The Art of Viking Poetry: A How-To (Includes Kennings)

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  • Be your own skáld! If you've ever wanted to try your hand at writing your own poem in the true Viking style, or just want to appreciate Norse poetry more deeply, this guide will show you how it's done, everything from alliteration to kennings to heiti in three eddic meters (fornyrðislag, ljóðaháttr, and galdralag) and the main skaldic meter (dróttkvætt).
    Dr. Jackson Crawford is Instructor of Nordic Studies and Nordic Program Coordinator at the University of Colorado Boulder (formerly UC Berkeley and UCLA). He is a historical linguist and an experienced teacher of Old Norse, Modern Icelandic, and Norwegian. FAQs: • Video
    Jackson Crawford’s translation of The Poetic Edda is available now: www.amazon.com/gp/product/162... and his translation of The Saga of the Volsungs with The Saga of Ragnar Lothbrok is forthcoming in September 2017: www.amazon.com/gp/product/162...
    Jackson Crawford's Patreon page: / norsebysw

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  • @JacksonCrawford
    @JacksonCrawford  7 років тому +161

    If this helps anybody navigate:
    0:41 General Characteristics of Norse Poetry (Alliteration, etc.)
    7:23 Eddic Style: Fornyrðislag
    11:12 Fornyrðislag in English
    11:54 Eddic Style: Ljóðaháttr
    14:19 Ljóðaháttr in English
    15:50 Eddic Style: Galdralag
    18:55 Galdralag in English
    21:51 Skaldic Style: Dróttkvætt (Overview)
    25:26 Heiti
    28:23 Kennings
    33:25 Dróttkvætt: Old Norse Example with Walk-Through
    42:31 Dróttkvætt in English
    Update 10/11/2018: Looking back at this video at 12:52 more than a year later, I’m not sure why I didn’t see the alliterating words of Hávamál 9, l. 4-5, as “ill” and “opt,” which they clearly are.

    • @ashtarbalynestjar8000
      @ashtarbalynestjar8000 7 років тому

      Do other /s/-clusters like /sp/ or /sn/ alliterate with /s/, or is it only /st/ and /sk/?

    • @kaguth
      @kaguth 6 років тому

      Hey Jackson. I have a question that I can't find an answer to anywhere. I understand the basic differences between Skaldic and Eddic poetry. I also understand that Eddic was typically authored by anonymous sources while Skaldic was composed and recited by Skalds for Jarls or other rulers. But, did Skalds also recite the Eddic poems that ended up in the Poetic Edda? And if not, who did? Was there a different class of poet other than a skald?
      Thanks for all the great videos!

    • @Jay-pj5tg
      @Jay-pj5tg 4 роки тому

      super useful thank you!!!

    • @faramund9865
      @faramund9865 4 роки тому

      I hope you know how good the work is you're doing.

  • @aenorist2431
    @aenorist2431 7 років тому +66

    I cannot get over how straight a face you can keep.
    The hummingbirds, being dead inside, its amazing.
    I would not dare to call any raise of yours.

  • @brandonwinstead7137
    @brandonwinstead7137 7 років тому +13

    There rode a wrangler
    Raven black his hair
    Seeking from storms a haven
    The fleas and the flies
    Feast on the hide
    Of his hank rid’ ragged
    He prayed to his patron
    Knees on the prairie
    Beseeching grace of god
    “Merciful almighty
    Master of mankind
    See me safely from strife
    Speed me swiftly from storms
    and Stow me softly to sleep!”
    At the edge of death
    And eyes to heaven
    Only crows heard his call
    But house and hearthstone
    Hot bread and water
    He was fated to find
    In Hell’s high desert
    Home of the giants
    Fiends are always friendly

    • @Helvetorment
      @Helvetorment 6 років тому

      Sorry but this was quite bad.

  • @stephenmundane
    @stephenmundane 7 років тому +54

    "The lusty Colt,
    the trusty Colt,
    the weapon democratic,
    whose vicious might makes men one height,
    the Army automatic."

