred? this is the main concern that is stopping me buying the X1 Carbon and AMS, other YTbers that have reviewed the X1C have not answered my question which just made me more inquisitive regarding this. I have also tried to find out if they have a sevice centre in the UK without success, can you link to a list of service centres please.
@@coltenmeredith8899 I know that the rods are not replaceable by the user thats why I am asking for a list of the service centres THAT DO EXIST the Texas one was mentioned in the video
@@AndrewAHayes There is NO service repair center anywhere in the world outside of shenzhen china. The place in texas he referred to is one of their global distributions centers, located in austin, TX. They ARE NOT a repair center, only a warehouse where printers/parts are ship from. My P1P came from that warehouse, and when it was dead within 10hrs of delivery, I hand dropped it back off at that warehouse and did a chargeback since bambu lab wouldn't accept a refund. 100% of all bambu lab repairs are done in china, nowhere else, not the USA, UK, EU...anywhere. Only china If you ever have a problem with your BL printer, you ship it to your nearest distribution warehouse, they then ship it back to china for repair, then back to the distribution warehouse again. Do yourself a favor, save the headaches and just avoid bambu labs. there are several other printers just as fast with outstanding quality and support.
Why I will not buy a x1 carbon (yet): My plan was to use the printer for usage for my own designs. As an mechanical engineer I was surpriced that all kind of engineering filament was possible. So I have seen alot of youtubers. 1) if there is no wifi in house; then the printer will not update! Downloading by computer en updating through sd card is not possible. 2) then only with sd card you can put a model into the machine. And this will be fiddling with the small card 3) there is no usb connection possible to the computer OR through a wired network 4) only windows 10 and later, but that's ok
Hi, I stumbled across your video by chance. I haven’t purchased a 3D Printer, yet! I was all set on the Bambu X1C but then I made the mistake of conducting my research on their official and unofficial Facebook groups. Like you said about the rotten apples shouting the loudest, wow! They have put a seed of doubt in my mind over numerous things; the reliability, the noise of the machine, the support or lack there of to name a few thing’s. So where do I currently sit… well and truly wedged on the fence without having the desire to buy just yet. I feel frustrated as I really do want to get into 3D printing.
You can't go wrong with a prusa MK4. Seeing prusas 10+ years in the space and how they've responded to feedback and issues with their printers made me and over 100k others loyal to their products. While the bambu is very fast and nice, it's also quite loud and as seen in the video; very difficult or in some cases impossible to replace parts like the carbon rods which have been seen many times to rapidly deteriorate. They're also seen to have UA-camr favoritism by giving modbot and a few others in the 3D printing space quicker/any support at all.
Go for the X1C - it's so rewarding to make your first print right out of the box. Creating your own designed parts is so rewarding - I wouldn't want to postpone my 3D print experience for longer! I got my X1C as my first 3D printer at all and I didn't have a single issue by now - I didn't even look up where to open a support case because there is no need to! I hope this answers your doubts - don't believe a small group of idiots on facebook - this is a well conceived printer! If you decide to buy do yourself a favor and choose the combo with AMS - you'll miss it otherwise in a few weeks! Happy printing! ;-)
One thing I haven't been able to find on this printer is how does it do with ACTUAL multi-material, not just color changes. Swapping between two PLA colors is a completely different task to swapping between PETG and ABS for example due to the high risk of clogging if not purged correctly. How does the x1 handle this?
I can't find the reference with a quick search, but my memory is that it's strongly recommended not to use materials with very different temperature profiles on the same print job. My personal feeling is that the AMS is more for multi-colour or for things like disolvable supports where the support and structural materials use the same temperature settings.
3D Print General covered this exact topic in a video from a few months ago, and the conclusion was that it is a bad idea to use materials with different nozzle temperatures - the risk of clogs is pretty severe. He also did a 16-color print all in just PLA using four AMS units, observing that there's a lot of tweaking required to minimize color bleed and even that sometimes 1) still doesn't work, and 2) produces a phenomenal amount of waste, to the point where there was a print failure because the poop chute got clogged. If I get an X1C, I would treat it strictly as a single-color, single-material printer. I truly believe that toolchanger and IDEX printers are the only great solution for multi-color, multi-material printing...and even then, it seems like all the major IDEX and toolchanger printers either cost a fortune or require an excessive amount of work to maintain and keep calibrated.
@@justinchamberlin4195 what's the name of the video where he tests it? I've watched his reviews and I've heard him say he doesn't recommend it but never actually recall him demonstrating it
Single nozzle multi-material printers have, and always will be, a bad idea. Using one nozzle for for multiple colors is already a wasteful process (both for time and material) but add in a completely different material and it's a recipe for clogs and issues in general, plus even more time to wait on heating and cooling. Proper multi-material printing should use multiple nozzles, whether that's IDEX, a tool changer, or my personal favorite, "pivot" or "lift" toolheads. As an aside, it would be really nice to see pivot-toolheads (for lack of a better term) get more development. They don't ooze and you can switch nozzles in under a second. The biggest drawbacks are the extra weight, complications in making them direct drive, and the need to have a servo or solenoid on the print head to switch between nozzles.
Good video, which brings up both positives and negatives. Personally I would love to have one with AMS, so I could print multicolored parts, but no room in the budget for that sadly. It costs something around $2300 here for the X1C with AMS.
hello! i got a bambu x1 carbon that i tryed to return after 10 days of use, and ever since, bambu is shoving sand into my eyes and did not want to retake the printer, even beeing inside the time frame. this was in April.
I really need some advice. I am going to be building my hydroponic garden and want to get a 3 d printer instead of buying my towers. Please what is your recommendation for a printer that can print food-safe hydroponic towers. Which printer would you recommend?
New to 3d printing, this is my first printer and really enjoying it. Thank you for the 1 year update. Maybe a vid or some suggestions on how to protect the bed cable from getting damaged. Would be greatly appreciated.
Being a long-term tinkerer of 3D Printing, I am at a point where I want a "buy and print" machine with less repairing and upgrading that has been required for a while. The X1 is on my watchlist as the solution, but I think it will be more than likely the next version. How does a filament dryer work with it though? Is the AMS a dryer also?
