@Schlomo Baconberg You’re just making that up out of thin air. Why would the CCP care about the reputation of Taiwan’s national airline? If anything, they would want to spread this story
@@jeremiahbrand4838 it's not about the reputation of an airline, it's the fact that the episode mentions the China Taiwan conflict, and the idea that China might've shot down the plane.
Having worked as an admin in maintenance depts for transportation companies for over 20 years, you are spot on! Maintenance is not a money making part of the business but it will make you more money due to the quality of your equipment being maintained properly. We proved that at one company in spades. Shut the owner down hard! Best day of my working career.
There are literally analysts who will calculate the cost of doing things properly vs the cost of paying out after something goes wrong. They look at the odds of an incident and related lawsuit potential and decide if it's worth the savings of cutting corners. That's why safety regulations are so important, because companies can't be trusted to do things right
@@LennoxMatt1 yup, like the Ford Pinto exploding gas tanks. Ford calculated that it would be cheaper to fight/settle lawsuits and pay fines compared to recalling all the Pintos.
46:06 this part reminded me of my brother's school. He's a aircraft mechanic, and everyday, he and his classmates ate lunch in the hollowed out belly of a jumbo jet. The instructor told them on their first day "This is what happens to the plane if you cut corners. But imagine all of your classmates are dead next to you." Yeah that made the rest of the graduation ceremony a bit darker, but hey it was effective
Powerranger…my son loved that game…I want to say that the Japanese “NTSB” didn’t even want to let Boeing rep to inspect the damaged plane…it took several days for the Amricans to be allowed to see the wreck and investigate the cause of the damages.
China Airlines has now improved the repairs of its passenger planes. Southwest Air has also been forced to improve its repair history. That's great, but it's little comfort to the families of those lost on those airplanes.
No it hasn't. The US has had more. Its proven a lesson men refuse to learn...unregulated capitalism and the pursuit of profit is a plague. Its capitalism that let's lazy fools who never worked a day in their life sit behind a desk and take in cash while people die, mechanics are pushed to inhumane working conditions, people take the fall and lives are forever ruined. All for money. And the rich don't even have the good grace or class to be happy. They are miserable and become more sadistic with every penny their evil fingers touch. Profit is our disease.
Why not pursue it still. Plane crashes and accidents will continue to happen and computers will get more complicated as time goes on. The older crew will need you.
The NTSB will leave no stone unturned to try and find the causes of crashes. They've been able to determine the causes of all but a handful of crashes in their history.
5:29 Seeing that body floating just breaks my heart. RIP to those poor souls. A reminder of why it's important to make sure repairs are done correctly. One little mistake can have enormous consequences.
For as long as there are humans involved mistakes will be inevitable and some mistakes will end up with disastrous consequences. That's just the way it is. We learn more with each disaster, how to mitigate future ones but they will never completely dissipate
@@23elgiePlayz with a name like that, he obviously has lots of knowledge about this kind of thing, especially if he's heavily involved with Grand theft auto video games once players of the game were allowed to fly fake Air craft. Key board warriors somehow seem to have a much higher intelligence than us normal people, who actually work and fly for a living..... If only we listened to more kids in mom's basement's!!!!!
I fly a plane from 1977 and its had a lot of repairs . You need to trust every past repair and every inspection and every part. There are few non important parts on an airplane.
Seriously 😒 are you serious 🧐. After watching many of these episodes I find that extremely hard to believe!!😬😬 seems to me that every single part is important!!
All that’s important is the plane can take off and land, interior lights are not important, nor are the windows or even cargo section of planes, lights and windows are needed in the cockpit not the cabin.
@@rosealexander9007 There would be a few parts that are either cosmetic or for convenience, but not necessary for the plane to fly safely. Overhead bins and storage, tray tables and those little built in TVs aren't necessary for a safe flight (although I guess to distract a passenger that might otherwise become unruly could be considered a safety measure 😅). Most parts are necessary, or help to increase safety, but not every single part would be, especially if you are thinking of the large passenger planes usually highlighted in these shows. :)
I love this channel! I will investigate airlines before I fly again. My father had planes when I was growing up, I worked as a surgeon's nurse and we flew to a town every Thursday to do surgery and friends have planes. I was never afraid but watching this channel has had an impact on my psyche.
Same here! I always been phobic, I actually have to sedate myself because I just don’t like it. I try and manage but man turbulence etc scares me to no avail. Now I’m like nope I’m asking if there is fuel engine leaks, cargo door latches exchanged and put on right, see if there is structural damages before boarding, make sure there isn’t unnecessary chatter between pilots, did they sleep enough, are they doing their checks correctly etc man it’s crazy
It took 22 years and 20,000 flights and then that fateful moment!! It’s truly a shame it takes such tragedies to implement change. In this case, maintenance was slack in following up on the issue and responsible for basically “fudging” the paperwork in order to make it appear as though they had followed up. My husband is an MT for Boeing...he installs the landing gear. When an MT installs a job and QC buys the job off, the names of all involved are attached to that job for the life of the plane and beyond!!
I Always wonder for every improvement they make after a crash what if anything is sacrificed? I mean humans have limitations and mistakes will be made. There is no such thing as a perfect system.
@@wowihaveachannel4862 The NTCB has an semi official motto when it comes to plane crashes. “Every plane crash makes us safer”. Which means that they try to learn from every crash and make flying safer for everyone as a result. A good example of this is today, commercial jets have specific “air highways and altitudes” where they can fly legally. Very early on in aviation, pilots would often fly following ground roads and highways. Which was great, until a collision occurred from someone coming the opposite direction. Or how commercial planes used to have wooden airframe structures, until a break up occurred due to a cracked wooden support structure killed a well known Notra Dame coach at the time. Then there was a case where a Norwegian commercial flight suddenly broke up in flight, and the cause was 3 out of 4 tail bolts were “fake”. AKA the cheap Home Depot kind, not the $300 a piece hight tensile strength kind required. That crash caused the NTSB to look at all their inventory, and realize that 25% of their stuff was “take or forged”. It caused 100’s of arrests in that black market, they even found a few “fake” parts on Air Force One. No crash due to fake parts has happened since commercially. Heck, the first black box was created after a commercial plane crash in Australia early in commercial flying. It started as a simple sharp piece of metal leaving specific scratches in a plate of metal, to actual cockpit recordings (only 1/2 till recorded over in a loop), to a few digital recordings of mechanical occurrences, to 2 separate black boxes recording (one cockpit, one mechanical feedback) to suddenly longer recording times(an hour or longer), to now recording 100’s of parameters, 24 hour recordings, and the start of video(cockpit) recordings too! Or the inclusion and updating of weather radar in aircraft. Or why kids CAN’T touch the controls in flight (Pilots Son accidentally disengaged auto pilot and put plane in uncontrolled dive, killing everyone). The evolution of the durability of those black boxes is a while other story. Then you look the evolution of flight security and rules. Why smoking is banned (several deadly fires while flying) why passengers and luggage must be matched(both must get on plane, due to an Air India bombing and the Pam Am bombing…both within months of each other), and the security changes due to 9/11……before you complied with Hijackers, now you dog pile them and help the stewardesses zip tie and duct tape them to a seat. Oh. Let’s not forget why you need to put your shoes thru a metal detector (the shoe bomber) and why we have to have body scanners (underwear bomber). Both of those punks are spending life in the Colorado Supermax. Yep. Rules and regulations are there for a damn good reason. Most are not written in ink, but in metaphoric blood. Same with the fire code. Not following them gets people killed. You want actual video of what happens when the fire code is not followed? Look up the “Great White Shark/ The Station Fire”. In the year 2000 A news camera man happened to not only catch the fire starting due to outdoor pyrotechnics being used inside AND catching the soundproofing catching on fire, but you see the panicked stampede of people to an exit, the screams, the terrified people jamming the door creating the “crush” so people could not get out, the billowing smoke, people trying to pull people out of the crush, and the sudden silence when the toxic fumes killed those trapped as the fire consumed the rest. You catch one person leaping out of the roaring fire and smoke, their hair completely on fire. 100 people died. There were so many people injured, burned, or suffering from lung damage that the local Children’s Shriner hospital opened their doors to them because regular burn units were overwhelmed. It’s terrifying to watch. But it needs to be seen. Look up the “Iroquois Theater” Fire, the “Coconut Grove” Fire, and the “Triangle Coat Fire” just to name a few. Oh. Fun fact. Most “modern” vehicle safely features were inspired by NASCAR crashes and driver injuries. This is why NASCAR vehicles seem to crumple and fall apart to easily. It’s an attempt to protect the driver inside. It’s why modern cars have crumple zones and airbags. Heck. I remember when side and passenger airbags came into being.
