Watch Safari: Mongkok (Hong Kong) - April 18, 2023

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  • Опубліковано 17 кві 2023
  • Join me on a tour of a few secondhand watch shop in the bustling streets of Mongkok, on the Kowloon side of Hong Kong. Lots to see!
    Fx reminder for easy reference:
    USD 1 = HKD 7.85
    So for example:
    HKD 100k = USD 12,738
    USD 20k = HKD 157k
    You can hope to find more unusual things here but still Rolex is the main draw. When searching you can see which dealer is trying to sell watches a bit faster and it's not easy in a market that is on a pullback after a bubble-like rise.
    So it is a good time to buy? I'd be cautious given how much stock is available and don't forget where prices were just a few years back. It can all crumble a lot more while brands keep on pumping new models every year.
    Personally I'm more comfortable buying rarer models, things that have intrinsic value rather than hype to support them. I also don't want to just own the same watches as hundreds of thousands of people.
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  • @user-er7zq1pj8m
    @user-er7zq1pj8m 8 місяців тому +92

    That might be an AAAAA replica, but it doesnt even come close to the excellence of a Ziarex Swiss replica. You can spend less in China, but quality is worth the investment.

    • @LorraineNeal-cg7gy
      @LorraineNeal-cg7gy 7 місяців тому

      I feel these are so underrated

    • @CheakinaCopeland
      @CheakinaCopeland 7 місяців тому

      Very underestimated

    • @AfraBenson
      @AfraBenson 7 місяців тому

      Before, there was only China selling replicas and manufacturing them, but now ZiaRex is the best in the world and operates from Europe.

    • @RamonaEvans-jx3pt
      @RamonaEvans-jx3pt 7 місяців тому

      Top, manda o pix! 🇧🇷💸

    • @RhaelynCharles
      @RhaelynCharles 7 місяців тому

      Rolex doesn't sell watches your ADs are just museums

  • @japanese1763
    @japanese1763 Рік тому +3

    It's really nice to see you posting this safari again. Really helpful for us all to compare the prices. Can't wait to be there in Jul

  • @horaciomisa7625
    @horaciomisa7625 Рік тому +3

    Love your watch safaris. I was there 2 weeks ago and will probably return again this year. I bought a rubber b strap but your content makes me feel confident to buy from these shops.

  • @walterlee4796
    @walterlee4796 Рік тому +13

    I enjoy these longer watch hunts you do very much, I'd love to see more. I'm fascinated with the amount of newer models that seem to be everywhere all at once in HK but nowhere else

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys Рік тому

      They're also plentiful in Singapore. Yet, whenever I tell ppl in Europe or North America they scoff at me. Saying am just bullshitting them.🙄

  • @DecemberNames
    @DecemberNames Рік тому +10

    My favorite series on the internet. Thank you for another great video mate. I enjoyed every second. Please keep it coming.

  • @VmanStudioz
    @VmanStudioz Рік тому +1

    Great tour of Hong Kong; love these parts of Hong Kon. Keep up the great content.

  • @jasontan9702
    @jasontan9702 Рік тому +1

    I like your showing the watches in Hong Kong. Thank you. Great Job 👍

  • @guykeren647
    @guykeren647 Рік тому

    Thank you very much sir for this video. Very interesting and exciting stuff.

  • @MirkoEndenburg
    @MirkoEndenburg Рік тому

    Thank you! I will pick up one badman next week in Monkok, thanks for showing the way!

  • @SinnMaster
    @SinnMaster Рік тому

    Great video, love these watch safaris!!

  • @garysmith1477
    @garysmith1477 Рік тому +1

    That Vacheron Constantin overseas look amazing on your wrist. Thanks for putting this on my radar.

  • @robertbachmann8141
    @robertbachmann8141 Рік тому

    Great video. Love your watch safaris

  • @mastershoe2707
    @mastershoe2707 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the great tour. I lived in HK in the early 90’s & have some great memories. Use to get off the MTR in Mongkok on my way to work. It seems like a sea of Rolex’s….any Grand Seikos?

