yeah man 5 quarts of full synthetic is like 20 bucks and a filter is 5 bucks...i will never understand why people don't change oil as often as possible
Most mechanics will say change oil at 5000 miles. See Car Care Nut UA-cam channel. Scotty Kilmer also recommends 5000 mile oil changes. I’m very skeptical of 25,000 mile oil changes! JD Power is initial quality it doesn’t speak to the quality of the vehicle after driving 100,000 miles! EV’s are good for transporting your golf clubs down the fairway!😂
I don't care what "fool's gold" they're selling now, 5K mile oil change intervals will save you a ton of heartache over the course of ownership of your vehicle. It amounts to 2-3 oil changes a year for the avg driver. Especially since everything seems to be reducing displacement and adding forced-induction, adding stress to the overall function of the engine.
But does it really matter? It might help keeping an engine 500K or more but not many people keep vehicles long enough for it to matter. Lots of people hit 150K-200K with 10K OCI then the rest of the vehicle starts falling apart anyway.
I’d love to have my oil changed a couple of times a year however, my job requires me to drive roughly 270 miles per day x5 and i reach the 5k mark before the month ends haha
I have a 2016 jeep grand Cherokee I bought at 125k miles. Mostly highway often oil changes. All of its oil changes were every 10k miles. Once I got it was the same once the screen said to change it (9k-10k)I’d change it. Until 186k miles. Most of the miles were highway. Now at 191k for weekends only. I do it every 5k miles.
I’ve been an Amsoil user for nearly 30 years. I believe in their products because I’ve never been disappointed especially in my 2 and 4 cycle small engine equipment. For my vehicles, I have always stuck with 5,000 mile oil changes not because I don’t trust Amsoil but if there was an oil related engine failure, do you really want the hassle and expense of proving it? No. To be fair, today most name brand oils are far better today than 20 years ago, regardless of oil viscosity or specification.
Talk to me about Ram quality after 50,000 miles and beyond. I’m still reeling from my wonderful experience on my one and only new Chrysler that visited the dealer 14 times in the first year and needed a new trans at 38,000. No Tks. And we won’t get into all the little crap issues it had and the crappy dealer service.
I am on my fourth Dodge/Ram in 20 years. All have held up better than, yes better than, the Fords and GM trucks I have owned before. My buddy has an '03 Cummins with 480K. Another friend is a hot-shotter and has gone 380K on a 3500, 450K on a 4500, and is already well over 200K on his current '22 5500.
@@1hasbeen531 good for you. I’m happy. But what I’ve read and my personal experience, and the big financial issues of the parent company, I’ll stick to my GM. But that’s why there is a variety.
I just get a standard synthetic oil and change it every 5,000 miles or 6 months. My anxiety won’t allow me to let it go 25,000 miles no matter how great the oil might be.
Just change your oil when you personally believe it needs to be done. The consequences are yours to suffer. Good luck. I’m good with 5,000 miles. Lake Speed Jr. has good information on the subject.
Never doing more than 5000 on an oil change.. don’t care what the oil engineer says … oil change intervals were designed for fleets they could sell lower maintenance cost
Not smart .. Don't ever change oil just add when needed... 381,745 on my 2004 4 runner, never changed oil jut add and change the filter every year... no issues
I don't recommend never changing oil like the above comment. I don't recommend what I did either, going 12-15k between changes using Mobil 1 20k mile oil and 20k filter. I was doing mostly HWY driving and only some occasional towing. I had that truck for 15 years and it didn't use, burn, or leak oil even at 255k miles. I should have never traded that truck in. Long oil changes worked for me, but I won't say it will work for everyone.
Until they make an oil filter that can remove the diesel-like soot that GDI engines generate, there's no way I'm going anywhere close to 25k miles. That soot is abrasive. Let's see valvoline test that oil in a vehicle that does primarily short trips in extremely cold weather for 25k miles. That's where engine oils need to improve.
Other than the Hornet, Dodge products are quite dated. The Charger's interior has been largely unchanged for 11 years now. They probably don't share that many parts.
Hell must of frozen over. Ram is good but Toyota must of fallen. To fluid changes I chatted with a few people He is what a few said. If you use your truck as a truck. Example 1/2 ton you tow 3500-6500 pounds 4 days out of the week change it 3,000 miles if it’s a SUV rarely tows 3000 pounds maybe 4500miles. 3/4 ton trucks same thing I don’t care if you only had 3500 behind it for a total mileage of 900 miles change it at 3,000miles. Auto trans change them around 30,000-40,000 your diffs Same thing 30-40,000miles. Btw check all filter. If it’s newer than 06 check see if the cabin filter has been replaced.
Castrol is making a pretty safe bet with that warranty. Limiting it to 6 years or 125K miles means they will be able to claim that almost any failure is a manufacturing defect. You could probably run vegetable oil in most modern engines and get 6 years or 125K miles before a major problem manifested.
Excellent reliability on my Lightning 23k km so far. I must have got a good one. The EV crowd seem like a fickle bunch, so I'm sure they are into the dealer for every tiny little squeak and rattle (and phone things). Sorry to hear about the fat comments, some awfully brave comments online these days. I thought the video was good.
It’s interesting what they can do with these new formulations. For me I’ll stick with the manufacturer’s recommendations in the manual. I usually stick with the heavy use recommendations due to my useage case.