@@equarg I am not disputing anything you have stated, although I'm not sure how one quantifies as modern car safety enhancements or what has come from nascar or car racing exactly. I am old enough to remember driving with my parents when seat belts weren't required. My point was what was sacrificed as in freedoms, higher costs etc. And even with all the safety advances there are still air plane accidents so it's not 💯% effective in prevention. I don't
China Airlines did learn their lesson after this accident. Since then, the only serious one was the China Airlines 120 fire that occurred on the ground just as the plane parked on the tarmac. There were a couple minor injuries, but everyone got out alive.
I was in a CH53 that caught fire while on the way back to America. We just got to the coast of SoCal. Flew from the deck of the now scrapped USS Bonhomme Richard back to our Marine Corps base. Made it 9 months in another country. Then the cargo hold/cabin of our bird starts smoking. Was probably a site to see. 20 Helo's flying in formation for our welcome home. Then seeing one of them billowing dark smoke. Thankfully we were only a few miles from the flight line and landed. You mentioned the Chain 120 fire & it immediately made me think of my incident with an aircraft fire.
A very sad tragedy that cost the lives of 225 souls. They had no idea that their flight was doomed and all because of an improper structural repair. An entire section that was damaged years earlier had a "temporary repair done" and not replaced. Some maintenance engineers overlooked that section of the plane and it caused it to just break apart. Excellent thorough investigation; my respects to those people. RIP Flight Crew and all passengers of China Airlines Flight 611.
It's very rare, but it happens. Another major crash caused by a faulty repair was American Airlines Flight 191 in 1979. 273 died because 2 months earlier a forklift had accidentally bumped hard into an engine. They didn't inspect close enough for damage, and 2 months later the engine fell off during takeoff, causing the crash.
I worked as an Industrial Mechanic for many years so many job we did were not by the book because we were instructed by higher ups to do what cost less to do,so I’m sure the Airline Mechanics have the same issues.
There was a case in US where a civilian on the ground happened to have a camera with them and took a few pics of the plane, on fire, before it crashed. The pictures helped the NTSB figure out what went wrong. This was before digital cameras and picture taking cell phones existed. In fact I think that happened twice…..
Whats more terrifying is the thought that there is a TINY chance you survive breakup and even the impact (especially small children) but you will drown before any chance to be rescued.
Sounds very simmilar to that Japanese crash that was also caused by an incorrect repair from a tail strike, although in a slightly different failure way
Very observant of you! The guy must have a good sense of humor, probably necessary for the work he does. That was probably his own paint job - I'm sure the guys in accounting would never authorize such "frivolity", heh heh.
This is absolutely one of the greatest channels on YT, i have learned more about thee aviation industry then i ever thought i would have in such a short time, i love this channel!!!
what I find more terrifying is the chance you will survive the breakup and impact into the water (especially small children - the human body can surprise you beyond limits), but there's next to zero chance you will be rescued.
The human body is both physically and mentally “designed” to handle catastrophic trauma. Going into shock blunts the horror and pain of the experience. It’s why you often hear/read about people not remembering traumatic or painful events. Yes, there is a very brief initial reaction (screams, etc.) but the human body loses most senses quickly and why these poor souls were probably out cold or dead before they could grasp the horrific magnitude of it.
@@dadduorp if they were knocked out they could still have eventually regained consciousness. Children probably survived longer but the problem was more they couldn't be rescued.
In regards to the pressurization. At 39:40, he says "as the plane climbs air is pumped into the cabin". Not quite. The air at sea level is 14.7 psi. The air pressure at 18,000 feet is half of that of sea level pressure. At 30,000 feet it is 4.3 psi. As the plane climbs, air needs to be released from inside the cabin so the skin does not burst. Bleed air is taken off the engine's compressors to pump air into the cabin because air will leak out over time, but it is not pumped in as the plane climbs to altitude. In fact, when you are flying at 30,000 feet, the air pressure inside the cabin is more than outside. Air is pulled off the engine bleed air to keep about the air pressure of 8,000 feet. If you pumped air into the cabin after takeoff, the pressure inside (even if it stayed at sea level pressure would be far too great compared to the pressure on the outside which would be around 4.3 psi at 30,000 feet. So you would have 14.7 psi inside and 4.3 psi outside. The air tube would blow outward ripping the aircraft apart.
Wow. I actually flew China Airlines many times. After that accident, and the one at Naha, there hasn’t been a major accident. They really did change after this accident and broke the 4 year curse.
Wow...I cannot imagine what the passengers went through when this happened. You are 7 miles up and flying at probably 300knots or more. I would hope that the sudden lack of oxygen and the force of the wind would have killed everyone on board rather quickly. I would hope.
Mercifully most people would have passed out within seconds from lack of oxygen. Also, being suddenly subjected to that wind speed and -30 F temps. All of those together would have taken away most ability to process what had occurred.
This is HANDS DOWN the unluckiest plane in aviation maintenance history. Incompetent repair job and crew, poor maintenance records of its parent airline, and a scheduled inspection that could've actually saved the plane all ended up with catastrophic failure.
@DavoPlayz That was only a period of seven years between tail strike and destruction, and even then the 747 was at the very least crudely controllable. China Airlines 611 had a period of 22 years, numerous maintenance lookovers, and total disintegration.