    • @thedarkmaster4747
      @thedarkmaster4747 7 років тому +3

      i like it. XD

    • @Dick_Kickem69
      @Dick_Kickem69 6 років тому +12

      Gun of the Fudd
      Against Glocks she's a dud
      Single stack means no real capacity
      Compared to wondernines with myriad features and accessories
      To choose the old Colt would be a catastrophe

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot
    @Matt_The_Hugenot 7 років тому +36

    This explains a lot more about old English poetry as well.

  • @ChessHistorian
    @ChessHistorian Рік тому +3

    The dry dropping of that poem-joke after a minute of serious dead-eyed staring at the camera, absolute comedic genius. Man, oldschool dry wit is OP, I gotta say.

  • @brianphillips1864
    @brianphillips1864 2 роки тому +3

    "Aint much use to the elk raised". A true skald for our times. Well done.

  • @vp4744
    @vp4744 7 років тому +30

    Thanks so much. It was driving me crazy listening to modern Icelandic singers and song-writers. Now I see the pattern behind all that music and lyrics. We cast them as "new age," but looks like their rhyming traditions are at least 500 years from before Shakespeare.

  • @gweiloxiu9862
    @gweiloxiu9862 7 років тому +42

    Dr. Crawford, thank you for this gift!
    You did something really unique and important with this video; you managed to convey to English speakers, the beauty and art of skaldic poetry in Drottkvaett no less!
    This was damnear magical. It hurt just a little to keep track of everything at first, but by the time you get to Drottkvaett, I am fully spell bound and invested. Your hummingbird poem in that meter is truly amazing.
    I love reading and writing poetry and am one to agonize for days over how to fit a really highly nuanced narrative into a naturally flowing haiku as part of a competition or some such fun social exercise.
    I am thinking I need to learn this. I am wondering if there are any Skaldic workshops like the common poetry/creative writing workshops.

  • @anguswu2685
    @anguswu2685 6 років тому +10

    Wow, such complex art! I have never appreciated poetry so much!

  • @kyleneal8891
    @kyleneal8891 2 роки тому +1

    How am I not paying for this knowledge? Truly a gift.

  • @darlebalfoort8705
    @darlebalfoort8705 Рік тому +1

    I studied Old English poetry so I am glad to see this.

  • @ifcoltransg2
    @ifcoltransg2 3 роки тому +2

    I like to have things like this in front of me rather than scrolling back and forth in a video for reference. So I took some bullet-point notes which others might find useful.
    Alliteration:
    Norse poetry alliterates.
    Based on sound, not spelling.
    On a stressed syllable, whether or not it starts a word.
    Only the first consonant of a cluster is important, except ST or SK.
    Vowels, Y and W all alliterate.
    Rhymes and final consonants:
    Final 's' sounds don't really count.
    You can also carry over consonants from the start of the next syllable if you need them.
    Stanza:
    Norse poetry is stanzaic.
    Each stanza (and ideally half-stanza) is a self-contained thought.
    EDDIC
    Fornyrđislag:
    Narrative metre.
    Eight lines (sometimes translated as four to match Old English).
    Lines have two stressed syllables.
    In each couplet, a (stressed) syllable in the first line alliterates with one in the second.
    In some couplets, both stressed syllables of the first line will also alliterate.
    Often two or three unstressed syllables per line. (Can be anywhere less than five.)
    Lyóđaháttr:
    Didactic or proverbial metre.
    Stanzas are two tercets.
    The first two lines of each tercet are like a fornyrđislag couplet.
    The other line of each tercet has three stressed syllables, two of which alliterate with each other.
    Galdralag:
    Metre talking about magic.
    Modified from lyóđaháttr; parts of larger poems might be written in it.
    Lines 3 and 6 may have only two stressed syllables, more commonly than lyóđaháttr.
    Has one or more extra lines where tercets would normally end.
    An extra line has three stressed syllables, two of which alliterate.
    SKALDIC
    Dróttkvæt:
    Court metre for praise.
    Four couplets per stanza, with six syllables per line.
    Each syllable ends in a trochee (stressed-unstressed).
    Two syllables from the first line of each couplet alliterate with the first syllable of the second.
    Thus the second line of a couplet starts with a stressed syllable.
    The last stressed syllable of the first line of a couplet ends in the same consonants as another stressed one in the line.
    The same goes for the second line, except those two stressed syllables must rhyme instead.
    Fortunately, kennings and heiti can be used.
    Another boon is that word order is free (although usually confined to a half stanza).
    Heiti:
    An allusive alternative name.
    For instance, night is traditionally a mask.
    Kenning:
    A concise metaphor.
    Often of form "the x of y" or the compound word "y-x".
    Includes mythological allusions. "Wolf tooth-prop" is a sword, because a sword holds Fenrir's mouth open.
    Can switch one thing in a category for another. "Wound-swan" = raven, because ravens are carrion birds.
    Stock images, like people as trees or as weapon gods, axes as monsters, battles as storms and wind as a tree torturer.
    Shape or appearance analogies. "Jewel of snowstorm" = sword, because it's shiny, and a snowstorm is a battle.
    Kennings can contain other kennings.