Until you and all the big UA-cam reviewers actually do it themselves a show the outcome I can guarantee that no one's going to do it especially if it's a vehicle that you pay for
I went as far as 30,000 with Amsoil on a 2001 GMC with a Duramax engine, I was oil sampling and they said it was good for continued use, I changed it anyway. I had the bypass filter system on the truck and changed the filters every 6 months plus added 3 quarts of oil, I sold the truck to a friend with 90,000 miles on it he still had it and it has 360,000 miles on it and it runs good.
I can 100% belive the hemi is the quality king..now the question will be the hurricane..and if the 3.0 can live up to other legendary str8 6s like slant 6 , ford 300 and jeep 4.0..unquestionably RAM is quality king
I drove a Dodge Magnum RT hemi 400,000 miles and changed oil every 10k for the first 100k, second 100 k with 20k changes and 300-400k 25,000 mile changes. UOA every change. Had to add 1 qt at around 20,000 mi. Got structural rust in the frame areas, so junked it. Penzoil Platinum 5w20.
That's the biggest issue right there....longevity of the rest of the vehicle. In today's vehicles, I don't worry about the engine like I used to. It'll do fine. But the rust is what kills the all....
My father has the same car, subframe rot is killing great cars. The thing weighs over 4K lbs. They could have put a little more steel and made it last twice as long.
If you try a 25,000 mile oil change interval on a new car and have an engine problem you will end up in a losing battle between Castrol and the manufacturer and YOU will be the loser!
@genehart261 A warranty can not be denied unless the issue is PROVEN to be a cause of failure! In the case of oil, an "OIL ANALYSIS" will prove if the oil caused an issue! However, having said that, if an oil caused a failure of an engine, EVERYONE using that oil would have the same issues, as Oils are formulated and made in HUNDREDS of gallons at a time!
This is all about the EPA ! they want cleaner oil -thinner oils for fuel economy and extended OCI's for environmental reasons not longevity of the engine ! Anything ILSC GF6 and correct weight will suffice ! I myself use pennzoil ultra platinum and fram ultra syn filter and never looked back !
they dont want cleaner oil, they want less oil being used. so they basically dont want ppl changing oil anymore, they dont care if your car only lasts 100K miles
lol...yep! It's the gov't! They are coming for your funnels! Think maybe it has something to do with the modern, better built engines and higher technology in the oil? The fact that these engines and high OCIs last much longer than engines just 20-30years ago? No? Ok, yeah, it's a conspiracy.
A friend of mine bought a brand new Jeep Cherokee years ago. It off-gassed so badly that she had to take it back to the dealer because the windows would constantly fog up due to a film on the windows. Some vehicles are definitely worse than others.
I have had two rams so far a 2019 longhorn with the hemi and a 2021 laramie. I put 60k on each and had ZERO issues. Did not go with Ram due to new motors
Direct Injected engines typically show as much as 3 to 5 percent fuel dilution even with 5,000 mile oil change intervals. How does any oil maintain protection when it's diluted by gasoline?
Direct injection engines show absolutely, positively 100% working and normally functing oil at 10k and 15k to anyone who has ever sent their oil in for analysis at Blacstone etc, source otherwise
Did I hear that correctly . . . the the warranty is void after your vehicle has gone 125k miles? So basically your motor is trash by the 125k mark. So much for long OCIs.
also notice that they say you have to follow manufacturer severe service schedule for vehicles under 18,000 miles. Also they won’t pay out more than $5,000 on repairs.
Recently bought a 2024 Ram 2500 Hemi, took to dealership with just over 1000 miles to have first oil change (I still believe in breaking in an engine), they put on my window sticker that my next oil change should be at 11,000 miles (10,000 mile interval for those mathematically challenged). Looked it up in my owners manual, states “never exceed 8,000 miles between oil changes”. Summary, never listen to what a dealership or manufacturer says. Do your own research and then you do you!
Not a chance I do 6000. I feel pretty comfortable with that because I sent my oil in and have it tested and all the time they tell me I can go farther but 6000 out for me personal opinion you gotta be damn near 25,000 I don’t care what kind of warranty. I’ve never seen a warranty worth of shit to start with.
Oil is not that expensive so don't be a tight as$ when it comes to service. If you can afford a new or fairly new vehicle, you can afford the oil and filter.
We own 4 vehicles in our household, the 2 newer truck & SUV have oil changes annually due to the lack of miles driven which is only around 2500 - 4,000 miles, we’ve done this for years with our low mileage vehicles with 0 issues!
So many are quick to have an opinion on old change intervals. The heavy equipment industry did intensive testing on this and many of the OEMs running in extreme conditions settled on 500 hr oil change intervals. Engines know hours, not miles driven as that doesn't account for accurate run time. Most vehicles have hour meters now, and most would be surprised how little hours engine run time they actually change the oil at.
@@fit4ya1975 I think the manufacturers speak in a language that car owners understand, and milage seems to be it. The cab driver driving throughout a city with allot of idle time can have double the engine hours vs another driver doing all highway running.
Not a good idea. Heavy equipment generally run at a much more constant RPM and duty cycle than cars so they just track hours of operation. Cars are up and down the RPM gauge, towing than not towing, fast then slow, etc. Which is why the manufacturers created those tracking algorithms. They know when you are at hwy speed or towing and adjust the OCI.
Do they recommend a certain filter just because the oil can last 25k dose not mean the filter can last 25k I do the good old 5,000 mile change it works for me
@davidporter7051 Of reliability. Both JD power and Consumer Reports ranked the Ram 1500 highest of any full-size pickup in reliability. Most people will be plenty happy with the Hurricane, far better low end torque than a NA V8 which is what you want for towing.