Considering the XIC or just adding another MK3S+ to my fleet. Would be my first Bambu Lab printer. Would you recomend I stay with the faithful Prusa to keep pumping out prints or the XIC to decrease print times and hope all the updates to the printed make it last longer and keep it's print consistancy?
That is a tough call. There is value in sticking with the same printer. Both sliced files, familiarity, and spare parts. However, the speed output and material capabilities of these printers is nuts and could help you to expand your business. I am almost tempted to say it’s worth getting one X1C to dip your toes and see how you feel. Best case it ends up being a game changer for you and your business. Worst case you have a blazing fast prototype printer for new designs/models. Just one perspective. Ultimately only you can decide what is right for you.
Thanks for skating this very informative video. Youve answered a lot of questions that I had. Im still looking and definately considering making the purchase. Im long overdue for an X1. Hopefully I'll get my hands on one soon.
Based on what I have seen and heard unless you are a UA-camr or influencer from the community helpful support from bambu is rough. I pretty much accepted the fact that the little guy is on his own with this printer. I seem have that same issue with the walls when working with ASA I use Orca and tune in each roll and it seems to fix the issue. Definitely feels like they haven't gotten the scanner working right for ASA, ABS, and non-CF Nylons. Works great with PLA and PETG.
Just because of the last part of your video BL deserves recognition. All the other manufacturers where just cashing the check without any major innovations. Mainly looking at you, Prusa. Bambu Lab did a great job with the X1 Carbon and that job put them in the lead overnight. Now Prusa and everybody else are playing catch up and we the consumers are the beneficiaries, so thank you Bambu Lab, keep up the good work and keep everyone chasing after you
"All the other manufacturers where just cashing the check without any major innovations. Mainly looking at you, Prusa" Remind me again, what "innovations" did bambu lab bring to the table? And I mean things that actually make a difference. 100% of a bambu lab printer is built using open source innovations that already existed. The heated PCB bed, the magnetic removable PEI sheets, induction probe bed leveling, those were invented by prusa. You're literally supporting a company that uses open source innovations, then keeps them locked down while trying to patent them.
Considering this as my first ever printer, hoping it’s a smooth transition into the 3d world, I just want it for bits and pieces in my wood workshop so no real heavy use
full honest review. I like it! I'm hoping to buy one soon but waiting till after christmas. I'm a Ender 3 user with 3 printers but sick of the tinkering. I want a Core x y thats going to work out the box and seeing other videos it makes me want to hit the buy button now.
Since it was a 1 yr review and the review is 1 year old, have you seen any improvement in customer service especially response time? Maybe it’s gotten worse. I think Bambu Labs is the DJI of printers. The first to pull everything together with the Phantom 1 and then expand into the commercial market and improve all entries. They too had customer service issues at the beginning. I think in 10 years BL will dominate the market. About to pull the trigger on the X1C. I am a newbie so have been spending a lot of time on UA-cam. Like you, I want to make parts.
Great video, on the nose with key issues and thank you for making this video and giving feedback on slicing issues, I haven't had any major issues that required posting or anything breaking since receiving it back in mid-September. So far all the info required has been from their wiki, forum, and discord server. It's asham you get to see more than usual the negativity towards a brand, I hope that changes, a well-working printer you almost get not to hear. This printer works great, thank you again for this video.
Guess I'll stick with my prusa mk3s for a few more years. It has been running flawlessly for years. I have nearly a year of active print time on the machine and the only maintenance I've done is clean the bed and oil the rails.
I am eager to buy one, but I am kind of waiting on the 1.1 version. Hopefully a little cheaper and some design improvements. Just like you should never by the first year model of a new car design... Plus I finally got my BIQU printer working very well with a new direct-drive extruder, so I need to get some value from all the work it took to get that working!
Got my P1P a couple days ago, which is very similar. Been cranking out parts like crazy and haven’t stopped since. The auto calibration is a lifesaver and makes me actually enjoy the hobby again
Wouldnt say its similar
@@athemis13 How is it not similar? lol
@@neufxtrois because x1c costs 2x more and has like 2x more features
This printer has changed 3d printing for me. I use mine for work so its awesome to just click print instead of spending my free time messing with stuff
Daniel,
Glad to see your experience is still overall positive. I've had my X1CC for about 6 months now and I love it for most of my printing. I have a long running issue with Bambu (since February) that is preventing me from fully utilizing the printer for Voron Print it Forward use. In short, any time I print a horizontal hole (in the z face of a print) - like hex nut holes or heat set insert holes, they print squished (like an oval). There are several other owners having this experience and we have open support cases with Bambu. We're convinced it's a hardware issue (I can print the exact same STL on my Voron and it prints pristine) and are working the process thru with Bambu Support.
Other than that, it prints all my Etsy items near flawlessly and I enjoy the hands off, turnkey printing operation.
Thank you for the review!
have you checked the tension of the x and y? That can happen with the stretching of the belt
This doesn't minimize the issue (and I've seen it also on my machine, though I don't get it on the sideways D shapes I use to insert square nuts) but I thought Print-it-Forward had a rule that all parts had to be printed on a Voron?
@@markburton5292 I've cleaned and retentioned over 20 times.... Literally
@@davydatwood3158 I'll have to check that. Thanks for the heads up.
@@davydatwood3158 well - the vetting rules do infer it must be a Voron that creates the parts - but it does not explicitly state that: "Which Voron Model(s) you have and are intending to use for PIF" - it's likely that the vetting team would reject my submissions if I were to say it was an X1CC
Got mine friday, and I`ve just started job after job with PERFECT results! I`ve never been so blown away by a FDM printer before! By far THE best printer i've ever experienced in my 11+ years of 3D printing :D Ive had a few errors, but that was my own fault, among others putting the bed back in backwards and not realising that for like almost 10mins of troubleshooting.. to my defense, Im down with the flue, and tierd AF sooo.. heh
Sold my Voron 2.4r2 350 to get a Bambu X1C instead and it's a total paradigm shift in terms of useability. So far my X1C has been the most reliable out of all of my printers and I am very happy with my purchase.
What was unusable about the voron? We’re in the constant upgrade trap?
