@@mex_I.MAnd then we would be complaining that they misclick and now the duels don't show off how these very complicated decks intends to play at all.
"That means it's a walking mistake" I know he is refering to the card with that name here, but I love how that still applies to Colossus without context.
8:03 Denko Sekka's thunder typing is actually a cool little thing that was lost in translation. Denko Sekka in Japanese is 電光－雪花 which means "Lightning Snowflake" and is seen on the card with the lightning charged sword and the snowflakes. It is also a pun in Japanese 電光石火 also pronounced denkousekka it is a Yojijukugo, a type of poem composed of four kanji, and it literally translates as Electric Light Stone Fire, and describes a lightning strike. It means roughly as "fast as lighting", which might be the basis of it's ability to disable set cards since it is "too fast" for set cards.
If it’s any indication how awful this format was, we skipped over the cards from Cybernetic Horizon. As much as Soul Fusion gives us a lot of the decks that were later embodied in TOSS format, CYHO introduced the Dangers, Crusadias and Borrelsword Dragon, the latter becoming very important in enabling decks to OTK like never before.
You're right... did the format really not evolve at all during this time? Where are the Rhongomyniad decks and Crusadia OTKs I remember? That's skipping over a LOT of cards just to say "And Gouki kept being played".
These Thunder Dragon cards are the perfect example for good legacy support. Took a simple effect of an oldschool card and turned it into a decent archetype.
After Konami discovered extra linking was broken curtesy of Flames of Destruction, this was when they backtracked to older summoning mechanics and in turn broke the Vrains anime. and eventually the ace of the series FireWall Dragon was banned.
I realized that this is basically just a repeat of the Magic Ruler episode from all that time ago, both decks win pretty much guaranteed if they go first, one player is making the opponent discard all their cards, and the other is playing electric snakes.
Fusion Gate turbo is a hilarious Goat format deck - Thunder Dragon discard for 2 Thunder Dragons, banish 2 substitute fusion materials like King of the Swamp; two Twin-Headed Thunder Dragons. Open Premature Burial and top deck another fusion substitute then you can make it three Twin-Headed Thunder Dragons. All to get hit by Tribe Infecting Virus/Dark Hole/Lightning Vortex on the opponent's turn. ^_^"
Cimoooo: I don't know how people stomached this! Me: This is why I played Red-Eyes. Just gotta summon any number of Red-Eyes Flare Metals and let my opponents either scoop or kill themselves using combo decks.
I wanted to play this build of THUD so bad when it came out but *man* was it ever pricey. Colossus and Titan were both Short Printed and the main decked cards (with the exception of Matrix) were all Ultras so the deck was crazy expensive for its time.
Its really interesting to me seeing the history of the game being told by you guys, because here in south America, at the same time, we had a completely different format, but the only difference in card pool was summon sorceress (wich was only legal in Brazil after It was banned btw). You guys had a gouki tier 0 while we had a sky Striker tier 0. Maybe its interesting for you to explore these differences caused by the regions.
Don’t fall for Joseph’s explanation in the beginning you only needed one name and a warrior extender (I even made sure by looking at combo videos from those times). It’s just those combos were more volatile to handtraps.
Soul Fusion is literally the TOSS set. Introduced 3/4 of the archetypes (unless you count OG Thunder Dragon) into the game that would dominate the format until the end of the next year.
I count ThunDra for this. Prior to SoFu, the only ThunDra cards that existed were OG and Twin Headed. The archetype (by extension, the deck) was released in SoFu.