Well, usually the DC-10 has been called the unluckiest plane. The truth is, when you factor in the massive number of 747's and DC-10s that have been built, and the aggregated MILLIONS of miles they have flown, neither of them are statistically unlucky. It might seem that way when we read or watch enough reports about large accidents. Today, we still have thousands of both those models still flying every day, flying cargo all over the world. Crashes are incredibly rare.
This seemed very similar to another 747 crash. The result of that crash was the cargo bay door becoming unlocked due to a switch short on the door. It was noted that when the switch shorted the door would open despite having aluminum latches. Those aluminum latches bent out of shape during many other tests.
This was such a thorough video into the tragedy that started over two decades earlier. I wonder as time goes on, if there will be any capable caring workers to do the right thing to our airplanes that we put so much stress on day after day; year after year; flight after flight. Such an awful way for people to leave the earth falling thousands of miles into the seas or ground. 😞
It's crazy that two 747's crashed because of improper repairs done after a tail strike. The first crash happened to Japan Airline's flight 123 in 1985 and the second was China Airline's flight 611 in 2002.
All of these stories is because maintenance didn’t fix something correctly because they “didn’t want to spend money” this is crazy man. After watching al of these stories, I am officially scared to hop on a plane now 🥺😭
I thought after Aloha airlines had that plane rip apart like that all airlines were going to be inspecting their aircraft especially ones that had a tail strike.
I've watched many of these shows & it's always the same: the mechanic's concerns are overridden by supervisors' concern for the cheap. I feel for you guys.
Thanks for the upload! Could you upload the episode on AF447? I happened to be on that aircraft (F-GZCP A330-203) on 30th May 2009, a day before it crashed!
China airline was notorious for their accidents. I once flew China airline when I was in my twenties. Right when it was about to take off on the runway, their engine blew sparks. They did a emergency stop. Made everyone get off the plane and catch a next day flight. I swore to never fly China airline again.
And now they're coming out with their own commercial plane. Anyone who would get on ANYTHING that has "Made in China" on it and ride it up to 30,000 feet, has more courage than I will ever have.
One thing I don't like about Mayday is how they highlight these types of defects that should have been caught by inspection programmes as being the fault of the mechanics who conducted them-- in reality the fault lies with the airlines, who understaff, under-train, and tell mechanics to do more with less. This practice has a body count, not only in aviation but in all sectors of the economy, as tired and burnt-out people make mistakes, get into auto accidents, and spread illness.
@@BillyBillyYeah not the case here. There is a lot of wrong in corporate and military culture which led to this event. The rival Taiwanese airline EVA Air has had a far better safety record and they tend to outsource pilots more than CAL which uses military pilots. Taoyuan Airport is great now but it has literally been rotting behind the walls, it still falls behind Changi, Narita or HK.
The mechanics are not lazy in most cases it is the bosses that say you have 2 hours to get this plane in the air and the bosses dont care what needs to be fixed the bosses will sign off that it is fixed and safe
I am one of hundreds who saw a crashed airplane not far from PDX. It was in a stand of tall trees. It did not burn and I do not remember how many passengers and crew were on it.
That's like saying "How am i ever gone get in a car again?". You have a much much higher chance of dying in a car accident than an aircraft crash. Chances of dying in a car: 1 in 115 Chances of dying in a plane: 1 in 9,900.
Again? I’ve never been on a airplane and have no desire to. I have watched this channel now for months and it tells me everything I need to know about keeping my feet on the ground.
I watched another episode about a Mayday flight taking off from Taiwan and accidently being in the wrong runway when departing. It's the same actor. LOL. Guess I've watched quite a few of these episodes
It seems every time they search it's so difficult to find the lost aircraft and they seem to never find anything else of significance. It just shows how massive the Ocean actually is.
@DavoPlayz I like it because it does more than just planes. I'd love to see on for things like the Lac Megantic train disaster, some of those massive explosive industrial accidents...
they need to train this mechanics a lot better we have seen too many life's taken away from these mechanical mistakes and its very sad due to the company profit and taking the cheap easy route
As a Ukrainian, I appreciate the narrator properly referring to Ukraine, as simply Ukraine, instead of inserting the often used, and highly unnecessary article "the".
Damn, there are so many kinds of cool software out there these days. I was in the tech support business just as IBM PC's were starting to really take off, and I've seen a lot of improvements and changes in things, but since I was between the programmers or system techs and the end users, I didn't have much exposure to many types of software, just whatever the companies I was working for at the time were selling. I was in database or vertical market sectors. Anyway I STILL get a kick out of what the programmers and engineers come up with. Software to describe debris tracks, software to rebuild airplanes from bits and pieces... Technology. What a kick... :-) :-)
Very possible that a manager or boss told the maintainance people to sign off on the job being done correctly despite it not being done. And when you have done that stuff 20 years with no issues it gets worse. Looks like the boeing requirements to too much. But as evidence shows boeing knew the truth
Smoking is what left the telltale nicotine stain on the outside of the airplane. Reinstituting smoking on airliners might be a great idea, useful in detecting any other leaks.
@@omegavladosovich6757 ----- Lisa's real name must be "Karen", always telling other people what they can and can't do, and pointing out how rotten everybody is, making her a martyr for keeping them safe.
Having watched dozens of these airplane disaster videos, the overwhelming number of cases were due to sloppy maintenance. I'm NEVER flying again. Period.
I watched almost all the episodes….and still love flying. It’s safer to fly then drive statistically for a damn good reason. If people took at good care of their vehicles as they they require aircraft, cars would easily last 20 years or more. In fact I feel safer flying more then ever.
Ive broken my jaw twice in my life. Terrible...had to have my jaw wired shut both times. I still moved my jaw and mouth more than Frank Zakar when I spoke.
Never thought i would be one of those people who watch these episodes before getting on a flight..but here i am getting ready to travel soon🙂..dont recommend it lol..
Ohhhhh You would regret flying with me. After binge watching almost all the ACI episodes, I went on a flight to visit my mom. I apparently terrified the passengers near me recalling all the episodes while flying. Including full grown men. I as a slightly autistic female who is fascinated by disasters. I forget others sometimes don’t share that enthusiasm. 15 minuets prior to landing, one male passenger begged to stop with the stores. That when I noticed how pale he was and his death grip on his arm rest. I had to refrain from laughing. I think the fight attendant thought the sight of a small woman terrifying a big strong man like that was also a little funny. Sigh. I am an the type of girl to read the book “Airport” while flying. On another flight, a male passenger told me a I had to be insane to read that while flying. It was a good book! Upon landing (and finishing the book) in Chicago, I looked for security and asked them to tell ATC “Thank You” for keeping the skies safe for everyone. The security guard had a confused look on his face as if to wonder why I would make such an odd request. I then whipped out the book. Security guard:😳 You read THAT book while flying?! Ok. Sure thing. I will pass that on. I also made sure to thank HIM for what he did too.
Thanks for the UL...Very informative. What a shame the "maintenance" workers don't take a good hold of the situation that folks aboard have to deal with..."Live" or "Die" upon these planes... that they have been in charge of repair!