  • @underachievingwatchcollect1878

    Always enjoy watch window shopping. Overseas vs. CHNR? Well, I’m biased as I have the Rootbeer. Dressed down with a RubberB it’s versatile and everyday wearable 😎! More vids like this please-Austin Daniels slacking off lately. Best regards

    • @derekdalton5658
      @derekdalton5658 2 місяці тому +1

      I think the root beer on rubber is the most beautiful watch on sale. Lucky man!

  • @dt3367
    @dt3367 Рік тому +1

    Love this series of safari hunt

  • @coronetmag
    @coronetmag Рік тому +3

    Finished the video. Awesome! Great job! I truly enjoyed it. I see a CHNR in your future! (But you’re right that the 116713LN presents better value.)

  • @Schrottkralle
    @Schrottkralle Рік тому +5

    Well, Hong Kong used to be very competitive concerning prices for luxury watches in the 90's 'till the erarly 2000's.
    Usually approx. 25 - 35 % cheaper than in Europe.
    But that's all over for a long time already.
    Today, watches are definitely more expensive in HK than in Europe.

    • @derekdalton5658
      @derekdalton5658 2 місяці тому

      Its so sad isn't it. I guess that's the joy of globalisation😢

  • @MH-ol2rh
    @MH-ol2rh Рік тому

    love these ones pal. Nice to see HK bustling again too

  • @pei8988
    @pei8988 Рік тому

    oh wow! I sometimes walk pass the New Bowling watches and never paid any attention of their watches, that VC look stunning!

  • @MistaRhoi
    @MistaRhoi Рік тому

    This makes me miss Hong Kong so much!

  • @gamerbuddys3670
    @gamerbuddys3670 Рік тому

    Such a great tour

  • @aaronswatches
    @aaronswatches Рік тому

    ❤ your videos. Seems like good deals here. Nothing like this in Arizona 😂 - Aaron

  • @kanepjk
    @kanepjk Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the great video. I was ther last week and used your videos extensively. Was looking for an Air King. Came away slightly disappointed with the HK scene. Saw lots of watches but prices seemed a little on the high side (compared to Chrono24) and not a single dealer I visited would entertain any bargaining. Fun to see all the watches though.

    • @A1steak
      @A1steak Рік тому

      Lots of bargaining is available. I think HK pricing is the best in the world

    • @A1steak
      @A1steak Рік тому

      Also HK watches are all authentic, unlike US dealers where you may find fakes

  • @jhouston7222
    @jhouston7222 Рік тому +1

    Love this video!

  • @mattcrocker7601
    @mattcrocker7601 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for pointing me to Mongkok ... just got a lovely Rolex 14060m in the arcade on Dundas St. on my first visit to Hong Kong. About €2K less than in Europe/Chrono24. Not your style, I know, but a nice watch to start with.

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  8 місяців тому

      I'm wearing a Sea-Dweller so the Sub is definitely my style. I've actually never owned a sub, looking forward to it

  • @Mark..P
    @Mark..P Рік тому +1

    Love the watch safaris. Thank you.
    I would be interested in the Lange prices in HK 🥃

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      Not many around, especially not in those kind of shops. KenWatches (they're online) would have some regularly

    • @Mark..P
      @Mark..P Рік тому

      @@UptickWatchReviews Thanks

  • @eyeheartsushi2212
    @eyeheartsushi2212 Рік тому +2

    I love the Root Beer. The Root Beer and DateJust are my Rolex grails.

  • @ninjanic3239
    @ninjanic3239 Рік тому

    hello, thanks for your videos, you really do a great job… I wanted to ask you what you think of the guid shows, in what % you save compared to the shops. thanks

  • @mrsrandommademedoit3387
    @mrsrandommademedoit3387 Рік тому

    If its your only watch i would go for the Rolex GMT, but that VC was very nice, and something exciting to wear from time to time

  • @MyPerperper
    @MyPerperper Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the content, always a pleasure watching those safaris.
    With those prices in Hong-kong, do you think it is possible to buy and resell for higher in chrono24?