I find it so cool and interesting how many times Mali, Grepher and Armagedon were playable and meta together ever since their release up to the modern yugioh The tree musketeers of tier 1/0 broken dark decks
It's a miracle this game made it past this year of history. Every deck that year just hand looped, FTK'd, extra linked or multiple of those at once. What an absolute shitshow
I feel like this is just the story for a ton of super cool archetypes/decks "Wow this deck is super cool! What does it end on?" "full handloop/infinite negates/five different floodgates"
@@DrIMPRATICALthe only difference between decks of those categories is how consistenly they can do so and how hard they are to interrupt. The most boring decks ever
When thunder first came out, I think the best variant was definitely dino thunder. That deck slapped and was so consistent. I didn't lose for like 2 months
Sofu also unveiled the first wave of salamangreat- flaco, meer, foxy, sanctuary, will, and heatleo, this set marked the very beginning of eternal format
Gotta love Konami. Hand rip bad in 2005? Ban. Hand rip bad again? Ban. Now regurgitate that several more times until we get to Sillva loops and Lovely Labrynth, who somehow are safe (for now). It's almost as if they know how strong it is and how much money they can make off the cycle. Who are we kidding, that's exactly it
I straight up think TOSS isn't a good format, but it was the first remotely playable format since MR4 started and so it was like a meal to a starving man
0:48 MBT's Deck: DARK Warrior Gouki 4:38 Cimoooo's Deck: Thunder Dragon 10:03 Game 1 14:03 Learn how and why Neo-Spacian Aqua Dolphin went from being the worst, to the best Neo-Spacian just ignore that Summon Sorceress's negated its effect) 17:46 MBT finally pulls off the Gumblar Hand Rip!! 19:08 Game 2 25:00 Game 3
Is it just me or can Aqua Dolphin not actually rip Metaion out of the hand? It does so by destroying, and Metaion is immune to destruction via card effect...
"We coulda almost played Yugioh today but thankfully I activated Neo Spacian Aqua Dolphin" LOL I don't blame MBT tho; it's been so long since he's played with Summon Sorc
I do hope they show off the variation of this deck that was dark warrior zombie when the series gets to the release of neo-space connector and the zombie structure deck that gave us doom king balerdroch. That deck could end on a board that was knightmare gryphon linked to gumblar, doom king, and even potentially a dark law
I play ThunDra in Master Duel, and man, do I have fun. I play two variants: Lightsworn Fossil ThunDra and Myutant ThunDra. Either way, my main play is to get to a point where I pitch the O.G. for the O.G., then the O.G. for the O.G., then use the Fusion spell to recycle them and pitch O.G. for O.G., then O.G. for O.G. Up to four pops for Colossus.
Ah, Thunder Dragons, my beloved... While still not a great interactive deck with Colossus at 3 (I think it's fine at 1), it does present a bit more of an old-school "Protect the castle" kind of feel with Colossus and Titan, and I think that was pretty fun for 2018.
4:35 Well my ears took the L fours times during the deck profile, and they took a further 13 Ls during the games. (Good thing my sick bucket was on hand)
Kids? You lost me there. Also, while I am at it, perhaps now would be a good time to ask what TOSS was and why it was called TOSS. You wanna explain that to me also if you could? Thanks.😊
@@weirdsweetcoolplants prank-kids were a meta deck that dominated the format for a short time after the release of the soul fusion special edition where it beat thunder dragon and sky striker due to its ability to play around both of those decks not losing to single targeting negation or removal effects/stun effects like those of the 2 decks.
20:39 cimo didnt use a thunder dragon effect from and cant summon colossus here. Though he could’ve used drago hawks effect instead of summer summoners effect and end up with the same board so who cares
Sad game 3 there wasn’t a roar sent to graveyard off the batteryman to attack with colossus to protect to summon the dark to link for summoner to grab TD fusion to have colossus plus Titan ☹️
Gonna be even more fun when we get any 2 leftover monsters into full Orcust combo into Rusty ending on the PK RUM to Azathot during your opponent’s turn. 2018 was absolute ass and even TOSS format wasn’t even good, it was just better than the slew of FTK formats that came before it.
after all this duels.. can someone explain how this better that the pendulum era and how link don´t make the game more broken , oh yes the banlist emergency of pepe and zoodiac, master piece but after that what... here is like all bad in yugioh discard all the hands , burn damage , mistake in a monster card, draw 2 card,bouncing effects and almost all the decks can´t play because don´t have a link monster to summon , really the only that miss is mill but this more in the future with ishizu tearlaments
![Explaining All Banned Extra Deck Monsters in YuGiOh [Part 2]](/img/n.gif)
I love the part where Aqua Dolphin is negated by Summon Sorc's effect and neither of them noticed.