@@slackreviews had to make constant adjustments, I just didn’t want to be tinkering on it all the time.
@@tylerebowers I have a Voron 2.4, 250. I am in the midst of some upgrades and it’s been an issue after issue. One step forward with 2 steps back. I am dangerously close to pulling the trigger on an X1C so I can just print. I enjoy tinkering but 😵💫
Hi Daniel, I have been searching for a good printer for a noobie like myself in this realm. I've wanted the bambu carbon for xmas but had to put off. Then the P1P came out and I was like wow - now which way do I go... My son gave me, or should I say let me borrow, his Geeetech A20M printer. I immediately upgraded the extruders to all metal and replaced his hotend since it was totally clogged. I also adjusted all the rails and bed to get rid of all play as well as replace the removable magnetic flex platform. Installed the auto 3D Touch and upgraded the firmware to suit.
My son was impressed and wanted to do the same upgrades but didnt have the extra funds since he go married. I asked why impressed since he knew my background. He just said that was 30yrs ago... freak'n kids. I'm still waiting for him to drop off some of his new filament since his old PETG, that was on it, is really not working well. (1yr since he played with it)
ANYWAY - I want to make Flight SIMMs and make glass style cockpits. Maybe relive my youth and build a few classic muscle cars. So which printer should I get; the X1 Carbon or the P1P w/AMS?
PS... Don't tell the wife...lol
Personally I would wear with the X1Carbon Combo over the P1P, but both are excellent printers.
I was in the same boat as you, a friend of mine gave me a a20m but I could never get it working properly though I never tried really taking it apart out of fear of not knowing how to put it back together. It sat for months after trying to change the extruder out because the one that comes with it is horrible. All it does it clog up and cause issues for me. When I tried flashing firmware I must of done something wrong because the screen won't even turn on now. I gave up and last week I ordered a sovol sv06. I couldn't be happier with it so far. Every print I've had fail was user error and it hasn't been very many and on top of that I started off printing lw PLA right away instead of regular pla. If I could of afforded it I would of definitely went with a p1p or x1c. The x1c is really amazing in so many aspects but the speed is what I like about it. It can cut print times in half
@@Aikano9 I am leaning towards the X1 just because I can do ABS and not really worry about the fumes since it is enclosed and has a filter.
Now, this is what I call feedback and a long term review. Thanks for all of these valuable points, very valuable for my decision making!
It's nice to see an update!
You should do that for more of your printers and projects! Long term experience outweighs first review impressions.
i wanted a x1c but the bed size throw me off, hopefully there is something in the work for a larger bed size like 300*300 or even 350*350 would be nice and update the design espcially on ams for some of it downful. For now sticking to my enderwire and voron 0.1.
@@bomas_ulz i agree ideally linear rails, but at the same time that is kinda down to how thick the rods are, there is some voron trident and 2.4 350mm mods out there with carbon rods instead of rails adn they seem fine and expected considering it was almost a solid rod not a hollow one.
@@bomas_ulz yeha that is very true, if they doing a bigger printer defo linear rails is the way to go, high pretension ones espcially on the x would be ideal. But carbon rods are still have it use inturns of weight savings if it been designed right but it would be marginal if you want decent input shaper results. Oh yeah even my enderwire is able to do p1p speeds easy 250mm/s at 12.5k accel, my voron 0.1 is way much faster than that running at 700mm/s at 100k accel but requires a bit more redesign to get consistence printing at that type of speed but looking to go a bit faster with future servo upgrades. However i do want a bambu on the side that doesnt require tinkering just prints. Would get a prusa if it wasn't overpriced
@@bomas_ulz yeah that decent, i managed to get my v0.1 tuned reasonabily well to print asa at 300mm/s at 50k for a standard pif print, but i am looking to make some design changes to see if i can get same quality print at faster speed, cooling is currently the main one i am looking to do. Doing a cpap setup that takes the chamber air which is around 60 degrees and use that to cool the parts should allow me to go faster, aswell an awd setup for it that still allow me to enclose the printer. (Basically a make shift scale down vzbot lol)
@@bomas_ulz haha yeah get ur wife addicted to 3d printing then you dont need to justufy spending money on more printers lol. Yeah i going with nice quality as a focus on my enderwire but speed on my v0.1. Want to get a vz330 kit aswell later on once simon and team developthe kits more.
I got my X1C and AMS mid january and have absolutely loved it. I have a prusa mk3 with a revo, a heavily modified ender 3 and a voron 0.1 my prusa and X1C are both workhorse printers that i never have to mess with. My ender is a hobby project and i love my voron. I am pretty invested into printing and tinkering with my printers, but have two printers that are always ready to print is so nice. I have put over 800 hours on the x1 all using the AMS and have not had a single issue with it. The only “modifications” i’ve done to the printer are adding the bento box filter and putting a WhamBam plate on it which i couldn’t recommend enough. I have only had one or two ams clogs other than that the printer just works.
My whambam plates came in today for my x1c. Does the horrible smell for the plates go away? It smells like bad gasoline.
Does the wham bam plate affect the LiDAR?
@Stanley Cubrik it didn't look like if affected my plate. I think it's only rough surfaces that causes lidar issues. I'll report back if I have any future issues.
@Stanley Cubrik the whambam plate is amazing for printing holes, like honeycomb shapes. It fixed the issue I've been having with honeycomb prints not sticking to the plate well, even with Elmer's extra strength glue stick. I used no glue on the whambam and the PLA stuck like a champ.
Thanks for this! I've been fairly satisfied with my X1C. Recently started to have minor mechanical issues that needed tending to, most noticeably my first nozzle clog! Which took forever to deal with - plastic had managed to back up into the cold end of the nozzle assembly when the hotend fan plug wasn't seated properly after a nozzle change - but eventually I realised that "this is hardened steel. My pin vise uses cheap AliExpress bits. There's no way they're harder than the nozzle." And then used a 1mm and 1.8mm drill bit in my pin vise to clean it out.
Other than that, my only major issue has involved some low-quality ABS not sticking to the damn bed, but I think I've finally figured out how to cajole it. I think I was overheating it in the drying box before it got into the printer. So that's not the X1C's fault!