My lightning has had 2 issues in 14k miles. 1. A cell in the battery went bad. It was fixed in a week. 2. It ended up being my GPS receiver being bad. That took a long time to fix 10 months). I had taken it in 4 times. I use a very large ford dealership in eastern Nebraska. They have 1 tech qualified to work on it. And it's new tech, so it does take longer...
Well once again Ram hit the target for 5 years running. Now the Mopar haters are still in denial. They cannot accept positive change. Eventually they may come to there senses. 😅
Hey Tim, If my memory serves me correctly, Amsoil offered this high mileage oil way back in the late 70’s or early 80’s! So, nothing new or mind altering here! As always stay safe and healthy. Ron
Oil change intervals are highly subjective. On our Subaru Ascent, over 4k miles there is over 8% fuel dilution verified by Oil Analyzers Inc. Blackstone is crap. They use a calculation of the the base oil and flash point to determine the fuel dilution, where as OAI use Gas Chromatography which breaks it down to a molecular level. If I went 10k, let alone 25k, it’d likely be 20% or higher fuel dilution. I have proof that Blackstone is crap vs OAI with my oil analysis’s.
@@sammyjammy6647 depends on the car. The only way to know is to do frequent oil analysis’s to find what works best. A good rule of thumb is 5k mile OCI’s. It also depends on driving habits, idle time and climate.
@@cpftank09 Correction: on your vehicle, you observed this amount of fuel dilution. Your car is a data set of one and you cannot make recommendations for an entire model based upon your results. If anyone is interested, they should get a report on their car even if it is the same make, model, and year. How you drive and where you drive matters.
@@matthewgaines10 there have been a few other Ascent owners with similar fuel dilution, at least 5% over 4-5k miles. Though the Ascent community isn’t much of an enthusiast community. The Outback XT and Wilderness groups have noted high fuel dilution as well and they have the same engine.
The engine warranty alone may make that oil worthwhile even if you don't let it go that long. Once you're out of factory warranty, that is. Although I'm guessing it will be difficult to prove any issue is oil related.
Back in the 1980s, a mechanic told me that you could run synthetic oil for 15 thousand miles if you changed the oil filter after every 5k miles. His theory was that this type of oil does not breakdown like conventional oils. I personally use synthetic oil and change it every 5k miles.
@@cantwealljustgetalong2 Thanks for the reply. It’s a little more involved with more differences than what you are suggesting, but it’s all good and far too complicated a subject to deal with in a comment section. Have a good weekend!
The thing that amazes me over the last decade is vehicle manufacturers requiring lubricant makers to reverse engineer lubricants to solve their design problems.
EPA is see longer you go on a oil change the less used oil there is there is a video out like 2 months on Dave’s auto center page with the oil geeks they get real deep
Yes, you can go 25k miles for oil changes if you drive many miles in a short time like my buddy who had a 2013 Sienna. The van had over 400k miles before it was totaled in an accident.
@dang5553 Tim said it well, it all depends how you use your car. I had Limo business back and do you think we changed the oil every 2 weeks? That was usually the time we were driving 5000 miles. I personally changed the oil at 10k miles on 2 of my personal vehicles, at 7.5k for my Honda, and now I do the oil changes for my Tundra every 5k. The interesting thing is when I look at my records, I changed the oil every 4 months. It is just that the 10k oil intervals happened when I lived in Florida. Obviously, we put more miles there. Now I live in a smaller town in WA and we drive 15k Mike's per year. As I said, my buddy is a Uber driver in Orlando. His Sienna clocked 430k miles when someone hit him and the van was totalled. He used Mobil 1 extended interval oil, I believe the one that was rated for 15k, but because he was putting a lot of miles for a short time, he was changing the oil every 25k. For taxi/Uber drivers, it is different. I sometimes tow heavy stuff and I see that my oil consumption goes up. I still do not add oil, but if I had to follow Toyota's 10k recommendation, I would have added. I see normally 0.5 quarts drop for every 5k, bur if I tow, it is 1 quart every 5k.
When one compares maintenance service schedule's, most driver's would fall into a severe service schedule. Which is stop and go driving, short trips, less then four miles, in a city, and/or somewhat dusty environment, with variable temperatures. Towing and hauling generally also can put one into a severe service schedule. Normal or regular service which is more highway, less stop and go in a rural environment where the average drive is more then 10 miles. As someone who has run a fleet of vehicle's, and done many oil sample analysis for various comparisons I would say best bet is to change oil every 5,000-7500 miles, using a good quality Full synthetic, and premium oil filter. Changing oil/filter at least twice a year, as oil does break down over time. Oil and filters are cheap in cost, compared to paying to replace an engine.
Try telling that to the countless millions who use it every time they get into their cars for maps/accidents/detours, weather, notifications, alerts, streaming music, and more.
Tim your right foot will be the farthest in the truck when you sit so it should be the first foot that enters the truck, which means you start by stepping up on the step with your left foot then stand up on the step and swing your right foot in the truck and sit. This is for the driver, and in reverse for the passenger
You wish. But the Ram 1500 was also ranked the most reliable full-size pickup in Consumer Reports ratings for 2023. CR gets data from tens of thousands of owners so it's far more reputable than JD Power. Since the Tundra switched to the new engine, Ram is now firmly the most reliable full-size truck.