*insert Yu-Gi-Oh players reading joke here*
low key annoyed by the misplays. If only there was some way to not let that happen. oh well
Managed to make her even more broken
@@mex_I.MAnd then we would be complaining that they misclick and now the duels don't show off how these very complicated decks intends to play at all.
oh MBT notices, he just likes to cheat.
The fact that colossus is a walking Mistake both for the effect and the card itself is so funny to me
I laughed when Cimo said it was a double meaning.
I was looking for this exact comment
"That means it's a walking mistake" I know he is refering to the card with that name here, but I love how that still applies to Colossus without context.
8:03 Denko Sekka's thunder typing is actually a cool little thing that was lost in translation. Denko Sekka in Japanese is 電光－雪花 which means "Lightning Snowflake" and is seen on the card with the lightning charged sword and the snowflakes. It is also a pun in Japanese 電光石火 also pronounced denkousekka it is a Yojijukugo, a type of poem composed of four kanji, and it literally translates as Electric Light Stone Fire, and describes a lightning strike. It means roughly as "fast as lighting", which might be the basis of it's ability to disable set cards since it is "too fast" for set cards.
It's also the japanese name of the move Quick Attack, in Pokemon, fitting of the "fast as lightning" meaning.
@@doubl2480 Huh didnt know that. Thats cool!
14:05 I see we forgot that Summon Sorceress negates the effects of the monster it summons
Fr he was supposed to just summon it off of Isolde but whatever it’s hard to read
Hope after they catch up then we get a history of Duel Links. Joseph will have a time with that.
I hope they do history in the ocg
DLE is (was?) doing something similar, in the meantime
@@GigacornI believe lawygo is doing it
Then they can do history of masterduel
I'd love to see a Cimo v MBT history of duel links series
Cannot believe Cimo missed out on the Thunderclap Skywolf tech, what a funny card
If it’s any indication how awful this format was, we skipped over the cards from Cybernetic Horizon. As much as Soul Fusion gives us a lot of the decks that were later embodied in TOSS format, CYHO introduced the Dangers, Crusadias and Borrelsword Dragon, the latter becoming very important in enabling decks to OTK like never before.
The scary part is it doesn't feel that long ago.
Huh? You contrsdict yourself
You're right... did the format really not evolve at all during this time? Where are the Rhongomyniad decks and Crusadia OTKs I remember? That's skipping over a LOT of cards just to say "And Gouki kept being played".
Can we please cover Jesse Kotton's Danger Dark world FTK MASSACRE against that kid in YCS London, if not here definitely Jank please.
And have one of them play the boy's deck.
I desperately need to see this happen. The lads haven't shown off how REALLY bullshit Firewall can be.
@@RisingJerichoThat didn’t really start to happen until after Gumblar got banned.
@@NickWuebker Gumblar was banned after Firewall
@subarashifoundation It’s probably going to be in Jank.
It is painful watching Joseph try and do these combos, I have not seen it done right once but I still like seeing him win so that's a plus.
Like seeing him win?
win at any cost! KEKW @@eleonarcrimson858
It's also painful watching Joseph mispronounce Isolde 17 times.
These Thunder Dragon cards are the perfect example for good legacy support. Took a simple effect of an oldschool card and turned it into a decent archetype.
After Konami discovered extra linking was broken curtesy of Flames of Destruction, this was when they backtracked to older summoning mechanics and in turn broke the Vrains anime.
and eventually the ace of the series FireWall Dragon was banned.
I realized that this is basically just a repeat of the Magic Ruler episode from all that time ago, both decks win pretty much guaranteed if they go first, one player is making the opponent discard all their cards, and the other is playing electric snakes.
Denko Sekka is a thunder monster because it means "Lightning Snowflake" in Japanese, as seen in the snowy background and her electric sword.
It's also the Japanese name for the Pokemon move Quick Attack!
I know Cimoooo shouted out Reaper but serious shoutout to Bird Up!. What a deck name
17:54 the trigger effect of topologic gumblar is a mandatory effect, so it should have activated when octo is special to where firewall points to.