The heads-up about the bed cable is good to know, I'll keep an eye out for symptoms. I'm about 6 months behind you (and suspect my duty cycle is lower) so this gives my a good sense of what to watch out for in the future.
So sad to hear about people being jerks on the forums etc, though. :(
I have been doing 3 D printing since 3 years, started with flash frog , then returned it to get Qidi which it was a nightmare but great CS. and two years got Creality Ender 3 Pro S1 which worked half the time.Last week I bought My X1C which is a game changer for me , slice, send and print and so far it works. I am glad I did choose it after seeing many reviews.
I've had my XC1 since Christmas, nothing has broken or worn out yet. I just did my 1st maintenance I must have run 30 rolls of PLA through it. I've had 2 jambs at the AMS one which was caused when it was switching to a new roll. I just bought my 2nd XC1 along with a bunch of spare parts, Textured PEI plates etc. I have 2 Crealitys sitting next to the XC1s collecting dust. I have become a Bambu Fan Boi
What really worries me the most is if the printer ever has to go back for carbon rod repairs.
Another happy X1 owner here. Out of my 4 printers the X1 has become my goto printer. I never thought I would enjoy using something more than my Prusa. Speaking of the cable do you think there's anything preventative that can be done before the failure? I wouldn't mind taking it apart to change the routing or throw some tie wraps on it if you noticed any areas for improvement. Also the X1 has pushed me to work on upgrading my other 3 printers with Klipper to bring them more inline with the performance of the X1.
So you support sending all your original designs and patent prototypes to corporations, governments and individuals? You really think that rights agreement would either be written to protect you, or honored by criminal organizations? Man you're trusting!
@@chrissinclair4442 You know there's a LAN mode right? or you can use the sd card. I suppose you don't use Fusion 360, Onshape, Solidworks etc or any other cloud based cad software which house the actual models and not just the gcode.
@@Oliver1071 only things I would use is OpenScad and whatever slicers fill my need.
@@chrissinclair4442acting like a dick doesn't make people side with you
I have had my X1C for a few months now. Great machine! I have had very few problems and most being self induced. I print mostly pla, pla+ and Tpu. The machine has been reliable and I bought some parts with the original purchase but so far no need for any of them. I did switch to an after market PEI built plate because I do not like using the glue stick. Looking at buying a second but waiting hoping they will introduce a bigger machine.
Which aftermarket one are you using? I'm new to this and hate using glue.
I have a friend with one of these and he prints some incredible stout parts. I cant wait to get one for myself.
I had the same issue with the cable. A wire had an open. I repaired the wire. Bambu did send a replacement. Still, this is the best printer I'll ever own.
I have had mine for a few weeks so far I'm liking it alot. I am happy that I got the X1C with ams.
I’m one month in with my x1C and I love it. Only issues I have is the AMS slot 3 tends to not pull out filament all the time
I got an Bambu X1c about 6 months ago and have been running it almost non-stop since. This is my 5th printer and has been more reliable thank my Anycubics, crealitys or elegoo. Overall very impressed with the printer but in the end this will always be a "tinkerers" hobby. I don't mind doing maintenance, but the less the better
I've been going back and forth between this and the Mk4 (for purchase), and you tipped me to the X1 Carbon. I appreciate your knowledge of the printer and acknowledgment that it's not perfect, but that Bambu has been hard at work to improve it.
Depends: Do you want China to have all the data that goes through your printer (including that camera)? Then go with BL. Do you care about not letting your IP be used against your wishes? Then don’t go with BL.
Do you own a cellphone? If so, enough said
I've got a MK4, but it's killing me that 1) waited so long to receive it and 2) MMU3 is still yet to be finalized and ready to ship for MK4. I'm seriously considering purchasing an X1C for the AMS feature as I've been waiting 2 months for a dev update from Prusa on MMU3 for MK4.
I’ve been waiting to click Buy on one of these but the noise and a few other things have me waiting to see what the next incarnation brings. Maybe a bigger print volume?
We have X1 carbon at work for over year now and could not be happier - its such a great tool - we where not super expierienced before and we where using Rise 3d E2 solid but comparitivly on slow and expensive site - now we have 2 X1 carbons and we have so little issues - only one worth mentioning is a lile bit of warping on big ABS prints - becouse of that we Print mostly PETG and prints go of great
I have enjoyed using my X1 Carbon 3D printer but had an issue with the original (I was one of the kickstarters) AMS. I had to replace an AMS first stage feeder and it was LOTS of meticulous work. I never could get the AMS to work properly so I gave up and actually quit using my X1 Carbon for many months. Recently I got back into printing and tried the manual feed method. It works but it doesn't seem as nice as having a working AMS so I decided to buy a new Ams (being that they are on sale) and hope that the quality of the AMS is more reliable. I do have to say that Bambu Labs has been very good at responding to questions and I like the fact that they continue to improve the X1 Carbon slicer/software. They seem to really care about the high end quality of their product and it is refreshing to see that they continue to move forward. It's great to get back in the 3D printing hobby.
Thanks for the update on the 3D printer.
I keep the wall generator on Classic still, Arachne always leaves gaps that I have been too lazy to figure out how to get rid of lol. I have x3 X1C's, x2 P1P's and x2 AMS and so far, I haven't had too many issues. I have had a few minor issues that they were quick to get back to me with suggestions that worked. So far I have been really happy with them.
I just tried a new ABS profile and wow, the prints are literally perfect, very happy there as well. I also built a Voron 2.4 recently for a larger build volume and am enjoying that process as well. Great video and I hope it helps a lot of people make their choices one way or the other.
I am now trying to pick one option among PIP and XIC, and am especially interested in fabrication of heat resistant parts (PC, PAHT-CF). I saw your comment and cannot help myself other than ask you - do you think PIP can handle these filaments well with enclosure? I believe, some tweaks and repairs would be easier on PIP rather than XIC - and as we will have a lot of users, it might be an important aspect... Would LOVE to receive any insight from you!
@@mariampogosova8295 Hey, in all honesty, I have had issues with both of my P1P's (nothing major, but enough to keep them from printing well). By the time you mod the P1P's to match the X1C, you'll have spent as much if not more money than just buying the X1C.