I think Toyota’s 10k mile changes are dumb, so do several Toyota techs on here. 25k would be like trying to destroy your engine asap. For our Subarus that hold about 5qts, I change every 5-6k miles with premium filter. My 21 Tacoma holds about 6qts, I go 6/7k on it between changes. If a Turbo engine, I’d change every 5k.
I actually like the GMC setup. The rock sliders have a step option that can be taken on and off for offroading wish I could find the same setup for my ranger raptor now
@@brianmaloney5430 Don't be butt hurt man.. somebody has to be number one it might as well be ram.... sounds like all the other manufactures are falling apart....
Just because a vehicle is reliable doesn't mean it will sell well. The Ram 1500 was also the rated most reliable full-size pickup in Consumer Reports ratings for 2023. CR is the most reputable index we have in the US for vehicle reliability as they go by data from tens of thousands of owners.
@@1gr8oil yeah exactly to tell me that the "full"🎚️is fine I don't think so! A car generally starts to burn 🛢️ if you leave it in past 10,000 mi because there's only so many detergents that can only take so much & then it starts to burn 📴... That's why you need a dipstick so you personally can ✅ , not only the🎚️but the condition of the🛢️ by the way it feels, smells & looks! I would use that oil at last for 25K but change it at like 7,500 mi lol... I bought my Tacoma brand 🆕 1st 🛢️ change 545, 2nd 🛢️ change 2,500 3rd 🛢️ change 5,500 4th 8,500 & 5th 12K... Didn't need the 2nd 🛢️ change at 2,500 but I have peace of 🧠 after inspecting the 🛢️ filter & everything is kosher. I Rev the shit out of it but take good care of it. OTT tune & drop in air filter + sumo springs truck runs & drives totally different & much better than 🦴 stock form. Is it a perfect truck❓nope but it's a damn good one so far. 🤷
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An oil change doesn’t hurt my wallet, a broken engine will hurt my wallet for sure.
yeah man 5 quarts of full synthetic is like 20 bucks and a filter is 5 bucks...i will never understand why people don't change oil as often as possible
Just talking about 25k oil change is making me call my therapist. 😂
Likewise 😅😅😅
Pep-Boys had to add a recover team because of people swooning and passing out after reading the label...lol!
Most mechanics will say change oil at 5000 miles. See Car Care Nut UA-cam channel. Scotty Kilmer also recommends 5000 mile oil changes. I’m very skeptical of 25,000 mile oil changes! JD Power is initial quality it doesn’t speak to the quality of the vehicle after driving 100,000 miles! EV’s are good for transporting your golf clubs down the fairway!😂
I don't care what "fool's gold" they're selling now, 5K mile oil change intervals will save you a ton of heartache over the course of ownership of your vehicle. It amounts to 2-3 oil changes a year for the avg driver. Especially since everything seems to be reducing displacement and adding forced-induction, adding stress to the overall function of the engine.
But does it really matter? It might help keeping an engine 500K or more but not many people keep vehicles long enough for it to matter. Lots of people hit 150K-200K with 10K OCI then the rest of the vehicle starts falling apart anyway.
I do a lot of short trips...3k and mine is dark brown
@@mikeschlup5279 It's gonna be dark brown in about 24hrs of driving. Color means nothing.
I’d love to have my oil changed a couple of times a year however, my job requires me to drive roughly 270 miles per day x5 and i reach the 5k mark before the month ends haha
@@ck1abe515 Sounds like this oil is made for you.
Ram on top of quality is almost as crazy as the debate last night. Wild times we live in!
I have a 2016 jeep grand Cherokee I bought at 125k miles. Mostly highway often oil changes. All of its oil changes were every 10k miles. Once I got it was the same once the screen said to change it (9k-10k)I’d change it. Until 186k miles. Most of the miles were highway. Now at 191k for weekends only. I do it every 5k miles.
I’ve been an Amsoil user for nearly 30 years. I believe in their products because I’ve never been disappointed especially in my 2 and 4 cycle small engine equipment.
For my vehicles, I have always stuck with 5,000 mile oil changes not because I don’t trust Amsoil but if there was an oil related engine failure, do you really want the hassle and expense of proving it? No.
To be fair, today most name brand oils are far better today than 20 years ago, regardless of oil viscosity or specification.
Talk to me about Ram quality after 50,000 miles and beyond. I’m still reeling from my wonderful experience on my one and only new Chrysler that visited the dealer 14 times in the first year and needed a new trans at 38,000. No Tks. And we won’t get into all the little crap issues it had and the crappy dealer service.
Mine has 150K and doing fine. Just normal wear and tear so long term quality is great.
I am on my fourth Dodge/Ram in 20 years. All have held up better than, yes better than, the Fords and GM trucks I have owned before.
My buddy has an '03 Cummins with 480K. Another friend is a hot-shotter and has gone 380K on a 3500, 450K on a 4500, and is already well over 200K on his current '22 5500.
@@1hasbeen531 good for you. I’m happy. But what I’ve read and my personal experience, and the big financial issues of the parent company, I’ll stick to my GM. But that’s why there is a variety.
I just get a standard synthetic oil and change it every 5,000 miles or 6 months. My anxiety won’t allow me to let it go 25,000 miles no matter how great the oil might be.
A good, common sense approach......pretty much what I do too.
Just change your oil when you personally believe it needs to be done. The consequences are yours to suffer. Good luck. I’m good with 5,000 miles.