China Airlines, nothing to do with the current mainland China, was government run and hired crew with military backgrounds. There are many problems with corporate/military culture that plays a role in tragedies like this and the two TransAsia crashes.
lol when they are using rivet guns, starting at 37:49, the sound of a drill is played instead. Edit: and the rivet guns don't have any attachments on them for the rivet head.
My God.. could you imagine being on that plane when it cracked in half and fell to the ocean?? UNIMAGINABLE TERRIFYING!! It would have to cross anyone's mind (except for babies) that there is always a 50/50 chance that the airplane you're on could end up at the bottom of the ocean floor or on the side of the mountain! Definitely not a risk I'm willing to take 🥺😢
Well its more like a 1/29000000 chance but yea. Far more likely to get killed by a shark, and thats like 20x less likely than being hit by lighning. Most likely to die while youre driving to the airport.
Look at it this way: it took a multi-level failure (improper repair technique, improper secondary repair technique, improperly sized and located doubler plate, and improper documentation of the repair that made it impossible for anyone to realize, "wait, this wasn't done to code, pull that thing out of service right now and fix it properly!") And it *still* took 22 years before those myriad of screw ups caused the plane to fail catastrophically. Remove any one of those failures (they do the repair right. They do the secondary repair correctly, they use a proper doubler plate that actually reinforces the compromised area instead of just covering it up in such a way you can't tell there's a doubler there) or they document it properly so that someone examining the plane realizes "wait, this wasn't done right" and the plane would probably still be flying today.
22 years. The plane must have been repainted once or twice. Would think a third parting painting company would have noticed something and reported something and probably were told to not worry about it. Too bad management isn’t the focus.
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I don’t think I would have wanted to be on this ride without lots of the right armour if that’s possible? Is it?
I definitely would do the cannonball flight into a big net!
This is one of the rarest episodes of Mayday to find, I thank this channel.
Agreed
This is one of the best investigated episodes that I have seen
@Schlomo Baconberg You’re just making that up out of thin air. Why would the CCP care about the reputation of Taiwan’s national airline? If anything, they would want to spread this story
@@jeremiahbrand4838 it was a China Airlines flight. China Airlines is Taiwan's national airline.
@@jeremiahbrand4838 it's not about the reputation of an airline, it's the fact that the episode mentions the China Taiwan conflict, and the idea that China might've shot down the plane.
Imagine flying to investigate a crash on the same type of plane.
I know, right? I always think that same thought!🤣
Talk about bad deja vu!
Yikes!!! 😳 😅
Yeah, some of the investigators for the two Boeing MAX-8 crashes had to fly on a MAX-8 lol
On a reputable airline, I would have zero fear flying on a 747.
If you think maintenance is expensive try an accident.
Having worked as an admin in maintenance depts for transportation companies for over 20 years, you are spot on! Maintenance is not a money making part of the business but it will make you more money due to the quality of your equipment being maintained properly. We proved that at one company in spades. Shut the owner down hard! Best day of my working career.
Yup, all cheaping out on maintenance is gonna do is make things even more expensive later on
There are literally analysts who will calculate the cost of doing things properly vs the cost of paying out after something goes wrong. They look at the odds of an incident and related lawsuit potential and decide if it's worth the savings of cutting corners. That's why safety regulations are so important, because companies can't be trusted to do things right
You are so original
@@LennoxMatt1 yup, like the Ford Pinto exploding gas tanks. Ford calculated that it would be cheaper to fight/settle lawsuits and pay fines compared to recalling all the Pintos.
46:06 this part reminded me of my brother's school. He's a aircraft mechanic, and everyday, he and his classmates ate lunch in the hollowed out belly of a jumbo jet. The instructor told them on their first day "This is what happens to the plane if you cut corners. But imagine all of your classmates are dead next to you."
Yeah that made the rest of the graduation ceremony a bit darker, but hey it was effective
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@@Ihategobblegum actually I only have a father
My mother left
Oh hello fellow pancake 🥞
@@astronomydemon6312 lol
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If there is one thing that China Airlines Flight 611 and Japan Airlines Flight 123 taught Asia, it’s this: DO YOUR DAMN REPAIRS CORRECTLY.
Powerranger…my son loved that game…I want to say that the Japanese “NTSB” didn’t even want to let Boeing rep to inspect the damaged plane…it took several days for the Amricans to be allowed to see the wreck and investigate the cause of the damages.
China Airlines has now improved the repairs of its passenger planes. Southwest Air has also been forced to improve its repair history. That's great, but it's little comfort to the families of those lost on those airplanes.
No it hasn't. The US has had more. Its proven a lesson men refuse to learn...unregulated capitalism and the pursuit of profit is a plague. Its capitalism that let's lazy fools who never worked a day in their life sit behind a desk and take in cash while people die, mechanics are pushed to inhumane working conditions, people take the fall and lives are forever ruined. All for money. And the rich don't even have the good grace or class to be happy. They are miserable and become more sadistic with every penny their evil fingers touch. Profit is our disease.
@@HandthatRockstWorld Why don’t you go to a regulated socialist country and stop bi****ing! There you’ll be able to see what you think isn’t real!
@@marinazagrai1623 triggered already? Lol. We will regulate. Capitalists never win in the end. If it takes Paris 1789 or regulation, we always win.
hearing the voice recording, hearing the break up and then silence is just heart breaking
This is why integrity matters. The workers in reality LIED by falsifying their repair report . And hundreds died.😢
If you ask me those workers should be found and jailed and/or fined because their actions killed many
When they say that safety regulations are written in blood, this is exactly what is meant.
Yes. 😢
Agree. A decent # of existing safety regulations in other disciplines are bunk but not in flying
Human sacrifice
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that also called "tombstone politics "?
@GBeagle1407 I haven't heard that term but it fits well.
I swear I find the job of investigating these crashes pure fascinating and if I could rewind time, I’d pursue it for a career
Why not pursue it still. Plane crashes and accidents will continue to happen and computers will get more complicated as time goes on. The older crew will need you.
Same! I'm obsessed with plane crashes. I know it sounds morbid but I can't help it
I need to quit watching. My mum and dad are flying from South America to us in a few days...
The skill set of these investigators is amazing…!
For sure. They prob make bank because of it
The NTSB will leave no stone unturned to try and find the causes of crashes. They've been able to determine the causes of all but a handful of crashes in their history.
5:29 Seeing that body floating just breaks my heart. RIP to those poor souls. A reminder of why it's important to make sure repairs are done correctly. One little mistake can have enormous consequences.
There are a lot of A&P mechanics who fake it till they make it an thanks to Unions these sub-par mechanics are hard to fire
For as long as there are humans involved mistakes will be inevitable and some mistakes will end up with disastrous consequences. That's just the way it is. We learn more with each disaster, how to mitigate future ones but they will never completely dissipate
@Saif Khan yo mama ain’t smart enough since i can tell you aren’t too
@@23elgiePlayz with a name like that, he obviously has lots of knowledge about this kind of thing, especially if he's heavily involved with Grand theft auto video games once players of the game were allowed to fly fake Air craft. Key board warriors somehow seem to have a much higher intelligence than us normal people, who actually work and fly for a living..... If only we listened to more kids in mom's basement's!!!!!