  • @whatsupbhatti
    @whatsupbhatti 10 місяців тому

    Swissarex watches are like a piece of art on your wrist. Ive never seen better craftsmanship.

  • @aminmeh
    @aminmeh Рік тому +2

    Videos like this break my heart , my rolex AD rejects me so fast ( almost laughs me out of the store) as if paying $12K for a watch is no big deal. And then i see these stores are littered with all models and 2023 year models too. Makes you wonder how these stores get new models AVAILABLE for sale ,, and customers have to hear about the FAKE wait lists from the AD. Great video, 👍🏼👍🏼 thanks .

  • @mrsrandommademedoit3387
    @mrsrandommademedoit3387 Рік тому

    Ahh yes a great one and done watch !.. :P like any of us could pick ONE watch from the collection and sell the rest haha

  • @alanisr22
    @alanisr22 Рік тому

    Hi Uptick
    You should take the rootbeer ! You're looking at it since too much time ahah
    If the price seems fair to you, I think you will love that watch ⌚
    Cheers,

  • @hunchua8906
    @hunchua8906 Рік тому

    Thank you for your videos! Awesome resource… I’m in Hong Kong for a few days and thinking of bringing along my vc overseas chrono to trade for something. Are there and shops/areas you could recommend that are more open to trade ins and vc in particular? Thanks again!!

  • @billstonestreet904
    @billstonestreet904 Рік тому

    Well done mate, Rolex for mine, I collect high end quartz watches, next time you are looking have a look you can get some great buys.

  • @al-fahadabdul-mumuni7313
    @al-fahadabdul-mumuni7313 Рік тому

    Excellent video

  • @mb8051
    @mb8051 Рік тому

    Always great to see HK!! Whenever I am there I always seem to struggle to find these shops!!! Next time UT I will ask for a map!! Did you fix the BB54 bracelet?

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому

      Can't miss them, follow the beginning of the video to retrace my steps :-)

  • @coronetmag
    @coronetmag Рік тому +1

    3:38 the Polo S has never stopped increasing in price both on the grey and in retail. I sold mine to a dealer and didn’t lose money. And have regretted selling it ever since. I can’t afford it now

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      Ultimate sleeper possibly. I like the black dial black rubber strap version.

  • @u250623
    @u250623 Рік тому

    great video

  • @JavedKhan-ox5qe
    @JavedKhan-ox5qe Рік тому

    I love the video you shown some great Rolexes please advise me where is the best place to buy Roles HONGHKONG OR STATES Please let me know JK

  • @jprlp12
    @jprlp12 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing. Kindly feature Breitling Chronomat and Rolex Datejust, Day-Date next time.

  • @gregfung608
    @gregfung608 Рік тому

    hi, can you talk about where you sell in HK too? would be interested to know more about what kinds of prices you can get

  • @petch126
    @petch126 Рік тому

    What shop should we pay a visit and resonable price? Great watches tour.

  • @jamietabb758
    @jamietabb758 Рік тому

    Would be great, if you could provide the addresses of the watch shops. Enjoyed the video

  • @yedekhesap1004
    @yedekhesap1004 10 місяців тому

    Swissarexs commitment to excellence is evident in every watch they produce.

  • @Gmaker202
    @Gmaker202 Рік тому

    That's the lowest I've seen a redline Sea Dweller as well, if I was in Hong Kong I would pick it up immediately, they are still by and large unobtainable here in Los Angeles from the AD.

  • @PampyR-dr6hl
    @PampyR-dr6hl Рік тому

    Hi will be going to HK this month to buy a datejust 41. How much average price for new and second hand? Appreciate advise. Thanks

  • @LaFritePerreGoat
    @LaFritePerreGoat Рік тому

    Those GP Richville use the lemania1872 so the 2 register version of the 861 omega in the speedmaster. Cool watch. Funny name as a french. 😂

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому

      The case looks a lot like the Cartier tortue shape. Quite elegant, good dial designs, low prices, what's not to love for those who don't want to overpay for everything

  • @dereklee7351
    @dereklee7351 Рік тому

    Curious, is there any shop which does authentication? Looking to buy off from a private seller. Thanks!