  • @tresixteen
    @tresixteen 7 років тому +159

    "Roses are red,
    violets are blue,
    inside I'm dead,
    and so are you"
    Being around universities tends to cause that.

    • @aenorist2431
      @aenorist2431 7 років тому +20

      Love the self-irony.
      10 / 10 would not play poker with.

    • @MissKellyBean
      @MissKellyBean 7 років тому +12

      Tresixteen I LOST it when I heard that poem, haha, Dr. C is hilarious!

    • @tresixteen
      @tresixteen 7 років тому +9

      Kelly Fishbeck I probably wouldn't mind actually taking one of his classes so much

    • @Odothuigon
      @Odothuigon 7 років тому +12

      Dr. Cowboy Viking is dark AF.

    • @jzaar7483
      @jzaar7483 7 років тому +3

      emo...

  • @Odinson9994
    @Odinson9994 Рік тому

    Cool to see Amerikans intressted in norse poems! Greetings from Norway

  • @LukeRanieri
    @LukeRanieri 6 років тому +2

    That was amazing! What a reward, after completing your Old Norse language course, to be able to appreciate the fundamentals of the poetry - you have inspired me greatly; þǫkk, Fornnorrænumaðr!

  • @swimminginhoney
    @swimminginhoney 5 років тому +3

    I’m so glad I came across this video! One of my assignments is to create an eddic poem so this is ridiculously helpful

  • @VVDCS
    @VVDCS 6 років тому +6

    This was fantastic, and walking through everything really helped me understand what's going on in these meters. Gotta say, though, from the perspective of a modern English poet, dróttkvætt is an absolute disaster xD

  • @Livinivs
    @Livinivs 3 роки тому

    That is the most badass poem about hummingbirds I have ever heard

  • @dtl918
    @dtl918 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for taking the time to go so in depth for the video. I'm building a Norse bard character in Dungeons and Dragons and learned a lot from this.

  • @boganery
    @boganery 7 років тому +2

    Wow, skaldic poems are hectic. Cheers! Finally bought your book today, can't wait.

  • @maharencall3219
    @maharencall3219 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Jackson! If you love this stuff I reckon you would find the principle of Cynghanedd in Welsh poetry to be pretty mind-blowing. Really enjoy your work and example. From Cardiff, Wales, here I am wishing you, the very best x

  • @VanaheimrUllr
    @VanaheimrUllr 2 роки тому

    Wow, this became my favorite video so far. Appreciate your knowledge JC.

  • @gweiloxiu9862
    @gweiloxiu9862 7 років тому +13

    Dr. Crawford! It would be incredibly cool to see more Drottkvaett in English from you. Just as an idea, a series of Drottkvaett on the historical west as theme. You obviously love Colorado. It would be a great setting for this theme and could perhaps help in getting through the last bit of time you have to do where you're at, while using your hard won mastery of your field in a really emotionally positive way. Plus, we your loyal fandents (*cough*) would get a lot out of it. Just an idea! :-D

    • @woden__
      @woden__ 6 років тому +2

      me personally i hate the great majority of colorado, seriously way to hot and southern, can't wait until i can move to seattle

  • @JoshyJosh970
    @JoshyJosh970 5 років тому +1

    I just found this and thank you for this work! My aunt has told me that our family has some ties to Eric Bloodaxe and I always found that to be novel. As someone who always admired English poets like Robert Service and the like how we can understand poetry going so far back is beyond amazing. If you ever want a free dinner up in Estes Park let me know I would be happy to have a talk over dinner.