As a mechanic, you are constantly under the gun to get repairs done ASAP. Or sooner than safety dictates.
That’s not okay!!
@@rosealexander9007 I agree.
TY🌹 for your hard work! We appreciate it.
But there is a QA guy to inspect the work that was done and sign it off if it's right.
I fly a plane from 1977 and its had a lot of repairs . You need to trust every past repair and every inspection and every part. There are few non important parts on an airplane.
Seriously 😒 are you serious 🧐. After watching many of these episodes I find that extremely hard to believe!!😬😬 seems to me that every single part is important!!
@@rosealexander9007 that’s what he said
@@elscorcho233 he said “ there are few non important parts on the airplane “ I highly doubt that. Every part must be important.
All that’s important is the plane can take off and land, interior lights are not important, nor are the windows or even cargo section of planes, lights and windows are needed in the cockpit not the cabin.
@@rosealexander9007 There would be a few parts that are either cosmetic or for convenience, but not necessary for the plane to fly safely. Overhead bins and storage, tray tables and those little built in TVs aren't necessary for a safe flight (although I guess to distract a passenger that might otherwise become unruly could be considered a safety measure 😅). Most parts are necessary, or help to increase safety, but not every single part would be, especially if you are thinking of the large passenger planes usually highlighted in these shows. :)
Thanks for uploading a FULL EPISODE! RIP to everyone on board!
I love this channel! I will investigate airlines before I fly again. My father had planes when I was growing up, I worked as a surgeon's nurse and we flew to a town every Thursday to do surgery and friends have planes. I was never afraid but watching this channel has had an impact on my psyche.
Me too ma’am. I was never afraid of flying until I’ve watched so many episodes of this. Now I have fear 😰
Same here! I always been phobic, I actually have to sedate myself because I just don’t like it. I try and manage but man turbulence etc scares me to no avail. Now I’m like nope I’m asking if there is fuel engine leaks, cargo door latches exchanged and put on right, see if there is structural damages before boarding, make sure there isn’t unnecessary chatter between pilots, did they sleep enough, are they doing their checks correctly etc man it’s crazy
@@melissapimentel8033 my same thoughts! It’s terrifying, that’s why I don’t like traveling.
It took 22 years and 20,000 flights and then that fateful moment!! It’s truly a shame it takes such tragedies to implement change. In this case, maintenance was slack in following up on the issue and responsible for basically “fudging” the paperwork in order to make it appear as though they had followed up. My husband is an MT for Boeing...he installs the landing gear. When an MT installs a job and QC buys the job off, the names of all involved are attached to that job for the life of the plane and beyond!!
I Always wonder for every improvement they make after a crash what if anything is sacrificed?
I mean humans have limitations and mistakes will be made. There is no such thing as a perfect system.
@@wowihaveachannel4862
The NTCB has an semi official motto when it comes to plane crashes.
“Every plane crash makes us safer”.
Which means that they try to learn from every crash and make flying safer for everyone as a result.
A good example of this is today, commercial jets have specific “air highways and altitudes” where they can fly legally.
Very early on in aviation, pilots would often fly following ground roads and highways. Which was great, until a collision occurred from someone coming the opposite direction.
Or how commercial planes used to have wooden airframe structures, until a break up occurred due to a cracked wooden support structure killed a well known Notra Dame coach at the time.
Then there was a case where a Norwegian commercial flight suddenly broke up in flight, and the cause was 3 out of 4 tail bolts were “fake”. AKA the cheap Home Depot kind, not the $300 a piece hight tensile strength kind required. That crash caused the NTSB to look at all their inventory, and realize that 25% of their stuff was “take or forged”. It caused 100’s of arrests in that black market, they even found a few “fake” parts on Air Force One. No crash due to fake parts has happened since commercially.
Heck, the first black box was created after a commercial plane crash in Australia early in commercial flying. It started as a simple sharp piece of metal leaving specific scratches in a plate of metal, to actual cockpit recordings (only 1/2 till recorded over in a loop), to a few digital recordings of mechanical occurrences, to 2 separate black boxes recording (one cockpit, one mechanical feedback) to suddenly longer recording times(an hour or longer), to now recording 100’s of parameters, 24 hour recordings, and the start of video(cockpit) recordings too!
Or the inclusion and updating of weather radar in aircraft.
Or why kids CAN’T touch the controls in flight (Pilots Son accidentally disengaged auto pilot and put plane in uncontrolled dive, killing everyone).
The evolution of the durability of those black boxes is a while other story.
Then you look the evolution of flight security and rules.
Why smoking is banned (several deadly fires while flying) why passengers and luggage must be matched(both must get on plane, due to an Air India bombing and the Pam Am bombing…both within months of each other), and the security changes due to 9/11……before you complied with Hijackers, now you dog pile them and help the stewardesses zip tie and duct tape them to a seat.
Oh. Let’s not forget why you need to put your shoes thru a metal detector (the shoe bomber) and why we have to have body scanners (underwear bomber).
Both of those punks are spending life in the Colorado Supermax.
Yep.
Rules and regulations are there for a damn good reason. Most are not written in ink, but in metaphoric blood.
Same with the fire code.
Not following them gets people killed.
You want actual video of what happens when the fire code is not followed?
Look up the “Great White Shark/ The Station Fire”. In the year 2000
A news camera man happened to not only catch the fire starting due to outdoor pyrotechnics being used inside AND catching the soundproofing catching on fire, but you see the panicked stampede of people to an exit, the screams, the terrified people jamming the door creating the “crush” so people could not get out, the billowing smoke, people trying to pull people out of the crush, and the sudden silence when the toxic fumes killed those trapped as the fire consumed the rest.
You catch one person leaping out of the roaring fire and smoke, their hair completely on fire.
100 people died. There were so many people injured, burned, or suffering from lung damage that the local Children’s Shriner hospital opened their doors to them because regular burn units were overwhelmed.
It’s terrifying to watch. But it needs to be seen.
Look up the “Iroquois Theater” Fire, the “Coconut Grove” Fire, and the “Triangle Coat Fire” just to name a few.
Oh. Fun fact. Most “modern” vehicle safely features were inspired by NASCAR crashes and driver injuries.
This is why NASCAR vehicles seem to crumple and fall apart to easily. It’s an attempt to protect the driver inside.
It’s why modern cars have crumple zones and airbags.
Heck. I remember when side and passenger airbags came into being.
@@equarg I am not disputing anything you have stated, although I'm not sure how one quantifies as modern car safety enhancements or what has come from nascar or car racing exactly.
I am old enough to remember driving with my parents when seat belts weren't required.
My point was what was sacrificed as in freedoms, higher costs etc. And even with all the safety advances there are still air plane accidents so it's not 💯% effective in prevention.
I don't
It's the airlines fault for flying the plane for so long
Progress unfortunately comes from tragedy 😔
How eery that these two pilots were together 22 years later.