  • @Subsub-ij7ym
    @Subsub-ij7ym 10 місяців тому

    Swissarexs waiting list is a testament to their unmatched craftsmanship. Dont miss out!

  • @edizzle7149
    @edizzle7149 Рік тому

    I am going to Hong Kong this September, where would I be able to go for cheap Rolex and possibly Tudor?

  • @i-lzzzzzzzz-i-u7100
    @i-lzzzzzzzz-i-u7100 10 місяців тому +1

    Do the watches come full set

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn Рік тому +38

    Show us the massage parlours. Go full ArchieLuxury

  • @user-jz6bw2sb4p
    @user-jz6bw2sb4p Рік тому

    Can you still bargain/negotiate on the prices? Or are they all fixed?

  • @WestCoastAce27
    @WestCoastAce27 7 місяців тому

    I am sad - the Explorer II Polar prices are so low - 7 mo later they are still mostly over $12k USD here in the US.
    Does anyone know the ref for the Tudor Panda chrono w gray subdials?
    BB GMT Opaline is my 3rd Tudor - and incredible. But agree - only at MSRP. I had to wait a few months to get the call.

  • @jessicafernandez8014
    @jessicafernandez8014 Рік тому

    Do you have any idea how much is the current market price of 2023 Rolex Submariner steel with date? Thanks in advance

  • @kyle618
    @kyle618 Рік тому

    would love to see more ap and pateks :)

  • @shino8854
    @shino8854 Рік тому

    The Monks Kok, best place to find everything and anything.

  • @tapioca1688
    @tapioca1688 Рік тому +1

    On your wrist…the VC way better! Any recommendations for shops that have competitively priced Patel nautilus or aquanauts?

  • @mickmurphy1837
    @mickmurphy1837 Рік тому

    Really enjoyed that. Would enjoy vintage and Seiko hunts too. Thanks

  • @gabrielpyh5608
    @gabrielpyh5608 Рік тому

    I own the Zenith Retrotimer in bracelet. Got it for USD5700 2 months ago , brand new!!!!

  • @aussieexpatwatches
    @aussieexpatwatches Рік тому +1

    Whats your camera and mic when you do these? Phone and... headphones?

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      Yeah just iPhone and the old headphones with the wire. Can't record with the AirPods unfortunately. Well there is one app that does it but the sound is dreadful.

  • @z3060243
    @z3060243 Рік тому

    What would be the room for negotiations in these shops here? Thanks!

  • @quarters-eye8922
    @quarters-eye8922 Рік тому

    Cool 😎

  • @competitivespeakerstmchk4628

    I never see any JLC Reversos - any reason for that?

  • @edchang9521
    @edchang9521 9 місяців тому

    Great video, will be heading over to HK looking for the new colorful celebration? Are these available NEW from the AD? Thanks

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  8 місяців тому

      Not unless you buy HKD 2m worth of other things. Dealer prices for the 36 is about 120k, 41 is around 180k. Most Rolex still get hijacked here. The two-tone GMT is on nobody's wrist but still straight to secondhand market.

    • @edchang9521
      @edchang9521 8 місяців тому

      @@UptickWatchReviews in the us, inventory is very low. Is the Yacht-Master 116655 readily available? Thanks

  • @nevilenobody606
    @nevilenobody606 Рік тому

    Great video and commentary. Just curious - do these places provide papers and boxes or are you taking a punt on authenticity?

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      Of course, many are full set, even vintage, some are not. Like everywhere else really

  • @mysupersats
    @mysupersats Рік тому

    can you tell us how your watch got stolen? and how you find it, thankyou

  • @tintinlau4508
    @tintinlau4508 Рік тому

    🎉🎉😱😱2搜表店舖🎉🎉

  • @luizfl
    @luizfl Рік тому

    Awesome video. Congrats. Is it safe buy there to delivery in US ? Do you do it ? Or what shop you recommend ?