  • @tomschout
    @tomschout 6 років тому +1

    Very interesting and clear. Thank you very much!

  • @YamahaRiderAK
    @YamahaRiderAK 2 роки тому

    You are very good at explaining things. Thank you this was something I was curious about for quite some time.

  • @AustinOzGraham
    @AustinOzGraham 4 роки тому +1

    Immensely helpful for music nerds too. Thank you!

  • @ShimmerBodyCream
    @ShimmerBodyCream 5 років тому +2

    I'm in love

  • @tacticalyeti007
    @tacticalyeti007 Рік тому

    Yikes! this is heavy. I had to rewind it a bunch to fully grasp all that's going on but I'm excited to give it a try! Thanks for taking the time to make this.

  • @telephonebear21
    @telephonebear21 3 роки тому

    One of the best videos on UA-cam

  • @silhouetta37
    @silhouetta37 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Dr Crawford. You'll never read this, but I made this sort of Ljóðaháttr/Galdralag hybrid for you (and Sigyn) today:
    The Song of Sigyn
    The serpent's hunger is a ceaseless storm,
    A never-sated gnawing
    That daily tears at the tender roots
    Of the trembling World Tree.
    Though mighty, straight and strong its stem,
    Nine worlds shake and shudder.
    Though long and lithe its limbs stretch out,
    All worlds will quake and crumble;
    All oceans toss and tumble;
    All mountains writhe and rumble.
    The love of Urðr is a lake unsounded,
    A never-tiring nurture
    That daily bathes the battered feet
    Of the weary World Tree.
    Though war and strife are weathering its crown,
    Its veins pump with promise.
    Though beasts forever feast upon its body,
    From the fount of Fate it draws;
    In the mists of Memory claws;
    At the well of Wisdom paws.
    The snaketooth's venom is a ceaseless rain.
    Each ever-drilling drip
    Falls from on high like a hammer blow
    On Loki, locked in chains.
    In self-made bonds, blood of his blood,
    The Tangler lies entangled.
    The salmon swam into the net it knotted:
    Like the sea-snake, snapping witless;
    Like fettered Fenrir, powerless;
    Like Hel, both whole and lifeless.
    The strength of Sigyn is a sacred sword.
    Each world-weighted drop
    Falls from on high like a heart breaking
    And quivers in her bowl of burden.
    Shielding folly from its own doom,
    She halts the heft of vengeance.
    Wielding her grief like a warrior raging,
    She hurls it down the drain,
    Turns boldly back again,
    And sings to that searing rain:
    “Though wolves will swallow the sun and moon,
    I will not love them less.
    I'll bathe the feet of this falling tree,
    This wretched rascal liar
    Who filled the gods with fire,
    Vaulting their vision higher.
    The gormless snake is guiltless as the storm,
    A feckless force unfurling.
    And Loki, I have loved your chaos,
    Wild as the mounted mare,
    Free as the falcon fair,
    Darting where you would dare
    Through shifting shapes of air.
    Your weight of woe I'll wear,
    And in your shame I'll share
    Till your tethers at last you'll tear
    And flee this fetid lair;
    By my sacred sword I swear:
    Your burden is mine to bear.”
    *
    Thank you for this video, which I found in my quest to write about Sigyn in hopes of doing her justice, and now I'm hooked on your channel. The rhyming just happened, sorry; I know it doesn't really belong. I also kind of failed at the caesura in the long lines I think. Anyone's critique welcome :)

  • @dcshoes841
    @dcshoes841 7 років тому +1

    I live in Estes Park. If you ever want to go on a hike, give me a shout once you're back in CO. I was also curious if there were any traditional Norse prayers? Something that you might say before a meal or when putting your children to bed.

  • @ghidorahnotweak
    @ghidorahnotweak 7 років тому +17

    The bolo tie benefits any butch outfit, and is also a boon to bird boffins.

  • @artemis12061966
    @artemis12061966 3 роки тому

    I really like this kind of wordplay...