Lake Speed Jr. has good information on the subject.
Never doing more than 5000 on an oil change.. don’t care what the oil engineer says … oil change intervals were designed for fleets they could sell lower maintenance cost
As far as 25,000 mi oil change goes, not only no but fck no.
amsoil has been doing this for over 30 years
@rickschwartz2447.......Actually, They've doing this for over 50 YEARS!
I wouldn't use amsoil on a chain much less in a motor, real fools gold
25,000 miles may very well be fine with the oil and it's additive package. I don't think it would be good to keep a filter on that long.
That's what I always think about with these "extended performance" oils. A filter can only...filter so much.
Oil can last but its the carbon build up
Fluids are cheap everything else is expensive, I do every 5k
Not smart .. Don't ever change oil just add when needed... 381,745 on my 2004 4 runner, never changed oil jut add and change the filter every year... no issues
I don't recommend never changing oil like the above comment. I don't recommend what I did either, going 12-15k between changes using Mobil 1 20k mile oil and 20k filter. I was doing mostly HWY driving and only some occasional towing. I had that truck for 15 years and it didn't use, burn, or leak oil even at 255k miles. I should have never traded that truck in. Long oil changes worked for me, but I won't say it will work for everyone.
Until they make an oil filter that can remove the diesel-like soot that GDI engines generate, there's no way I'm going anywhere close to 25k miles. That soot is abrasive. Let's see valvoline test that oil in a vehicle that does primarily short trips in extremely cold weather for 25k miles. That's where engine oils need to improve.
Fact. My 2013 ram Cummins is “off road only” and I still change oil at 5k
How does one square the JD Power report that RAM scores highest but Dodge lowest in the IQS? Do they not share parts...
Other than the Hornet, Dodge products are quite dated. The Charger's interior has been largely unchanged for 11 years now. They probably don't share that many parts.
It’s not about reliability, it’s about the first 90 days and owner satisfaction.
Hell must of frozen over. Ram is good but Toyota must of fallen. To fluid changes I chatted with a few people He is what a few said. If you use your truck as a truck. Example 1/2 ton you tow 3500-6500 pounds 4 days out of the week change it 3,000 miles if it’s a SUV rarely tows 3000 pounds maybe 4500miles. 3/4 ton trucks same thing I don’t care if you only had 3500 behind it for a total mileage of 900 miles change it at 3,000miles. Auto trans change them around 30,000-40,000 your diffs Same thing 30-40,000miles. Btw check all filter. If it’s newer than 06 check see if the cabin filter has been replaced.
25K miles oil change is for LALALAND where temperatures don't exceed 80°F or go below 60°F ever. I'd say GOOD LUCK. 😅
Castrol is making a pretty safe bet with that warranty. Limiting it to 6 years or 125K miles means they will be able to claim that almost any failure is a manufacturing defect. You could probably run vegetable oil in most modern engines and get 6 years or 125K miles before a major problem manifested.
Excellent reliability on my Lightning 23k km so far. I must have got a good one. The EV crowd seem like a fickle bunch, so I'm sure they are into the dealer for every tiny little squeak and rattle (and phone things). Sorry to hear about the fat comments, some awfully brave comments online these days. I thought the video was good.
25,000 miles I would do Amsoil and only Amsoil. Not that I actually follow Amsoil’s assurance for their signature oil. I will always do 5000 miles
It’s interesting what they can do with these new formulations. For me I’ll stick with the manufacturer’s recommendations in the manual. I usually stick with the heavy use recommendations due to my useage case.
Until you and all the big UA-cam reviewers actually do it themselves a show the outcome I can guarantee that no one's going to do it especially if it's a vehicle that you pay for
I went as far as 30,000 with Amsoil on a 2001 GMC with a Duramax engine, I was oil sampling and they said it was good for continued use, I changed it anyway. I had the bypass filter system on the truck and changed the filters every 6 months plus added 3 quarts of oil, I sold the truck to a friend with 90,000 miles on it he still had it and it has 360,000 miles on it and it runs good.
I can 100% belive the hemi is the quality king..now the question will be the hurricane..and if the 3.0 can live up to other legendary str8 6s like slant 6 , ford 300 and jeep 4.0..unquestionably RAM is quality king
Changed my oil today cost mr about $35 full synthetic. 25k. I’ll pass
On the lightning forum half of the posts are about phone issues. I'm about to leave the group.
Even if the oil is able to handle 25k miles, can the oil filter handle it? I doubt it. 🤔
@7500miles every GM product will be around 10% on the oil life meter. 25k is asking for trouble.
I drove a Dodge Magnum RT hemi 400,000 miles and changed oil every 10k for the first 100k, second 100 k with 20k changes and 300-400k 25,000 mile changes. UOA every change. Had to add 1 qt at around 20,000 mi. Got structural rust in the frame areas, so junked it. Penzoil Platinum 5w20.
That's the biggest issue right there....longevity of the rest of the vehicle. In today's vehicles, I don't worry about the engine like I used to. It'll do fine. But the rust is what kills the all....
My father has the same car, subframe rot is killing great cars. The thing weighs over 4K lbs. They could have put a little more steel and made it last twice as long.
Jd powers they all ways play sneaky...always read the fine print
Sure I believe it. And Joe Biden had a cold.
Trump is gonna look good in an orange jump suit don't you think?