How did that affect the game state?
@@goodpeople25 joseph set 1 card before activating it, so it could matter
@@whendelgabriel6772 He has extra zones, was anything forcing him to summon there?
I loved the original “Thunder Dragon” it was the fastest fusion back in the day
only needing 1 monster and 1 poly for a 2800 beat stick
You mean Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon then?
Fusion Gate turbo is a hilarious Goat format deck - Thunder Dragon discard for 2 Thunder Dragons, banish 2 substitute fusion materials like King of the Swamp; two Twin-Headed Thunder Dragons. Open Premature Burial and top deck another fusion substitute then you can make it three Twin-Headed Thunder Dragons.
All to get hit by Tribe Infecting Virus/Dark Hole/Lightning Vortex on the opponent's turn. ^_^"
Dark Warrior, now you got me thinking about 2020 or 2018 part 2 as I call it.
Cimoooo: I don't know how people stomached this!
Me: This is why I played Red-Eyes. Just gotta summon any number of Red-Eyes Flare Metals and let my opponents either scoop or kill themselves using combo decks.
I wanted to play this build of THUD so bad when it came out but *man* was it ever pricey. Colossus and Titan were both Short Printed and the main decked cards (with the exception of Matrix) were all Ultras so the deck was crazy expensive for its time.
Its really interesting to me seeing the history of the game being told by you guys, because here in south America, at the same time, we had a completely different format, but the only difference in card pool was summon sorceress (wich was only legal in Brazil after It was banned btw). You guys had a gouki tier 0 while we had a sky Striker tier 0. Maybe its interesting for you to explore these differences caused by the regions.
Still hyped about the fact cimo jamming bls in every series!❤
We are SO CLOSE to TOSS Format
One of these days i wanna make a video just collecting every clip of Joseph saying
"Man i love yugioh"
Don’t fall for Joseph’s explanation in the beginning you only needed one name and a warrior extender (I even made sure by looking at combo videos from those times). It’s just those combos were more volatile to handtraps.
They still have 5 years of formats to go through? Goodness
Soul Fusion is literally the TOSS set. Introduced 3/4 of the archetypes (unless you count OG Thunder Dragon) into the game that would dominate the format until the end of the next year.
It's so easy to forget Salamangreat was even an archetype before the structure deck.
I count ThunDra for this.
Prior to SoFu, the only ThunDra cards that existed were OG and Twin Headed.
The archetype (by extension, the deck) was released in SoFu.
I find it so cool and interesting how many times Mali, Grepher and Armagedon were playable and meta together ever since their release up to the modern yugioh
The tree musketeers of tier 1/0 broken dark decks
It's a miracle this game made it past this year of history. Every deck that year just hand looped, FTK'd, extra linked or multiple of those at once. What an absolute shitshow
Dark Warrior is such a cool deck. It’s a shame that it just combos into the most unfun end board known to man.
I feel like this is just the story for a ton of super cool archetypes/decks
"Wow this deck is super cool! What does it end on?"
"full handloop/infinite negates/five different floodgates"
I mean, it's optimal.
@@DrIMPRATICALthe only difference between decks of those categories is how consistenly they can do so and how hard they are to interrupt. The most boring decks ever
Seeing BLs in the profile I just knew Cimo was going to be the person to play the deck and I knew it was going to be in his opening hand.
I miss colossus. Even without the floodgate effect, it’s important for thunder dragon combos. It’s practically a link 1.
Glad it's at 1 in master duel :)
I start to see while people are so nostalgic about TOSS format. After the metagame beeing... well this TOSS must have been heaven.