  • @brandonwinstead7137
    @brandonwinstead7137 7 років тому +9

    My dream video!

    • @aenorist2431
      @aenorist2431 7 років тому +3

      That.
      I am actually working on a reenactment / larp character of a (proper, historical, non-horn-helmet)
      viking in the period, with aspirations to becoming a skald.
      Almost last thing i need is the means to actually craft poems.

  • @candyturner1412
    @candyturner1412 7 років тому +8

    Bolo. Yes.

  • @AlexGidra
    @AlexGidra 7 років тому

    Thank you very much for this video. I'm watching, taking extensive notes and hoping for seeing your lectures on Coursera or other online free education platform as methodical and theme focused course on poetry and mythology from Scandinavian past. Such an inspiration for my own research.

  • @elainelouve
    @elainelouve 6 років тому +1

    Thank you, again a very informative video!:) Reminds me that I should read the Edda again. It was too much of a struggle when I was a teenager and tried to read the heroic part. I gave up back then. It was a Finnish translation though. Reading epic poetry is something I've needed to get used to. It just doesn't seem to come as naturally as reading prose, which is actually why I loved the sagas, as they're in prose and thus much easier to grasp. And yes, I should also read the Kalevala again.;)

  • @Otokage007
    @Otokage007 4 роки тому

    really helpful, I know nothing of poetry and understood everything. I had read the poem of Sigurd and Gudrún by Tolkien and was wondering what was in the poem that made it sound so special, now I get it.

  • @jayedward5841
    @jayedward5841 6 років тому

    That was great!

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому +1

    20:57 It is rather that English has lenthened in Middle English period stressed short syllables fara = faran > faren > fare, with a long fa.
    Swedish did the same, Old Swedish "skip" is either "skepp" (lengthened p, at least graphically still so) or "skep" (lengthened e instead, not the version which gave rise to standard Swedish version).

  • @Dan-vr7zs
    @Dan-vr7zs 5 років тому +1

    I think I'm in love

  • @pettige88
    @pettige88 7 років тому +1

    I just discovered this channel, and I really enjoy the videos I've seen so far. After quickly browsing through the titles of the videos you've made so far, it looks like you haven't covered Heimskringla. Do you plan on making any videos on that?

  • @lemonZzzzs
    @lemonZzzzs 7 років тому +1

    This is actually more thorough than some poetry *courses* I took... The rules sound a bit arcane... Would love to hear more samples to see if it makes sense for the sake of rhythm, etc.
    an extra plus for them hummingbirds too xD

  • @Johna41223
    @Johna41223 3 роки тому +2

    Got one!
    Sigrún skal beria(z?)
    Vincent muno herja
    Baldr er drengr
    Senna menns ok konars
    Let me know if I made some grammatical errors, I'm a total noob at poetry, especially Norse.
    It is supposed to mean:
    Sigrún shall fight
    Vincent may rule (Herja is a more violent, almost chaotic way of the verb rule)
    Baldr is a "drengr" (please check his video regarding "Drengar".
    The senna of men and women
    Also, keep in mind that the English version doesn't follow any of the Norse meters.

  • @vivalibertasergovivitelibe4111
    @vivalibertasergovivitelibe4111 7 років тому +12

    If you like this kind of poetry you should definitely check out the lyrics of the band "Skálmöld". Although most probably won't like the music their lyrics are poetic gold.

    • @leenyy5994
      @leenyy5994 7 років тому

      Skálmöld is awesome!:D And I don't understand why people don't like their music. But well everyone has their own preferences ^^

    • @MarkCavan2
      @MarkCavan2 7 років тому

      Janniboy lp Just had a listen, and they're good! You heard of Raubtier?

    • @thuleanulven1742
      @thuleanulven1742 6 років тому

      Solstafir is good to

  • @veronicanow5360
    @veronicanow5360 3 роки тому

    Love that roses and violets poem lol

  • @missuse6992
    @missuse6992 7 років тому +3

    do it yourself.....yessssss

  • @samp9418
    @samp9418 4 роки тому

    This is awesome!! Thanks for the video :) are there any famous poets who use any of these kinds of styles today?