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      Buy in person to wear back on the plane yes. Shipping out, not really. You take the shipping risk, insurance amount is limited, customs always will be curious. If you really really insist on buying abroad to ship, then put all the value on the movement which you will have to describe in minute details on the shipping declaration. Case, crown and Banda are the most taxes. Do not ship alligator straps with the watch. Custom could confiscate just for that.

  • @Khoragg
    @Khoragg Рік тому

    Royal Oak grey dial is like 20% lower then the cheapest in EU right now 🤯 Is this like final price or before taxes or smth?

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      No tax and room to negotiate lower. Everyone is very cautious, prices are lower, but far from low.

  • @tomasostman7002
    @tomasostman7002 Рік тому

    Hello and thank you for your pleasant video watch safari.
    Do you know how much one dares to ask for a discount on those prices?

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      They would be surprised if you did not try to bargain and you'd be surprised how low they actually pay when people sell. I try to have a good number in my head that leaves everyone happy. They make a good margin, I get a better price. For example if something is 88,000, I'll offer 85k cash. Nothing crazy. But you can try to go 75k and see what they say, for esoteric brands and models, you can definitely target 20-25% less.

  • @luckyraj8118
    @luckyraj8118 10 місяців тому

    The legend of Swissarex lives on - the best in the business for 1:1 replicas!

  • @leaftown6398
    @leaftown6398 Рік тому

    What would you expect to pay for YM 126621 chocolate dial 40 mm. Thanks. Enjoy your video

  • @lunam7249
    @lunam7249 Рік тому

    whats the exchange rate to the USD $??

  • @shahzaibsanaullah61
    @shahzaibsanaullah61 10 місяців тому

    Ive heard stories of celebrities rocking Swissarex watches; its a testament to their quality and style.

  • @galatians22122
    @galatians22122 Рік тому +1

    Not sure if i saw any Sky Dwellers? Are they not very Popular There? Great Vids!

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I see them and prices are coming off. The two-tones are pretty much at or maybe even below retail. Certainly no premium resale for sure. The white and black steels come back to reasonable levels but yeah, they're too chunky for most collectors here, so they've been treated more like bitcoins than actual watches to wear.

    • @galatians22122
      @galatians22122 Рік тому +1

      @@UptickWatchReviews Thanks for your reply. That's what I figured the size is the issue. I have the Blue SD. Cool story: My AD's Rolex case was smash and grabbed but the thieves missed a few one being The Blue Sky Dweller! I got the call! Retail for the Blue SD hard to pass up. Would love to. Visit Hong Kong some day. Cheers!

  • @user-sw2ku6ez9m
    @user-sw2ku6ez9m Рік тому

    I have a Franck Muller I want to sell. Can I sell or trade my watch at these stores in Mongkok? Great video

  • @kevinbirch1647
    @kevinbirch1647 3 місяці тому

    How much approx for Rolex DD yellow gold Presudent Band less than 10 yrs old ?

  • @jedichurn
    @jedichurn Рік тому

    Hi you mentioned the Zenith Retrotimer. Where did you see it in HKG? thanks!

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      Not seen one yet, Tim Mosso mentioned that rare bird on a show and I thought it's the sort of rare bird that might pop up one day in one of those shops without anyone paying much attention

    • @jedichurn
      @jedichurn Рік тому

      @@UptickWatchReviewsAhhh! Thank you sir🙏🏻

  • @wsstatusmaker3812
    @wsstatusmaker3812 10 місяців тому

    Swissarex watches may be more expensive, but they are true works of art, identical to the originals in a 1:1 ratio.

  • @Stiiiphen
    @Stiiiphen Рік тому

    Is it safe to say most of these stores only have the big brands? Looking for a rare Hamilton without much luck. Thinking of going your routes but not sure if they will have any other brands other than Rolex etc.

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому

      Some shops do have a wider selection. For example PnF in Yau Ma Tei has all sorts of vintages.