AN base oil? MOBIL 1 figured it doesn't break down but I tried it and it was a poor lubricant...alkalinated naphthalene?..no thanks
If you try a 25,000 mile oil change interval on a new car and have an engine problem you will end up in a losing battle between Castrol and the manufacturer and YOU will be the loser!
@genehart261 A warranty can not be denied unless the issue is PROVEN to be a cause of failure! In the case of oil, an "OIL ANALYSIS" will prove if the oil caused an issue! However, having said that, if an oil caused a failure of an engine, EVERYONE using that oil would have the same issues, as Oils are formulated and made in HUNDREDS of gallons at a time!
This is all about the EPA ! they want cleaner oil -thinner oils for fuel economy and extended OCI's for environmental reasons not longevity of the engine ! Anything ILSC GF6 and correct weight will suffice ! I myself use pennzoil ultra platinum and fram ultra syn filter and never looked back !
they dont want cleaner oil, they want less oil being used. so they basically dont want ppl changing oil anymore, they dont care if your car only lasts 100K miles
lol...yep! It's the gov't! They are coming for your funnels! Think maybe it has something to do with the modern, better built engines and higher technology in the oil? The fact that these engines and high OCIs last much longer than engines just 20-30years ago? No? Ok, yeah, it's a conspiracy.
I do twice a year to be safe. Synthetics probably only need changing one time a year.
A friend of mine bought a brand new Jeep Cherokee years ago. It off-gassed so badly that she had to take it back to the dealer because the windows would constantly fog up due to a film on the windows. Some vehicles are definitely worse than others.
I have had two rams so far a 2019 longhorn with the hemi and a 2021 laramie. I put 60k on each and had ZERO issues. Did not go with Ram due to new motors
Direct Injected engines typically show as much as 3 to 5 percent fuel dilution even with 5,000 mile oil change intervals. How does any oil maintain protection when it's diluted by gasoline?
Direct injection engines show absolutely, positively 100% working and normally functing oil at 10k and 15k to anyone who has ever sent their oil in for analysis at Blacstone etc, source otherwise
10 years from now. Lifetime oil
I change my oil right before it hits 5k miles
Did I hear that correctly . . . the the warranty is void after your vehicle has gone 125k miles? So basically your motor is trash by the 125k mark. So much for long OCIs.
also notice that they say you have to follow manufacturer severe service schedule for vehicles under 18,000 miles. Also they won’t pay out more than $5,000 on repairs.
Recently bought a 2024 Ram 2500 Hemi, took to dealership with just over 1000 miles to have first oil change (I still believe in breaking in an engine), they put on my window sticker that my next oil change should be at 11,000 miles (10,000 mile interval for those mathematically challenged). Looked it up in my owners manual, states “never exceed 8,000 miles between oil changes”.
Summary, never listen to what a dealership or manufacturer says. Do your own research and then you do you!
Not a chance I do 6000. I feel pretty comfortable with that because I sent my oil in and have it tested and all the time they tell me I can go farther but 6000 out for me personal opinion you gotta be damn near 25,000 I don’t care what kind of warranty. I’ve never seen a warranty worth of shit to start with.
Oil is not that expensive so don't be a tight as$ when it comes to service. If you can afford a new or fairly new vehicle, you can afford the oil and filter.
We own 4 vehicles in our household, the 2 newer truck & SUV have oil changes annually due to the lack of miles driven which is only around 2500 - 4,000 miles, we’ve done this for years with our low mileage vehicles with 0 issues!
UP TO 25,000 miles. Read the fine print. It's a big nothing burger in my opinion.
Oil change intervals are set by the manufacturers-found in the owners manual and not what “people” say.
JD Power is a big scam. If Toyota can't replace a transmission within 30 days make them buy it back.
7K-10K is perfectly fine. 3K using full synthetic is ridiculous.
So many are quick to have an opinion on old change intervals. The heavy equipment industry did intensive testing on this and many of the OEMs running in extreme conditions settled on 500 hr oil change intervals. Engines know hours, not miles driven as that doesn't account for accurate run time. Most vehicles have hour meters now, and most would be surprised how little hours engine run time they actually change the oil at.
Thats a great point. I assume the oil change percentage on the dashboard is based on hours not miles in later model vehicles?
@@fit4ya1975 I think the manufacturers speak in a language that car owners understand, and milage seems to be it. The cab driver driving throughout a city with allot of idle time can have double the engine hours vs another driver doing all highway running.
Not a good idea. Heavy equipment generally run at a much more constant RPM and duty cycle than cars so they just track hours of operation. Cars are up and down the RPM gauge, towing than not towing, fast then slow, etc. Which is why the manufacturers created those tracking algorithms. They know when you are at hwy speed or towing and adjust the OCI.
Do they recommend a certain filter just because the oil can last 25k dose not mean the filter can last 25k I do the good old 5,000 mile change it works for me
Dodge is doing that with extended oil changes to kill the used car value of their vehicles.
25k miles?? Most are not car guys. So they will go 30k miles before an oil change.
Once again RAM is KING!!!!
of what? not providing what the majority of buyers want.
Of junk
@davidporter7051 Of reliability. Both JD power and Consumer Reports ranked the Ram 1500 highest of any full-size pickup in reliability. Most people will be plenty happy with the Hurricane, far better low end torque than a NA V8 which is what you want for towing.