  • @naomisalama430
    @naomisalama430 5 років тому +1

    Earned yourself a sub! Great analysis!
    I wonder, how did you become interested in old Norse? Do you have some Scandic background or just found it fascinating?

  • @williambilson1555
    @williambilson1555 7 років тому

    Amazing! I love Norse poetry so much, especially the ones in the sagas. This was incredibly helpful!

  • @Cyssane
    @Cyssane 7 років тому +10

    Those of you who've played Skyrim, it's worth noting that Bethesda used this style rather well in one of the bard songs "Ragnar the Red". Lots of great alliteration and half-rhymes in the lyrics:
    There once was a hero named Ragnar the Red
    Came riding to Whiterun from old Rorikstead
    And the braggart did swagger and brandish his blade
    As he told of bold battles and gold he had made
    But then he went quiet, did Ragnar the Red
    When he met the shield-maiden Matilda who said
    "Oh you talk and you lie and you drink all our mead
    Now I think it's high time that you lie down and bleed!"
    And so then came clashing and slashing of steel
    As the brave lass Matilda charged in full of zeal
    And the braggart named Ragnar was boastful no more...
    When his ugly red head rolled around on the floor!

    • @MoonChildMajora
      @MoonChildMajora 5 років тому +4

      Except the whole thing is rhyming couplets, which isn’t really part of the style.
      Sounds good though.

  • @xinic5
    @xinic5 6 років тому +5

    Yes I am dead inside too....lol

  • @starkgate
    @starkgate 7 років тому +5

    That was a 45min well spent. Very interesting video, thank you !
    I have a question, can Kennings be used to create double meanings ? You say there can be multiple layers, how do you know when you have to stop looking for Kennings and have finally "arrived" at the original meaning intended ?

    • @ifcoltransg2
      @ifcoltransg2 3 роки тому

      A lot of kennings look like they are made of multiple parts, and turn into a single thing when you interpret them. For instance, you look at two ideas, "raven farmer", and turn it into one, "warrior". If every time you interpret a kenning you end up with less ideas than you started with, you'll hit a point where there aren't any more things you can make a kenning with.
      For the hell of it, let's calculate exactly how many layers of kenning there can be. A half stanza has twenty stressed syllables at maximum (because the trochee means at least one of the six syllables per line is unstressed). Every important word will probably need a stressed syllable, so there can be twenty ideas per half stanza (and kennings don't usually span both halves of a stanza). If all the kennings turn at least two ideas into one, that means there can only be nineteen layers of kenning in a dróttkvæt.

  • @sasha-hy5zf
    @sasha-hy5zf 5 років тому +1

    what a drengr hummingbird

  • @DwarfLordAirsoft
    @DwarfLordAirsoft 4 роки тому +2

    A few questions:
    Can there be more than two stressed syllables per line in Fornyrthislag?
    How does one determine whether a syllable is stressed?

  • @creatureris
    @creatureris 6 років тому

    This is fantastic. Your final spear-swallow poem is utterly beautiful. Thanks for sharing.

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    36:27 ek em at ... = I am at ... like in Celtic syntax (thá mí aig óibre or what "I am working/I am at work" is in Scots Gaelic)?

  • @lindalee7322
    @lindalee7322 6 років тому

    Hello, Jackson.
    I'm looking for your videos in which you read the poems/stories in English. I had really enjoyed them, but now I cannot find them in your playlists.
    Would you help me please? Thank you, dear.
    Hugs,
    Linda Lee

  • @mssnajp6782
    @mssnajp6782 3 роки тому

    And here i am lerning old norse poetry just for a dnd character late in the night

  • @Shafi.Islam_
    @Shafi.Islam_ 6 років тому

    Will you be able to do a poem for my Icelandic vlog? a narration

  • @boredombuster2000
    @boredombuster2000 7 років тому +9

    Huitzilopochtli is Dr. Jackson's sprit god *chuckles*

    • @lemonZzzzs
      @lemonZzzzs 7 років тому +2

      That is... uncannily fitting :D

  • @queefburglar7548
    @queefburglar7548 7 років тому +1

    Dr. Crawford, I love your videos, just discovered them recently. I was wondering how you got to where you are now and how I might follow a similar career path. I have a great love for Norse myth, I've been studying it for the past five years or so, and while I haven't delved into the Nordic languages yet, I plan to very soon. I'm going to college soon and was wondering if you had any advice on where to go from here to be like you. Thank you for your time and I hope you respond. Have a lovely day.