I know it costs more but they are the more solid choice in my opinion. However, if you are going to try and run a print farm, obviously the added cost will add up quickly. I have a 7 printer farm myself so I understand that aspect, but the X1C's have been more reliable for me personally.
Plus, with having a solid "built in" enclosure, the X1C will print those filaments no problem (plus they have the better nozzle to do so, you would have to swap the P1P's).
My only small issue with X1C has been multi-color with hundreds of changes, using carboard spools (eSun, edes taped). 1% of changes, the filament gets a problem... but 90% of it is due to the poor spool.
Beyond that, X1C is a bliss.
I've only had my X1C for a couple weeks, but so far it's been nothing short of amazing.
For sure but they have replaced and upgraded parts, major upgrades in firmware, over a year in is practically version 1.7. I agree, it has gotten dramatically better, even the AMS units now with stronger motors. 👍
I love love love mine. I can fix anything. Anything. So fixing it, occasionally, is not wanted but willl be tolerated. Don't know what I'd do without it, now.
Mine will arrive tomorrow. It is my first printer, and I've actively put off buying a printer from the very early days because I'm not really interested in 3D printing itself, I'm interested in owning one or more tools that can efficiently make niche parts that I cannot easily find elsewhere. I'd finally had my fill of spending several hours on a weekend afternoon looking for an obscure part that I could easily model in about an hour, so I did some research and landed on either Prusa or Bambu. I ultimately decided on the Bambu because about 50% of the parts I need are for outdoor use, and therefore, ASA capability out-of-the-box is important to me. The Bambu represented a better value proposition in that regard. We'll see how it goes!
Overall great printer, except for the heat bed cable issue which was a bit of a pain. Once installed, was seamless. Highly recommended
I too had to send my unit in and get a new one. A couple months later I am having a similar issue with my heatbed. I got into trying to check the cable and the instructions were similarly incomplete and it appears that my system was shipped missing parts. I am a little disappointed with the number of issues I have had with this thing considering how much the system cost. When it does print it does a great job but my operation tempo doesn't have a lot of tolerance for a tool that fails every couple months, sometimes requiring weeks to get back up and running.
If you can't afford to be down every few months, get a stratasys.
I used to have the Mk3 4 years ago but it required a good deal of tinkering and even though it was fun I decided to give it to my son who makes it sing songs even to this day (obviously he's more skilled at this then I am). I recently purchased the UniFormation GKTwo Resin printer ~2 months ago and completely love it but there are applications that a filimanet printer would lend itself better so based on a slew of videos including this one I ordered the X1 over the Mk4 today and can't wait to have the same experience many others have had and of course 2 printers are better then one ;-) Thanks for the video!!!!
It has for sure been more maintenance than I had thought it was going to be when I bought it. Overall I am super satisfied with my purchase though and would gladly buy it again.
It did push me to finally take on Klipper and have since upgraded a good number of my old printers. That has probably been its biggest impact on me, making me realize how badly other printers suck.
This is something i didn’t want to deal with. Went with a 2.4 instead, +800hrs of printing and not a single failure
lol no failures, seriously thanks for the laugh.
@@jon9947 hmmmm that’s why i bought 4 more and cancelled all my bambu lab preorders lol call me a liar if you want.
@@Guenounovitch lol that's a lie.
@@Guenounovitchwhat’s a 2.4? I want a 3D printer with no failures.
573 hours so far and no issues, Im the type that likes to be prepared though so large pile of spare parts that may never get used
I too had to replace the bed cable and oh man, was that a time-consuming and tedious task. They really need to update their design to make this type of maintenance work easier. Otherwise, I've been pleased with the printer as a whole.
@@bomas_ulz Yes the non open-source aspects of the product will definitely become more and more salient over time as the machine starts to wear off.
Knowing that the bed cable is a common issue, is there anything a new owner can do as a preventive measure to mitigate this? Like adding more insulation where it's rubbing and wearing out?
@@manueltran1964interested in this as well :-)
A friend's son bought one with an AMS and LOVES it. My concern for myself is the noise level.
Thank you for a great video detailing your experiences with the unit.
It is an excellent printer, but very loud, but at least it’s so fast that prints that would need to go overnight on my Ender can now be done in a 😊 of a day instead!
@@Aikano9 I have a FLSun v400 but I rarely go over 200 mm/s. So I'm more concerned about quality and noise than outright speed. That is just a "me" thing.
recently been thinking about picking up a X1 so this review comes at a perfect time
The X1C is on my list to completely replace my existing 11 printers (looking to offload them, then just start over with Bambu)... but I haven't decided if I want to wait to see if they release a X1C++ (or what ever the next iteration is) before I bite the bullet all over again.
Didn't send all of my order yet says it's complete, ordered the package and bought an extra reel holder so I could do 8 colors. Tried emailing no response, called the number on the receipt and got a telemarketer in florida. My bank is dealing with this and if they want the unused package back they can pay the shipping.. Was so excited and now disappointed. Thought buying it in the USA would make a difference. Glad others are enjoying it.
I print simple parts in ABS with my X1c like PLA. Ist amazing to see, a little bit like magic.
Just got a good PEI bed from Bamboo. I print mostly in PLA so that’s been my favorite print bed surface. I haven gotten the camera working in real time yet and the directions on line haven’t helped. I’m using a WYZE camera I’ve had for years just sitting on top the printer.
I've been using my P1P so much that I almost forgot how to use the other printer I have. P1P has been the single easiest pinter to use along with Bambu Slicer/OrcaSlicer.
Although X1C is better that MK4, I have no doubt I will go to MK4. Because it is still a good printer, and mostly because every printer needs support from time to time, and maintenance. Opening a ticket and wait x business days is not good enough for maker who owns one printer. And please: this sounds bad when you refer to "nasty" comments as "bad apples". These are customers who are not happy with the product. The day Bamboo will mature same Prusa is, I will run to buy their products. Until then, Prusa is the long term solution.