When thunder first came out, I think the best variant was definitely dino thunder. That deck slapped and was so consistent. I didn't lose for like 2 months
>plays 42 cards
>"least bricky version of the deck"
This really was one of the craziest eras of yugioh
Sofu also unveiled the first wave of salamangreat- flaco, meer, foxy, sanctuary, will, and heatleo, this set marked the very beginning of eternal format
Denko Sekka (電光石火 ) Means "Lightning Fast" so Thunder Type i guess
I feel like I missed the part in g1 where iblee was used as a link material, I swore I just saw it get moved over right after it was summoned.
yeah Joseph was playing so fast he forgot that Knightmare Mermaid summons Iblee to your side of the field first
Gotta love Konami. Hand rip bad in 2005? Ban. Hand rip bad again? Ban. Now regurgitate that several more times until we get to Sillva loops and Lovely Labrynth, who somehow are safe (for now). It's almost as if they know how strong it is and how much money they can make off the cycle. Who are we kidding, that's exactly it
My mans MBT learned not to shotgun the Extenders. This is true character development.
I straight up think TOSS isn't a good format, but it was the first remotely playable format since MR4 started and so it was like a meal to a starving man
TOSS format was a great format. What are you talking about?
It was inbetween 2 terrible formats so yeah
0:48 MBT's Deck: DARK Warrior Gouki 4:38 Cimoooo's Deck: Thunder Dragon
10:03 Game 1 14:03 Learn how and why Neo-Spacian Aqua Dolphin went from being the worst, to the best Neo-Spacian just ignore that Summon Sorceress's negated its effect) 17:46 MBT finally pulls off the Gumblar Hand Rip!!
19:08 Game 2
25:00 Game 3
That first game was 8 minutes and it was one turn.
why did people play BLS, Chaos Dragon Levianier was also released in soul fusion and it´s just better than BLS
SOON it will be a FUN TOSS format! I can’t wait 😂
It took a while for toss to get good. Was ruined by floodgates for a while if I remember correctly.
Thank goodness for skipping months of the most unfun time in YuGiOh history. Getting closer to the end of the tunnel in TOSS
There was a really weird Elementsaber Gumblar deck at the time. Maybe something for History of Jank :D
01:00 Deck List / Breakdown
10:53 Duels
Kid: „Dad can we go to a GOAT-Format tournament?”
Dad: “We have GOAT-Format at home.”
GOAT-Format at home (14:27):
TOSS format coming up next huh. This will be exciting
This is merely the beginning of the format. And yes, it gets nutty real quick.
Love all the episodes, even with bad meta
I remember these decks exactly at locals and there I was playing pre-ding orcusts.
Is it just me or can Aqua Dolphin not actually rip Metaion out of the hand? It does so by destroying, and Metaion is immune to destruction via card effect...
Pretty sure that destruction protection effect only applies on field
Cards don't have effects that apply in the hand unless specified that they do.
"We coulda almost played Yugioh today but thankfully I activated Neo Spacian Aqua Dolphin" LOL
I don't blame MBT tho; it's been so long since he's played with Summon Sorc
Glad to see that Cimo never misses the opportunity to play BLS.
Matrix pump is permanent
Cimo leaving at 29:00 is hilarious, because it's just solitair for mbt :D
Thunder Dragon is my fav Master Duel deck.
I still play thunder dragon in MD, super fun deck even though it's pretty bricky at times.
Game 1 10:03
Game 2 19:07
Game 3 24:57
I do hope they show off the variation of this deck that was dark warrior zombie when the series gets to the release of neo-space connector and the zombie structure deck that gave us doom king balerdroch. That deck could end on a board that was knightmare gryphon linked to gumblar, doom king, and even potentially a dark law
Gouki was one of the 3 best decks one more time with dark warrior gouki that make rhongo
I play ThunDra in Master Duel, and man, do I have fun. I play two variants: Lightsworn Fossil ThunDra and Myutant ThunDra. Either way, my main play is to get to a point where I pitch the O.G. for the O.G., then the O.G. for the O.G., then use the Fusion spell to recycle them and pitch O.G. for O.G., then O.G. for O.G. Up to four pops for Colossus.
cimo just got up and left 💀
Wild how they just skipped CYHO lmao
Maybe we can update mbt’s pfp in the intro 🧐
Ngl I loved this episode!!
crazy seeing the format I got back into the game into being viewed in such a bad contextual light lol
KidArt is smiling somewhere
God we have finally hit the set that i went to my first sneak peek in.
I don't want to discredit how toxic gumblar looping was, but having to face down a turn 1 double colossus felt pretty bad as well.