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    43:09 Hummingbirds are warlike? Is that a reason behind a certain character in Aztek myth?

  • @austinsmith5764
    @austinsmith5764 5 років тому

    Dr. Crawford,
    I have a question regarding Fornyrdislag. Does the first stressed syllable in an even line need to be the alliterative one? You never state this is the case, but both the Norse and English examples you give seem to be entirely this way. Thanks!

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    How close or far is OE poetry to FYL?
    The five patterns given in On Translating Beowulf, do they still hold as analysis?
    Because if so, a clear "cretic" would be possible in FYL but impossible in OE poetry?
    I suppose for second halfline it is still clear : only first stressed syllable alliterates? (OE) And in FYL it is not so?

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    earning in yearnest .. or reverse ... this would be related to original yod sound being lost (year = år), and new yod sound coming from vowel e (jord = earth, Erde)?
    Similarily, can't one alliterate v- with any back vowel, since v was lost before back vowels while still pronounced w?

  • @ieuanpugh-jones5284
    @ieuanpugh-jones5284 6 років тому

    Presumably this goes for most early Germanic language poetry like old English like Beowulf is this correct?

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    22:21 Supposing the psalms had been translated to Old Icelandic metre (didn't happen, unlike OE translation of first 50 psalms, ordered by King Alfred) - would they not have been trying sth like Dróttkvætt?

  • @nugboy5701
    @nugboy5701 2 роки тому

    He starts talking about skaldic poetry at: 21:47

  • @gweiloxiu9862
    @gweiloxiu9862 7 років тому +1

    I wonder if anyone else got the .45 acp reference.

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому +1

    32:42 As a Tolkien fan ... Gladden fields ... the flower in question is gladiolus, right? Latin for "little sword" ..

    • @hglundahl
      @hglundahl 7 років тому

      Or wait, was gladiolus the mistranslation by Ohlmarks?

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    17:46 til and frá are usually unstressed and preposed to a noun - here they are postposed to a phrase and are contrasting.
    Could we be dealing with :
    HEI-lir HIL-dar TIL
    HEI-lir HIL-dar FRÁ
    rather than with
    HEI-lir HIL-dar til
    and
    HEI-lir HIL-dar frá?

  • @rubbedibubb5017
    @rubbedibubb5017 4 роки тому +1

    22:41 my surmane is Drott
    /Sweden

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    39:32 Sure almsíma refers to bow rather than to skis? Both are associated with Ullr ...

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    13:58 any vowel alliterates with any vowel ... a vowel initial word, how close is it to beginning with knacklaut?
    Could one say from Hebrew perspective aleph alliterates with aleph?

    • @hglundahl
      @hglundahl 7 років тому

      Plus, yod alliterates with aleph ...

  • @robertoroboto5295
    @robertoroboto5295 5 років тому

    You gotta add some flavor to these lectures, man. Great video though!

  • @scottthomasshellphd3059
    @scottthomasshellphd3059 6 років тому

    Get the heck out of here, Dr. Crawford. I can't believe you actually wrote an English poem in Dróttkvætt. Crazy man :)

  • @Bondsmith799
    @Bondsmith799 3 роки тому

    How do you pronounce Dróttkvætt?

  • @Luka1180
    @Luka1180 4 роки тому

    Wait, anyone still writes Old Norse style poetry? Based in the myths? Even ones from, like, Icelandic, who are still practising the oral tradition by any chance? If yes, where the hell do I find this stuff so I can read it???

    • @Luka1180
      @Luka1180 4 роки тому

      We need a place to share serious Old Norse poetry. However, no poems about modern problems or modern things. It has to be based in things from the actual viking age!