I would like to hear more about print quality / finish & dimensional accuracy at the high speeds offered by the X1 Carbon. As a hobbist who prints functional parts that require dimensional accuracy and smooth finish, I wonder just how useful high speed printing is given these priorities. To date, I have been unable to find any information regarding this topic and would appreciate your input.
Very comprehensive review, I appreciate how you looked into every aspect of owning one : from using one to support & even community. Hopefully Bambu Lab sees this.
My carbon rods had very very minor abrasion after 800 hours, no issue at all. But I am never printing super fast mode, as focussed on print quality.
I love my x1 carbon combo. Best printer I’ve ever purchased.
Ditto!
Damn right!
How many printers did you buy😂
Better than any printer I've built or bought.
@@ka0skontrol504So you support sending all your original designs and patent prototypes to corporations, governments and individuals? You really think that rights agreement would either be written to protect you, or honored by criminal organizations? Man you're trusting!
I did the same thing just figured it out and ordered a cable which was the fastest route. I agree with you 100% when you say if this is your first/maybe even second printer dont expect to repair yourself.
Just to remember that if You don't open a ticket, and get authorization to do the repair yourself, You are voiding your warraty.
Love my p1p, it has worked flawless. Will be adding x1c soon
I've only got around 150 hours on my X1C, but I've only had a couple failures, and they were my fault through either moisture in the filament or using the wrong plate for a filament that doesn't bond well to it. Everything has worked flawlessly otherwise.
Love my P1P, once I get some more sales in my shop, I plan to just keep buying more. Eventually I'll pick up an X1C, but the P1Ps are phenomenal and make prototyping new products enjoyable and so fast.
Bought the P1P so far very happy printed over 2 full rolls so far only a few mistakes Have to say my fault . This is my first 3d printer love it so far printed enclosure put the glass top on waiting for door and sides putting top on temp 86 degrees inside raised it 16 degrees. Had porinter 8 days
Excuse me for little oftopick, what is that gold filament you have showed on 10:20 looking for Gold ABS to use on my V0.2 rebuild. Thanks.
It does Looks like Polymaker Gold ABS Filament 1.75mm. Is it good?
@@hobbyistnotes it is and I really like it 😊
@@ModBotArmy Like everyone else in this hobby I just have so many ABS filaments and don't really want to buy another spool which will be never used due to horrible color...
@@hobbyistnotes your telling me haha I did a purge when I moved out of state. Was able to donate quite a few roles that I hadn’t used in years. Great for at least prototyping if nothing else.
have been looking at this printer for long time now.. And have come to the conclusion that I will buy one with the AMS kit this week :D
Noise level, small bed(for my needs) and AMS waste is why I'm holding of purchasing one. Waiting on Prusa XL with toolchanger which will suit my needs better. Its just been a long wait but hopefully any day now.
👍 on video for comments on Bambu improving post-sales support and future revisions focusing on easier repair for the end user, and finally, for a business service plan.
I just got one over the weekend! This thing is amazing! So happy! I need a few more! Thanks for the input by the Way Love the channel brother!
"A few more"😬 you use them for work or something? Just curious.
I just bought an X1 Carbon like 2 hours ago!
Congratulations - you'll love your buying decision more and more each day!
Have fun replacing your warped bed. There is a 4 week wait on replacement beds.
I am looking at this printer to replace a old de-funked printer to print ABS, reinforced nylon & Acrylic for engineering prototypes and new designs. I appreciate your review as it was not long and drawn out but very informative.
I got my a week ago. It hasn’t stopped printing since day 1.
Let’s stop defining ‘tinkerers’ as people who want to fiddle/mod/upgrade/repair their 3D printers. Some people want to tinker with their projects, not their printers.
I agree. I'm currently researching printers and thinking of saving up for a bambulab printer. I LOVE building PCs. And highly prefer to tinker with my PC instead of a 3d printer. I get it, it could be fun, and since I watched a billion videos of how to set up your 3d printers it seems more annoying than tinkering with a PC. I think it's because for me it seems a lot more stressful and time consuming to do both tinkering with my printer and my 3d models all together. And since I'm new and only wanted to just print stuff instead. I rather not waste time trying to calibrate my printer a bunch of time and maintaining it.
So.. a maker not a tinkerer.. ok
That’s what a tinkerer is though.
Shut up nerd
I have been a tinkerer my whole life, longer than 3D printing has been in the hands of hobbyists, so no, we will not be redefining a word that has been in use for decades to fit your niche use case.
Very helpful. Thank you. I am looking at this printer and found your review helpful. I am not wanting to be a tinkerer so I am looking for something that just works. Maybe there isn't a 3D printer yet like that. Sounds like this one is close. Thanks again.
i'm thinking of getting a x1c for my first 3d printer, not sure if this is overkill and i'm sure one of there lower spec ones would do the job just as well, there seems some good black friday deals on the x1c i'm looking at it as a long term investment
I have been watching a lot of videos on this printer, I have an invention and looking to make them from carbon fiber. I don't know how many I might need to keep up with demand and I want to make sure that I start out right and not have 10 or more of the printers and regret buying them down the road. So far they look pretty good and will have to try one and build from there, thank you for your videos
For 1.5 years I've been watching countless videos of every new release. I always thought I still have to wait because the printer that is even better will come soon... something just a bit bigger so i dragged me through with my 2 printers (with printer technology at the beginning of 2022) and at least one of these 2 prints prints the whole day thure.... But now I have to say, the printer I'm waiting for didn't come so quickly.... Bambulab's step was just too big for others to catch up quick. So I ordered the Carbon X1 with AMS today. Spaghetti detector, independent filament change and finally no more SD cards. Reason enough to finally dispose of the 2 x 500 USD 3D printer acquisition costs from the beginning of 2022. I draw fast - faster than searching spare parts (unfortunately you can't print everything yet :-(. What I save in search time is unbelievable! Once I even printed a part where inexperienced customer support of a company delivered the wrong part 2 times and took 5 more emails before they even know what was needed. Who still does that, better draw and print right away. Got to say, draw faster than constantly swapping filament and jumping back and forth with SD cards.... Well, thanks Bambulab, get that thing to me ASAP :-)
I wouldn't expect everyday users to get the kind of service ModBot gets. I got stuck setting it up my PIP and started a ticket. It was like 2 months before Bambu got back to me, and I had solved it by then.