6:54 my parents and friends describing me
Can we get the darkworld ftk that Jesse used against that poor kid at ycs, and one person should use the kids deck too
Ah, Thunder Dragons, my beloved...
While still not a great interactive deck with Colossus at 3 (I think it's fine at 1), it does present a bit more of an old-school "Protect the castle" kind of feel with Colossus and Titan, and I think that was pretty fun for 2018.
It’s insane any of this is legal
I hope you visit dino-thunder. That was a fun deck to play
Can't wait until the SAST episode because of Aloof Lupine and the Guardragons.
4:35 Well my ears took the L fours times during the deck profile, and they took a further 13 Ls during the games.
(Good thing my sick bucket was on hand)
Welcome to Toss Format
I swear next episode better have the kids.I have waited for so long to see the kids
Kids? You lost me there. Also, while I am at it, perhaps now would be a good time to ask what TOSS was and why it was called TOSS. You wanna explain that to me also if you could? Thanks.😊
@@weirdsweetcoolplants prank-kids were a meta deck that dominated the format for a short time after the release of the soul fusion special edition where it beat thunder dragon and sky striker due to its ability to play around both of those decks not losing to single targeting negation or removal effects/stun effects like those of the 2 decks.
@@weirdsweetcoolplants this was just barely pre-TOSS where the best decks were dark warrior, sky striker and thunder.
20:39 cimo didnt use a thunder dragon effect from and cant summon colossus here. Though he could’ve used drago hawks effect instead of summer summoners effect and end up with the same board so who cares
surely dinh kha bui next episode im so hyped
That comment was so badly spelled it made about as much sense as a 2 year old speaking.😅 Ya wanna try again?
@@weirdsweetcoolplants lmaooooooo americans dont realise people from other countries have names that dont sound like theirs
@@rtheodoulou1569 that is true. I just thought it was badly spelled slang. My apologies. What exactly is it supposed to be though?
Thunder dragon time!!!
this was the last format before I came back to the game with Savage Strike. 2018 was just the worst year in YuGiOh history.
Destiny hero malicious needs to go back to three now!!)
I thought Dark Warrior was the name of the pile that just summons Rhongo and then adds 3 materials to it with Gossip Shadow.
Sad game 3 there wasn’t a roar sent to graveyard off the batteryman to attack with colossus to protect to summon the dark to link for summoner to grab TD fusion to have colossus plus Titan ☹️
I CANT ESCAPE ALEX PLAYING BLS
PLEASE LORD ABOVE SAVE ME FROM THIS HELL
How is this Gouki's final form when Gouki Rhongo was still topping after the Summon Sorc and Gumblar bans?
I am so sad MBT dint play Thunder Dragon.
Gonna be even more fun when we get any 2 leftover monsters into full Orcust combo into Rusty ending on the PK RUM to Azathot during your opponent’s turn. 2018 was absolute ass and even TOSS format wasn’t even good, it was just better than the slew of FTK formats that came before it.
The beginning of TOSS format. Strap in boys and girls.
If Joseph has to play gouki warrior piles a single more time in his lifespan he's really gonna do it
oh cool, it was released 2 years ago... wait, it's 2023! this set was 5 years ago!
"isn't that suck?"
Bruh
Let’s go! Chaos thunder is my favorite deck in yugioh history and we are SO CLOSE to it winning a ycs in history!
Right? It won a YCS right?
Didn't Andrés Torres win with it?
I wonder how could people play this format and what tf was Konami thinking when they printed Colossus and other extra deck floodgates.
Hero symbol sleeves. MBT on Heroes this time around? Or is it something else? 🤔🤔🤔
after all this duels.. can someone explain how this better that the pendulum era and how link don´t make the game more broken , oh yes the banlist emergency of pepe and zoodiac, master piece but after that what... here is like all bad in yugioh discard all the hands , burn damage , mistake in a monster card, draw 2 card,bouncing effects and almost all the decks can´t play because don´t have a link monster to summon , really the only that miss is mill but this more in the future with ishizu tearlaments
Facts, people just love dogging on pendulum while Links have done much worse for the game