China Airlines did learn their lesson after this accident. Since then, the only serious one was the China Airlines 120 fire that occurred on the ground just as the plane parked on the tarmac. There were a couple minor injuries, but everyone got out alive.
I was in a CH53 that caught fire while on the way back to America. We just got to the coast of SoCal. Flew from the deck of the now scrapped USS Bonhomme Richard back to our Marine Corps base. Made it 9 months in another country. Then the cargo hold/cabin of our bird starts smoking. Was probably a site to see. 20 Helo's flying in formation for our welcome home. Then seeing one of them billowing dark smoke. Thankfully we were only a few miles from the flight line and landed.
You mentioned the Chain 120 fire & it immediately made me think of my incident with an aircraft fire.
A very sad tragedy that cost the lives of 225 souls. They had no idea that their flight was doomed and all because of an improper structural repair. An entire section that was damaged years earlier had a "temporary repair done" and not replaced. Some maintenance engineers overlooked that section of the plane and it caused it to just break apart. Excellent thorough investigation; my respects to those people. RIP Flight Crew and all passengers of China Airlines Flight 611.
It's very rare, but it happens. Another major crash caused by a faulty repair was American Airlines Flight 191 in 1979. 273 died because 2 months earlier a forklift had accidentally bumped hard into an engine. They didn't inspect close enough for damage, and 2 months later the engine fell off during takeoff, causing the crash.
I worked as an Industrial Mechanic for many years so many job we did were not by the book because we were instructed by higher ups to do what cost less to do,so I’m sure the Airline Mechanics have the same issues.
Could you imagine seeing an aircraft of that size breaking up in mid -flight and falling to the ocean?
@Schlomo Baconberg Given the right substance it's possible to imagine almost anything.
Yes, often
There was a case in US where a civilian on the ground happened to have a camera with them and took a few pics of the plane, on fire, before it crashed.
The pictures helped the NTSB figure out what went wrong.
This was before digital cameras and picture taking cell phones existed.
In fact I think that happened twice…..
Whats more terrifying is the thought that there is a TINY chance you survive breakup and even the impact (especially small children) but you will drown before any chance to be rescued.
@@equarg wasn't that American airline 191 in 1979
Sounds very simmilar to that Japanese crash that was also caused by an incorrect repair from a tail strike, although in a slightly different failure way
Yes, Japan Airlines 123
Also reminds me of the Chalks seaplane crash.
Yep. It was the failure of the rear pressure bulkhead of the Japanese crash you mentioned.
If there is one thing that both accidents taught the mechanics in Asia, it’s this: DO YOUR DAMN REPAIRS CORRECTLY.
@@Powerranger-le4up that also happens in not just asian airlines
The work that these investigators do is really impressive
Anyone gonna mention the one investigator whose office cabinet is literally designed like a black box? (36:13)
Very observant of you! The guy must have a good sense of humor, probably necessary for the work he does. That was probably his own paint job - I'm sure the guys in accounting would never authorize such "frivolity", heh heh.
I noticed it too. I thought it was an awesome piece.
This is absolutely one of the greatest channels on YT, i have learned more about thee aviation industry then i ever thought i would have in such a short time, i love this channel!!!
Imagine being one of the ones sucked out upon it breaking up... Terrifying
Maybe they would have passed out due to lack of oxygen and didn't have to experience the entire fall. Takes a long time to fall 35,000 feet.
They would all pass out simultaneously
what I find more terrifying is the chance you will survive the breakup and impact into the water (especially small children - the human body can surprise you beyond limits), but there's next to zero chance you will be rescued.
The human body is both physically and mentally “designed” to handle catastrophic trauma. Going into shock blunts the horror and pain of the experience. It’s why you often hear/read about people not remembering traumatic or painful events. Yes, there is a very brief initial reaction (screams, etc.) but the human body loses most senses quickly and why these poor souls were probably out cold or dead before they could grasp the horrific magnitude of it.
@@dadduorp if they were knocked out they could still have eventually regained consciousness. Children probably survived longer but the problem was more they couldn't be rescued.
In regards to the pressurization. At 39:40, he says "as the plane climbs air is pumped into the cabin". Not quite. The air at sea level is 14.7 psi. The air pressure at 18,000 feet is half of that of sea level pressure. At 30,000 feet it is 4.3 psi. As the plane climbs, air needs to be released from inside the cabin so the skin does not burst. Bleed air is taken off the engine's compressors to pump air into the cabin because air will leak out over time, but it is not pumped in as the plane climbs to altitude. In fact, when you are flying at 30,000 feet, the air pressure inside the cabin is more than outside. Air is pulled off the engine bleed air to keep about the air pressure of 8,000 feet. If you pumped air into the cabin after takeoff, the pressure inside (even if it stayed at sea level pressure would be far too great compared to the pressure on the outside which would be around 4.3 psi at 30,000 feet. So you would have 14.7 psi inside and 4.3 psi outside. The air tube would blow outward ripping the aircraft apart.
Wow. I actually flew China Airlines many times. After that accident, and the one at Naha, there hasn’t been a major accident. They really did change after this accident and broke the 4 year curse.
That’s great ☺️
I’m glad for you. It could have been so much worse.
I love how thorough these episodes are when explaining the investigations. You can tell a lot of work goes into making these.
Why do people even pay for cable, with the kitchen nightmares YT channel and this channel, I got everything I could possibly want
Do you have a channel recommendation for ship sinking disasters?
Been waiting to see this episode for a long time.
10:56 The storage cabinet painted like a flight data recorder 👌
Wow...I cannot imagine what the passengers went through when this happened. You are 7 miles up and flying at probably 300knots or more. I would hope that the sudden lack of oxygen and the force of the wind would have killed everyone on board rather quickly. I would hope.
Mercifully most people would have passed out within seconds from lack of oxygen. Also, being suddenly subjected to that wind speed and -30 F temps. All of those together would have taken away most ability to process what had occurred.
The only thing that gives me any satisfaction is that I know their deaths were probably quick.
747 = Billions of passengers. Trillions of miles.
200,000 flights per year
366 passengers per flight.
Finally! I can watch the full episode on China airlines flight 611! I’ve been wanting to see one!
Same lmao
Crazy how we're all getting excited about watching an international tragedy 😂
@DavoPlayz yea same lol
Same here, I had to watch old episodes with low quality and ads on the bottom left on Dailymotion
Is there something special about this? I have seen several ppl excited about “finally” finding it. I don’t guess I had ever even heard about it...
This is HANDS DOWN the unluckiest plane in aviation maintenance history.
Incompetent repair job and crew, poor maintenance records of its parent airline, and a scheduled inspection that could've actually saved the plane all ended up with catastrophic failure.
@DavoPlayz That was only a period of seven years between tail strike and destruction, and even then the 747 was at the very least crudely controllable.
China Airlines 611 had a period of 22 years, numerous maintenance lookovers, and total disintegration.