  • @stephenhouse7451
    @stephenhouse7451 10 місяців тому

    Have you ever visited the small shop in Shek Tong Tsui, 425 Queens Rd West. Good for second hand vintage watches

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  10 місяців тому

      Well I've passed by that bit of road hundreds of times and never noticed a watch shop there

    • @stephenhouse7451
      @stephenhouse7451 10 місяців тому

      Cool little place with nice husband and wife shop owners. Quite a collection of obscure vintage watches maybe worth checking out@@UptickWatchReviews

  • @bensonlimtc
    @bensonlimtc 2 місяці тому

    Where can we find used Cartier watch in Hong Kong?

  • @tellmidd3812
    @tellmidd3812 Рік тому

    These prices are no better than anywhere else. No bargains here -Pretty much spot on market value

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому

      The best deals are between watchguys here in HK, that's for sure

  • @cyberprepper
    @cyberprepper Рік тому

    IMO the Rolex GMT is not in the same league as the Vacheron but still a lovely watch for sure.

  • @chaklamchung8076
    @chaklamchung8076 Рік тому

    No video from Kwong Wah Street ? There are many watch shops here

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому

      At the end of Dundas? I've made many videos there. Search Yau Ma Tei in my library

  • @driftkingz109
    @driftkingz109 Рік тому

    Hi! Hows HK in terms of watch safety? Planning to go there soon again but ever since these stories getting mugged over in the USA and Europe, it gets me thinking. Is it safe to walk around with a Rolex Sub whether it would be around causeway area or kowloon side? thanks!

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +2

      Given that every other housewife wears a Batman or Daytona in the subway, you're pretty safe wearing two on each wrist. Just don't try to break into a triad den in Mongkok

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys Рік тому +1

      Relax Rolex are very common in Asia

  • @user-lg5qg8dd4s
    @user-lg5qg8dd4s Рік тому

    Are the price is Hong Kong dollars or USD

  • @aduuupvt
    @aduuupvt 10 місяців тому

    Swissarexs dedication to accuracy and detail sets them apart from the competition.

  • @naughtynightlifeasia857
    @naughtynightlifeasia857 Рік тому

    Do you ever go to KK Watch?

  • @youtubeed12345
    @youtubeed12345 Рік тому +1

    All been buff and polished,Are all rolex parts original?

  • @lucksimi3320
    @lucksimi3320 Рік тому

    Hi
    Which chronograf will you recommend as an investment? Thanks

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому +1

      If I knew which watch is a sure investment I'd buy ten of those. Quality, brand, rarity, beauty are the pillars of any watch or art investment. If you know what you're doing you find something nobody yet values off the beaten path.

  • @TJames69
    @TJames69 Рік тому +1

    Nice tour 👍

  • @thetravellervision
    @thetravellervision 6 місяців тому

    Hello! I hear people saying I got Rolex explorer 124270 made in 2021. Or made in 2022 or made in 2023. Is actually a difference between the years was made this exact reference number? I mean is a way to know your explorer 124270 was made in 2023? Thank you. I know was launched in 2021 but I got mine a few days ago from AD and wondering how I tell which production year is. Thank you very much

  • @sn00ze88
    @sn00ze88 Рік тому

    Chnr for me, most wearable compared to the VCO gen 2.

  • @tonicreal4853
    @tonicreal4853 Рік тому

    Wonder if there are super clones sold to the tourist

  • @j8sdx
    @j8sdx Рік тому

    Hows the sd43 prices there, even not a high demand model struggling to get one at an AD and grey market here is about £1500 over list

    • @UptickWatchReviews
      @UptickWatchReviews  Рік тому

      Look at the end of the video. Found two way under list. It's not popular in Asia but there's just not that many of them so the illusion is everything is hot but it's not really.

    • @j8sdx
      @j8sdx Рік тому

      ​@UptickWatchReviews thanks amazing prices for that model was about half way during vid when i initially commented

  • @ITZPRINCEFF
    @ITZPRINCEFF 10 місяців тому

    Theres some insider information suggesting that Swissarex has access to the Rolex database and uses the same codes on their watches as the original ones. Because of this, its nearly impossible to distinguish them as fakes.