  • @kyreshlcsw2229
    @kyreshlcsw2229 5 років тому

    The battle wind blew the smell of blood akross the field and cut akross the sky of lightening. I and my sword were alone in the world, I and my charging enemy. We will meet in the corpse hall one day. (no but I will keep working on it)

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    45:12 pain of pine trees = wind?
    Well, there is a Swedish pop song echoing this to this day ...
    ua-cam.com/video/y4CyvVvRBMo/v-deo.html

  • @Dick_Kickem69
    @Dick_Kickem69 6 років тому

    Don't think I didn't spot that sly shootbang reference.

  • @ChessHistorian
    @ChessHistorian Рік тому

    You should note near the beginning that old norse was meant to be rumble-chanted, so the hard sounds would roll like slow thunder.

  • @anthonypeltier4039
    @anthonypeltier4039 5 років тому

    Loved the 1911 comment

  • @katakhresis2796
    @katakhresis2796 6 років тому

    Kennings are metalepses and metalepses are transumptions and transumptions are synonyms and synonyms are allusions.

  • @barryhomeowner9293
    @barryhomeowner9293 3 роки тому

    I wasn't in this video at all :(

  • @agenthearts
    @agenthearts Рік тому

    4:14 I know it sounds redundant, but I’d much rather attend a School for Scholarly Skalds 😂

  • @jamiewashere
    @jamiewashere 2 роки тому

    Did anyone else get here because you've been listening to Wardruna?

  • @loveislife5557
    @loveislife5557 2 місяці тому

    So I just read that the Aurora Borealis is the sister of the sun and moon

  • @275Ranger275
    @275Ranger275 6 років тому

    Your 1911 comment made me narrow my eyes, man.

  • @paulorenatoneto
    @paulorenatoneto 6 років тому

    You have the same colour of my eyes.

  • @jarls5890
    @jarls5890 6 років тому

    Check out this hymn sung by the iclandic group "Árstíðir" - /watch?v=e4dT8FJ2GE0
    The hymn is from the 1100. The song is of a much later date.

  • @kyreshlcsw2229
    @kyreshlcsw2229 5 років тому

    Echoes of men sail down the l hall way. in jail in a line of many I am alone, no knife, no soap no telephone. (no?)

  • @aerobolt256
    @aerobolt256 7 років тому

    As great as it would be,
    I'm guessing you haven't been holding the original writing styles faithful in your translations of the Eddas

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 7 років тому

    Once again, a certain challenge ... try something in the metre of Beowulf or of Heliand ... put either into the Proto-Norse etymological equivalents. Check out how that metre is, if it is mostly regular, even out the mistakes. THEN get that into Old Norse (kuningaz > konungr and so on), also irrespective of whether the words exist or not. Would the metre NOW involve mostly the kind of halflines you get in 1, 2, 4, 5 of Ljóðaháttr or halflines of FYL, and sometimes things like 3, 6 in Ljóðaháttr, somewhat irregularly, like in Galdralag?
    If so, Havamál could be inherited with slight "retouches" according to how to regularise the 3/6 longer lines from a poem in Proto-Norse - a language Odin must have spoken if ever he communicated with Swedes in such time that his stepgrandson Fjolner could died in the reign of Caesar Augustus.
    So, how about giving it a try, you who are the linguist in Germanic esp. Scandinavian and esp. Old Norse languages?
    Pretty please!

  • @alecfowler2261
    @alecfowler2261 6 років тому +2

    A kenning is like a meme. XD

    • @bundleaxe1922
      @bundleaxe1922 Рік тому

      Lol yeah: The sea-horse with its boat-wings gallops over water-hills.

  • @Alshowsh
    @Alshowsh 7 років тому

    i like u

  • @obeisms2627
    @obeisms2627 5 років тому

    It feels like he's forcing that voice/accent. Maybe it's just me. Just doesn't seem natural at times

    • @SteamShinobi
      @SteamShinobi 5 років тому +1

      What

    • @obeisms2627
      @obeisms2627 5 років тому

      @@SteamShinobi his voice doesn't fit his face imo

    • @SteamShinobi
      @SteamShinobi 5 років тому +1

      @@obeisms2627 I'd disagree, but that's a fair position to hold.

    • @obeisms2627
      @obeisms2627 5 років тому

      @@SteamShinobi okay thanks for your input lmao