Can you elaborate on why you'd suggest others for a tinkerer? And what would you recommend for a tinkerer? One who wants the ability to print carbon fiber. Thank you!
Thank you for you efforts to help us all!
Great video as always. Clean, concise, and no unneeded fluff. I'm not surprised to see that you like the machine but dang that bed cable was wildly difficult!
How much wearing of the carbon tubes have you incurred? this is the main concern that is stopping me buying the X1 Carbon and AMS, other YTbers that have reviewed the X1C have not answered my question which just made me more inquisitive regarding this.
I have also tried to find out if they have a sevice centre in the UK without success, can you link to a list of service centres please.
The carbon rods are not replaceable by the user unless you want your warranty voided. As for the service center, there isn't sadly.
@@coltenmeredith8899 I know that the rods are not replaceable by the user thats why I am asking for a list of the service centres THAT DO EXIST the Texas one was mentioned in the video
@@AndrewAHayes There is NO service repair center anywhere in the world outside of shenzhen china. The place in texas he referred to is one of their global distributions centers, located in austin, TX. They ARE NOT a repair center, only a warehouse where printers/parts are ship from. My P1P came from that warehouse, and when it was dead within 10hrs of delivery, I hand dropped it back off at that warehouse and did a chargeback since bambu lab wouldn't accept a refund. 100% of all bambu lab repairs are done in china, nowhere else, not the USA, UK, EU...anywhere. Only china
If you ever have a problem with your BL printer, you ship it to your nearest distribution warehouse, they then ship it back to china for repair, then back to the distribution warehouse again. Do yourself a favor, save the headaches and just avoid bambu labs. there are several other printers just as fast with outstanding quality and support.
@@coltenmeredith8899 They can be replaced, they are on page 5 of the accessories.
Didn’t they just release a new firmware? Makes start up quicker and a couple other things? I’m 2 weeks out from my first. So stoked.
Why I will not buy a x1 carbon (yet): My plan was to use the printer for usage for my own designs. As an mechanical engineer I was surpriced that all kind of engineering filament was possible. So I have seen alot of youtubers.
1) if there is no wifi in house; then the printer will not update! Downloading by computer en updating through sd card is not possible.
2) then only with sd card you can put a model into the machine. And this will be fiddling with the small card
3) there is no usb connection possible to the computer OR through a wired network
4) only windows 10 and later, but that's ok
Hi, I stumbled across your video by chance. I haven’t purchased a 3D Printer, yet! I was all set on the Bambu X1C but then I made the mistake of conducting my research on their official and unofficial Facebook groups. Like you said about the rotten apples shouting the loudest, wow! They have put a seed of doubt in my mind over numerous things; the reliability, the noise of the machine, the support or lack there of to name a few thing’s.
So where do I currently sit… well and truly wedged on the fence without having the desire to buy just yet. I feel frustrated as I really do want to get into 3D printing.
You can't go wrong with a prusa MK4. Seeing prusas 10+ years in the space and how they've responded to feedback and issues with their printers made me and over 100k others loyal to their products.
While the bambu is very fast and nice, it's also quite loud and as seen in the video; very difficult or in some cases impossible to replace parts like the carbon rods which have been seen many times to rapidly deteriorate. They're also seen to have UA-camr favoritism by giving modbot and a few others in the 3D printing space quicker/any support at all.
I'm in the exact same place as you, I'm "glad" I'm not alone 😅
Go for the X1C - it's so rewarding to make your first print right out of the box. Creating your own designed parts is so rewarding - I wouldn't want to postpone my 3D print experience for longer! I got my X1C as my first 3D printer at all and I didn't have a single issue by now - I didn't even look up where to open a support case because there is no need to! I hope this answers your doubts - don't believe a small group of idiots on facebook - this is a well conceived printer! If you decide to buy do yourself a favor and choose the combo with AMS - you'll miss it otherwise in a few weeks! Happy printing! ;-)
One thing I haven't been able to find on this printer is how does it do with ACTUAL multi-material, not just color changes. Swapping between two PLA colors is a completely different task to swapping between PETG and ABS for example due to the high risk of clogging if not purged correctly. How does the x1 handle this?
I can't find the reference with a quick search, but my memory is that it's strongly recommended not to use materials with very different temperature profiles on the same print job. My personal feeling is that the AMS is more for multi-colour or for things like disolvable supports where the support and structural materials use the same temperature settings.
3D Print General covered this exact topic in a video from a few months ago, and the conclusion was that it is a bad idea to use materials with different nozzle temperatures - the risk of clogs is pretty severe. He also did a 16-color print all in just PLA using four AMS units, observing that there's a lot of tweaking required to minimize color bleed and even that sometimes 1) still doesn't work, and 2) produces a phenomenal amount of waste, to the point where there was a print failure because the poop chute got clogged.
If I get an X1C, I would treat it strictly as a single-color, single-material printer. I truly believe that toolchanger and IDEX printers are the only great solution for multi-color, multi-material printing...and even then, it seems like all the major IDEX and toolchanger printers either cost a fortune or require an excessive amount of work to maintain and keep calibrated.
@@justinchamberlin4195 what's the name of the video where he tests it? I've watched his reviews and I've heard him say he doesn't recommend it but never actually recall him demonstrating it
It won’t let you do a multi material print. It’s for multi color only.
Single nozzle multi-material printers have, and always will be, a bad idea. Using one nozzle for for multiple colors is already a wasteful process (both for time and material) but add in a completely different material and it's a recipe for clogs and issues in general, plus even more time to wait on heating and cooling. Proper multi-material printing should use multiple nozzles, whether that's IDEX, a tool changer, or my personal favorite, "pivot" or "lift" toolheads.
As an aside, it would be really nice to see pivot-toolheads (for lack of a better term) get more development. They don't ooze and you can switch nozzles in under a second. The biggest drawbacks are the extra weight, complications in making them direct drive, and the need to have a servo or solenoid on the print head to switch between nozzles.