Well, usually the DC-10 has been called the unluckiest plane. The truth is, when you factor in the massive number of 747's and DC-10s that have been built, and the aggregated MILLIONS of miles they have flown, neither of them are statistically unlucky. It might seem that way when we read or watch enough reports about large accidents. Today, we still have thousands of both those models still flying every day, flying cargo all over the world. Crashes are incredibly rare.
2008 Southwest Airlines revenue was $178mil. That $10.2mil fine was 5.7% of their yearly revenue.
This seemed very similar to another 747 crash. The result of that crash was the cargo bay door becoming unlocked due to a switch short on the door. It was noted that when the switch shorted the door would open despite having aluminum latches. Those aluminum latches bent out of shape during many other tests.
Oh yeah United Airlines Flight 811. Mayday has an episode on that from season 1 called Unlocking Disaster.
@@TrxieVTuberit was the first ever mayday episode
This was such a thorough video into the tragedy that started over two decades earlier. I wonder as time goes on, if there will be any capable caring workers to do the right thing to our airplanes that we put so much stress on day after day; year after year; flight after flight. Such an awful way for people to leave the earth falling thousands of miles into the seas or ground. 😞
Thanks for uploading the full episode this time. Please do so for all future episodes moving forward.
yes.!!!!!
This same thing happened to JAL Flight 123, tail strike, bad repair.
Old planes should be decommissioned. It would prevent accidents like this one.
not really, as long as you do repairs correctly you'll be fine.
It's crazy that two 747's crashed because of improper repairs done after a tail strike. The first crash happened to Japan Airline's flight 123 in 1985 and the second was China Airline's flight 611 in 2002.
Imagine falling out of a plane at 30 thousand feet. My God talk about terrorized.
God damn... I can’t even think of it..
All of these stories is because maintenance didn’t fix something correctly because they “didn’t want to spend money” this is crazy man. After watching al of these stories, I am officially scared to hop on a plane now 🥺😭
Just start your own airline and do the maintenance yourself that way you know that it's done correctly
Uh oh, don't let China hear you referring to Taiwan as a country lol
The reenactment is spot on.
I thought after Aloha airlines had that plane rip apart like that all airlines were going to be inspecting their aircraft especially ones that had a tail strike.
Too expensive :(
@@bradmiller2329 so is paying out wrongful death suits 🤷🏻
I've watched many of these shows & it's always the same: the mechanic's concerns are overridden by supervisors' concern for the cheap. I feel for you guys.
Yes it
I've been waiting so long for this episode
@TheOldTeaPot ikr
Glad you were able to find it then. It’s pretty unique..
Thanks for the upload🌞
Thanks for the upload! Could you upload the episode on AF447? I happened to be on that aircraft (F-GZCP A330-203) on 30th May 2009, a day before it crashed!
Check the Wonder account. They uploaded it. And if I’m wrong, check On The Move.
No it’s, on the move that’s the channel
@@xiayabennett6982 Thanks, I found it!
Thanks for new upload. Plus im finally early to a video. Hello Airplane loving friends.
Greetings from southeast ,Kentucky friend. Stay safe folks.
Greetings from Charleston, SC
What’s up fellow aviation nerds haha..
@@garylefevers KFC love it. I used to work at a KFc when i was 16 much love.
@@kenzierocks1240 much love
If the oceans and seas dried out, how much wreckage would we find?
This is something i might always wonder
China airline was notorious for their accidents. I once flew China airline when I was in my twenties. Right when it was about to take off on the runway, their engine blew sparks. They did a emergency stop. Made everyone get off the plane and catch a next day flight. I swore to never fly China airline again.
And now they're coming out with their own commercial plane. Anyone who would get on ANYTHING that has "Made in China" on it and ride it up to 30,000 feet, has more courage than I will ever have.
Compared to the history of Russian airlines, China has done a great job.
What are they just lazy? Do these mechanics ever think that their family may be on one of these planes. It’s just disgusting
One thing I don't like about Mayday is how they highlight these types of defects that should have been caught by inspection programmes as being the fault of the mechanics who conducted them-- in reality the fault lies with the airlines, who understaff, under-train, and tell mechanics to do more with less. This practice has a body count, not only in aviation but in all sectors of the economy, as tired and burnt-out people make mistakes, get into auto accidents, and spread illness.
@@BillyBillyYeah not the case here. There is a lot of wrong in corporate and military culture which led to this event. The rival Taiwanese airline EVA Air has had a far better safety record and they tend to outsource pilots more than CAL which uses military pilots. Taoyuan Airport is great now but it has literally been rotting behind the walls, it still falls behind Changi, Narita or HK.
The mechanics are not lazy in most cases it is the bosses that say you have 2 hours to get this plane in the air and the bosses dont care what needs to be fixed the bosses will sign off that it is fixed and safe
Respect to these people
Yes! Thanks
I am one of hundreds who saw a crashed airplane not far from PDX. It was in a stand of tall trees. It did not burn and I do not remember how many passengers and crew were on it.
I dunno how am i gonna ever fly again? My anxiety will be off the roof.
Aviation technology and procedures have come such a long way!!
Imagine being the investigators that fly out to these places
Don't fly, then.
That's like saying "How am i ever gone get in a car again?". You have a much much higher chance of dying in a car accident than an aircraft crash.
Chances of dying in a car: 1 in 115
Chances of dying in a plane: 1 in 9,900.
Again? I’ve never been on a airplane and have no desire to. I have watched this channel now for months and it tells me everything I need to know about keeping my feet on the ground.
I have waiting for this one to come
Great work of investigation. Thank you for sharing!
I watched another episode about a Mayday flight taking off from Taiwan and accidently being in the wrong runway when departing. It's the same actor. LOL. Guess I've watched quite a few of these episodes
And that was Singapore airlines flight 006
It seems every time they search it's so difficult to find the lost aircraft and they seem to never find anything else of significance. It just shows how massive the Ocean actually is.
RIP to the victims of Flight 611. Thanks for the upload.
Damn. Just like Japan Airlines Flight 123 in 1985. Feel very sorry for the passengers and also for the mechanics who worked on this plane.
I wish this show would make new episodes. Same with Seconds From Disaster
They’re working on a new season afaik
...and "TheFlightchannel" just A M A Z I N G !
I mean new episodes means more plane crashes so maybe we don’t want anymore new episodes
@DavoPlayz I like it because it does more than just planes. I'd love to see on for things like the Lac Megantic train disaster, some of those massive explosive industrial accidents...
@DavoPlayz to be fair the Lac Megantic crash was less than an hour away from me and the train passed by my house earlier that evening
they need to train this mechanics a lot better we have seen too many life's taken away from these mechanical mistakes and its very sad due to the company profit and taking the cheap easy route
This channel is awesome keep um comin.
😳 well this one is by far the most terrifying
As a Ukrainian, I appreciate the narrator properly referring to Ukraine, as simply Ukraine, instead of inserting the often used, and highly unnecessary article "the".
43:00, smoking almost saved the plane and helped in the investigation.
Currently watching this In the airport 2 hours away from takeoff
lol 😂 your good 👍
Never been on a airplane and thanks to this channel I have no desire to.