My lightning has had 2 issues in 14k miles. 1. A cell in the battery went bad. It was fixed in a week. 2. It ended up being my GPS receiver being bad. That took a long time to fix 10 months). I had taken it in 4 times. I use a very large ford dealership in eastern Nebraska. They have 1 tech qualified to work on it. And it's new tech, so it does take longer...
My 23 XLT SR has been flawless so far 23k km.
19 f150, 111.000 miles and never been back to dealer, heck the wheels have only been off once lol😂
Oil is cheap. I'll stick to changing my oil every 6 months or 5k miles.
Every 5k or six months. I’ll let the chumps experiment with their engines…
Ram with quality … YGBSM …. 25k miles with oil chg is BS.
Lmao
I guess RAM is gonna have to build a bigger trophy case........
Is that why the dealer lots are piling up with trucks?
@@nemesis656 No. Sales figures and reliability are not the same thing.
Well once again Ram hit the target for 5 years running. Now the Mopar haters are still in denial. They cannot accept positive change. Eventually they may come to there senses. 😅
25k? Yeow.
But 12k would be nice…
12k and 15k mobil has been out for years now...
Hey Tim,
If my memory serves me correctly, Amsoil offered this high mileage oil way back in the late 70’s or early 80’s!
So, nothing new or mind altering here!
As always stay safe and healthy.
Ron
@RK57AZ......AMSOIL put it on the market in 1972!!
Do you think a oil company is going warranty your engine good luck trying to get it covered
Oil change intervals are highly subjective. On our Subaru Ascent, over 4k miles there is over 8% fuel dilution verified by Oil Analyzers Inc. Blackstone is crap. They use a calculation of the the base oil and flash point to determine the fuel dilution, where as OAI use Gas Chromatography which breaks it down to a molecular level. If I went 10k, let alone 25k, it’d likely be 20% or higher fuel dilution. I have proof that Blackstone is crap vs OAI with my oil analysis’s.
So would you recommend 4k intervals?
@@sammyjammy6647 depends on the car. The only way to know is to do frequent oil analysis’s to find what works best. A good rule of thumb is 5k mile OCI’s. It also depends on driving habits, idle time and climate.
@@cpftank09
Correction: on your vehicle, you observed this amount of fuel dilution. Your car is a data set of one and you cannot make recommendations for an entire model based upon your results. If anyone is interested, they should get a report on their car even if it is the same make, model, and year. How you drive and where you drive matters.
@@matthewgaines10 there have been a few other Ascent owners with similar fuel dilution, at least 5% over 4-5k miles. Though the Ascent community isn’t much of an enthusiast community. The Outback XT and Wilderness groups have noted high fuel dilution as well and they have the same engine.
You’re living on the edge if you change oil at 25k miles!
The engine warranty alone may make that oil worthwhile even if you don't let it go that long. Once you're out of factory warranty, that is. Although I'm guessing it will be difficult to prove any issue is oil related.
They only cover it for 125K/6 years. The odds of any modern engine failing that early are slim to none even with a 25K OCI and Walmart dino oil.
Back in the 1980s, a mechanic told me that you could run synthetic oil for 15 thousand miles if you changed the oil filter after every 5k miles. His theory was that this type of oil does not breakdown like conventional oils. I personally use synthetic oil and change it every 5k miles.
Me to. Every 5k!
"synthetic" oil actually isnt that much different from conventional
@@cantwealljustgetalong2 Interesting. Care to elaborate?
@cwqrpportable synthetic oil is based on regular oil it just has some slip additives, its not THAT much better than conventional oil
@@cantwealljustgetalong2 Thanks for the reply. It’s a little more involved with more differences than what you are suggesting, but it’s all good and far too complicated a subject to deal with in a comment section. Have a good weekend!
No,, short trip change every 3.5 months .
Who would want your turn signal to be a button on the steering wheel
4/1 was a few months back.
😂 that took me a minute.
Hey man, rotella got 500,000mi or 10 years….lol
The thing that amazes me over the last decade is vehicle manufacturers requiring lubricant makers to reverse engineer lubricants to solve their design problems.
EPA is see longer you go on a oil change the less used oil there is there is a video out like 2 months on Dave’s auto center page with the oil geeks they get real deep
Rock Rails that are mounted to the body.
25,000 mile oil change, that’s only feasible is if you’re driving almost like a semi, doing lots of long trips of like 90% highway driving
I think they are counting on that since they say 25k or 1 year. 25K in a year must have some longer trips.
@@Dusdaddyyeah but also a lot of Uber drivers who do a lot of stop and go in city driving
I heard oil in teslas last the life of the car?
Yes, you can go 25k miles for oil changes if you drive many miles in a short time like my buddy who had a 2013 Sienna. The van had over 400k miles before it was totaled in an accident.
Watch Dave’s auto center you might change your mind
@dang5553 Tim said it well, it all depends how you use your car. I had Limo business back and do you think we changed the oil every 2 weeks? That was usually the time we were driving 5000 miles.
I personally changed the oil at 10k miles on 2 of my personal vehicles, at 7.5k for my Honda, and now I do the oil changes for my Tundra every 5k.
The interesting thing is when I look at my records, I changed the oil every 4 months. It is just that the 10k oil intervals happened when I lived in Florida. Obviously, we put more miles there. Now I live in a smaller town in WA and we drive 15k Mike's per year.
As I said, my buddy is a Uber driver in Orlando. His Sienna clocked 430k miles when someone hit him and the van was totalled. He used Mobil 1 extended interval oil, I believe the one that was rated for 15k, but because he was putting a lot of miles for a short time, he was changing the oil every 25k. For taxi/Uber drivers, it is different.