Good video, which brings up both positives and negatives. Personally I would love to have one with AMS, so I could print multicolored parts, but no room in the budget for that sadly. It costs something around $2300 here for the X1C with AMS.
no it dont i paid around 1660 for the x1c with ams shipped and it arrives on tuesday
@@josefsteiner9401 But I guess you don't live in Norway, which I do. Have fun with the printer though. :)
@@josefsteiner9401not everyone is American…
hello! i got a bambu x1 carbon that i tryed to return after 10 days of use, and ever since, bambu is shoving sand into my eyes and did not want to retake the printer, even beeing inside the time frame. this was in April.
I really need some advice. I am going to be building my hydroponic garden and want to get a 3 d printer instead of buying my towers. Please what is your recommendation for a printer that can print food-safe hydroponic towers. Which printer would you recommend?
"with all that being said and without any further ado" - is in itself a load of ado.
New to 3d printing, this is my first printer and really enjoying it. Thank you for the 1 year update. Maybe a vid or some suggestions on how to protect the bed cable from getting damaged. Would be greatly appreciated.
I ordered it but I have never used a 3dprinter. Can you recommend me some videso? How can I start?
Being a long-term tinkerer of 3D Printing, I am at a point where I want a "buy and print" machine with less repairing and upgrading that has been required for a while. The X1 is on my watchlist as the solution, but I think it will be more than likely the next version.
How does a filament dryer work with it though? Is the AMS a dryer also?
Considering the XIC or just adding another MK3S+ to my fleet. Would be my first Bambu Lab printer. Would you recomend I stay with the faithful Prusa to keep pumping out prints or the XIC to decrease print times and hope all the updates to the printed make it last longer and keep it's print consistancy?
That is a tough call. There is value in sticking with the same printer. Both sliced files, familiarity, and spare parts. However, the speed output and material capabilities of these printers is nuts and could help you to expand your business. I am almost tempted to say it’s worth getting one X1C to dip your toes and see how you feel. Best case it ends up being a game changer for you and your business. Worst case you have a blazing fast prototype printer for new designs/models. Just one perspective. Ultimately only you can decide what is right for you.
@@ModBotArmy Love the feedback. Thank you. Lots to think on!
Love my X1C! Can't wait to see what the next gen is like and tank you for putting out a well thought out video!
just pulled the trigger on one... X1C with Feeder. Still reeling from the sting
Thanks for skating this very informative video. Youve answered a lot of questions that I had.
Im still looking and definately considering making the purchase. Im long overdue for an X1. Hopefully I'll get my hands on one soon.
Just found out about this printer. Nice review too. Could unexpected high sales contribute to slow customer service?
Based on what I have seen and heard unless you are a UA-camr or influencer from the community helpful support from bambu is rough. I pretty much accepted the fact that the little guy is on his own with this printer.
I seem have that same issue with the walls when working with ASA I use Orca and tune in each roll and it seems to fix the issue. Definitely feels like they haven't gotten the scanner working right for ASA, ABS, and non-CF Nylons. Works great with PLA and PETG.
Would partially sleeving that signal cable increase durability?
Just because of the last part of your video BL deserves recognition. All the other manufacturers where just cashing the check without any major innovations. Mainly looking at you, Prusa. Bambu Lab did a great job with the X1 Carbon and that job put them in the lead overnight. Now Prusa and everybody else are playing catch up and we the consumers are the beneficiaries, so thank you Bambu Lab, keep up the good work and keep everyone chasing after you
"All the other manufacturers where just cashing the check without any major innovations. Mainly looking at you, Prusa"
Remind me again, what "innovations" did bambu lab bring to the table? And I mean things that actually make a difference. 100% of a bambu lab printer is built using open source innovations that already existed. The heated PCB bed, the magnetic removable PEI sheets, induction probe bed leveling, those were invented by prusa. You're literally supporting a company that uses open source innovations, then keeps them locked down while trying to patent them.
I'm looking forward to the next generation of the X1C
Considering this as my first ever printer, hoping it’s a smooth transition into the 3d world, I just want it for bits and pieces in my wood workshop so no real heavy use
full honest review. I like it! I'm hoping to buy one soon but waiting till after christmas. I'm a Ender 3 user with 3 printers but sick of the tinkering. I want a Core x y thats going to work out the box and seeing other videos it makes me want to hit the buy button now.
Since it was a 1 yr review and the review is 1 year old, have you seen any improvement in customer service especially response time? Maybe it’s gotten worse. I think Bambu Labs is the DJI of printers. The first to pull everything together with the Phantom 1 and then expand into the commercial market and improve all entries. They too had customer service issues at the beginning. I think in 10 years BL will dominate the market. About to pull the trigger on the X1C. I am a newbie so have been spending a lot of time on UA-cam. Like you, I want to make parts.
Would you mind linking the spool holder at the top of your printer please?
9.45 did you drive some rag into the lead screw?
Have had some retraction issues with the Sunlu PLA.... does the PLA you're using here function properly in the AMS?
Better to get p1p with multi color unit add on or spend the extra $500 to get the carbon?
Great video, on the nose with key issues and thank you for making this video and giving feedback on slicing issues, I haven't had any major issues that required posting or anything breaking since receiving it back in mid-September. So far all the info required has been from their wiki, forum, and discord server. It's asham you get to see more than usual the negativity towards a brand, I hope that changes, a well-working printer you almost get not to hear. This printer works great, thank you again for this video.
Guess I'll stick with my prusa mk3s for a few more years. It has been running flawlessly for years. I have nearly a year of active print time on the machine and the only maintenance I've done is clean the bed and oil the rails.
Excellent printer, I have been playing with this and ventured into the cad world. What a trip💪🇺🇸😎
I am eager to buy one, but I am kind of waiting on the 1.1 version. Hopefully a little cheaper and some design improvements. Just like you should never by the first year model of a new car design... Plus I finally got my BIQU printer working very well with a new direct-drive extruder, so I need to get some value from all the work it took to get that working!
Yet trowed it overboard and bought a biqu
They have been making changes to the X1C with many improvements.
I'm waiting for X2 Carbon
I would be even more impressed if they make x2carbon cheaper... With all this hype on the
quality side, why would they charge even less?