Must be Nice at 35,000ft and Your Plane Just Snaps in Half...Passenger Air Travel is an ABSURD Concept
Doing something halfway is as good as not doing it at all.
This is such a sad sad story of negligence and oversight
Air pressure at the speeds experienced, is extreme. Any weakness will be revealed.
Damn, there are so many kinds of cool software out there these days. I was in the tech support business just as IBM PC's were starting to really take off, and I've seen a lot of improvements and changes in things, but since I was between the programmers or system techs and the end users, I didn't have much exposure to many types of software, just whatever the companies I was working for at the time were selling. I was in database or vertical market sectors.
Anyway I STILL get a kick out of what the programmers and engineers come up with. Software to describe debris tracks, software to rebuild airplanes from bits and pieces...
Technology. What a kick... :-) :-)
Very possible that a manager or boss told the maintainance people to sign off on the job being done correctly despite it not being done. And when you have done that stuff 20 years with no issues it gets worse. Looks like the boeing requirements to too much. But as evidence shows boeing knew the truth
SO WTF THEN...???
HOPE THEY GOT SUED...!!!!
Boeing isn’t responsible for this one. Maintenance was
Most crashes are down to the pilots due to tiredness or lack of training.
The maintenance crew should be sued or Imprisoned.
Mechanics are employees doing what they are told.
Thank God you don't run anything important and only post gibberish on the internet.
@@jimthompson8947
Okay.
I'm sure you're unemployed
They may as well not even have bothered to even attempt in fixing this issue. It is criminal really, for it was avoidable.
P.S. Please stop smoking ❤
Smoking is what left the telltale nicotine stain on the outside of the airplane. Reinstituting smoking on airliners might be a great idea, useful in detecting any other leaks.
Smoking is only good for two things....
1. Keeping tobacco companies wealthy. Which really is not "good."
2. Death.
@@Lisa1111 I can do whatever I want, especially in isolation from other passengers. I don't need someone policing my personal habits.
Your name fits perfectly...."End"
@@omegavladosovich6757 ----- Lisa's real name must be "Karen", always telling other people what they can and can't do, and pointing out how rotten everybody is, making her a martyr for keeping them safe.
Goes to prove the wisdom of the old adage that when you assume, you make an ass out of both you and me.
out of U and Me
Yep. I agree 100%.
There is no Chinese Confucius here buddy.
@@werearethedreamteam3724 Confucius was Korean
Imagine if the plane carrying the NTSB investigators crashed on the way there
Dumb comment.
@@Waynestarr not really. I think I recall something like that happening somewhere. I'll see if I can verify.
Having watched dozens of these airplane disaster videos, the overwhelming number of cases were due to sloppy maintenance.
I'm NEVER flying again. Period.
I watched almost all the episodes….and still love flying.
It’s safer to fly then drive statistically for a damn good reason.
If people took at good care of their vehicles as they they require aircraft, cars would easily last 20 years or more.
In fact I feel safer flying more then ever.
I’ve seen all the episodes and the majority are pilot error since humans are more complex than machines.
@@Powerranger-le4up and maintenance crews are NOT human?
Hmmm...
hey could you do more episodes from sessions 1-4 because there geolocked in my country
Please tell me that there are more requirements these days to make sure crappy repair isnt Overlooked anymore.
This story is so sad.
Great video. . . . . .thank you for the upload!
Ive broken my jaw twice in my life. Terrible...had to have my jaw wired shut both times. I still moved my jaw and mouth more than Frank Zakar when I spoke.
Never thought i would be one of those people who watch these episodes before getting on a flight..but here i am getting ready to travel soon🙂..dont recommend it lol..
Lol samezies
Ohhhhh
You would regret flying with me.
After binge watching almost all the ACI episodes, I went on a flight to visit my mom.
I apparently terrified the passengers near me recalling all the episodes while flying. Including full grown men.
I as a slightly autistic female who is fascinated by disasters. I forget others sometimes don’t share that enthusiasm.
15 minuets prior to landing, one male passenger begged to stop with the stores. That when I noticed how pale he was and his death grip on his arm rest.
I had to refrain from laughing. I think the fight attendant thought the sight of a small woman terrifying a big strong man like that was also a little funny.
Sigh. I am an the type of girl to read the book “Airport” while flying.
On another flight, a male passenger told me a I had to be insane to read that while flying.
It was a good book!
Upon landing (and finishing the book) in Chicago, I looked for security and asked them to tell ATC “Thank You” for keeping the skies safe for everyone.
The security guard had a confused look on his face as if to wonder why I would make such an odd request.
I then whipped out the book.
Security guard:😳 You read THAT book while flying?! Ok. Sure thing. I will pass that on.
I also made sure to thank HIM for what he did too.
Thanks for the UL...Very informative.
What a shame the "maintenance" workers don't take a good hold of the situation
that folks aboard have to deal with..."Live" or "Die" upon these planes... that they have been in charge of repair!
China Airlines, nothing to do with the current mainland China, was government run and hired crew with military backgrounds. There are many problems with corporate/military culture that plays a role in tragedies like this and the two TransAsia crashes.
@Redbo Black that's another matter, and they blamed it on the Korean air traffic controller.
lol when they are using rivet guns, starting at 37:49, the sound of a drill is played instead.
Edit: and the rivet guns don't have any attachments on them for the rivet head.
My God.. could you imagine being on that plane when it cracked in half and fell to the ocean?? UNIMAGINABLE TERRIFYING!!
It would have to cross anyone's mind (except for babies) that there is always a 50/50 chance that the airplane you're on could end up at the bottom of the ocean floor or on the side of the mountain! Definitely not a risk I'm willing to take 🥺😢
Well its more like a 1/29000000 chance but yea. Far more likely to get killed by a shark, and thats like 20x less likely than being hit by lighning. Most likely to die while youre driving to the airport.
Look at it this way: it took a multi-level failure (improper repair technique, improper secondary repair technique, improperly sized and located doubler plate, and improper documentation of the repair that made it impossible for anyone to realize, "wait, this wasn't done to code, pull that thing out of service right now and fix it properly!") And it *still* took 22 years before those myriad of screw ups caused the plane to fail catastrophically. Remove any one of those failures (they do the repair right. They do the secondary repair correctly, they use a proper doubler plate that actually reinforces the compromised area instead of just covering it up in such a way you can't tell there's a doubler there) or they document it properly so that someone examining the plane realizes "wait, this wasn't done right" and the plane would probably still be flying today.
50/50 ? Really? I had no idea until I read your post that I had a 50/50 chance of dying each time I took a flight. Incredible.😑
the "22 years later" at the beginning was a bit confusing
0:17 is it just me or does that first officer looks like One of the UA-camr of the stoke twins?
41:00 is so chilling to watch. Makes me feel very uneasy.
Cutting corners, cutting lives short
oh wow i’ve never seen this one before! good job 👍🏽
22 years. The plane must have been repainted once or twice. Would think a third parting painting company would have noticed something and reported something and probably were told to not worry about it. Too bad management isn’t the focus.