I sometimes tow heavy stuff and I see that my oil consumption goes up. I still do not add oil, but if I had to follow Toyota's 10k recommendation, I would have added. I see normally 0.5 quarts drop for every 5k, bur if I tow, it is 1 quart every 5k.
How much is this 25,000 mile oil?
Oil is cheap. A used engine is not
Tim ,where did you get the cool topographical shirt ?
Walmart. It’s my top fashion store. 😂
When one compares maintenance service schedule's, most driver's would fall into a severe service schedule. Which is stop and go driving, short trips, less then four miles, in a city, and/or somewhat dusty environment, with variable temperatures. Towing and hauling generally also can put one into a severe service schedule. Normal or regular service which is more highway, less stop and go in a rural environment where the average drive is more then 10 miles. As someone who has run a fleet of vehicle's, and done many oil sample analysis for various comparisons I would say best bet is to change oil every 5,000-7500 miles, using a good quality Full synthetic, and premium oil filter. Changing oil/filter at least twice a year, as oil does break down over time. Oil and filters are cheap in cost, compared to paying to replace an engine.
I have apple/ android in my truck and I’ve never used it. That’s a gimmic
Try telling that to the countless millions who use it every time they get into their cars for maps/accidents/detours, weather, notifications, alerts, streaming music, and more.
@@-insert- tbh I don’t care what they think,me it’s a gimmic to me and I’m the only one that matters
Look at all the disclaimers on the Castrol warranty page…they definitely stand behind their product & advertising claims (insert sarcasm emoji here).
Best joke of the year!
Only an idiot would change their oil every 3000 miles... nowadays that's totally ridiculous Unless you work for an oil company.....
Is that right? I must really be an idiot cause if I get in the mood, I change mine every 2500.
@@kevinj2412 Now you are in the Bidumb category..🤣
@@leedanielson7452 No, that would be change oil and not put any back.
@@kevinj2412 🤣🤣🤣
I’m an idiot too.
Tim your right foot will be the farthest in the truck when you sit so it should be the first foot that enters the truck, which means you start by stepping up on the step with your left foot then stand up on the step and swing your right foot in the truck and sit.
This is for the driver, and in reverse for the passenger
Tried that and absolutely hated it. Didn’t work at all for me.
@@Pickuptrucktalk hey man do what works for you. Love the content man. Thanks
On a lease I will……
Does Stellantis own JD Powers?
You wish. But the Ram 1500 was also ranked the most reliable full-size pickup in Consumer Reports ratings for 2023. CR gets data from tens of thousands of owners so it's far more reputable than JD Power. Since the Tundra switched to the new engine, Ram is now firmly the most reliable full-size truck.
Oil is cheaper than engine rebuilds. Regularly change the oil and filter . It’s a good habit.
What about body rust? How long before perforations?
I think Toyota’s 10k mile changes are dumb, so do several Toyota techs on here. 25k would be like trying to destroy your engine asap. For our Subarus that hold about 5qts, I change every 5-6k miles with premium filter. My 21 Tacoma holds about 6qts, I go 6/7k on it between changes. If a Turbo engine, I’d change every 5k.
other than "feelings" what makes them "dumb"?
Thanks!
You bet!
I actually like the GMC setup. The rock sliders have a step option that can be taken on and off for offroading wish I could find the same setup for my ranger raptor now
Too bad they have the largest amount of trucks in inventory over all oems. No one wants a RAM. Wonder how much they paid JD powers to get this award?
@@brianmaloney5430 Don't be butt hurt man.. somebody has to be number one it might as well be ram.... sounds like all the other manufactures are falling apart....
It sounds like stellantis is headed to bankruptcy.
@@brianmaloney5430 Don't listen to the fake news man... Stellantis is actually doing just fine...... Don't be suckered into the UA-cam hype.....
Just because a vehicle is reliable doesn't mean it will sell well. The Ram 1500 was also the rated most reliable full-size pickup in Consumer Reports ratings for 2023. CR is the most reputable index we have in the US for vehicle reliability as they go by data from tens of thousands of owners.
Fiat pickups are number 0
😅😂😅😂
Sure if I have no dipstick & trusting a sensor made by Dodge to tell me my 🛢️ is perfectly fine for 25,000 Miles that sounds like a genius idea 🤷
@honda116969.....The sensor is only going to tell you the oil "LEVEL", not the condition of the oil!
@@1gr8oil yeah exactly to tell me that the "full"🎚️is fine I don't think so! A car generally starts to burn 🛢️ if you leave it in past 10,000 mi because there's only so many detergents that can only take so much & then it starts to burn 📴... That's why you need a dipstick so you personally can ✅ , not only the🎚️but the condition of the🛢️ by the way it feels, smells & looks! I would use that oil at last for 25K but change it at like 7,500 mi lol... I bought my Tacoma brand 🆕 1st 🛢️ change 545, 2nd 🛢️ change 2,500 3rd 🛢️ change 5,500 4th 8,500 & 5th 12K... Didn't need the 2nd 🛢️ change at 2,500 but I have peace of 🧠 after inspecting the 🛢️ filter & everything is kosher. I Rev the shit out of it but take good care of it. OTT tune & drop in air filter + sumo springs truck runs & drives totally different & much better than 🦴 stock form. Is it a perfect truck❓nope but it's a damn good one so far. 🤷